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  1. #30095
    Provenza is very near El Poblado and Parque Lleras. It's walking distance from Parque Lleras if you don't mind a few steep hills. You are likely asking about it because of lodging or restaurants. Use the search term "Provenza Medellin" in the map application of your choice (Here Maps, Google Maps, Bing maps etc.) to orient yourself.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkyJump  [View Original Post]
    Where is this Provenza area? Thanks.

  2. #30094

    Girls will / want to take you to the hotels they know.

    Girls usually have some kickback agreements with the hotels they use.

    Quote Originally Posted by Riina  [View Original Post]
    Suppose I'm trolling around Botero and I find a sweetie, where do I bring her? I like low end places to do the deed, but not too dirty.

  3. #30093

    Where is Provenza area?

    Quote Originally Posted by BayMonger  [View Original Post]
    Thank you for all for the tips. I booked a ticket to Medellin for Thanksgiving. Staying in Provenza for 11 nights (thank you for the tips on this area, seems much better than Lleras).

    I speak decent Spanish so I started to build my Facebook database. Did it way too early. Now I have 70+ chicas, all ready to see me. Maybe I shouldn't have said I was already there. Now I need to delay them until I come.

    It seems like yoga pants are not a thing in Colombia. Which blows my mind, considering how good these paisas would look in them. This is one Western thing that I hope makes its way to Colombia. Do any of you see girls wear them regularly like we see in the US?
    Where is this Provenza area? Thanks.

  4. #30092
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Best thing I've found going in Medellin is just walking about Botero, Veracruz, etc, daytime.

    Reconning for something sweet looking.
    Suppose I'm trolling around Botero and I find a sweetie, where do I bring her? I like low end places to do the deed, but not too dirty.

  5. #30091
    Quote Originally Posted by KilledSoul  [View Original Post]
    Every gringo who does not want to go to Centro or doesn't have skill to get FB contacts goes to Fase Dios. And combine that with Gringos comparing the Fase Dios prices to US prices and thinking its a good deal.
    I think most gringos pricing things in their local currency is practically unavoidable. To me, these are like trolls. It's simple; don't feed the trolls. You're not going to change a troll's behavior. By giving them information, you only encourage them to become greater trolls LOL.

    There is already an abundance of wholesale information available for people to make informed decisions about what they want to do and how much it cost.

    I think variety is great. There is something for everyone. I prefer that to places / options being cannibalized or oversaturated. Obviously, we don't all have to go to the same sources and do things the same way and pay the same prices. Be it a roach motel, luxury apartment with a jacuzzi, tattooed out crack head with a beer belly or student that could pass for a Victoria Secret model, everyone has different tastes.

    I've seen enough pussy paradises ruined to determine where my focus needs to be and it isn't on the ill-informed or the trolls. Good luck to all.

  6. #30090
    Quote Originally Posted by OldBelly69  [View Original Post]
    Has their on-site price increased as well? Last time I was there it was 190 k for one hour.
    Don't think so because I told one girl if you are worth just 190 k here, why do you think you are wort much more outside? She didn't have a good reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Haha, that's funny!

    Just like the girl ay Gustos told me the other night that they have to charge a minimum of $200 dollars! LOL.

    Then the next day she's texting me, saying Ok papi, 200 mil pesos will do, LOL.
    Yeah, just take the number and wait until they are desperate. Easy rule of attraction but thirsty gringos fail here.

    Quote Originally Posted by KilledSoul  [View Original Post]
    Every gringo who does not want to go to Centro or doesn't have skill to get FB contacts goes to Fase Dios. And combine that with Gringos comparing the Fase Dios prices to US prices and thinking its a good deal.
    I guess they are the same ones, that travel once every 2 years.

  7. #30089
    I was in Medellin in early April in a apartment with security. They required a cedula where it would be electronically scanned for authenticity. I am glad they do that. I had one girl forget her cedula and they refused to let her in. She should have known better. She came back later on with her cedula. No other IDs are accepted. As the front desk told me it is for my protection.

    The front desk told me I can have Venezulean visitors but they needed to have a cedula or a valid passport with entry stamps.



    Quote Originally Posted by FunLuvr  [View Original Post]
    Not necessarily. I knew a lady in Medellin who lost her cedula. She used her passport as her ID for more than a year. I suppose she thought it was not that important to apply for a replacement cedula.

  8. #30088
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson01  [View Original Post]
    Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

    Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.
    Has their on-site price increased as well? Last time I was there it was 190 k for one hour.

  9. #30087
    Quote Originally Posted by Balboa  [View Original Post]
    Best thing I've found going in Medellin is just walking about Botero, Veracruz, etc, daytime.

    Reconning for something sweet looking.

    I hit gold 2 days in a row!

    One 18 year old Vennie in Botero, another on the street with the Tavernas.

    And actually another cutie working as a waitress passed me her phone number as I was leaving, and said, escrbame!

    It's not that hard.

    Main tactic, approach nicely, be nice, speaking Spanish maybe not completely required, however, obviously helps immensely.

    Not like I'm special or anything, just nice, clean, friendly and I speak very good spanish.
    We roll the same. There's nothing like the Botero and Veracruz area for meeting nice girls. However I doubt a non-Spanish speaking person would be able to do what we do as you mentioned.

