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  1. #13626
    Quote Originally Posted by HotDog666  [View Original Post]
    Fabulous post. Booking my ticket now.

    Are you supposed to tip the girls or not?

    Also, is it common to get the girl's number to have a one to one session separate from the club?
    Don't tip the girls. You can buy them a girl's drink. That's basically the system. Some girls don't even ask for a drink but if things are going well most will. Some people do, some people don't.

    At every club I went it is common to exchange contact info, however you should not assume it is to meet. It is mostly a waste of time, to give an illusion of intimacy. I only find it useful to get contact if I want to know a girl's schedule, since most girls don't work every day or consistently. This is an oppai pub, the girls you meet here are generally not going to meet you outside the club. I'm sure a couple do, but I would not count on it. The main purpose is so they can ask you back to the club.

    In my opinion, save your money and just see her again a the club. If you are thinking of offering an extra high rate to take a girl out, well that's exactly what you're not supposed to do. There's a good chance it'll be a no, then it's awkward and you never see her again even though you like her. Don't fall in love either. You do not get your money's worth in those situations, though I'm sure many people believe they do at first.

    I'm sure you must have some basic Japanese, the more the better. Stick to Luxe if you are just starting out, they are used to it.

    There are places you can bang jgirls much better. Like the USA of all places. It's complicated why but the jgirls in the US are now mostly early 20s or ex JAV. Ever since the yen crash. See USAG where I also post (this is the USA sister site of this website).

  2. #13625
    Is the girl giving rimming standard in the service offerings for the Amateur escorts (or for that matter other escorts)? If not, what option would you recommend for this please, as this is my favourite "hobby"?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kib123  [View Original Post]
    This is a detailed perspective to help newbie mongers like me. Skip to the middle for just the mongering stuff.

    Getting cash: Japan is surprisingly still cash heavy. As a foreigner you need considerable amount of cash for daily transactions such as taxi, public transport (bus / subway), many local restaurants, vending machines, some stores, etc. This is because foreign (sometimes any) credit cards are not accepted in such places. Also, most Japanese bank ATMs will not recognize foreign MC / Visa despite the logos stamped on them. After googling, I found that the good old American 7-11 (aka '7-Bank') is by far the best (cheapest and accessible) way to get cash with a foreign card. There is a 7-11 or two, or three at every corner, and their ATMs only charge a flat 220 yen (less than $1. 50) for any withdrawal above 10,000 yen (up to what your card / bank will allow).

    Local transport: Extremely convenient via the most extensive (and busiest) subway system I have encountered, super easy to get to any mongering corner of the city. Make sure you purchase a Suica / Pasmo card which you can top up as needed for local transport within any city. However, only cash works for both purchase and top up for foreigners. Only the bullet train ticket counter accepted my foreign CC.

    Hobby: I was very skeptical following countless reports that suggest major aversion to foreigners in Japan. Most experiences reported here (outright rejections, hefty foreigner 'tax') were not reassuring. However, Japan is far and expensive to get to, so I was determined to make the best of a bad situation. No way I was going home empty handed. I am not into street walkers or night clubs, I prefer established incalls or outcall. My experience in Tokyo is restricted to such, but I did venture into RLDs at night just for the fun. Incredibly clean and organized (like everything in Japan), the walk of shame you would feel elsewhere never kicks in.

    Hentai-Tokyo was my original target based on insights from this forum, but as I was browsing for intel, I came across an ad for Tokyo Amateur Escorts (https://amateurtokyo.com/), with a pricing structure that seemed more attractive, but no mention or reviews anywhere. I decided to pay them a visit and take one for the team if needed. They claim to only host Japanese girls, all under 25. Their website has very clear directions to their office near Shibuya subway station, but Google map will also take you there. The owner and his staff speak a bit of English, so easy to communicate. When I arrived the first time in late afternoon only 3 ladies were available despite lots listed on the website. All looked hot though. Another cause for concern is that when I made my choice, the owner shook his head and said 'no good', and suggested that I pick from the other 2, with a clear preference for one of them. My experiences with house recommendations around the world have been abysmal at best, so I was rather skeptical but did not wish to be impolite. Japanese are polite to a fault, so you feel a natural obligation to reciprocate. It was taking one for the team time.

