Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[EihTooms]

According to Wikipedia there were 'only' 450,000 infected in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...revalence_rate.

So in 2017 this has suddenly more than tripled? Something doesn't seem right. Or maybe the registration has been improved?

The way the numbers and percentages are featured in the PattayaOne report makes it seems to me they are trying to present them to ensure maximum alarm. Perhaps for a presumed greater good. But the breakdown for the vast majority of people having sex in Thailand, even P4P sex in Thailand, would likely be far less alarming than it reads here.

"Meanwhile, figures from the Aids, Tuberculosis and Sexually Transmitted Infections Control Division under the Health Department of the Bangkok Metropolitan Administration show that 80% of HIV infections in Bangkok are transmitted through sexual intercourse."

How are they defining "sexual intercourse" in this study? Is it as it appears in many dictionaries, "Sexual contact between individuals involving penetration", which could include anal intercourse and oral intercourse? Or is it as it appears in other dictionaries; intercourse for the purpose of procreation, which confines it to penile-vaginal sex? I am sure they have the breakdown for how many men likely acquired HIV as the result of penetrating a vagina vs their own anus being penetrated by another man's penis. And for how many co-factors existed such as not being circumcised or having an open sore on their penis during incidence of vaginal sex. Then why not publish them or give links to where you can read about it?

They don't even break it down between how many women acquired it "through sexual intercourse" vs how many men got it that way. But they could. And, BTW, how many cases of HIV infections showed up in Bangkok vs the rest of the country anyway? I mean, as long as they're citing that 80% figure for "sexual intercourse" transmission in Bangkok, why not tell us what that 80% figure is based on? Actually, one might conclude from this report that the vast majority of HIV transmissions they're talking about here were via needles and not through "sexual intercourse", but since they do have enough cases of it being transmitted sexually in Bangkok to be statistically significant, why not cite that 80% figure.

The vast majority of men having sex in Thailand as in the rest of the world would be vaginal intercourse with some oral genital contact accompanying it. Very rarely would receptive anal sex, taking it up their own butt, be on the menu for most men. I would guess that is true of almost every man reading these threads on this site. The more detailed studies for likely transmission show that it is very difficult and rare for a man to acquire HIV through vaginal intercourse and practically unheard of through oral sex, either giving or receiving. Yet we might read these kind of articles and our minds conjure up images of 16 dudes just like us being told by a nurse in some clinic in Bangkok and Pattaya each and every day of the year that they must have gotten HIV from going bareback with Noy or Nam a few months ago. Not hardly.

[Syzygies]

According to that article 2. 3% of Thais have aids or hiv. That is a pretty hard statistic to believe. It would be hard for, me to believe that big a percentage of working girls yet alone the whole population. Or am I misreading it?

1. 5 million has to be in the whole population. Most numbers are estimates.

Remember that numbers are people that have mostly had Aids for a long time. New reported cases drops, but people having it long time, are dying less quickly than before, so total numbers can increase. The ones with Aids are just not going away unless they die, as almost zero are reported to be cured.

Aids (new cases) was on decline for many years, so that means people for a while may have been getting slightly more careful. Bear in mind, that gays and drug users will be a high proportion of the total, but still plenty of unlucky girls whether hookers or not. Used to be many rural house wives got Aids from their husbands. Every village has kids where both parents died of Aids already. Girls doing BBFS with large numbers of customers or dates for many years are almost bound to catch it eventually. The luck has to run out.

Girls doing it only with regular tested guys with a recent negative certificate run a lot less risk.

Guys tend to go blissfully thinking it is hard to catch from a girl with normal sex practices, however some will be caught out. Better with a hooker who has a recent test certificate too.

Personally I don't go looking for BBFS with lots of new girls just met. Consider ways to reduce your odds, till is more likely you will be struck by lightning or killed in an accident. Aids is not the only risk. Some STDs are caught very easily.

