Rio de Janeiro Reports

[WyattEarp]

I don't believe that pushy is typical for Rio termas. In 20 years, I remember 2 pushy girls. One took a gentle hint and disappeared, another one got told off by another girl who didn't like her behavior. It's nothing to be concerned of, IMHO.

But, yeah, for clubs (boates) SP can't be beat. Still, Rio is a beautiful and fun city. Try to use these adjectives to describe SP, LOL.

There's nothing wrong with the recurring debate of Rio vs. Sao Paulo. We all learn from the discussion. Newbies especially learn. Since I cut my Brazilian teeth on the Rio scene and I enjoy this tropical paradise, I am biased. Having said that, there is probably no place on earth that currently rivals Scandallo. It ain't that cheap either.

Pushy termas girls ain't no big thang. These girls are in sales. They usually get the hint if you are forceful. "I'm not interested. No thank you. " Walk away. I've had to be the five minute jerk in a dozen like venues around the world.

[Mr Enternational]

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide,

Nahh. Happens all over the world. Mongers are over in Asia buying cars and building houses for hookers. He got off easy.

[Spidy]

Awww Zebra. So sorry. Been there done that and been taken worse than you. I see new faces here. But in the SP thread many followed the Thifany story meet a girl in a Boate, have an amazing time, fly her to London and have the best week of my life (happy to repost or PM if you haven't read it). There was no downside in this one. She got engaged shortly thereafter, so we parted amicably.

Trying to repeat this with a hottie from Buenos Aires was heart breaking. We spent the best time together in BA like we were in love. 21 hrs together over three days (as opposed to 5 with Thifany before I pulled the trigger on London. LOL) Went to the sex club together.

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide, with an Argentinian chica. What were you thinking? ...kkkk

Once again, thanks for sharing, your life hobbying experiences. I think more than anything, what I've gleaned from this experience (and others you've previously shared), is that you seem to like to have fun and the thrill of a good adventure, with some of semi-pro / pros, that you form a strong bond or connection with.

There is a middle-ground here and some might call it a "sweet-spot", in hobbying:

Now...there's the finger'em, fuck'em and pay'em and get the fuck out crowd and then...there's the I can turn a "hoe into a housewife" crowd.

On occasion, those that fall somewhere in between the two-ends of the spectrum, when we find a connection with a certain semi-pro / pro "hottie", may simply want to have some "short term" fun and adventure, with said hottie. For the most part, we are not always looking to make "hoes into housewives", nor are we looking to "kick'em to the curb" our earliest convenience.

You name it. Flew her to London and she dropped me like a hot rock. Between flight costs, a new phone, and some other out about $3000. And fuck it HURT. Much more than the monetary loss

I feel your pain and so does my wallet. Ouch!...kkkk

Now understand, Brasileiras semi-pro and pro P4P providers, are the probably the best in the world at stimulating that true girlfriend experience and at making you feel like the king of the castle. Many of us here, are duly guilty of "falling" (and sometimes falling hard) for semi-pro/pro Brasileiras and suffered the "heartache" and/or "bank account" withdrawal pain. Just not perhaps, on the same scale. As you say, you have no regrets.

But I'm sure you went into the "arrangement" for adventure, with "eyes wide open". So nothing ventured, nothing gained. I for one, enjoy a good adventure, even when the outcome isn't as expected or anticipated. Sure you can have these "adventures" with regular "normal girlfriends" (albeit less riskier perhaps), but somehow it's just not the same thing. Or for me at least, the deviant sexual adventure aspects are very different than with a "normal" girlfriend.

I honestly don't regret the overall experience because the first part was soooo good. But what a lesson in how you feel like you know a girl only to find out she is a stone cold be*tch underneath. So eyes ALWAYS wide open and enjoy it while you can. There is ALWAYS another. Dive right in and don't look back.

So you are not the first hobbyist, nor will you be the last, to fall for Brasileiras and their Siren ways. And hence, Mr. E, will be telling his precautionary tales of "love, money and relationships" with a hooker, for the next 16 years.

[Yossarian]

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.

Nailed it. If you want a LTR with a woman, never. Never ever lead with $$ You are communicating weakness and low value. You are setting the frame of the relationship on your value as a provider and will be considered an ATM from there on out. Now, if you want to bang strippers / termas girls / hookers, have it and lead with the $$ Enjoy the fuck out of (and fucking them) them and discard when done. Each type of girl has her place depending on what you are trying to do.