    Prices on their website are accurate, I opted for 65 min /21 k yen. Just remember you have to pay additional 2 k admission fee and another 2 k selection fee, whatever those mean. I guess it is a way for the house to make base revenue they don't have to split with the provider. After the (forced) 'selection' I was given a piece of paper (in Japanese) to take next door to the love motel (I think Onyx is the name), where I had to pay for the room separately. They had options for 60 min to 4 hours, I chose 90 min, paid (about 3 k) and got my key. They used the piece of paper I was given to coordinate the room number with the agency so the lady knows where to find me. Other agencies I visited (including Tokyo-Hentai) do it differently, the lady either meets you at the office or at a predetermined location near the office and you walk together (holding hands) to their default love motel. I guess this is part of the 'girlfriend experience'.

    Anyway, back to the virgin experience. The room was small but clean and had all the essentials, a large screen TV, a toilet, a shower with bathtub, air conditioning (all 6 rooms I sessioned in at the Onyx were similar). The lady (going by Manami, https://amateurtokyo.com/%e6%a3%ae%e...1%aa%e3%81%bf/) knocked on the door after about 5 min. Young, hot, slender but shapely (feminine), tallish (about 5'6" almost modelesque. Spoke zero English, but very friendly personality and playful demeanor. My original skepticism began to melt instantly.

    After a brief google translate chit chat, she prepared two cups of mouthwash and gave me one. We gargled and then she took me to the shower and washed me front and back, lingering as needed on the essentials. These women know how to take care of their men. The GFE that followed was top shelf, inexperience mixed with innocence that made the experience feel very genuine and sensual, my style exactly. The lady also thoroughly enjoys what she does and delivered one of the best experiences I have had to date, and the best on this trip. She is the only one I repeated with despite so many options I wanted to sample. The house got it right this time, and their subsequent recommendations were spot on!

    My other experiences were variations of above. Only one lady seemed to do it as a job and I would never repeat with. The rest brought their 'A' game and delivered at a high level, like they really enjoyed what they do. Most of the ladies were also surprisingly true to age and appearance, especially Tokyo Amateur. Hentai ladies tended to be older than their posted photos / ages, but not by abnormal margins. I used them mostly in Osaka.

    My average per session damage at Tokyo amateur was 28 K including room cost (about USD 180 at going exchange rate), and it was my favorite agency for various reasons. No attempt at upsell (Hentai especially liked annoying upsell), one simple price for all ladies, most accurate age / pic match, and best performance-price ratio (excellent based on the service I got). You can also book with them via whatsapp, where they send you pics of ladies available at your preferred time slot, and even make recommendations based on your prior choices or preference.

    About Japanese women: Almost the opposite of what I was led to believe from reading numerous posts / blogs. I personally found them to be the most open-minded providers I have encountered anywhere in the world both in and out of the bedroom, by quite some margin. Brazilian women come a distant second in this regard. In terms of performance, the high level of A game they bring to the hobby is comparable only to the Brazilian women. While Brazilian women beat them in passion and PSE, they win hands down in overall GFE and sensuality.

    About 6 out of 10 women I sessioned with insisted on walking me to either the main street or all the way to the subway (5 to 10 min walk) after the session, hand in hand. Talk about GFE! This was the case in both Tokyo and Osaka (yes, I sessioned there too), so it was apparently not a unique phenomenon. And I am as far removed from Japanese-looking as can be.

    Useful tip: Do not pay for any upsell hoping to get better service. Let things flow organically in the room with the lady. Most of them won't disappoint you if you do your homework.

