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08-12-18 18:20 #2785
Posts: 2065I was thinking. You know that thing you do when you talk to yourself without moving your mouth. Anyway, I wondered what the Bell Curve says about the 1-10 scale. This is in regards to, as you would guess, the subjective rating system that most men understand and practice.
The Bell Curve says that only 4% of a population is a 9 or higher. An additional 7% are an 8. 12% score a 7. So roughly a quarter of women are 7 or higher.
Based on my experience, the Bell Curve would be about right for the general population. Given that the top agencies are probably a superior representation of the young female population, it's likely their line-ups are made up of 7's, 8's and a few 9's. My personal opinion would be over 90% of the girls are 7's and 8's. Perhaps you could unscientifically double the 4% above and say 1 out of 12 girls at the top agencies are a 9. Perhaps 1 in 10 when a top agency has had a good run of recruiting and retention. I'm contrasting this with the deluge of 9's that are thrown around on the local board. Does anyone have a different opinion?
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08-12-18 16:53 #2784
Posts: 2065Jelly Belly, great reviews. You are entitled to your different perspective. Things here at ISG are more open. You could get some flack from a local wandering into the conversation, but they have no clout here nor do they have the free rein to shout you down. I have joked about how Montreal must have 9's walking everywhere while in my major city I could walk around all day and never see a girl who is a 9 looker.
I'm disappointed that XO gave you the run around. I think that has come up in discussions including the clock-watching in various places, but it is certainly not allowed to go too far on the green board. Mongerer88 is a student, or more accurately professor, of the MTL scene. He might have something to add.
I do want to question one comment. "Euphoria seems to have the best looking girls. " While it's obviously subjective, how did you come to that conclusion?
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08-12-18 14:06 #2783
Posts: 510Originally Posted by JellyBelly [View Original Post]
I too tried to see Shelly and only incalls were offered. Let me ask you, what was the duration of action you were requesting? I know if you request a minimum 2 Hour booking you increase your likelihood. Logistically speaking, it is a lot easier for a provider to stay in an incall an and see clients. Logistically it's easier on the agency as well as transport in and from outcall can be delayed due to notorious Montreal traffic. The agency may be able to fit in another client in all that time it takes transporting the provider back and forth.
Heard Amanda comes out for an outcall if it's 2 hours min. Perhaps death man can shed light on this? Someone has mentioned on the other board that Jamie will come out for 3 Hour bookings if she's not on schedule. Well at least for some. Problem is some of us can't afford that. Also, what if you don't click with the provider? In that scenario, shit even 1 Hour is torture. I had Scarlett for a two hour outcall. The time flew by easy with her. Same with Hanna.
I had mentioned in a earlier post somewhere that safia is a francophone. What was your assessment of her level of English. Her reviews are quite variable and others have mentioned she's quite beautiful. Do you think language was an issue or not really?
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08-12-18 03:47 #2782
Posts: 17Trip review.
Just got back from a few days in Montreal. Got the bait and switch feeling with XO all week. Booked for the week, everyday last minute cancel then get a list of who's available.
XO canceled 5 appointments in 4 days and only offered incall for all the more popular ladies (anyone over $220). Shelly, Shelly, Amanda, Katie, Elena and Dakota All got canceled last minute. Saw Safia (after Elena canceled) & Meghan. Both were subpar. Safia. Looks 6, personality-5, performance-5 Just wanted to do the bare minimum and go, has invasiline plastic braces in, couldn't do BBBJ much, and also kept coughing the entire hour (I hope I don't get sick from her). Wanted to upsell 3 some with her friends. Stay away. Meghan- didn't see all the beauty everyone was raving about, she is thicker than I pictured. I rate her face GND or a 7, performance was -6.5 personality was OK - 7 . I was the first of the day, got the code to go in at 12:15, by 12:50 she's asking me to finish up. I wasn't feeling it with her so I just finished up and left. If your the first of the day and she drags. Its on you. I had another booking with her the next day, but I canceled it. Would not repeat with her. Just my perspective not trying to start a argument with anyone.
Vogue, Euphoria & Velveltlove were all easy and great to book with. Euphoria seems to have the best looking girls. Most of the girls I saw were reviewed here already and if its basically the same I'll leave it out. I'll just add anything different.
Eiley. Euphoria - young inexperienced & hot as hell. Face - 8. 5 with her hair down 9. Performance - 7, BBBJ CIM ($40) was good. Has clit and nipple rings. This girl could be a model.
Eley. Vogue - My fav of the trip, repeated with her twice. A little older (27?) but great personality- 9 , and performance-9 looks -7 BBBJ CIM (50).
Paige. Velevt love- Cute, tried to please. Looks -7.5, personality - 7, performance- 7.
Sweet Kylie. Velvet love. Goth chick look with the dark hair and pale skin. Skinnier than pics, has a annoying giggle, but tries to please. DT BBBJ porn style, so much eye contact I had to look away. LOL She had bad breath the day she saw me and it was 5 or 6 pm after a day of shopping for her. For those who do DFK, good luck here.
Erika. Really sweet girl, has a little acne on the face, really tries to please. Likes to get off rubbing her clit during the session. Looks - 7.5, Performance 7.5 personality - 8.5 - she has the Micheal Jackson skin issue down there, its a bit discolored. Might be a turnoff for some.
I'm not sure if I should of disclosed such personal issues / details of the providers. Not sure if its breaking any unsaid rules. PM me if I am. I will edit. But, I'm just including info that I would like to know if I were booking one of them.
