Rio de Janeiro Reports

**Spidy** · 06-07-21 17:26

Veterans and newbies, should all take time to actually read what other people "actually" post and not just jump in willy-nilly, just for the sake of posting.

Yes there is a Brazil "Non-Pro Garotas. Opinions & Advice" thread. Use it when appropriate.

But, if BMs took the time to clearly read what was being said by their fellow BMs, you'd note that the recent discussion and conversations, have been mostly about the advantages, disadvantages, pro, cons, hazards and pitfalls and the like with regards to P4P and dating Semi-pros and Pros.

With all due respect, the conversion is right where it needs to be.

**Vagabundo1** · 06-07-21 15:37

I liked the first 10 minutes.

It is a sequel to tropa de elite, complete with the same music in the favela party. The favela looks like it is above copa, the entrance there near arpoador.

Cop with a son, same as Wagner Moura.

Originally Posted by Sperto [View Original Post]

I just finished watching the first season of "Dom".

**Lefeu** · 06-07-21 04:40

Originally Posted by WyattEarp [View Original Post]

...Pushy termas girls ain't no big thang. These girls are in sales. They usually get the hint if you are forceful. "I'm not interested. No thank you. " Walk away. I've had to be the five minute jerk in a dozen like venues around the world.

A long time ago, I was at Terma 65, I believe. There was this one girl who just would not leave me alone. She wanted a cita from me, and kept following me all over the place, trying to convince me to give her a try. That tactic tends to turn me off. After an hour or so, I decided to go straight to the mamasan (or manager) and asked her to intervene on my behalf. I never saw the girl after that.

**Sperto** · 06-07-21 04:02

Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]

This is a new drama series set in the 1970-1990 Rio that I've been thoroughly enjoying so far. A tight storyline, beautiful people, excellent acting, and I swear the screenshot of Help moved something in me even thought I never was a fan of the place, LOL. Highly recommended!

I just finished watching the first season of "Dom". I liked it.
Of course they couldn't film a Help scene as it was closed 11 years ago, but the outside part of Help with the sign could fool some people. Still the garage was missing and Help wasn't in a residencial building.

**Vagabundo1** · 06-07-21 03:14

Some of this excellent discussion by Mr E and others should be moved over to the non pro dating thread.

But Vagabundo would commend to we few, we happy few mongers, The Canterbury Tales, one tale about a gap toothed woman, who by the description most certainly was not a 8 + in looks. But the point is that if a man picks a woman strictly on her looks, or how her butthole looks when she is on all fours facing away from the camera in a boate, then a man is likely to be disappointed in the long run. OK, maybe sex is the ultimate short term adrenaline rush drug, which is what some worthy brothers of the blade on this board, like Safado69 say, and which I agree with. But I must say that even tonight Vagabundo went out with a quality woman, who has a real position, real history, real responsibilities, including a kid, and a sister, and Vagabundo was quite happy. I mean Vagabundo can get all the hot pussy, ass and mouth he wants, both branca and negra though he truly prefers morenas like Franceska Jaimes, of which there are many here in Rio. But to actually be out with a woman who has some character, like her own fucking car, like a job with a boss who is a important person, and who can get into places with quality people, not just some scum ball high end pimp who is really evil, well, that may well be the gap toothed woman of the Cantebury Tales. Is that strictly P4 P- you are always paying, Vagabundo paid for dinner at Na Brasa Colombia in Botafogo, but it's just meals and entertainment, 50% of which is GAAP deductible.

The point of this missive is that Mr. E was spot on right, stop trying to find a meaningful relationship with hookers. Or ex hookers.

**Steve 9696** · 06-07-21 02:58

Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]

Oh, I don't doubt that for a second. But buying a airplane ticket vs buying a car, condo or house are miles apart in comparison.

What guys decide to spend on their companionship, in pursuit of their "hap-penis", is totally up to them. He had no regrets and I'm guessing, but would probably no doubt, take that minor risk again, for a potential great adventure and his inevitable "hap-penis". Monger On!

Yep Spidy u said it well.

More power to Mr E if he is scoring hot 8's and 9's for free, but unless I'm mistaken this is basically a P4 P forum so most guys here are not. I am happy to pay for my 7-9.5's with NSA and no drama (to speak of). And as you say there are two types here (and Mr E) those who pay for sex and say goodbye at the end of an hour. And those that love having a paid girlfriend. I am the latter. I want the dinners. I want the dancing and sleep overs. But I'm not fool enough to think a 23 year old 9 is hanging with me because my fifty-something-ness is flat out awesome. I pay for the illusion and I enjoy it.

Good news is I was undeterred by my Valentina fail and flew Alexa (Vegas Sb) to Miami for a long weekend and it was fucking amazing. And I'll do it again soon with Mika. I love having a paid girlfriend and can afford it. Nothing but goodness as far as I'm concerned.

**Spidy** · 06-07-21 01:18

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

Nahh. Happens all over the world. Mongers are over in Asia buying cars and building houses for hookers. He got off easy.

Oh, I don't doubt that for a second. But buying a airplane ticket vs buying a car, condo or house are miles apart in comparison.

What guys decide to spend on their companionship, in pursuit of their "hap-penis", is totally up to them. He had no regrets and I'm guessing, but would probably no doubt, take that minor risk again, for a potential great adventure and his inevitable "hap-penis". Monger On!

**The Cane** · 06-07-21 00:46

Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide, with an Argentinian chica. What were you thinking? ...kkkk

Once again, thanks for sharing, your life hobbying experiences. I think more than anything, what I've gleaned from this experience (and others you've previously shared), is that you seem to like to have fun and the thrill of a good adventure, with some of semi-pro / pros, that you form a strong bond or connection with.