    I wish Japan wasn't so damn expensive to travel to and board in. This would have been my favorite mongering destination in addition to Brazil.

    Happy mongering my friends!

  3. #13624
    Fabulous post. Booking my ticket now.

    Are you supposed to tip the girls or not?

    Also, is it common to get the girl's number to have a one to one session separate from the club?

    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    Hi, I've been going Japan 20 for years, my account is actually that old but haven't logged in much. It's time to give back. I will write about oppai pubs first, but not sure how much interest there is so will keep it brief to start.

    Shinjuku has the most and best oppai pubs. Translated "breast club", it is typically all-you-can-drink where girls come and sit and chat and you can kiss them or suck on their tits. Ask them to hop on. Other guys around are doing the same, it is semi-private. There are extra charges if you want to buy the girl a drink. The most common rate is for 40 minutes of drinking where 3 girls visit you, so maybe 10 minutes per girl. A typical "promo" rate is 8000 yen for that, discounted to 6000 yen if it is early (8/10pm). So I can have 1-3 beers at a fixed price, obviously the draw is the girl. The system is in contrast to kabakura clubs where you don't touch the girls and you might get 60 minutes for 4000 with 2 girls (cheaper and longer, but no touch just talk).

  4. #13623
    Quote Originally Posted by SlickLicker  [View Original Post]
    But in Shinjuku try Soapland MAX. Bit hard to find by googling, but its gajin friendly and is like 32 k460.
    Since I just walked by the one in Asakusa I figured I'd take a photo. It's right outside the Tsukuba Express Asakusa station (not the main Asakusa station everyone goes to).

    Seems much cheaper than Shinjuku prices. In Asakusa's Max it's 14,000 yen for 40 minutes. Can't tell you about girl quality between the 2 locations but it's foreigner friendly per the sign.
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  5. #13622
    Quote Originally Posted by SlickLicker  [View Original Post]
    I went inside one random, on the door it said 30 k4120. Once inside, they show pics, I ask price. 80 k. HAHAH so I politly say sorry to much, my bad I thought I seen 30 k on the door. The guy mumbles english and japanese mixed together something about 30 k being the 'charge', but what the added cost is I've no clue, he did go down to 60 k BTW, I still passed.
    I had a similar experience at Yoshiwara, the system was weird where outside it said 30 k but inside they tell you a higher price (it was only like 44 k). But there was an explicit foreigner tax too. This was only at Yoshiwara. To be fair 120 minutes is a marathon and you can expect to pay a lot more for it but still 80 k is a tourist tax. In Yokohama outside it said clearly 50 minutes for 18000 yen, 70 minutes for 26000. That's the exact amount I paid. No foreigner tax.

    Yoshiwara is expensive by all standards. It is the Ginza of soaplands.

  6. #13621
    Quote Originally Posted by Daebis  [View Original Post]
    Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?

    Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?

    Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?
    Am I reading these numbers right? 60,000 or 150,000 yen? It should 1/2 or 1/3 the lower number unless the place is special in some way. My experience was in Yokohama, you can see my guide in the Yokohama thread about soapland there. At Kirakira (Hinodecho station) the rates are 50 minutes for 18000 yen ($112), 70 minutes for 26000. So..you could go Kira Kira about 3-8 times instead. You can reach Yokohama by rapid line from Shibuya / Shinagawa in about 35 minutes, then go Hinodecho station. They are open all day til late at night.

    I am sure there are better soaplands, Kira Kira is just average with decent looking women and good rooms. Kira Kira (formerly Mermaid) has a long history of taking foreigners, no upcharge. You need some Japanese of course, but not a lot. First thing they ask is if you have a reservation, if you can't get past that level of understanding I can't help you. Read the guide I wrote for more tips. I did window shop soaplands in Tokyo with a friend, they were a bit more expensive but not the prices I'm hearing (you are not the first to quote those numbers). Only 25% of shops took in foreigners, and at those shops only a few girls would take us. Plus they added on 10000 to the price. So we refused, we had other options.

