Sosua Reports

[Oakie]

FWIW, I only do TLN with girls I already know that I have a good rapport with. This has worked well for me over time, and I usually don't pay substantially more for all night than for a two-hour session. Maybe if you have a good short session with a girl from a casa, strip club, or wherever, you can later negotiate a reasonable TLN rate. You can at least avoid the "take-out" fee that the strip clubs charge..

This is good advice.

From what I've seen, heard, and experienced, trying to get a good TLN session with a complete stranger in Sosua, is fraught with potential problems.

Much better to take her for a test drive first, so you know her habits, her personal schedule etc. and if she can deliver what you're looking for. Otherwise you're likely to be woken up in the middle of the night by a chica with her clothes on asking to be paid (or propina, motoconcho fare) and escorted out of the hotel.

[StudBucket]

WOW, 2000 for TLN?

That's what's up.

How much do you give for short stay in Sosua (say 1-2 hour session, 2 pops)?

You can certainty get some TLN girls in Sosua for 2 k. They won't certainly be 8's or 9's in looks, but she may be a strong 7. It will have to be probably closer to closing time and have good chemistry with her. Most will ask 2. 5 to 3 k for TLN. The cost for short time in Sosua cost me 1500 usually, so this is why I would rather pay 1 k more pesos (23 dollars USA More) and get her TLN.

[StudBucket]

You went to all the upper end places in Medellin. If you have any Spanish speaking skills and can handle a street scene try Avenida De La Grief and the Botero Plaza area of Medellin. You can get tons of girls for $ 10 for short time,. If you speak Spanish you can line up plenty of girls that would accept $ 50 or less for TLN but they won't be on par beauty wise with the girls in the places you mentioned that you visited. I haven't been to CR in a while but wouldn't waste my time in the Del Rey, as I always went to where the locals went like Molino Rojo. As previously mentioned, speaking a fair amount of Spanish is paramount.

Thanks for the advice Surfer 500, I will check these out next time. Yes, I am fluent in Spanish and can charm the chicas. I just prefer nightime venues like clubs, bars, or even strip clubs to get the criteria I mentioned. I will still check these out though for sure. Thanks for answering my questions though, I did not mean to tie up this thread with my hunt for a Golden Egg. I promise to continue to contribute as much as I can to this board or help fellow members when I know the answer...

[StudBucket]

This parameter makes it much more difficult! I don't know about Bogota, but in MDE and Cali, all the places with 40+ girls are quite expensive for takeout.

FWIW, I only do TLN with girls I already know that I have a good rapport with. This has worked well for me over time, and I usually don't pay substantially more for all night than for a two-hour session. Maybe if you have a good short session with a girl from a casa, strip club, or wherever, you can later negotiate a reasonable TLN rate. You can at least avoid the "take-out" fee that the strip clubs charge.

In Rio, I occasionally had Termas girls sleep over after work or on their off-day. I haven't done this with strip club girls in Colombia, but I'm sure one can. If you have a nice apartment, some of the girls might be quite amenable to this option.

Exactly, this parameter (at least 40 girls in the venue and some who will do TLN) make it difficult. I guess I got lucky finding the'Latins (thanks to this forum) and Rumbas as these parameters are there. I know there I can pull 7s, 8s, for TLN for 2 to 3 k depending on the night, crowd factor, quality of the girl, etc. This is my dilemma though, there are not too many places like this in Latin America, and the closing of Help Disco in Rio killed 1 venue that had this criteria. That is why I posted my original question on this thread.

[Mr Gogo]

You went to all the upper end places in Medellin. If you have any Spanish speaking skills and can handle a street scene try Avenida De La Grief and the Botero Plaza area of Medellin. You can get tons of girls for $ 10 for short time,. If you speak Spanish you can line up plenty of girls that would accept $ 50 or less for TLN but they won't be on par beauty wise with the girls in the places you mentioned that you visited. I haven't been to CR in a while but wouldn't waste my time in the Del Rey, as I always went to where the locals went like Molino Rojo. As previously mentioned, speaking a fair amount of Spanish is paramount.

I just don't understand guys that fuck ugly / fat girls for less than 50 USD when they travel. Sure its available but I'm not traveling for that. To each his own, and I agree. Fuck those Union tricks in Delrey who ask for 100 USD before they give you their name. It isn't worth it. Medellin is not for TLN but the girls can be had in a certain way. What I do is hit the strip clubs like Luna luneras, Sandiego, faze dos, and ejective and set up dates later by getting their numbers. They would come over before work and spend the afternoon and evening with me for 60 USD and then I could club hop late at night. The girls are beautiful and sweet but you have to keep it in check. For you guys traveling looking for wives and a serious relationship, be careful. Most of these girls from Latin countries don't adapt well to non-Latin cultures. Its easier for you to adjust to her Latin culture than her to yours. You can learn the language, the dancing etc. Guys with money and a weak heart WILL get burned.

