Tokyo

[Rick Rock]

Looking for something new, I tried a place called "Tokyo Amateur Escort. ".

https://amateurtokyo.com

Website is in English. Guy I talked to spoke English too. So it was simple to set up.

I had a girl named Chisato Sakashita: https://amateurtokyo.com/%e5%9d%82%e...1%95%e3%81%a8/.

Her picture was obviously edited, but honestly not by much. I was pretty surprised when I met her in Shibuya.

21 years old. Looked to be accurate. Very pretty, nice skin, great figure, a little timid. Probably because I'm an older foreigner! But she was friendly and willing.

Fun sized with nice little tits. Like my brother always says, "a handful is enough. ".

Chisato can speak just enough English to get by. Google translate did the rest.

The price was agreed upon in advance. 17,000 Yen for 50 min + 2,000 Yen admission + 2,000 Yen for picking my own girl.

I also paid 10,000 directly to her for "AF". Once I saw her naked, I was thinking man I could really enjoy getting in that tight little butt hole. Ended up getting in the other hole instead, but that was even better.

Her blowjob matches her timid spirit. She gave a pretty good handjob though when I was sucking on those little pink nips. She was responsive and wet when I dined at the why too. Maybe that's why she let me slip it in?

Whatever the reason I lucked out on this one. Sometimes you try a new place and it's a total bust. I got more than I bargained for with Chisato. Definitely one of the prettier girls I've booked in Tokyo and more mileage than I usually get too.

[Runon99]

Hi JPLove, can you hook me up with the scene in NYC. I live on the East coast but don't know any way to monger here in the US. My experience is always in Asia. A long weekend to NYC would make departure from Asia fuckation back to US more tolerable until one year later. Thanks!

There is a small but friendly little community of NYC-based mongers (plus out of town enthusiasts) who are dedicated to banging as many J-girl visitors as they can. They gather on the USA version of this very website. I recommend reading back as many pages as you can and then following along and soon you will get the hang of all their lingo and know about all the best spots for J-girls in Manhattan. Reports very often include links to the shops' websites, so most of your basic questions will be answered just by reading.

Pro-tip: if they refer to a girl going to "Falashing" they actually mean Flushing.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/show...ders-Manhattan

[Last Drop]

I've had way better experiences in NYC overall. Had a few very memorable girls in Kabukicho plus that soapland chick in Sapporo, but overall I've found NY had consistently hotter girls with better service. I tend to agree with other posters that Japan is nice for things you can't get in NY like oppai bars, mat play / nuru massage and weird fetish shit like harassment shops. However, if you're just interested in some hot Japanese GFE action, FS and maybe some extras like BBFS and video, NYC is king.

Hi JPLove, can you hook me up with the scene in NYC. I live on the East coast but don't know any way to monger here in the US. My experience is always in Asia. A long weekend to NYC would make departure from Asia fuckation back to US more tolerable until one year later. Thanks!

[Pegasus887]

So ask yourself this is it odd that their the only business group is banned on the forum. If they don't have any issues and they are the best there is. Why is there's the only business group banned on the forum. I have yet to see any other shop be banned they way they have. That alone is telling to me. As far I know the forum hasn't moderated any other shop the way they have been moderated that group. Yes they were actively on there and on here LOL they actively monitor this forum hell if you pay close enough attention on here you'll see girlfriend and hentai add banner. Also at the time of the ban they did not have a huge market share they were just starting out. They were just begining and trying get into market share.

They are not the only place banned on the forum, Nasty dolls who were direct competitors to Asian Mystique were also banned before THC. Geisha eyes, around 2012 to name another. All the other Japanese shops doing the same type of business are blacklisted if you haven't noticed. This includes several Japanese independents who relied on TAG for clients that called out Chris (Sudsy / TAG Manager) on a big post before they started charging them to "post" on the site.

[CCRider1008]

So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...066&viewfull=1#post2941066.

Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.

myself.

Much appreciated JP. Trip will include 6 days in Phuket and 6 days BKK (6th time) before Japan. Being a white guy from the USA only knowing "Hello, "you are very beautiful" etc. In Japanese I'll be at disadvantage. But Japan is a sightseeing trip first anyway. I'll take best advice from this forum, smile, show respect and hope for the best. Always wanted to see the country anyway.