    There are some super high end soaplands that charge 60,000. You would consistently expect a young girl there plus a much nicer room, if not extra services. It is inconceivably expensive for soapland, so someone is getting ripped off if the prices go up from there. Those are "tourist only" prices. Not even actual JAV porn star soaplands charge that much.

    At some point you might as well fly all the way to America or another country for a young jgirl because in the USA the rate for a 20's year old cute jgirl is $340 an hour. $100 for bb, $200 for video. A few are actual JAV porn stars that match the girl in the video (but always b-listers I never heard of and had to look up). It's a trend now due to the exchange rate. See my posts on the USAG forum. This is why I don't bother with soapland except out of pure curiosity. I am not expecting a cute young girl there, I just want to be in my favorite JAV for an hour and see what it's like. I'm glad I tried.

    I think TAG is where I heard about Kira Kira. I wrote a review there long ago but can't find my login anymore. There were Tokyo soaplands mentioned there, however frankly I can't be bothered to go for reasons I've already listed. I'm not interested in soapland, I'm just happy to help someone else if they want to.

    If you want, you can reserve a girl. I just went out of curiosity so I didn't bother, just walked in:
    https://kirakira.yokohama/

  7. #13620
    Quote Originally Posted by Daebis  [View Original Post]
    Hi.

    Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?

    Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?

    Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?

    Thanks.
    I'm far from the expert, so there's probably a lot more than I know about.

    But in Shinjuku try Soapland MAX. Bit hard to find by googling, but its gajin friendly and is like 32 k460.

    In Yoshiwara it swarms with soaplands. Contrary to what I'm reading that most are not gajin friendly. I was invited inside almost every door, although I'm pretty sure most would add up a pretty hefty taks for not being japanese. (FYI I don't look asian, I don't speak any asain let alone japanese.) So could be it was just a slow day and they wanted customers, I don't know. I went inside one random, on the door it said 30 k4120. Once inside, they show pics, I ask price. 80 k. HAHAH so I politly say sorry to much, my bad I thought I seen 30 k on the door. The guy mumbles english and japanese mixed together something about 30 k being the 'charge', but what the added cost is I've no clue, he did go down to 60 k BTW, I still passed.

    But anyway, in this area there's some affordable soaplands too. Though, I am guessing higher price here does mean better quality at least in rooms and maintanance. I went for a cheaper one and it was kinda like 20 years overdue for a refurb. I mean, almost any Thai soapy in Bangkok is in better state haha, even the shitty ones in the ally's LOL.

  8. #13619

    Are there any Cheaper SOAPYs in Shinjuku or roppongi areas?

    Hi.

    Every report I have gone through on TokyoAdultguide, people seem to pay 60000-150000 for a session?

    Are there cheaper places. First time visiting, also except for the 2-3 pink salons welcoming foreigners, there are no others?

    Are there and foreigner friendly pink salons or soapies around roppongi?

    Thanks.

  9. #13618
    Quote Originally Posted by David032  [View Original Post]
    Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.

    I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.
    I tend to agree with this take, being a foreigner was an asset for me with Japanese women, not an impediment as many report here. For the first time in my life I casually hooked up with a regular chick at shopping mall (Shibuya) where we connected over some trivial stuff. She spoke limited English, I made a joke after a purchase and complimented her appearance and manners, we locked eyes, and it was on. I wasn't looking for a hookup, but would have been an idiot to let this go.

  10. #13617
    Quote Originally Posted by David032  [View Original Post]
    Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.

    I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.

    Now if you walk out expecting girls just to flock with you cause your a foreigner or ganjin yeah not going to happen. But if you go looking with minimal effort you should find something. Hell I am baning a soapland girl for free because she thought I was a nice guy. I went out to grab sushi and a drink one time ended up at karaoke with three girls slept with one.
    I don't disagree with many of the points you've made, though I consider it unrealistic for most people. So you may have really confused what I said. No need to make a contest about this.

