Medellin Reports

[Knowledge]

Private security have had an exemption from curfew and quarantine rules since the very beginning of the pandemic in Colombia. They have the same free transit status as police, military and health care workers. It would otherwise be a burglar's field day.

So this next week will determine how worthwhile it is to visit Colombia for the coming month or two.

Three weekends ago when the weekend lockdowns were from 5 PM until 5 AM versus the entire weekend I was speaking with one of the Porteros in the building I live in that work from 6 AM to 6 PM and I asked him what happens if he gets stopped by the Police when leaving work and it's after the curfew time of 5 PM which was in effect then. He said not a problem, he shows them his work badge and explains the shift hours, and no problem. So I suspect some of the people walking around may have a legitimate excuse for being out after curfew. And there might also be some out who have "bribed" the Police, meaning giving them some money, but I really don't know as my limited experience during the past five years with the Police is that they have been very professional.

[JjBee62]

Hi,

What would this group recommend as a fair offer for SA girls for either a) the evening for a few hours including dinner, drinks, and the rest of the evening back at the apartment or b) the same as (a) but also spend the night?

An SA girl just asked for the equivalent to 400 USD for the overnight option. Just starting to have these discussions and will learn the market in Colombia but perhaps this group has thoughts as well.

Sidenote: this is my second post and received a super helpful response on my first post which was much appreciated. Booked a nice private apartment with outdoor jacuzzi in walking distance to everything near Parque Lleras. Landing for my first time in Medellin on the 25th. Look forward to sharing a trip report afterwards.

I would recommend not even thinking about having a girl for the overnight option until you've had at least one session with her.

For $400 she better be staying for at least 3 or 4 days. That's about 90 days of salary for a minimum wage worker in Colombia. Or that's 1 month rental of a nice 2 bedroom, 2 bath apartment (unfurnished) in Poblado. Or it's dinner and drinks for you and 10 friends at one of the more expensive restaurants in Medellin. Or it's 4 round trip air tickets to the Colombian city of your choice. Or, if you eat cheaply, it's enough to buy you 3 meals a day for at least a month.

Do you have a better grasp of the economics now?

As for what to pay, you're looking at it wrong. You shouldn't be paying anything for her to have dinner and drinks with you. You're buying the food and the drinks, and probably paying for her taxi. What you're paying for is for her to come to your place and bust your nut after she's had the free food and drink.

Personally, I would never agree to more than 300 mil (and I've never agreed to more than 200 mil), but she would have to be spectacular at that price. Assuming she's that spectacular, and her performance lives up to her looks, I might go as high as 500 k for overnight.

But that's just me. I can find all the girls I want for 200 k or less.

[Nounce]

Jbg64 and Savepros321, thank you, this is very helpful. I'm mostly interested in how liberal and relaxed the women are outside of the US and a fair exchange and even more compelling, the sheer abundance of attractive women. So yeah, I'd pay whatever locally but I can only maybe find a couple of attractive providers in Colorado for any given month. Setting aside two weeks and this still not being enough time to visit with all of the available and available women is a dream.

Discuss overnight after meeting the girl, not before.

[Surfer500]

That is a true boner-killer.

Also, even though they have been doing lockdowns since the beginning of the month, the total ICU rate just continues to climb higher (now at just over 97%: https://dssa.gov.co/index.php?option...127&Itemid=352).

So nothing they have been doing there has been working. They are going to have to go back to total quarantine if they expect to get that number back below 80% even. Which is interesting because almost a year ago around this time they were lifting the quarantine.

Unfortunately we are in unchartered territory as to what might really work. The new strain taking hold has been wrecking havoc in Brazil, is trampling Uruguay, and Chile and Argentina aren't doing well either. It's so depressing what's happening as up until three weeks ago it was like pre-pandemic times, even better, and now it's like a sinking ship, and what is really heartbreaking is the toll it's taking on the Colombians.

[Surfer500]

Police pickup truck with 4 people caught in the back. Big canopy covered truck had around 10 people caught by police. I saw them grab 3 people but no idea how they are picking the lucky ones. While others just walk around not bothered. Still some girls out and available. I took 2 repeats I saw wandering around today. No two girls tomorrow. Nearly had a heart attack.

Three weekends ago when the weekend lockdowns were from 5 PM until 5 AM versus the entire weekend I was speaking with one of the Porteros in the building I live in that work from 6 AM to 6 PM and I asked him what happens if he gets stopped by the Police when leaving work and it's after the curfew time of 5 PM which was in effect then. He said not a problem, he shows them his work badge and explains the shift hours, and no problem. So I suspect some of the people walking around may have a legitimate excuse for being out after curfew. And there might also be some out who have "bribed" the Police, meaning giving them some money, but I really don't know as my limited experience during the past five years with the Police is that they have been very professional.

[Mr Enternational]

Today ber prices are almost triple the usual fare. Normal fare to pick up my girl around 8000, uber wanting 22000 due to high demand although this fluctuates every 10-15 mins or so. I prefer uber as card payments are easier and I am having issues with didi.

Uber was uber-expensive in Bogota last weekend as well. Cabify/Easy Taxi had normal prices and you can use your card.

[Kafka]

With 6 million people they've got about a thousand in the ICU hospital for covid. Louisiana has 4 and a half million people and we maxed out at about 1,300 in the hospital a few months ago, and are now down to about 320. All without a total lockdown. We've got about a million people vaccinated.