I haven't been posting much lately on the Dominican board because I have found my happiness somewhere else. I'm talking about a place that is completely safe and its a throwback to a time when people had respect and appreciated good romance and sex. Those of you who are my friends know where I'm talking about. Lets just say its the last place on earth like this. My advise to guys searching for such a place is to go where other guys aren't going and make your own paradise.

Also I talked to Jao the other day and he told me to say Hello, to BQ and Mr E.

[Combo]

I guess this is part of the issue I'm having, and need to be a little more specific about my requests. We are looking for venues in Latin American cities where there are at least 40 girls or more in one venue. The reason for this, is that I usually go out at night for mongering, and I am with 2 or 3 buddies, so we need ample selection. In Sosua, my favorite hunting ground is the'Latins. I do like Cocal at Jaco, and Del Rey due to the amount of selection. So, I know its achievable for me hunting solo, to get a street walker, internet girl, etc. But I should have listed one of my criteria, as having a venue where one can go out at night and have at least 40 or more girls like the' Latins, Cocal in Jaco, etc. But that has girls that will do TLN (all night long) for $75 to $125 max or less.

Thanks Again.

SB.

This parameter makes it much more difficult! I don't know about Bogota, but in MDE and Cali, all the places with 40+ girls are quite expensive for takeout.

FWIW, I only do TLN with girls I already know that I have a good rapport with. This has worked well for me over time, and I usually don't pay substantially more for all night than for a two-hour session. Maybe if you have a good short session with a girl from a casa, strip club, or wherever, you can later negotiate a reasonable TLN rate. You can at least avoid the "take-out" fee that the strip clubs charge.

In Rio, I occasionally had Termas girls sleep over after work or on their off-day. I haven't done this with strip club girls in Colombia, but I'm sure one can. If you have a nice apartment, some of the girls might be quite amenable to this option.

[Surfer500]

thanks for the response mr. e and all other forum members. my experience in latin america mongering was only limited to sosua, brazil (rio and sao paulo), costa rica (san jose and jaco), and colombia (bogota / medellin). i guess most of my mongering has occurred in the wrong venues, it sounds like, other than sosua. because when i went to bogota and medellin, the girls i met were only in the strip clubs and they wanted short time only unless it was super expensive. perhaps, my going to more commercial places like fase dos, la isla, loutron in medellin, and in bogota we went to the zona rosa, had something with me being able to not find these types of girls. in brazil, in sao paulo i went to the boites like scandolo, which have high quality chicks but these were short time oriented. in rio, i went to help which was all night long for $100 us dollars but since that closed i was not able to find a place like that. having been to barbarellas in rio, of course, this is also short time chicks.

can you recommend mr. e a few places with good quality girls in bogota that y such ou can find these long time girls or maybe i will peek through your former posts, which are many. someone mentioned to me the del rey can offer lt, but as i said, the girls did not want to budge off the $200 price for tln.

you went to all the upper end places in medellin. if you have any spanish speaking skills and can handle a street scene try avenida de la grief and the botero plaza area of medellin. you can get tons of girls for $ 10 for short time,. if you speak spanish you can line up plenty of girls that would accept $ 50 or less for tln but they won't be on par beauty wise with the girls in the places you mentioned that you visited. i haven't been to cr in a while but wouldn't waste my time in the del rey, as i always went to where the locals went like molino rojo. as previously mentioned, speaking a fair amount of spanish is paramount.

[Wrx2005]

I am sure there are many factors that play into it but amicable divorce is a possibility. My brother was a resident of NY when this happened but the point I was making still stands: if the wife does not have a profession to enable her to make the money she needs to sustain a lifestyle she was used to while married, things will go south for the richer party. I have no idea of what happens to drug dealers or other hypothetical questions raised (not by you). It is clear especially that if her only asset was her physique, which will have depreciated compared to someone who brings her brain into the equation and whose earnings will only grow with time, the road would definitely would be fraught with trouble for the richer party. Marry up, is a sensible thought instead of only blaming the woman. After all, it takes two to tango.

Aint nobody arguing against the possibility of couples having an amicable divorce.

Many of the issues that concern men does not even have to be about being in a marriage. And there aint nothing marrying up is going to do to resolve those issues. Just because a woman makes money or can take care of herself, that does not mean she has good character, or that she will make a compatible mate. Especially months or years down the road. Much of what men discuss is what happens during the get to know you phase. Before a relationship is even established. Thats why I said to you before, that I don't know what ballfield you are in talking about marrying up, when a man may not have even got that far.