    You are talking for example about hookups going to a hookup bar. I'm not interested as I said, with exceptions it's just a waste of my time. In my travels I rejected a lot of women. If I wasn't particular, I would have had way more women and I don't want that.

    Maybe that wasn't clear to you or just hard to accept that I want something very different. I don't consider quantity to have any merit. But if you consider it to be the only measure of worth I have probably had a lot more women than you thanks to p4p. And that is all I'm here to help people with, so they can do the same, not to brag and tell people it's going to be easy.

    The only reason I wrote anything at all about meeting women is someone asked for help. It's good you gave your thoughts as well. We need different perspectives. These talks should be about what will work for other people, not about me. I think your ideas will help some people, and so will mine.

    So there is no need for you to say I am doing something wrong. I don't judge others but it would be too easy for me to say you are doing it wrong. I don't because I recognize you are enjoying what you do, the same that I enjoy what I'm doing.

    When I compare the fun and caliber of women I've had through meeting women vs p4p, it's not even close. Yes there are a few exceptions I treasure, but by and large the ladies aren't in the same league or even close to the same league. To be fair I am going to romance a woman closer to my age and enjoy her company. And I am going to want to bang a younger and more beautiful woman, too. So we need both types of women, civvie and p4p.

    I could have easily written my posts about oppai pubs and meeting women as only positives and leaving out the negatives to set realistic expectations. I didn't. I feel your post really does. It reads "A fat foreigner can go to Japan and steal its women". I know what you meant, however do you get that? It's not about you or me but what some guy in his 20s reading this will think and do next. You and I were both there at some point in our lives. There are not enough of us in this world so let's not fight. Let's just help them.

  11. #13616
    Quote Originally Posted by TravelerX  [View Original Post]
    I agree with this 100%. I had to try 10 x as hard as a Japanese guy to get a date with the same girl. So I did. Do not come on strong, that is repulsive. Trying hard means putting effort into yourself, your look, your behavior, your skills and assets. You have to have basic cultural sensitivity to succeed. Be a true gentleman if you want to thrive.

    There is no point in even trying to date Japanese women unless you actually prefer them. I do, so that's why I'm willing to try 10 times as hard as most people. I learned Japanese mainly so I can date Japanese women. It's not worth it if you prefer other women.

    90% of girls are not even going to consider you an option. Of the 10%, well since I am decent looking but not especially attractive, only 10% of them would even consider me. I can work with that 1%. I use my many other talents and assets. Since I genuinely like women, it is easy for me to have a conversation with many women without the context of expecting anything from them. That's what a gentleman does. I talk to grandmas, guys, anyone where the situation is appropriate. I do not approach grandmas or mothers but the situation comes up naturally. I'm not asking anything from them. If you behave with good manners it's a pleasure. I am confident, well dressed, and behave well so it does not raise alarms with women. Then when occasionally I talk with a woman of the right age who gives me the right signs, I decide if I like her or not and move from there. Be prepared to talk to hundreds of people, some of them women, this way. A person who does it differently than this is just doing nampa and will get what that gets. Go ahead but I don't recommend it and I won't help you.

    Next step is to find the right venue where you maximize compatible women to meet so that you are allowed to naturally approach them, such as a club. Do not approach women who have no choice, such as the lady working at Starbucks. Don't be that guy, just do it the right way. As I said, I know a lot of guys aren't sincere so I am not going to give tips on nampa. I know it's going to happen but it's one reason Japanese women don't take foreigners seriously. That's why I suggest Roppongi because at least that's 50-50 GF / nampa where you might actually meet a girlfriend or someone who wants some fun (you are not going to find many girls who 100% want one or the other there). Just don't pretend to be something you're not and hurt someone. That's bad form no matter the country.
    Don't take this the wrong way but if you struggled that hard and spoke Japanese the problem might be you. That or your location. Honestly I have dated in Japan and have had none of the issues you mentioned. It got easier as my Japanese got better. You either need to change something with your approach or something. Even with as fat as I am I can go to the HUB in Shibuya and pull something 50% of the time. Me and a friend joke Japan is a steal your girl country. We have both lost count of how many girls who had boyfriend's and we're married hooked up with us with ease.