[Xpartan]

This is a new drama series set in the 1970-1990 Rio that I've been thoroughly enjoying so far. A tight storyline, beautiful people, excellent acting, and I swear the screenshot of Help moved something in me even thought I never was a fan of the place, LOL. Highly recommended!

[The Cane]

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.

Them's the facts bro! Could not have said it better myself. But you know there's always somebody who just has to "date" a tute, when really it should be all about the Five F's. Then when it doesn't work out, they're saddened. What could they have reasonably expected? Find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them. Then forget them!

[Exec Talent]

Some guys have been burnt. Others fear being burnt.

Women are women. Met a drop-dead gorgeous Russian working girl in a club who was fantastic company, didn't ask me for anything and actually gave me gifts. She had a boyfriend who treated her badly.

Had a friend in the US who asked me to date her sister to show her how a real man treated women because she had a boyfriend who was treating her badly.

If you think it is only about money for sex, then you are right, it will only be about money for sex. Have I gotten burnt. Absolutely. Would I do it again. Absolutely.

Help Disco was one of the biggest illusions ever. Here I am in this "nightclub" dancing and drinking with all these girls. At the end of the night, one is going home with me. It was so successful because there are tons of guys from around the world who were not into ordering escorts, having sex and that was the end of it. They wanted the illusion.

[Vagabundo1]

Give her a card.

Can have biz cards made in Rio at a grafica or at home easily.

Friday night I went to Club 116, there were a couple of hot negras so I sat down next to one who was already with a guy. She kept looking at me and smiling, but fearful of causing a disturbance, we only flirted while her customer wasn't looking. I finished my drink and before I got up to leave I slide my card over and she takes it and I'm out the door. As soon as I hit the sidewalk my phone starts blowing up, she tells me"come back up, why did I leave?" I tell her sorry I have an appointment. So I walk over to 4 x4 and walk up the stairs to the boate and I'm informed the Wiskeria is closed but I can go inside in my street clothes (I can't stand those funky robes). Once inside it was the usual 4 x4 scene a few negras, brancas and morenas, I was approached by three different contract employees and gave my card to two of them, other than that, uneventful and not very interesting.

[Mr Enternational]

Trying to repeat this with a hottie from Buenos Aires was heart breaking. We spent the best time together in BA like we were in love. 21 hrs together over three days (as opposed to 5 with Thifany before I pulled the trigger on London. LOL) Went to the sex club together. You name it. Flew her to London and she dropped me like a hot rock. Between flight costs, a new phone, and some other out about $3000. And fuck it HURT. Much more than the monetary loss.

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.

[Steve 9696]

When you 'date' a GDP, she starts seeing you as her personal ATM / boyfriend. I'd say it's a good thing. It's like a alarm beeping in your head that nudges you to move on. You may hate it, but you know it's time to get out of bed. Imagine how much damage a more sophisticated creature could cause to both your wallet and your heart with a longer, well executed con. Actually, no need to imagine, as our esteemed Exec Talent described it clearly in another thread.

You might be young, but you're wise, too. Love them, enjoy them, pay them, don't fall for them. I really appreciate your reports, thank you!

Awww Zebra. So sorry. Been there done that and been taken worse than you. I see new faces here. But in the SP thread many followed the Thifany story meet a girl in a Boate, have an amazing time, fly her to London and have the best week of my life (happy to repost or PM if you haven't read it). There was no downside in this one. She got engaged shortly thereafter, so we parted amicably.

Trying to repeat this with a hottie from Buenos Aires was heart breaking. We spent the best time together in BA like we were in love. 21 hrs together over three days (as opposed to 5 with Thifany before I pulled the trigger on London. LOL) Went to the sex club together. You name it. Flew her to London and she dropped me like a hot rock. Between flight costs, a new phone, and some other out about $3000. And fuck it HURT. Much more than the monetary loss.

Fortunately I knew the cure was to fuck hottties fast and furious and fucked 10 girls in 5 days in London (Diva escorts mostly) including the most epic duo of my life with the legendary Melty and her flat mate Pantera. OMG.

I honestly don't regret the overall experience because the first part was soooo good. But what a lesson in how you feel like you know a girl only to find out she is a stone cold b*tch underneath. So eyes ALWAYS wide open and enjoy it while you can. There is ALWAYS another. Dive right in and don't look back.