Not surprising, enough women have a self serving perspective as well, as depicted in the exchange one of the guys showed us with the woman claiming she believes men are supposed to take care of their woman, and do XY and Z. Whats the problem here? That mentality in enough women is an epidemic. On a date, or just meeting, the man in front of you is not your man yet, and she is not his woman. So there is no need for a woman to be expecting some man to be taking care of her while they are only just getting to know each other. Moreover, what role is the woman playing to give that man incentive to even want to pursue her? Since sex aint on the table for possibly up to 5 dates, what in the hell is she offering besides agreeing to go out? And please don't tell me to make sure you date a woman that makes enough money. Any man with enough experience knows that just because a woman is educated, successful or has the means to pay during the get to know you phase, many don't or are reluctant, due to having an entitlement mentality, or they have hangups about contributing equitably towards the same goal. They think they are supposed to be pursued, wined and dined, while they sit there deciding if some man is worth it. Phuck that!

If a woman has a problem giving up the ass, well then she better consider putting in some kind of commensurate effort if she expects an aware man to seek anything substantive with her. Or at the very least a 2nd date. Many men understand all of this, and can discuss it rationally. It doesn't mean they are walking around with ill will towards women or wish them harm. Quite the contrary. For the most part enough men have already solved any concerns they have by going their own way. But will treat any woman with basic respect unless she gives him reason not to. That applies to domestic or women abroad.

They could care less what certain women are doing in life or caring about their gripes. In terms of not finding a decent man. As far as they are concerned, women who are incompatible with their needs and those that support them, are free to do and think whatever they want. As long as it doesn't impose on that mans peace of mind. Traveling abroad or simply refusing to entertain incompatible women / situations has certainly relieved a great deal of frustration and un necessary dependence.

[StudBucket]

Easily obtainable throughout Latin America. It's not dependent on the location, it is dependent on YOU. Ability to speak the language is paramount, friendly personality etc. Ability and willingness to travel outside the usual haunts where the girls know they can get the big dollar.

I guess this is part of the issue I'm having, and need to be a little more specific about my requests. We are looking for venues in Latin American cities where there are at least 40 girls or more in one venue. The reason for this, is that I usually go out at night for mongering, and I am with 2 or 3 buddies, so we need ample selection. In Sosua, my favorite hunting ground is the'Latins. I do like Cocal at Jaco, and Del Rey due to the amount of selection. So, I know its achievable for me hunting solo, to get a street walker, internet girl, etc. But I should have listed one of my criteria, as having a venue where one can go out at night and have at least 40 or more girls like the' Latins, Cocal in Jaco, etc. But that has girls that will do TLN (all night long) for $75 to $125 max or less.

Thanks Again.

SB.

[Haunted]

I think a few months ago I gave a girl in Sosua 2000 pesos TLN and that was only because I was staying in her room for the night. That ties the soapys in Thailand, 4X4 termas in Rio, and Adelitas in Tijuana for the most I have ever paid for P4P period.

WOW, 2000 for TLN?

That's what's up.

How much do you give for short stay in Sosua (say 1-2 hour session, 2 pops)?

[StudBucket]

sb i'm having a hard time trying to figure where in latin america you can't get a chick to stay with you for $125/ night. that is a lot of damn money in those parts. it all depends on where you shop and how you negotiate. you mentioned bogota. everytime i hit a short time chick there for $10, i ask about tln rates and have always come to a $50 agreement although i have never needed to take any up on it because tln is non-pro territory for me for the most part. i think a few months ago i gave a girl in sosua 2000 pesos tln and that was only because i was staying in her room for the night. that ties the soapys in thailand, 4x4 termas in rio, and adelitas in tijuana for the most i have ever paid for p4p period.

thanks for the response mr. e and all other forum members. my experience in latin america mongering was only limited to sosua, brazil (rio and sao paulo), costa rica (san jose and jaco), and colombia (bogota / medellin). i guess most of my mongering has occurred in the wrong venues, it sounds like, other than sosua. because when i went to bogota and medellin, the girls i met were only in the strip clubs and they wanted short time only unless it was super expensive. perhaps, my going to more commercial places like fase dos, la isla, loutron in medellin, and in bogota we went to the zona rosa, had something with me being able to not find these types of girls. in brazil, in sao paulo i went to the boites like scandolo, which have high quality chicks but these were short time oriented. in rio, i went to help which was all night long for $100 us dollars but since that closed i was not able to find a place like that. having been to barbarellas in rio, of course, this is also short time chicks.

can you recommend mr. e a few places with good quality girls in bogota that you can find these long time girls or maybe i will peek through your former posts, which are many. someone mentioned to me the del rey can offer lt, but as i said, the girls did not want to budge off the $200 price for tln.