    I have lost count of how many girls working girls I have gotten the number of or dated. The more I read I think your approach to girls might be off.

    Now if you walk out expecting girls just to flock with you cause your a foreigner or ganjin yeah not going to happen. But if you go looking with minimal effort you should find something. Hell I am baning a soapland girl for free because she thought I was a nice guy. I went out to grab sushi and a drink one time ended up at karaoke with three girls slept with one.

  12. #13615
    If you like Japanese girls there is a simplier way to get them than being a "gentleman" and having to learn the language.

    Just go to Dubai: https://vip-dubai-bunnies.com/girls/...-in-dubai-uae/.

  13. #13614
    Quote Originally Posted by BananaBoi  [View Original Post]
    Imo being gaijin in Japan is a huge negative, not a positive.
    I agree with this 100%. I had to try 10 x as hard as a Japanese guy to get a date with the same girl. So I did. Do not come on strong, that is repulsive. Trying hard means putting effort into yourself, your look, your behavior, your skills and assets. You have to have basic cultural sensitivity to succeed. Be a true gentleman if you want to thrive.

    There is no point in even trying to date Japanese women unless you actually prefer them. I do, so that's why I'm willing to try 10 times as hard as most people. I learned Japanese mainly so I can date Japanese women. It's not worth it if you prefer other women.

    90% of girls are not even going to consider you an option. Of the 10%, well since I am decent looking but not especially attractive, only 10% of them would even consider me. I can work with that 1%. I use my many other talents and assets. Since I genuinely like women, it is easy for me to have a conversation with many women without the context of expecting anything from them. That's what a gentleman does. I talk to grandmas, guys, anyone where the situation is appropriate. I do not approach grandmas or mothers but the situation comes up naturally. I'm not asking anything from them. If you behave with good manners it's a pleasure. I am confident, well dressed, and behave well so it does not raise alarms with women. Then when occasionally I talk with a woman of the right age who gives me the right signs, I decide if I like her or not and move from there. Be prepared to talk to hundreds of people, some of them women, this way. A person who does it differently than this is just doing nampa and will get what that gets. Go ahead but I don't recommend it and I won't help you.

    Next step is to find the right venue where you maximize compatible women to meet so that you are allowed to naturally approach them, such as a club. Do not approach women who have no choice, such as the lady working at Starbucks. Don't be that guy, just do it the right way. As I said, I know a lot of guys aren't sincere so I am not going to give tips on nampa. I know it's going to happen but it's one reason Japanese women don't take foreigners seriously. That's why I suggest Roppongi because at least that's 50-50 GF / nampa where you might actually meet a girlfriend or someone who wants some fun (you are not going to find many girls who 100% want one or the other there). Just don't pretend to be something you're not and hurt someone. That's bad form no matter the country.

  14. #13613
    Quote Originally Posted by Incrociatore  [View Original Post]
    What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese?
    I was going to take a guy an American guy around Japan cause at first he said he loved Japan culture. Then as I talked to him more turns out he had the same misconception you have that he will be able to bang Japanese girls for free because he's American. I rolled my eyes, said he can go ahead and try while I'm enjoying a nice dinner somewhere else. Imo being gaijin in Japan is a huge negative, not a positive.

  15. #13612
    Quote Originally Posted by Incrociatore  [View Original Post]
    Hello fellow mongers,

    What are the chances to get laid in Tokyo for free, with little or no Japanese? I am from Europe, looking in my 30, and decent looking. I have seen many interviews, and Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners. Does anyone of you have any free, no pay, experience in Tokyo / Osaka? I'll be there for at least a month.