[Rick Rock]

Actually not comparable at all. According to their business license they are not a sexually service business they are a bath house for taking baths. Where as delivery health and pink salons are sexual service business license. This was from a friend who works at one. They can get in trouble if the customer doesn't take a bath. She even told me they have inspectors who come round from time to time and check soap house as "customers" (man would love that job.) if they don't get a bath they come back and raid it for prostitution. Itried to rationalize it with the girl cause saying how does the bath make it any different a sexual business but basically everyone looks the other way an ignores it.

I don't know what you're going on about, and really I don't care. The point is that all soaplands do full service, and everyone that goes to a soapland knows they do full service. That is all. Carry on.

[David032]

As far as I know they have never participated on TAG. The moderators were alarmed at the amount of positive reviews being posted about the service by new users when they first started and came to the conclusion that they were all "fake" reviews. Why would they need to sabotage other businesses when they have a huge market share jeopardizing their future?

It seems ridiculous for an independent forum to be moderated in this manner without any outside business interests.

So ask yourself this is it odd that their the only business group is banned on the forum. If they don't have any issues and they are the best there is. Why is there's the only business group banned on the forum. I have yet to see any other shop be banned they way they have. That alone is telling to me. As far I know the forum hasn't moderated any other shop the way they have been moderated that group. Yes they were actively on there and on here LOL they actively monitor this forum hell if you pay close enough attention on here you'll see girlfriend and hentai add banner. Also at the time of the ban they did not have a huge market share they were just starting out. They were just begining and trying get into market share.

[David032]

Show me on any fast food restaurant website where they say they sell garbage food that makes you fat and unhealthy.

Yet that is exactly true.

And every soapland in Japan is full service even if there isn't a sign on the door that says "fuck pussy inside".

Actually not comparable at all. According to their business license they are not a sexually service business they are a bath house for taking baths. Where as delivery health and pink salons are sexual service business license. This was from a friend who works at one. They can get in trouble if the customer doesn't take a bath. She even told me they have inspectors who come round from time to time and check soap house as "customers" (man would love that job.) if they don't get a bath they come back and raid it for prostitution. Itried to rationalize it with the girl cause saying how does the bath make it any different a sexual business but basically everyone looks the other way an ignores it.

[David032]

I've never noticed such a claim of full service on a soapland website, but I've also not noticed on such sites that "production" or "the actual act" -- euphemisms for vaginal intercourse -- are forbidden.

Such notices ARE included on the websites of delivery health / etc. Shops. For example, on that Robot Deliheru site it says:

"It is forbidden (by the law) to require or force the girls to act in real performance. ".

But on that Soapland Barubola Marin site, there is no mention of the full service euphemisms on the prohibited list. It's like the dog that didn't bark in the Sherlock Holmes story.

More than once the phrase "this is not a sex shop" was uttered to me in Japan in fashion health places, so it was slightly jarring when I heard "this is a sex shop" when I entered a soapland in Fukuoka.

So yes, soapland places (or restaurant association places in Osaka) will not explicitly advertise full service but, as the saying goes, if you know, you know.

LOL this one of those werid lost in translation things. Soaplands are bath house not sexual business. It makes zero sense but that's what there classified as. But yet they are pretty much full services brothels.

[JPLove]

I've never seen so many differing opinions on a mongering location in Asia than in Japan. SE Asia has had relative consensus. Thailand is great; Bali pretty good; Vietnam not so good; Cambodia okay depending on where. I've never been to Korea so can't opine. Japan it's all over the board. As a potential first time visitor it's starting to feel like more of a tourist sightseeing trip than a punter trip. Which is fine -- just trying to set my expectations correctly.

Couple clarifying questions for you.

1. How was your experience with the girls and app translators?

2. Do you remember the names of the 1-2 terrible soapies in Tokyo?

3. Street hookers. Are they easy to spot in Japan as in other places, or does it take more work to ID them? I understood this was not a very big part of the P4P scene in Tokyo. How does one spot whether they have a middle man or not. Like you I would not have a lot of tolerance for that BS.

4. What hotel did you stay at in Shinjuko? Any problems with front desk or hotel with brining the girls to your room?

5. Did you partake in escort web services (delivery health)? How was that experience?

So I did 10 days in Thailand before coming to Japan. Can confirm that it is fun as hell. Bangkok is a wild city. I left a detailed report in the Thailand thread if anyone's interested: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...066&viewfull=1#post2941066.