That is a true boner-killer.

Also, even though they have been doing lockdowns since the beginning of the month, the total ICU rate just continues to climb higher (now at just over 97%: https://dssa.gov.co/index.php?option...127&Itemid=352).

So nothing they have been doing there has been working. They are going to have to go back to total quarantine if they expect to get that number back below 80% even. Which is interesting because almost a year ago around this time they were lifting the quarantine.

[Paulie97]

However, if the gringo is just going about his business, the same as every other person in the area, he attracts little extra attention.

He attracts plenty of extra attention as compared to the locals by the mere fact that he's a gringo, who in their minds is more likely to have a fair amount of cash and a nice phone, and is less likely to put up a fight. We can inject anecdotes, like "well I've never had any problems" or what not, but at the end of the day the bad guys know who we are so be watchful and take precautions. Moseying around like the locals isn't enough.

P.S. Dangers increase with increased desperation and these are especially desperate times.

[LoveItHere69]

Police pickup truck with 4 people caught in the back. Big canopy covered truck had around 10 people caught by police. I saw them grab 3 people but no idea how they are picking the lucky ones. While others just walk around not bothered. Still some girls out and available. I took 2 repeats I saw wandering around today. No two girls tomorrow. Nearly had a heart attack.

[SavePros321]

Also when I sent an uber for my regular today I got a message from him asking if she had permission to move as there were a lot of police controls and stops. So this along with recent reports from Tall Man and it seems like its getting tougher to move either yourself or girls around at the moment during these shutdowns.

That is a true boner-killer.

Also, even though they have been doing lockdowns since the beginning of the month, the total ICU rate just continues to climb higher (now at just over 97%: https://dssa.gov.co/index.php?option...127&Itemid=352).

So nothing they have been doing there has been working. They are going to have to go back to total quarantine if they expect to get that number back below 80% even. Which is interesting because almost a year ago around this time they were lifting the quarantine.

[AsianKarma]

I am in Mde now and using SA, seems some want $150 usd and I laugh and most will take 200 mil or 250 mil I have not had a over night chica so can't say on that. I found a couple FB chicas that were happy with 150 plus taxi. So it really depends on the chica. Last night I gave 250mil to a 21 yo student who looked AWESOME in the photos but without makeup was just average. She did let me do everything bareback.

I also found another 19 yo student who I paid 300 mil for 2. 5 hrs and she did everything bareback too, but had to meet her in Gurane and pay for a hotel, so not as inexpensive as I hope but it was worth it to me. Will see her the night before I leave, since Gurane is only 20 min from the Rio Negro airport.

Jbg64 and Savepros321, thank you, this is very helpful. I'm mostly interested in how liberal and relaxed the women are outside of the US and a fair exchange and even more compelling, the sheer abundance of attractive women. So yeah, I'd pay whatever locally but I can only maybe find a couple of attractive providers in Colorado for any given month. Setting aside two weeks and this still not being enough time to visit with all of the available and available women is a dream.

[Silver Turtle]

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[Jbj64]

I am in Mde now and using SA, seems some want $150 usd and I laugh and most will take 200 mil or 250 mil I have not had a over night chica so can't say on that. I found a couple FB chicas that were happy with 150 plus taxi. So it really depends on the chica. Last night I gave 250mil to a 21 yo student who looked AWESOME in the photos but without makeup was just average. She did let me do everything bareback.

I also found another 19 yo student who I paid 300 mil for 2. 5 hrs and she did everything bareback too, but had to meet her in Gurane and pay for a hotel, so not as inexpensive as I hope but it was worth it to me. Will see her the night before I leave, since Gurane is only 20 min from the Rio Negro airport.

SA is an economy unto itself. A "fair offer" is going to be whatever that particular chica is asking for.

You said an SA girl just asked you for the equivalent of 400 USD. Do you really think she is going to go for your counter offer of 120 k-150 k COP (which is pretty standard outside of the SA economy)?

You also have to ask yourself what do you gain flying thousands of miles to pay a gringo tax of 400 USD to some chica the locals probably have for 80 k?

[Knowledge]

These are facts.

SA is an economy unto itself. A "fair offer" is going to be whatever that particular chica is asking for.

You said an SA girl just asked you for the equivalent of 400 USD. Do you really think she is going to go for your counter offer of 120 k-150 k COP (which is pretty standard outside of the SA economy)?

You also have to ask yourself what do you gain flying thousands of miles to pay a gringo tax of 400 USD to some chica the locals probably have for 80 k?

[SavePros321]

Hi,

What would this group recommend as a fair offer for SA girls for either a) the evening for a few hours including dinner, drinks, and the rest of the evening back at the apartment or b) the same as (a) but also spend the night?

An SA girl just asked for the equivalent to 400 USD for the overnight option. Just starting to have these discussions and will learn the market in Colombia but perhaps this group has thoughts as well.

SA is an economy unto itself. A "fair offer" is going to be whatever that particular chica is asking for.

You said an SA girl just asked you for the equivalent of 400 USD. Do you really think she is going to go for your counter offer of 120 k-150 k COP (which is pretty standard outside of the SA economy)?

You also have to ask yourself what do you gain flying thousands of miles to pay a gringo tax of 400 USD to some chica the locals probably have for 80 k?