Rio de Janeiro Reports

**The Cane** · 05-30-21 23:12

Originally Posted by Vagabundo1 [View Original Post]

The two questions to ask are:

1. Are you getting it bare?

2. Are you on her social media?

If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo.

If you're writing about Brazil and you haven't even been here, what's the point?

If the extent of your experience is ordering freelancers like Elisa Sanches or going to termas in Copa, then your perspective is so limited your input is of limited value at best.

First of all, you assume that getting it bare is always a good thing that all mongers should seek or want. The truth is that many guys choose to play it safe versus playing Russian roulette with their health by fucking multiple prostitutes bare. Plenty of women (including prostitutes too) actually do respect men who show that they care about safe sex practices that protect both themselves and women. Second, I find it interesting that you continue to heap praise upon Bubba Boy while consistently trashing the termas as well. The truth is that a huge focus of his was on the termas, and he spent a lot of time in them. You know, everybody's situation isn't like yours. They have different tastes, a different budget, and a different amount of time to monger. If we were all basically living in Brazil like you are, then yes that would call for doing things differently. A lot differently. But most of us aren't living there and therefore need (and even want) to roll differently. Your constant put downs of people with other tastes, desires, and views really does not contribute much here, and definitely isn't within the spirit of what this place is all about. More live and let live would be far more productive.

**Member #4729** · 05-30-21 22:43

Originally Posted by HarvestBoi [View Original Post]

Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour".

This is an idea I've discussed with my father (an actual economist) and is actually a fairly serious proposition. After all, famed economist Steven Levitt writes about the Economics of Drug Dealing in the best seller "Freakonomics", and I see no reason why the measure would be any less valid than the widely used "Big Mac" Index and worthy of deep study.

https://www.economist.com/big-mac-index

One esteemed poster noted here a while back that the efflorescence of prostitution seems to occur most robustly in emerging middle-income countries in which there is still a large income inequality and where wage labor remains depressed. Thailand, Brazil, Russia would be great examples. Consider that although working girl hours remain the cheapest in low income countries like Cambodia, Philippines, and Cambodia, but there is lack of a critical infrastructure around it on the scale of aforementioned locations and the industry has not flourished. Germany and the FKK scene seems to elide this rule, but perhaps could more represent the logic of a migratory labor force from the Balkans similar to the German phenomenon of the "Polish Plumber".

First chance I get I'm going right back to Angeles City / Subic where you can get 30-40 $ BBFS with a LBFM 7 nights a week. For my money, that's the best values out there even if the whole city is a sh*t hole. I mean, priorities.

**Vagabundo1** · 05-30-21 22:38

That's just the big Mac index from the economist.com or purchasing power parity.

Look if you haven't even been in Brazil you probably have no cred writing about it.

Originally Posted by HarvestBoi [View Original Post]

Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour". Sadly I tossed it years ago or I'the give you the link.

**HarvestBoi** · 05-30-21 22:23

Don't laugh. Years ago a friend showed me a paper in a serious economics journal, that quantified currency exchange rates and strength of domestic economy in terms of prostitution prices or as he put it "the international working girl hour". Sadly I tossed it years ago or I'the give you the link.

Originally Posted by PahllusMaximus [View Original Post]

IMHO, the Real seems undervalued. With a rate of R100=USD 18.50 (roughly 5. 5), <$US60 for an hour or more of pleasure is a good deal. Many are under <$USD25 an hour. Is there price of pussy (POP INDEX) (snicker) ?

**Vagabundo1** · 05-30-21 21:56

The two questions to ask are:

1. Are you getting it bare?

2. Are you on her social media?

If not, you probably don't have her respect, and you may as well be a dildo.

If you're writing about Brazil and you haven't even been here, what's the point?

If the extent of your experience is ordering freelancers like Elisa Sanches or going to termas in Copa, then your perspective is so limited your input is of limited value at best.

**Pahllus Maximus** · 05-30-21 21:34

Yep, multi-factorial market pricing with all the usual arbitrage and fools in the game, men and women. I enjoy your posts.