Thailand is definitely more welcoming of foreigners, and the women are more friendly / outgoing. But the Japanese women are far more beautiful IMO, even if they can be a bit cold sometimes. I think Japan definitely has more to offer in terms of culture and sightseeing. The mongering here is good but just super YMMV depending on your race and Japanese speaking ability. Perhaps this is why opinions are all over the place.

As for your questions:

1. The girls have been good overall but as I said, both looks and service are better for NY J-girls. I don't have any real issues using translator app. I will say though that Japanese language ability is almost treated as a kind of loyalty test out here. Doors will open if you can speak the language, and people will treat you much differently. You will be able to fuck way better girls at the stores if you're fluent. Not many English speakers in Japan, which was unexpected for me. Shibuya and Shinjuku is like 50% hot women but you can't talk to any of them English. Feels bad man. I tried to pick up some of the language for this trip but it's just so damn hard / time consuming. And unfortunately, I think Japanese is a dying language in a sense given current state of affairs with the shrinking population and imploding economy. The main reason to learn it is the women LOL. Seems like a bad idea to relocate to Japan and work twice as hard to make less than half of what one would earn each year in the USA You would probably be better served spending your time learning Spanish or Mandarin. But I digress.

2. One was nice lady in Yokohama. I don't remember the other one. Again, my general rule of thumb here is that if the store only gives me one girl to choose from, I walk out. You're gambling on that one girl being good and the odds are against you. She's probably older and not busy compared to the other girls, and this is why she is being offered up to foreigners.

3. Kabukicho is the best place is the country for tachinbo (street girls). The place is like host club paradise for the girls. And where there are hosts, there are working girls. You can usually spot the working girls based on their attire, typically short skirt and high heels. But also look at what they're doing. If a girl is just standing on the side of the street on her phone for a long time, she's probably working, waiting for a customer. You can also just go up to a girl and ask if she's playing. This is done all the time in kabukicho. You will see local guys just walk up and proposition hot young girls in the area. It normal here and girls will not get offended generally speaking. Some will just ignore you. Otherwise will apologize and tell you that they are not a working girl LOL. These ladies don't have middle men afaik.

4. I stayed at the granbell hotel and I was bringing girls back every night. They don't give a shit. Just make sure you register for two guests. Or simply use the side entrance, as I did. I would not recommend getting a love hotel in the area, unless you have to. They usually have crappy rooms that stink of cigarettes. And some love hotels will try to charge you extra if you bring multiple girls back. A regular hotel in Shinjuku is much better, just make sure it's inside Kabukicho, as the girls won't be willing to walk more than 10-15 minutes.

5. I only did delivery once in Sapporo and it was awful. I think I mentioned this in my original post. I used an agency called college girl kiss and they bait and switched me with chubby 30's girl. Spent 34 k, tried to cancel and get a 10 k refund when I saw the girl. Maybe I should've checked the pics and reviews more carefully, but as someone else mentioned, reviews are not very helpful in Japan since the agency controls the board and will just delete any bad feedback. I heard that Delice is very good for DH in Shinjuku and club valentine is very good for Osaka. But I've yet to try either myself.

[Rick Rock]

I'm not an expert. But as far as I know they call it "horse riding" but use Japanese words. It sounds like "key joe" and the letter "E" in English. So you could say "key joe ee kudusai". The 3 Kanji that make this sound look like "horse" "ride" "position".

[Traveler X]

But 69 in Japanese is "sixty nine. " And doggy style in Japanese is "doggu sutairu. " They basically use the same words for these that we do.

See at the start I did not even know that, so I used the hand signal method. I know they say doggy, but I did not know they just say 69. All these years, no ex-girlfriend taught me anything. I once got slapped by an ex just for covering the ten-ten on mango. So you can see why my dirty talk is extremely limited, they taught me zero words. I learned everything dirty from JAV and don't really hear 69 there. They just do it.

So you're telling me I wasted my time giving full sentence explanations of what 69 was. "My mouth on your pussy and your mouth on my cock" I know I said that perfectly right but they sometimes have to process it.