[Mogwai]

I'm not a preacher of safe sex but this was an article from today.
Numbers higher than I thought. 16 new cases of reported aids per day. 1. 5 million reported infected. 15,000 reported deaths annually.
https://pattayaone.news/en/cases-aids-diagnosed/

According to Wikipedia there were 'only' 450,000 infected in 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...revalence_rate.

So in 2017 this has suddenly more than tripled? Something doesn't seem right. Or maybe the registration has been improved?

[Blanquiceleste]

I am not getting back to shit. It is obvious that you are just trolling.

Mr E, as I said before, you cannot wake up a guy pretending to be asleep.

[EihTooms]

I am not getting back to shit. It is obvious that you are just trolling.

Funny, from my experience, I kind of thought anyone who would claim, "I have never known a chick in Thailand to try to dodge it" (CIM) was trolling. Unless they only knew 2-3 very carefully selected chicks in Thailand well enough to have tried it, of course.

But anything is possible I suppose, no matter how improbable.

[Mr Enternational]

Well, you're talking about girls you already have a sexual relationship with, right? Not exactly the point of our previous discussion.

And you're also talking about what they're telling you they will do "next time", not what they actually will do.

Get back to us after you've actually tried it with each one and let us know how many dodged a shot or two just a teeny tiny bit at the moment of truth.

BTW, how many Thai girls are you talking about again? 3? 10? 100?

I am not getting back to shit. It is obvious that you are just trolling.

[EihTooms]

Jesus Christ. So you say it is not real life because you don't know what it feels like? I just asked various Thai chicks all of who I do not give money to and all 100% every single one said yes. In other words not 1 Thai free, non-pro Thai chick that I just asked said no when I asked if I can cum in their mouth next time. Again, I don't see what the big deal is. But do you now understand that not everything is so far fetched or unbelievable. Any disbelief after this and it should be assumed that you are just trolling.

Well, you're talking about girls you already have a sexual relationship with, right? Not exactly the point of our previous discussion.

And you're also talking about what they're telling you they will do "next time", not what they actually will do.

Get back to us after you've actually tried it with each one and let us know how many dodged a shot or two just a teeny tiny bit at the moment of truth.

BTW, how many Thai girls are you talking about again? 3? 10? 100?

[EihTooms]

The past two weeks when I was home in Pattaya I probably fucked 10 chicks and out of those 3 were P4P. Frankly I don't see what is so unbelievable about doing shit with women. They are not mythical beings. They are just people. The way you guys talk one would think someone was talking about having dinner with an alien.

I don't see anything hard to believe about that claim either. Seems to match mine fairly closely, except my number of non P4P might be typically higher by 1 these days. I suspect most sexually active guys would arrive at that number of different girls in a two week period in a farang area of Thailand unless they lived with a girl who kept close tabs on them.

And, truth be told, I have little doubt that if I tried your method I would achieve even more CIM endings than I do.

In fact, I'm sure if I said nothing about it, didn't "ask permission" and "held her down" at the point of penetration I would probably get a whole lot more BBFS than I do already, which isn't too bad a number as it is without doing it that way. Maybe my rate of success on that count would be as high as 100 out of 100. If I get past the first 12 without getting my ass thrown in a Thai prison, that is. Hehe.

[Mr Enternational]

Jesus Christ. So you say it is not real life because you don't know what it feels like? I just asked various Thai chicks all of who I do not give money to and all 100% every single one said yes. In other words not 1 Thai free, non-pro Thai chick that I just asked said no when I asked if I can cum in their mouth next time. Again, I don't see what the big deal is. But do you now understand that not everything is so far fetched or unbelievable. Any disbelief after this and it should be assumed that you are just trolling.

Crickets?