  10. #30086
    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson01  [View Original Post]
    Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Quality average is 7/10 , only 2 or 3 stunners. But damn man, have the prices been inflated since last year, 3 girls asked 800 K for the whole night. And one girls asked for 300, I thought she meant 300 k peso but she explained its US dollars hahahaha. I said thats a cute little trick. Obviously I'm never going to pay that shite but its interesting to hear what's on their mind. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

    Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.

    I avoided google translation and just spoke my terrible beginner Spanish. Perhaps if I spoke better spanish it wouldn't make any difference either because the girls are not here for that, they are here to scam clueless gringos.

    My cab driver told me that the reason you see the hottest girls mostly at gringo places is exactly because you pay a lot of money and we get them for free or over a hamburger. These are results of Medellin being overexposed.
    Why didn't you just session with them on site for 190 k, get their WhatsApp and set up something when they aren't working?

    They are on stage for 2 or 3 songs. They come off and make 100-200 k in tips, plus more if they can get a guy to buy drinks and tip them extra. They can make 300-500 k in the club without fucking anyone. Even more if they do a few sessions. And most of the money is coming from Colombians.

    That's what you're competing against. If she leaves the club with you, she has to pay the bar, plus she loses what she would have made. The one offering 400 k must have really liked you, or she was tired.

  11. #30085
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    I'm confused about the demand for Venezuelans. Last I checked, they have all the same body parts as Colombians and they fuck the same. Maybe people are hoping to save some money, but when street prices in El Centro are already at 30 k, any savings is going to be minimal.

    Then there's the comparison. I've walked those streets many times. There are always plenty of old, fat and ugly Colombians to be found. Heck, if she's still around, there's the toothless, one-legged woman who is always hopping around Veracruz. Sure you can find a few who are gems, although after 4 trips through you might have lowered your standards.

    It really isn't a surprise that the lower quality Venezuelans have found their way to Botero Plaza. It's right next to the area where all the lower quality Colombians can be found. If you were a 8 or 9 girl, needing to make money, would you go where you can only hope to get 30 k or less each session, or would you go where you can get 150-250 k?
    So where do you find all of the higher quality Venezuelans then. Do they work in the higher end clubs, casa's, or on Facebook.

    And what about the toothless one legged woman around the Veracruz Church. I have been here for several months now and haven't run into her. Maybe she went into retirement?

  12. #30084
    Quote Originally Posted by SallySally  [View Original Post]
    ...One girl I met in a casa told me that there was a price lock in parque lleras because there is a person / group that runs this zone and the girls that work there all need to pay a fee to this person / group in order work there. She said if the fee wasn't paid there would probably be some type of extorsion / racketeering done to the said streetwalker ...
    Haha, that's funny!

    Just like the girl ay Gustos told me the other night that they have to charge a minimum of $200 dollars! LOL.

    Then the next day she's texting me, saying Ok papi, 200 mil pesos will do, LOL.

    Best thing I've found going in Medellin is just walking about Botero, Veracruz, etc, daytime.

    Reconning for something sweet looking.

    I hit gold 2 days in a row!

    One 18 year old Vennie in Botero, another on the street with the Tavernas.

    And actually another cutie working as a waitress passed me her phone number as I was leaving, and said, escríbame!

    It's not that hard.

    Main tactic, approach nicely, be nice, speaking Spanish maybe not completely required, however, obviously helps immensely.

    Not like I'm special or anything, just nice, clean, friendly and I speak very good spanish.

    Just as many fat and ugly Colombianas, as Venenozolanas.

    Very easy to ignore and pass by.

    Don't understand the big deal post concerning them.

  13. #30083

    One and only party place

    Every gringo who does not want to go to Centro or doesn't have skill to get FB contacts goes to Fase Dios. And combine that with Gringos comparing the Fase Dios prices to US prices and thinking its a good deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayson01  [View Original Post]
    Just been in Fase dos the last days and talked to various girls. Quality average is 7/10 , only 2 or 3 stunners. But damn man, have the prices been inflated since last year, 3 girls asked 800 K for the whole night. And one girls asked for 300, I thought she meant 300 k peso but she explained its US dollars hahahaha. I said thats a cute little trick. Obviously I'm never going to pay that shite but its interesting to hear what's on their mind. Another girl with 10 body, which all the men were drooling over wanted 400 k for an hour and 600-800 for toda la noche LOL again. Some were willing to go down 600 k but that's about it.

    Gringos must have really thrown around money here because otherwise I wouldn't hear this shite.

  14. #30082

    Security Feature

    Quote Originally Posted by CharmCityDave  [View Original Post]
    I consider the door woman a feature not a bug. She will keep you out of the Colombian penal system preventing young girls with fake Cedulas from entering. I always treat her with respect and even tip her on occasion.....
    I also view them as a security feature. Less chances of being mugged once WG knows her official ID is recorded. Other than Cuba, wonder why would someone not want a doorman in LatAm?

  15. #30081
    Quote Originally Posted by JjBee62  [View Original Post]
    ...The girls all know that they need their cedula. If they have a passport, and are over 18, they have a cedula. Why would anyone carry their passport instead of their cedula, or other government ID, in their own country?...
    Not necessarily. I knew a lady in Medellin who lost her cedula. She used her passport as her ID for more than a year. I suppose she thought it was not that important to apply for a replacement cedula.

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