Kyiv

[Sabayonne]

The problem is that Kiev escort club doesn't have face pics and that the girls looks like 7-8's.

I am looking for girls in the class of lvov24 and are willing to pay for it. Too bad that site smells like scam.

No true premium resources in Kiev? I know the girls are there.

Thanks for sharing such valuable information. Looo, who the heck would pay 200+ $ for one hour!? Would there be such freaky guy out there'?

[Michi T]

http://kievescort.club/escorts

As good as you will find.

Thanks for sharing such valuable information. Looo, who the heck would pay 200+ $ for one hour!? Would there be such freaky guy out there'?

[Michi T]

GFE and sponsoring are two different things. GFE usually means services without condoms and DFK. Sponsoring is a supportive relationship.

Oje, thank you for informing me. Sex without condome with a w h o are e? No, thanks. Too risky. Lots of illnesses.

[Riina]

Does anyone know of a local service or person that can arrange premium verified girls?

http://kievescort.club/escorts

As good as you will find.

[Sabayonne]

Does anyone know of a local service or person that can arrange premium verified girls?

[Riina]

My experience as well. Most (if not all) girls in dating platforms (e. G. Tinder, Badoo, Mamba) do GFE for sex. This is called sponsoring.

Do you have some data points to share? I am in particular interested in age and price.

GFE and sponsoring are two different things. GFE usually means services without condoms and DFK. Sponsoring is a supportive relationship.

[Michi T]

When in Kiev last week foe 4 days met. Several girls all from tinder, all ages, all reasonable for money, it just takes few conversations back and forth to get them to join you, very GFE.

Good luck.

My experience as well. Most (if not all) girls in dating platforms (e. G. Tinder, Badoo, Mamba) do GFE for sex. This is called sponsoring.

Do you have some data points to share? I am in particular interested in age and price.

[IndusMint]

When in Kiev last week foe 4 days met. Several girls all from tinder, all ages, all reasonable for money, it just takes few conversations back and forth to get them to join you, very GFE.

Good luck.

[PhotoSlider]

Loool, when I hear such things then I know why I stoped meeting paid / agency girls long ago. All is just a big lie. Finding a "correct" ***** is like playing lottery. Same in Poland. Advertisements are nothing but fairy tales.

He-he-he. Within 24 hours after my customer complaint here, KEC-GIA updated listed services and now 7 girls do Greek+DP (with one customer, therefore DP with a toy) and 3 girls do Group+Greek+DP. FWIW.

Forum rules!

[Michi T]

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And that new fake "DP" a la KEC style in our regular daily monger life was always called "helicopter", not a DP. Lie is a lie is a lie.

Now Vlada mentioned above starts at $350 for 2 hours minimum. Rough estimates for that fake DP gives $700+ for 2 hours. Payment to the girl is upfront. Chances of getting refund by two gentlemen with their pants already down, that just discovered that they've been fucked by KEC management, are very low. Welcome to the wonderful world of mongering!

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Loool, when I hear such things then I know why I stoped meeting paid / agency girls long ago. All is just a big lie. Finding a "correct" ***** is like playing lottery. Same in Poland. Advertisements are nothing but fairy tales.

[PhotoSlider]

I met last time a 19 year old student girl in front of McDonalds. Gave her 1'000 UAH for a nice fuck with good GF sex. Next week, I will meet her again, she will stay with me for ten day and I agreed to give her 300 $ for that. I think this is a fair deal.

Then I also know a 24 year old single mom ...snip... and she is smoking hot! Amazing tits and ass and also feet and face. She wants 200 $ for a Friday evening until Monday morning.

Unsurpassed Champion!

I am drooling.

[Michi T]

Wow. $150 for an hour with a mother of a young child with a baby damaged body? I've been away too long. If this is true, I'll stay away too!

Is this the standard price? Hmmm.

I met last time a 19 year old student girl in front of McDonalds. Gave her 1'000 UAH for a nice fuck with good GF sex. Next week, I will meet her again, she will stay with me for ten day and I agreed to give her 300 $ for that. I think this is a fair deal.

Then I also know a 24 year old single mom, not sure about her job, she is engaged with a unknowing, silly westerner, and she is smoking hot! Amazing tits and ass and also feet and face. She wants 200 $ for a Friday evening until Monday morning.

Both girls no risk because I know them from last time.

[PhotoSlider]

Which goes to show it was a very good idea that you posted the links to the 2 Russian students in Chicago with prices and reviews on the Sister site. GIa and Management of well known clubs read this forum and they should realize that experienced Well travelled mongers aren't really overwhelmed by the beauty of the Kiev escort scene at present and at such Inflated prices. One such example a Mom who smokes listing her age 33 . http://kievescort.club/girl/valeria4.

Riina did absolutely the right thing. Going to Kiev from a different country with a sole purpose of getting laid is a pricey undertaking, especially if the visit is short, there are no contacts from prior adventures, and a hopeful punter doesn't speak local language.

Cross-referencing world-wide sources of information on comparable commodities without excessive emotions is the best way to establish the truth in a constantly changing global environment.