For this group, those not not selling labour, smart investments and living in pleasant lands arbitraging currency, tax laws, exploiting the cost of living and price and ready availability of beautiful and nubile young women is entirely rational, especially with effectively free video communication and dirt cheap airlines to have the best of all worlds. COVID has wreaked havoc on that, and is why it is so traumatic. It has effectively forced the sale of high structural cost societies, a sort of put option by closed borders.

IMHO, the Real seems undervalued. With a rate of R100=USD 18.50 (roughly 5. 5), <$US60 for an hour or more of pleasure is a good deal. Many are under <$USD25 an hour. Is there price of pussy (POP INDEX) (snicker) ?

**Vagabundo1** · 05-30-21 20:53

At least you're here.

According to your reports, you're still getting it all covered. And they're not letting you on their social media.

My issue is with prepandemic pictures which have nothing to do with what is currently out there. The pictures I post are from this year, if not this month.

The metro stop in barra has changed things in several ways. It's easier for talent to get to barra.

Transamerica is not the only spot, but it is good for the barravipsrio girls, as most are here at some point or another, usually at the start of their careers which is good.

As I've said, ksportal offers luxury apartments near metro jardim oceanico.

My issue is also with ISG members who ask me to go out to termas with them when they are paying 1000 for pernoite for a girl who leaves at 02 h, as I mentioned. Then the staff at 4 x4 come up to me and say, "oh don't you remember your friend who paid 1000 reais to take the girl out pernoite" which really is the locals saying "you are a idiot gringo, why don't you do the same stupid thing". It's not just me. It is a more or less direct quote from Bubba Boy, who literally wrote the 2 part, 100 page guide to Rio. All of which is still valid, except for some things like which venues are open, all of which can be updated by looking at gparena.net.

Originally Posted by ZebraStripes81 [View Original Post]

Seems like lately on this board and the Medellin forum there has been a lot of chatter (much of it sour) about prices.

**Vagabundo1** · 05-30-21 20:43

That says it all.

You haven't been to Rio or Brazil.

Good luck, lad.

Originally Posted by TheDerilious [View Original Post]

On all of my mongering trips (first time in Brazil upcoming)

**Spidy** · 05-30-21 20:04

Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]

For Vagabundo. I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.

Okay, yah lost me on the connection to Vagabundo. Most of the pics from Vagabundo are IMHO, pretty Brasileiras with terrific bronzed bodies.

Originally Posted by Vagabundo1 [View Original Post]

Not my type. Bundinha. Not bundao.

I didn't think so either.

Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]

I have observed in many threads in ISG of guys getting offended if a poster has a different view from them. I prefer brancas to negras, why should a poster be offended because of that?

Okay, I get it now...this is one of your brancas with a super hot bronze tan. Wow, she's pretty hot! Carry on!

**Member #4729** · 05-30-21 19:24

Originally Posted by TheDerilious [View Original Post]

Do any of us actually think these women actually say to themselves, "This ugly gringo is painfully pounding the hell out of me, but I sure do respect the fact that he haggled with me over 50 real?" Be realistic, respect is earned through action. If you want to haggle for the lowest price, go wild. If you want to pay a little more to get better service or because you don't want to haggle, then do it. Be smart and don't overpay, but don't listen to other mongers who get mad about the fact that they can't lowball WGs because others have ruined the market. Imagine a guy calling out other men for their successful careers and wealth. We used to have a name for those people in life; losers.

This was hilarious to read, thanks. Seems like IG boards spend way too much time on this subject, and people get into too many arguments about it. WYGD?

**Vagabundo1** · 05-30-21 17:42

Not my type.

Bundinha.

Not bundao.

Didn't even click on the small version.

Originally Posted by Turgid [View Original Post]

I took this photo on Copacabana beach way back in 2007 most likely a day after a night at Help. Enjoy.

**The Cane** · 05-30-21 17:36

Originally Posted by RioBob [View Original Post]

I had a Barra vip girl come over yesterday afternoon, she was from Curitiba, German and Polish blood. She was a natural blonde absolutely beautiful and stunning and one of the finest GDP's I've ever seen, worth every real, I might even call her today again. There's plenty of girls in Rio that will go for your prices but not fresh quality like this. Locals pay the same price for these girls and make up most of their business. Ive had 2 from this site this trip all excellent gfe, actually this girl yesterday after we were finished she kept hanging out, what a sweetheart. Plus I paid at the end.