Another common confusion is in the US I want a girl to ride me. Again, no idea how to even say that I just describe it. So I used to always say "Sit on me" in Japanese but every time they would sit their pussy and ass on my face! So now I say okay you are going to sit on me but make sure my dick goes in your pussy. High IQ girls get it within a second, I've had some girls sit and ponder before I pull them into position.

How do you ask a girl to ride you? I've had exes pretend not to know but I could at least ask in English. I watch a ton of jdrama and anime and no, they just never say it.

[Rick Rock]

Does help to explain 69 and doggy but in a pinch you can do that with hand signals too. .

But 69 in Japanese is "sixty nine. " And doggy style in Japanese is "doggu sutairu. " They basically use the same words for these that we do.

[Traveler X]

What was is like dating one of these girls?

Was the sex even better than the regular "service"?

Are they trying to find a rich guy to marry or support them?

No, I do my thing and nobody would understand it. I just like to date them, that's my only goal after I'm done with them sexually. There is zero possibility of a future relationship and I make that clear from the start. Every girl is so different I can't answer any of your questions in general, just for the girls I date.

Do not get romantic feelings for a jgirl. I learned long ago not to do it that way. I date them the same way I see them at a shop. One visit at a time. Then it's goodbye, maybe next time or maybe not. Always do it that way.

If I like a girl I will bang her over and over again at the shop until I'm done with her sexually. With jgirls that means the videos and photos I want, all the acts I want more or less. Then if her personality vibes and she is a good person I can trust, I ask her out. She is a hot girl I just banged, and that makes a fun day or night out even better. There is no sexual tension, most of my dates are the day after banging so the pressure is off and there is no drama. We just do whatever we want next. I take her to the beach and have lunch and ice cream, to the strip club and watch her touch my favorite strippers all over, go hiking. Whatever we want.

There is spontaneous skinship and sometimes kissing in the middle or the end, but I'm not looking for that it just happens. Keep in mind we recently had a lot of sex, I'm sexually spent and not going to be interested for a while. I planned it this way, I hate drama with women. And what I want is I want to go out, so if she is down we do. It is so convenient.

I used to take girls out backwards, go on dates with them like that and hope we maybe bang. Fuck that.

Here is what I wrote about my 2nd date with a kgirl, I took her to the strip club and wrote:
"I took a kgirl out on a date there and all of you guys stared at her instead of the dancers. Then I got a couples dance with her where I watched that kgirl that I just double-fucked put her hands all over a dancer I liked, exploring her sexuality. A tear to my eye at the beauty, a treasured memory I will hold dear. Then we got tacos at the stand outside and she said I was the best tour guide she's had. Our next date was even better."

She had told me she once went to a gay club in Korea so this was my chance to see with my own eyes how far that would go. It is personally meaningful to me and special. I've spent decades focusing on my own sexual needs, I want to spend a little time helping my sexy friend explore hers. It makes me genuinely happy, to me this kgirl has done more for me than 99% of women I've met so this is a no-brain-er gift I'm giving her that night. I don't really care what others think of it, you do your thing right.

If it's been a few months or a year, I get curious and if they work at the shop again I book them and surprise them. One is a student so I sure am not going to wait for her roommate to go to class before sneaking in, which isn't even allowed anyways. And for another she lived at the shop while on tour so I visit her then usually as her first appointment of the tour. Get that out of the way. We then do a hike the next morning and get her back working after lunch. She is adventurous so ironically one of the few people I can share hiking with. I normally would have to hike alone. This pacing also helps her not to build up stress. I want her to make her goal.

I guess the "after sex" was better but only because we continued where we left off last time. It would have been the same had I not dated them. They are not going to have some secret menu they are saving for just me, when a girl works she has her routine, her mentality, and I am not one to try and shake things up. But I'll try face fucking with the kgirl and since we vibe she gives good feedback and we have fun with it and I can know her limit. There's that added trust. But I think I would have gotten that still just by seeing a girl at the shop on repeats anyways.

I made it clear from the very start that I am just having a fun day with them and don't want a relationship other than friendship. They did not look for me, I found and picked them. They were not looking for a man or a sponsor, they know I am only offering fun. I do talk with them sometimes and give them comfort and help them move on past a life problem, but that's not hard to do as a friend. I'd do that for a total stranger. I do all the time, that's why I post guides on forums. Even after I die people will still be following the bread crumbs I left for them to follow.