    Thanks.
    This is too complicated to explain in one post. If you make the effort and take the time, you can do it. If you don't, then based on what you said you won't. In "30's and decent looking" combined with "no Japanese" means you have to make up for it in time and effort. Even a very charming and attractive European will need to at least try. Unless you are at the right place with the context of pickup being an option (ex. A club area), no women will even talk to you no matter how attractive you are. Whereas at the right place, even a more average looking guy has a chance but no woman is going to be clamoring for him. He has to demonstrate value.

    I have very extensive experience dating Japanese women. It is a misconception that "Japanese women seem all desperate to date foreigners" that's total BS. 90% of Japanese women won't touch foreign men and will run. But 10% of Japanese women is 6 million people. But narrowing it down (exclude too young and old, those in secure relationships, etc.) and making the right approach at the right place is everything. It is everything. Find the right girl and focus on her, don't try to put a circle peg in a square hole. Even if a Japanese woman is interested in foreigners, she is probably not interested in you.

    For the "just for fun" completely cold approach (walk up to a girl you like) I and my friends had the most success at Roppongi at night around or in the club areas. Friday and Saturday nights have the crowds. I do not want to set unrealistic expectations by talking about our experiences. You see, we made the effort. We made the best of what we had. We demonstrated value. In fact I knew what my friend liked and after chatting with many girls at a club I said to one girl she would like my friend (true). They ended up dating. You cannot force two people to be a match, they are either going to like each other and be each other's "type" or not. Even when you see a guy pick up a girl for fun, there is a mutual benefit that may be hard to see. One way or another that guy is her type or idea of fun.

    That friend of mine actually brought along another friend that same night and introduced me. He was very conventionally handsome. However, he was very shy. He was nervous just talking about going to the club (first time). As a result, he got exactly nothing despite me trying several times to get him to talk to a girl I just met. Well, he did get something. The power of experience for next time where he might succeed. Anyways, you have to make the effort! He knew where he was at, he was still young, but he was afraid to talk to women like many of us were when younger. So there you have it, it is not one thing that does it but you have to offer something. I would not say it is easy.

    Others might chime in on better ways to just bang for free. It happens all the time but is not easy like guys brag about. I suppose I was looking for girls to bang and also hang out with, so I cared a lot about things like personality and looks. So if your standards are loose there might be clubs that focus just on that. Or online, it works but it takes effort and has its own issues.

    There is a difference between "just for fun" and "actually dating" Japanese women. Complete opposite approach. If you are sincere and actually looking for a real girlfriend, you could find them in your friend circle through work, school, hobby. Or go with friends to a club like the ones in Roppongi. At least one if not all of you should be decent at approaching women with the "cold approach" method. I have not tried the "club for sex" method because I don't think I'd meet a girl I'd like there. I don't think you would either. Otherwise there'd be a line out the door. It is a niche.

    I have met women "just for sex" but it is not simple or easy. It takes work and practice. There was no formula or steps to follow for that to happen, I met the girl completely naturally. If you are in Japan a month that might never happen. The whole point of paying for play is it is consistent, if there was a reliable way to play for free nobody would pay for it.

    Unfortunately most guys aren't sincere so I am reluctant to write a guide. I care about Japanese women believe it or not, they have done more for me than any Western women even knows how. If you are going "just for fun" don't pretend too hard otherwise or you will hurt a girl more. Best if the girl understands you are there for fun, maybe something more could happen, but you are just there "to meet people". Women are not going to bang for nothing unless you are extremely attractive / charming. In that case they are not banging for nothing, either.

    The whole reason I go to oppai pubs and p4p is I do not like "dating women for fun" and hurting their feelings by playing with them. As I said, I am not some guy who tricks women into showing me a good time with nothing good enough in return. Me and my other riend have done that unintentionally with our ex girlfriends when young and we don't like it.

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