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08-11-18 16:10 #2781
Posts: 3056Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
Many other Montreal agencies have several ladies that are just as good or better than those big three agencies that seem to emphasize Branding. My favorite in Montreal was with Wildtime, but she isn't on the roster currently. And Mikes Mansion has some of the hottest ladies in town and also does Branding to an extent, but has a slightly greater variance between ladies in my opinion than the other three. You kind of have to treat the Unicorns as a statistical outlier, since not everyone is into fetish. If you are, they are the best.
At one time, that wasn't the case. I got a threesome once with the Montreal Satin Dreamz agency, and one lady Carmen was in the top 10 percent of providers I have ever seen, and the other lady was an abnormal acting beast. I had the beast leave halfway through the session to enjoy Carmen. I had originally booked Carmen and another highly rated lady, but the agency insisted on a last minute substitution. That is the kind of bullshit that probably scares the new guy asking questions, and makes some of us much more prone to only seeing highly reviewed ladies. And it is a good point about Branding.
I suppose the bad points are that it may be more likely to result in price increases as competition, or the perception of competition, declines as a few big players dominate the market. And it makes us less likely to try new things that we may like. The milfs, heavier girls, and Goths often go to more eclectic agencies or to agencies that have a lot more of them, and it is easy to forget about trying them if all the attention is focused on three agencies who don't tend to work with them. And of course the CBJ only ladies find it frustrating to work in a market, and with an agency, where BBBJ is expected.
But for the most part, I think the marketing concept of Branding is good. I often mention the story of two consecutive evening in Buenos Aires, where the same agency sent me a GFE girl who looked like Phoebe Cates while she acted in Fast Times at Ridgemont High. The next night (afternoon, actually), they said only one lady was available. She was the grossest, skankiest lady I have ever been with (I think she was non-GFE, but I insisted on that, anyway) and she actually stole the toilet paper from the room. I am not kidding.
In Barcelona, you can read the reviews of what I call the big commercial line-up brothels (in comparison to the small appointment-only brothels that I prefer), and find one guy who honestly said he had the best sexual experience at one of them one night, and the worst sexual experience at the same place the next night. The smaller places do more Branding, and you don't get that. The ladies at many smaller places are of similar age, looks, and do BBBJ as standard. One of the reasons that a lot of guys going to the big commercial line-up brothels in Barcelona seem to look for the new girls is that new ladies are less likely to try to upsell GFE service to tourists. This upselling totally ruins the review system, if the preference is for new ladies with no reviews. Once again, most customers on the local Barcelona review board are expressing a preference for two active groups, Vecinitasbcn and teensbcn, who are doing the exact type of marketing Branding that I described with respect to the Montreal agencies I mentioned. When all the ladies are similar and have excellent reviews, there is confidence in choosing any of them.
When the marketing concept of Branding works it is very beneficial to customers who are looking for a certain prototype session. The key is for there to be enough competition and a lack of upselling. Right now it seems to be working extraordinarily well in Montreal.
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08-11-18 15:10 #2780
Posts: 2065Originally Posted by Xtc2018M [View Original Post]
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08-11-18 09:43 #2779
Posts: 310Originally Posted by Xtc2018M [View Original Post]
I'd say you'the have a pretty good chance of getting somebody pretty cute with any of the agencies.
The other thing, if you have time, is to befriend the bookers at the agencies and let you preferences be known. They will attempt to satisfy I bet.
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08-11-18 01:52 #2778
Posts: 3056Originally Posted by StrawMan83 [View Original Post]
I second the recommendation of April Rose of Mike's Mansion and Sonia and Hannah of the Unicorns particularly if you have a fetish you want to explore.
Someone in the thread was under the impression that Sonia is a Girl Next Door facially, but she shows a lot of her face on Twitter and I think she is very pretty. Of course I enjoy fetishes, so that likely makes her more attractive to me.
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08-10-18 22:34 #2777
Posts: 26Thanks for the help.
A simpler question, is it OK to show up at an incall session dressed clean but casually? Like shorts and running shoes.
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08-10-18 17:45 #2776
Posts: 2065Originally Posted by ChubzyMaximus [View Original Post]
I thought perhaps that because she's a squirter she never wanted that publicized. I could see some of these local guys showing up with an arsenal of toys and gadgets trying to turn Charlotte's body into a water park. What girl needs that kind of pressure? Perhaps some guys are turned-off by it.
This is where YMMV certainly comes into play. Some guys are offered anal, some are not. Some guys are DFKed intensely other get a bit of LFK. Some guys are squirted on, some are not.
You definitely see YMMV with some of the new girls. Some of the new girls never establish consistent service. Some of the girls respond to the feedback and turn it up a notch. The bombshell Heaven didn't have the reputation for solid performance awhile back pre-Euphoria.
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08-10-18 17:19 #2775
Posts: 2065Originally Posted by StrawMan83 [View Original Post]
Obviously, many other girls can probably dirty talk with the best of them. Your best bet is to ask the booker. I doubt this will be an unusual request by their standard.
Are those "the panties your mother laid out for you?
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08-10-18 13:00 #2774
Posts: 527Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]
Best Regards
Smuler
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08-10-18 08:17 #2773
Posts: 5841If one is to judge a destination by the forum on ISG then Montreal is kicking ass right now. Must schedule a visit and see how it compares to FKKs where I am right now.
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08-10-18 06:09 #2772
Posts: 2Thanks much! I was counting on them for my upcoming trip to Montreal. Glad I checked here on the forum. Got to look elsewhere.
Silly question: Which is the best agency for new-in-biz girls? I tend to go with girls who are starting fresh with no reviews and I generally have more luck in terms of getting what I like. Any suggestion?
Originally Posted by Mongerer88 [View Original Post]
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08-10-18 04:19 #2771
Posts: 26Originally Posted by StrawMan83 [View Original Post]
Oh well, its not the weirdest request on this board. If you have any insight PM me. Otherwise thanks for all the help.