In two cases the girls are so young they can't even think about marriage or anything. They are figuring out their lives. One still has no idea. But that's okay, we still had fun. That was this morning. She is so wild on her off-work days I am lucky I am not her boyfriend. I drop her off better than she started, we both feel great, and I move on. She might come back in a few months or a year, she'll let me know.

Edit: She just sent me bikini selfies. This part is harmless, but her next message is "Where are you?" Do not engage in this scenario. Do not. I will wish her a happy time back to her life in Japan instead.

[Runon99]

As a foreigner with no Japanese, you will not have access the full roster at Soaplands. Many of the Soaplands I visited only offered 1, maybe 2 girls to foreigners who can't speak Japanese. In my limited experience, if a soap only offers you one girl, you should probably walk. The pictures are never accurate and you won't really know what you're getting until you see the girl in person. Dolce in Yoshiwara was one of the few spots that actually gave me a roster of 5-8 girls to choose from.

First, I've read a lot of your reviews of J-girls in NY on the AmpR board, so it's good to see you posting from Japan itself. Thanks for your reports. To your comments about Soaplands, no doubt your advice is good and your experiences typical in many cases, but not, as you note yourself, universally so. I went to a couple Soapland places on consecutive nights in Fukuoka. The experience on the first night was pretty bad; I went to a random place I picked because a dude outside waved me in, the pictures he showed me were blatantly fake, the girl wasn't friendly, blah. But the second night I went to the place I had been specifically looking for in the first place. I selected the hottest looking girl from the several pictures shown, the pics were accurate, young 20's girl with a slender body, passionate GFE service, a great time. So you never know.

Are you going to Osaka on this trip? If not, you can stop reading, but if so, I hope you are planning to check out one of the Shinchi's, which are "restaurant associations" that exploit a loophole to offer FS just as the Soaplands do. With the Soaps, the loophole is that they are providing a bathing service and the sex that follows is incidental. At the Shinchi's, the loophole is that the girl you go up to the room with is a waitress who provides a little cup of tea and perhaps a tiny packet of peanuts, and during that service she develops feelings that lead to FS.

The most famous Shinchi is Tobita. It's the biggest and there are gorgeous girls there, some of whom will accept foreigners. They sit in open-air rooms so you can see the actual girls before selecting. The mms will wave to you if you are acceptable; they will just ignore you if not. Tobita Shinchi is probably your best bet to get FS from a beautiful Japanese girl, possibly much prettier than the typical J-girl who makes it to Manhattan. The service, however will probably be much worse. My one time at Tobita, the girl was really hot, but no GFE of any kind, just CFS with zero affection. The walking around the several streets of Tobita and window shopping was almost as much fun as the deed itself. Tobita is recommended for the overall experience at least once IF you can stomach non-GFE CFS (but maybe with a very hot girl). Oh, and there was no shower at the place I went, I think that's the norm at Tobita.

I think there are five Schinchi's in all, but aside from Tobita I have only been to the second-biggest, the Matsushima Shinchi. My first time there I got really lucky. The girl I picked (and was allowed to pick) was young and pretty. Matsushima places do have showers, so I was clean for the service. This girl was very GFE; passionate DFK 69 with BBBJ / DATY, then CFS. I wish I had grabbed a card or somehow noted which place it was, because I couldn't remember when I went back the following year. Second visit was more like a Tobita experience, except cheaper and with a shower. The girl I picked was young and hot but the service was non-GFE. Still, an orgasm with a hot Japanese girl was achieved, so it wasn't so bad.

I've had a number of other experiences in Osaka, too many to detail now, especially given that this is the Tokyo board. But I will say that no Delivery Health girl in Osaka ever said no to FS with me in the love hotel room; it was CFS with the younger girls (who were comparable with the J-girls I've seen in NY) and BBFSCIP with the older ones.

If you spend any time in Kyoto, I went to a pink salon there that let me in. I'm a white guy with zero Japanese language skills, BTW. I might have typed up a message using Google translate that I had been to other pink salons and understood the rules, I can't completely remember, but I was admitted. The girl looked like a 18-22 year old, her schoolgirl outfit might helped shave some years off of her real age. BBBJCIM. This is the place: https://www.n-cats.com/top I don't think anyone goes to Kyoto specifically for hobbying, but there are options if you're there for cultural reasons.

If you have any questions, feel free to respond here or message me on AmpR, same screen name.