Ok. See, this is why we have to challenge at least some of these tall tale fantasy sex scenarios and bring them back down to earth. Not to kill anyone's buzz, but because it does no one, newbies, oldtimers, the business and market in general any good to let these "Can You Top This" fantasy scenarios go on and on and thereby promote the idea that you, MP, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio or, yes, even I can easily meet, say, 10 Thai girls, five pros and five non pros and, first time out and unplanned, every one of them will probably provide a CIM finish without even dodging a little bit (or you name the sex scenario) just like that. Five pros not working in BJ Bars, that is.

[Mr Enternational]

That is quite a statement, Mr. E.

May I ask out of how many different Thai women you have engaged in this never fail, never try to dodge CIM technique of yours so I can be even more astonished and amazed by your response?

Seiously man. You think I am out here counting women? Sure I did until I got to about 200. Now I am in the thousands. And you expect me to even single out counting Thai women over Brazilians, Colombians, Dominicans, Americans, and countless other nationalities that I have been with?

Once again your mileage may vary. Just because you can not do something does not mean it is a fantasy if someone else says they have done it. Hell, I can not do a backflip and I can not whistle or pop chewing gum, but that does not mean I believe that nobody else should be able to do it.

The other day there was a poster in the Dominican Republic thread asking how to approach women. I responded saying that I thought that would have been perfected in high school, but I guess not. Maybe he should have thought that since he was unskilled at it, then no other man on the planet could do it either.

The past two weeks when I was home in Pattaya I probably fucked 10 chicks and out of those 3 were P4P. Frankly I don't see what is so unbelievable about doing shit with women. They are not mythical beings. They are just people. The way you guys talk one would think someone was talking about having dinner with an alien.

[Horatio]

According to that article 2. 3% of Thais have aids or hiv. That is a pretty hard statistic to believe. It would be hard for, me to believe that big a percentage of working girls yet alone the whole population. Or am I misreading it?

I'm not a preacher of safe sex but this was an article from today.

Numbers higher than I thought. 16 new cases of reported aids per day. 1. 5 million reported infected. 15,000 reported deaths annually.

https://pattayaone.news/en/cases-aids-diagnosed/

[Banana Boi]

I'm not a preacher of safe sex but this was an article from today.

Numbers higher than I thought. 16 new cases of reported aids per day. 1. 5 million reported infected. 15,000 reported deaths annually.

https://pattayaone.news/en/cases-aids-diagnosed/

[EihTooms]

That is quite a statement, Mr. E.

May I ask out of how many different Thai women you have engaged in this never fail, never try to dodge CIM technique of yours so I can be even more astonished and amazed by your response?

Crickets?

Ok. See, this is why we have to challenge at least some of these tall tale fantasy sex scenarios and bring them back down to earth. Not to kill anyone's buzz, but because it does no one, newbies, oldtimers, the business and market in general any good to let these "Can You Top This" fantasy scenarios go on and on and thereby promote the idea that you, MP, Johnny Depp, Leonardo DiCaprio or, yes, even I can easily meet, say, 10 Thai girls, five pros and five non pros and, first time out and unplanned, every one of them will probably provide a CIM finish without even dodging a little bit (or you name the sex scenario) just like that. Five pros not working in BJ Bars, that is.

Some dudes read that stuff and they either think there is something drastically wrong with them for not getting such results so readily or they are so disappointed they dump the whole idea of ever returning to Thailand. Assuming they are choosing girls they actually want to have sex with and not pathetic souls who must either go along with anything and everything or starve in the next couple of hours. Maybe that is fine with some, but I do believe it is not good for any of us in the long run. What actually does happen in Thailand with Thai girls is already pretty darn good. No need to come up with those high flying, never fail, never try to dodge, she started giving me a deep throat and then swallowed all of it and begged for more before I got my shoes off kind of stuff.

And there's another factor to consider. If we don't challenge these things (not saying ALL of them are impossible, just that some are worthy of a challenge), then we have no right to turn our derision on posters who out of the blue ask goofy questions like, "Which go-go bar has beautiful girls who will do anything without hassle for very little money and what time do they usually show up?" LOL. Little wonder some posters, especially first time poster lurkers, think this must be the land of conveyor belt 100% True GFE do anything, get anything on demand P4P girls after they've read some of MP and others' fantasy scenarios. We have to go back and reinvent the wheel every time one of those questions comes up and don't realize how some of us are actually encouraging such thinking by posting those fantasy scenarios.