With regards to Valeria, IMO the biggest concern is her work ethics. She is not alone in that respect, the same is true for about 10-20% of GIA workforce. There were girls leaving customers before the paid time was over, refusing to kiss while it "kissing with tongue" was listed, and placing the usual artificial blame on the customer hygiene, which is a total bullshit, as few hours earlier equally valuable high class provider did prolonged DFK NP.

Another trick: KEC-GIA lists DP, when in reality none of the girls do greek plus vaginal with two partners at the same time. Before the bust GIA "creative" interpretation for DP was "single partner with a toy". Not that I am that much of a connoisseur, but WTF?

Newly reincarnated KEC went even further in deception, for two girls (Inna and Vlada) they list a DP service while there is no anal. Do search and see for yourself (unless management fixes it, how they did for Martina). This particular flavor of so-called "DP" is a fruit of management's inflamed imagination where a girl that does (1) "group" (+50%) and (2) a fake "double penetration" substitute where 2nd partner goes for BJ (200 USD). BJ is actually included free for all the girls. With or without cover. I guess Greed is one of Seven Deadly Sins.

And that new fake "DP" a la KEC style in our regular daily monger life was always called "helicopter", not a DP. Lie is a lie is a lie.

Now Vlada mentioned above starts at $350 for 2 hours minimum. Rough estimates for that fake DP gives $700+ for 2 hours. Payment to the girl is upfront. Chances of getting refund by two gentlemen with their pants already down, that just discovered that they've been fucked by KEC management, are very low. Welcome to the wonderful world of mongering!

Is it any different in Shanghai, Dubai or LOS Angeles than in Kiev?

Valeria starts at 6000 UAH, currently highest rate at GIA, and even a single incident in the past of her showing up at the client door with clearly visible hangover shows considerable lack of self discipline. This cannot be compensated by extensive list of services. Life of single mom in Kiev is hard, and after 10-15 years in business it gets long in the teeth, but do we customers care? We want more of those fresh green-eyed Milenas and energetic Katias.

At the moment KEC-GIA has a miserable 500 UAH only for the first hour discount of Ksyusha or Mila, which is nothing regardless of duration, - one hour quickie or 10 hours extended stay. I see two explanations for yet another example of unjustified greed:

1. KEC-GIA has enough customers because they were down for 2. 5 months and filthy rich oil magnates are hungry for supposedly high class Ukrainian pussy.

2. KEC-GIA is eager to recover losses.

Two years ago UAH prices and their equivalent in USD were significantly lower than today. Hike in exchange rate doesn't matter.

The approach is "Squeeze them customers dry! Different mongers will come anyway. GIA, apartment salons, online or anything else. Free market rules.

My impression it works both ways, and when business partner becomes too greedy while not watching quality and price of the service offering, customers find other opportunities. Globally like Riina, or even locally in such a large and diverse city as Kiev.

[PhotoSlider]

Question: Can someone please suggest a few good adult massage places for a tired traveler downtown Kiev? Looking for fresh current info.

Roxolana next to Bessarabsky Market was good, but it transformed into a hair-cut Spa few years ago.

Close to Maidan there was De Fleur or something, with both sensual and BDSM. Also went down. Called VIP now.

Had good luck more than 3 times at Relax next to Premier-Palace and University, despite their attempts to up sell extras.

Google thinks Royal next to Maidan is the best. 2000 UAH for 1 hour massage is a little too steep, one could get FS for that, but sometimes I have a headache and need a good erotic massage with a knowledgeable expert. The best part is not allowing them to do a hand job. Girls become so agitated and insist on doing it to completion!

Dolly next to Golden Gate didn't impress in 2016, supposedly improved since then. They offer 2 hour program for 1100 UAH. Anybody tried it? Or prefers some other establishment?

Would be much obliged.

[PhotoSlider]

Back in 2010 I went to a very good strip club on the other side of the Dnipro after reading a post about it here, was called Tixi Omut.

"Tihij Omut" is a part of famous proverb "V tihom omute cherti vodjatsja". English equivalent says "Still waters run deep", but closer translation would be "There are beasts and witches in a quiet whirlpool of river water".

To me flying my ass all the way to Kiev to fuck a stripper late at night at a cost of $300+, at least another 100 in the club defeats the whole object of going to Kiev, But of course each to their own.

Guilty, your honor! I recklessly hired long legged Albina at Mandarin in June 2014 the day of President Poroshenko inauguration. Didn't talk much at my apartment, but when she walked out of the shower and joined me, I lost all doubts and regrets. Very smooth performer. Saw her again two years later. No go. She didn't smarten up, but gained extra weight and cellulite. End of story.

Had another hottie from Rio in 2015. That one was in a certain way a highlight of my mongering career, but that story better be told in private over a glass of wine, if we ever meet. Perhaps a book or a movie script.

I doubt I'll feel the urge to do $300-500 any time soon. GIA is a better deal. Semi-pros and indies are much better deal, and not just because of money.