[Combo]

SB I'm having a hard time trying to figure where in Latin America you CAN'T get a chick to stay with you for $125/ night. That is a lot of damn money in those parts. It all depends on where you shop and how you negotiate. You mentioned Bogota. Everytime I hit a Short Time chick there for $10, I ask about TLN rates and have always come to a $50 agreement although I have never needed to take any up on it because TLN is non-pro territory for me for the most part. I think a few months ago I gave a girl in Sosua 2000 pesos TLN and that was only because I was staying in her room for the night. That ties the soapys in Thailand, 4X4 termas in Rio, and Adelitas in Tijuana for the most I have ever paid for P4P period.

I agree. The only place where it may be tough would be Rio, and even there, it's certainly doable.

Having said that, one needs to have a bit of moxie. If you're one of these guys who just pays whatever a chica asks, you may have a problem staying within that budget.

[Mr Enternational]

SB I'm having a hard time trying to figure where in Latin America you CAN'T get a chick to stay with you for $125/ night. That is a lot of damn money in those parts. It all depends on where you shop and how you negotiate. You mentioned Bogota. Everytime I hit a Short Time chick there for $10, I ask about TLN rates and have always come to a $50 agreement although I have never needed to take any up on it because TLN is non-pro territory for me for the most part. I think a few months ago I gave a girl in Sosua 2000 pesos TLN and that was only because I was staying in her room for the night. That ties the soapys in Thailand, 4X4 termas in Rio, and Adelitas in Tijuana for the most I have ever paid for P4P period.

[Wrx2005]

I agree with all points by Wrx2005.

This book was written by a woman, and she echoes the same sentiments:

Men on Strike: Why Men Are Boycotting Marriage, Fatherhood, and the American Dream - and Why It Matters

American society has become anti-male. Men are sensing the backlash and are consciously and unconsciously going on strike. They are dropping out of college, leaving the workforce and avoiding marriage and fatherhood at alarming rates. The trend is so pronounced that a number of books have been written about this man-child phenomenon, concluding that men have taken a vacation from responsibility simply because they can. But why should men participate in a system that seems to be increasingly stacked against them?

As Men on Strike demonstrates, men aren't dropping out because they are stuck in arrested development. They are instead acting rationally in response to the lack of incentives society offers them to be responsible fathers, husbands and providers. In addition, men are going on strike, either consciously or unconsciously, because they do not want to be injured by the myriad of laws, attitudes and hostility against them for the crime of happening to be male in the twenty-first century. Men are starting to fight back against the backlash. Men on Strike explains their battle cry.

http://www.amazon.com/Men-Strike-Boy...2256976&sr=8-1

Certain parts I'm in accord with. But I'm leery of the parts talking about men dropping out of college, leaving the workforce at alarming rates in response to an anti-male society. That part would have to be explained further.

I do support the part that says many men are avoiding marriage at alarming rates. The issue of avoiding fatherhood is debatable. We need to distinguish what is meant by avoiding fatherhood and who is making the assessment? Does it mean not having children? Does it mean some man has given up on being disrespected or his presence unappreciated? Or is this an attempt to say men don't want responsibility? We need to be clear on this because many men get a bum rap. For instance, many men are responsible towards their children except they don't live in the same household. They may be supporting their children, but are not in the system. Or, there are many men being fathers to a womans children fathered by other men. A good complement of men become frustrated and sick and tired of not being appreciated. So if they leave, they are not trying to avoid fatherhood, they are divorcing themselves from something that is not beneficial to them in the long run. So with all of that going on, who is taking into account the existence of these men that may be the backbone or support system for many children and households out there?

As far as college is concerned, many men have exercised alternatives to formal education and / or chose their own career paths to make a life for themselves. That article is suggesting that men are dropping out of college in response to an anti male society? When I think what is more likely, men are dropping out or not choosing college because they can get where they need to go through alternative means. It is no secret that not everyone with a degree or a college education will be successful. Many women are sold on the idea that if you arent in college or don't have a degree you aint shit. So enough men opt out of that mindset. Moreover, men don't have a backup support system as much as women do if they fail or have setbacks. Men can't typically turn to towards women to support them while they pursue their education or career goals.

Other than that, I probably need to read the book to really be sure what the authors POV really is. I'm usually leery of books by women trying to articulate the concerns of men. But I am glad you brought this up. Because this is what men are discussing in regards to the issues they face. It aint just aimless whining as a certain breed of men would like to make this out to be.

[Orgasmico]

Further what's being discussed here are some issues men encounter or are aware of due to what's expected and practiced within their respective cultures, much of which may not be in a mans best interest.

So many women in this world. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwKR_rZz-8M#t=149.