[EihTooms]

Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away.

Well, see that is where you and I definitely differ. I believe where my cum goes IS my business if she has agreed to make it go somewhere specific as a matter of OUR doing BUSINESS together. Not only in her mouth or down her throat and into her stomach, but in her pussy or up her butthole, in her ear or up her left nostril as well. I'm not going to say, hey, I "got my orgasm", who cares if at that moment she hopped off me, my dick came out of her pussy and I wound up jerking myself off just to get those last squirts out. Not if she and I both agreed that we would fuck bareback until my sperm / semen came into her pussy, I'm not. Will you?

No, there is no law requiring her to honor the BUSINESS deal we struck on that issue. She can hop off, pull away, run to the toilet to spit, do whatever her little heart desires when the time comes and I have nothing to say about it in that respect. Can't throw her in jail, won't be justified in beating her up or anything of the kind. But then I most certainly do reserve and will very likely exercise my right to deny paying her what I agreed to pay for wherever she previously agreed my cum would go.

And, believe it or not, not every woman thinks of sperm / semen as "garbage". At least many of my ladies have not. Unless they work hard to get actual street "garbage" up their snatch or into their mouths as many have even for no money at all with their partner's cum. I don't think of a woman's vaginal secretions as "garbage" and don't treat it as such when it lands in my mouth and slides down my throat when I purposely swallow it instead of spitting it out. Do you? Come on now, not every woman is so diametrically opposite to men in that regard.

[PedroMorales]

The only reason to pull it out, is if the girl does not want to cop the sperm. Only in porn does it need to be pulled out to see where the sperm goes, because they are making a video, and has to include as much degradation of the girl as possible to attract the extreme porn watchers. Where it goes is not an issue (in normal behaviour). Whether she wants to swallow or not is surely up to her. None of our business. We got our cum, hopefully without withdrawing but once the cum is out, what happens to it is of little concern. We got our orgasm already. We don't get to see where the garbage goes after the garbage has been taken away. The japanese woman at the condo was very upset that her garbage was in the garbage bins below and an old Thai women was sifting through that garbage to find what could be sold. Could easily find period blood or sperm in the trash, or bottles to sell. LOL In Thai culture they don't care. Only the Jap woman was so upset about it. Don't know why exactly (a cultural thing).

Like you I don't find that all Thai girls want to cop sperm directly in their pussy or mouth, and even less want to swallow. I never ask for a swallow as not my business (and seems a bit warped to me) but 90%+ spit it out (completely their right). Just like them, I don't want to drink it. Fortunately anal is not my thing, as very few girls are reporting to enjoy anal, and mainly only do it for guys who cum quick. So the odd girl said yes she does anal, but not for me. LOL I have been offered but I could count the number of times on one hand, and some of those offers were for extra payment.

I am sure a lot more girls would be into swallowing if there was a good money bonus. However I would never pay extra for it. Can't see any logical usefulness to it.

One girl was telling me about her freak customer that did want to drink the sperm. We both agreed he must be a bit psycho.

Because sperm is a high protein shake, women should really P4's (pay for swallow). Swal; lowing has the advantage of not staining the bed sheets. To imagine that CIM degrades and COH (cum on hair) or CON (cum on nose) does not only shows YMMV.

I doubt the Japanese woman bins her menstrual left overs. Most women flush such crap dowen the toilets and, along with wet wipes, they are a major source of plumbing problems. I do feel for the Japanese woman, not wanting the ferals to root around, rat like, in her discarded bags.

The increased demand for anal is, like the CIM, CON, COH things, a feature of today's virtual society where more mongers want the porno experience they previously jacked off to.