[Member #4729]

Truth is, around the world, women like sex, just not bad sex. The mantra of many here is that you can't turn a GDP into a housewife. If she can sleep in your bed while you hold her, wake up in the morning without you jumping her bones and spend the day with you just holding hands and taking it all in, you might find at night she is the one who wants to please you and wants nothing in return. For that night and day at least, she wasn't a GDP.

I agree with this completely. Its not totally fair to lump all the GDP's into one category- there is a wide variety just as their are mongers and all connections are individual. This particular GDP was young and unsophisticated despite her aspirations to material wealth, and either didn't have the skill, ability or desire to play the long slow game.

[Member #4729]

When you 'date' a GDP, she starts seeing you as her personal ATM / boyfriend. I'd say it's a good thing. It's like a alarm beeping in your head that nudges you to move on. You may hate it, but you know it's time to get out of bed. Imagine how much damage a more sophisticated creature could cause to both your wallet and your heart with a longer, well executed con.

A longer, more well executed con. Hmm. Sounds like "marriage".

[The Cane]

For those that seem disenchanted w Rio, I believe it's generally acknowledged that SP is better than Rio for girls. While I don't personally have firsthand knowledge of Rio, My firsthand knowledge of (precovid) SP is there are plenty of 8+ Girls in the Boates. And the kicker is that most girls I've been with in SP (about 15) have been from Rio! They come to SP to make their Boate money. Def recommend you try SP before you judge Brazil.

P.S. Someone described the pushy experience they received in the termas just like FKK. You will never get this at A nice Boate in SP. The only incentive to get me to the room was twice I've had my dick seriously assaulted while in the club. And this after a half hour plus of hanging out. It worked BTW. LOL.

I do have firsthand knowledge of both cities, and I know that both are great for girls! Each has its pros and cons. And as Xpartan says, "pushy" is rare for a termas. I think the main issue is this pandemic. These aren't normal times, and therefore you can't draw a reasonable conclusion based on today's circumstances. Once we get past this, I expect the situation on the ground to improve dramatically in Rio in terms of available talent. Rio is normally great for girls folks, and a marvelous city! You just need to know how to work that market, which doesn't work like Sao Paulo, and vice versa. But while COVID is still raging in Brazil, everything is going to stay messed up! Be patient.

[Vagabundo1]

At RB156 you can just say a name and not show ID (tell them you don't have it, left it in your safe). So they record your name as Ronald McDonald, yes they have your picture (grow a beard), don't commit any felonies, at least not on camera.

Visited multiple clinicas recently and generally had a good time. Prices have come down from last time I was here, most spas were charging Rs 120/ h. But I think the pandemic took its toll on the Cariocas, I had a hard time finding skinny providers in the spas. Summary of a few experiences worth highlighting.

Belprazer in Centro; best selection of all spas I visited. At least 10 ladies in lineup at any given time, all shapes and sizes. I sessioned with 4 ladies on 4 days. All did their best to please, and all provided GFE. My favorite was Duda, perhaps the hottest lady this trip. We connected well and she was the closest to GFE I got this entire trip.

Onix Spa in Centro; Underwhelming for several reasons. Selection was weak, most of the ladies on the website were there, but they don't look as nice as the pics. Second, the rooms are really shitty, phone booth size (like Mezzanine in Bogota) with a shower at the foot of the bed. Third, they are relatively expensive, they charge Rs 170/ h, a 40% premium over other spas for reasons not clear to me. Finally, getting into the building is annoying. You have to register at the ground floor to get a key that allows you to access the elevators and exit the building as well. They record your ID info and take your picture, very intrusive. Dudas spa is in the same building..

[Vagabundo1]

Yeah, RJ is the best, it has the beach, and waterfalls on hikes.

SP is nothing but urban sprawl ad infinitum.

My SP girl (who is a RJ native) canceled her trip to RJ, alas. But she said, them breve.

I don't believe that pushy is typical for Rio termas. In 20 years, I remember 2 pushy girls. One took a gentle hint and disappeared, another one got told off by another girl who didn't like her behavior. It's nothing to be concerned of, IMHO.

But, yeah, for clubs (boates) SP can't be beat. Still, Rio is a beautiful and fun city. Try to use these adjectives to describe SP, LOL.