This is all definitely more in line with my experience with Rio Sex Site as well. I met a gorgeous natural blonde in Sampa from Curitiba too by the way with deep blue eyes. These girls do move around. Wonder if we may have enjoyed the same one?

**Bearsi** · 05-30-21 17:18

I'm coming down in September with a friend who has never been to Brazil (only Colombia) We'll be staying 1 week in SP and 1 week in RJ. I heard it gets a bit cold in RJ around that time compared to when I went in January. Any other things I should know about September so I can prepare? We'll be getting a villa or something like that (any recommendations for some hidden gems? Greatly appreciated) in Copa or Ipanema (barra I liked the many options for cheap luxury condos / villas but the travel from the beach / termas girls is a huge miss for me, I like to step out and feel the sun and sand without planning a whole routine and terma girls are always down to fuck after their shift if they struck out that night and it's a pain to wait 30+ minutes for them to get to barra, prive girls are ok but not very GFE and are pretty mechanical to me IMO).

Can't wait to get back to Rio to see my terma girls who have been messaging me since I left in January! A much needed gateway to paradise!

**Bearsi** · 05-30-21 16:53

Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1 [View Original Post]

Just messaged a few barravips girls that I liked to see what the rates are. All of them quoted 500 R / HR for incall, and 600-700 R + uber for outcall, like they are in a fucking union. And anywhere from 2000 R to 5000 R pernoite. I stood firm on my price (500 R pernoite, which I consider a great offer) and all of them wouldn't budge. One of them literally said 'go fuck yourself if you can't afford it")))) No way I'm paying a gringo price. I guess they are not that desperate and have enough clients who pay that much. Who are these suckers? Weekend warriors? I bet locals pay a fraction of what they quote. I'm not that desperate to get laid so I will be exploring other mongering options.

Yeah they saw you as easy money. I messaged a few and I got some for 300-400 are incalled / outcall + Uber. The thing about the online girls is that they have a pretty stable client base, alot of them stay in Transamerica which has a bunch of guys going in and out, they have to time their schedule which can be all over the place sometimes since they can be from out of state / city and they have things set up days or weeks in advance with other guys. They have to be business minded so they can maximize their earning potential. It sucks but not all of them are like this tho. Talking to a few of them I did gather that they liked when the guy spoke some porto (because you know how girls love to talk) sex is better when you can easily communicate as well. Also depends how good looking you are / personality. I had a girl charge me 500+uber for 1 HR and then the next time she charged 500 for 1. 5 HR no uber so if they like you after the first meeting they can be a little more easy on the pricing since they know you aren't a creep or anything like that which is also one of their risks compared to a terma or prive where there are some security.

I found the best pricing are the termas like 4 x4 and solarium (centaraus is also good but pretty expensive compared to the rest but I would try to go at least once and get as many numbers. I met a really hot cool chick and most of the girls were pretty friendly) and some prives. The girls at the termas are super chill and it seems like they are in it for a good time and I got a few overnight for 200 R who were real hot. So it's a cat and mouse game of finding the right girls because some do overcharge.

That being said I wouldn't let 500 R be the reason not to bang a hottie you want. Some posters will scoff at your money management but at the same time it's your money to do with and you could never return to Brazil ever again for whatever reason so get the most out of it. 500 R is high but it's not absurd like 1000 for 1 HR. 500 R is like $90 and to me that's a cheap date you go on a girl with you are trying to bang not including your time. In Barcelona you pay close to 100 to 150 Euro, Montreal you pay $125-140 and London you pay 100-150 Pounds all much more expensive. There are some girls that charge 200 R that I wouldn't fuck for free. I know what I like and I will pay the price (again not absurd prices) because I'm on vacation for 2 weeks and I want to bang as many hot girls as I can manage (the FOMO is always the worst sometimes).

Don't hesitate to PM some posters as well there are some who like to take some newbies under their wings and you can go thru a crash course in a few days.