There is a middle-ground here and some might call it a "sweet-spot", in hobbying:

Now...there's the finger'em, fuck'em and pay'em and get the fuck out crowd and then...there's the I can turn a "hoe into a housewife" crowd.

On occasion, those that fall somewhere in between the two-ends of the spectrum, when we find a connection with a certain semi-pro / pro "hottie", may simply want to have some "short term" fun and adventure, with said hottie. For the most part, we are not always looking to make "hoes into housewives", nor are we looking to "kick'em to the curb" our earliest convenience.

I've stood on that middle ground before. However, it's a rarity for me. Normally, I subscribe to the philosophy that we pay them to leave!

**WyattEarp** · 06-06-21 23:24

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

Nahh. Happens all over the world. Mongers are over in Asia buying cars and building houses for hookers. He got off easy.

That is funny stuff Mr. E.

It's been awhile here since we have had a story of some foreigner buying a Brazilian chick a condo only to find out he's been locked out and taken.

**WyattEarp** · 06-06-21 23:20

Originally Posted by Xpartan [View Original Post]

I don't believe that pushy is typical for Rio termas. In 20 years, I remember 2 pushy girls. One took a gentle hint and disappeared, another one got told off by another girl who didn't like her behavior. It's nothing to be concerned of, IMHO.

But, yeah, for clubs (boates) SP can't be beat. Still, Rio is a beautiful and fun city. Try to use these adjectives to describe SP, LOL.

There's nothing wrong with the recurring debate of Rio vs. Sao Paulo. We all learn from the discussion. Newbies especially learn. Since I cut my Brazilian teeth on the Rio scene and I enjoy this tropical paradise, I am biased. Having said that, there is probably no place on earth that currently rivals Scandallo. It ain't that cheap either.

Pushy termas girls ain't no big thang. These girls are in sales. They usually get the hint if you are forceful. "I'm not interested. No thank you. " Walk away. I've had to be the five minute jerk in a dozen like venues around the world.

**Mr Enternational** · 06-06-21 23:08

Originally Posted by Spidy [View Original Post]

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide,

Nahh. Happens all over the world. Mongers are over in Asia buying cars and building houses for hookers. He got off easy.

**Spidy** · 06-06-21 22:06

Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]

Awww Zebra. So sorry. Been there done that and been taken worse than you. I see new faces here. But in the SP thread many followed the Thifany story meet a girl in a Boate, have an amazing time, fly her to London and have the best week of my life (happy to repost or PM if you haven't read it). There was no downside in this one. She got engaged shortly thereafter, so we parted amicably.

Trying to repeat this with a hottie from Buenos Aires was heart breaking. We spent the best time together in BA like we were in love. 21 hrs together over three days (as opposed to 5 with Thifany before I pulled the trigger on London. LOL) Went to the sex club together.

Your first and only mistake, is trying to emulate and replicate that true "girlfriend experience" that ONLY a Brasileira can provide, with an Argentinian chica. What were you thinking? ...kkkk

Once again, thanks for sharing, your life hobbying experiences. I think more than anything, what I've gleaned from this experience (and others you've previously shared), is that you seem to like to have fun and the thrill of a good adventure, with some of semi-pro / pros, that you form a strong bond or connection with.

There is a middle-ground here and some might call it a "sweet-spot", in hobbying:

Now...there's the finger'em, fuck'em and pay'em and get the fuck out crowd and then...there's the I can turn a "hoe into a housewife" crowd.

On occasion, those that fall somewhere in between the two-ends of the spectrum, when we find a connection with a certain semi-pro / pro "hottie", may simply want to have some "short term" fun and adventure, with said hottie. For the most part, we are not always looking to make "hoes into housewives", nor are we looking to "kick'em to the curb" our earliest convenience.

Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]

You name it. Flew her to London and she dropped me like a hot rock. Between flight costs, a new phone, and some other out about $3000. And fuck it HURT. Much more than the monetary loss

I feel your pain and so does my wallet. Ouch!...kkkk

Now understand, Brasileiras semi-pro and pro P4P providers, are the probably the best in the world at stimulating that true girlfriend experience and at making you feel like the king of the castle. Many of us here, are duly guilty of "falling" (and sometimes falling hard) for semi-pro/pro Brasileiras and suffered the "heartache" and/or "bank account" withdrawal pain. Just not perhaps, on the same scale. As you say, you have no regrets.

But I'm sure you went into the "arrangement" for adventure, with "eyes wide open". So nothing ventured, nothing gained. I for one, enjoy a good adventure, even when the outcome isn't as expected or anticipated. Sure you can have these "adventures" with regular "normal girlfriends" (albeit less riskier perhaps), but somehow it's just not the same thing. Or for me at least, the deviant sexual adventure aspects are very different than with a "normal" girlfriend.

Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]

I honestly don't regret the overall experience because the first part was soooo good. But what a lesson in how you feel like you know a girl only to find out she is a stone cold be*tch underneath. So eyes ALWAYS wide open and enjoy it while you can. There is ALWAYS another. Dive right in and don't look back.

So you are not the first hobbyist, nor will you be the last, to fall for Brasileiras and their Siren ways. And hence, Mr. E, will be telling his precautionary tales of "love, money and relationships" with a hooker, for the next 16 years.

**Yossarian** · 06-06-21 21:49

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.

Nailed it. If you want a LTR with a woman, never. Never ever lead with $$ You are communicating weakness and low value. You are setting the frame of the relationship on your value as a provider and will be considered an ATM from there on out. Now, if you want to bang strippers / termas girls / hookers, have it and lead with the $$ Enjoy the fuck out of (and fucking them) them and discard when done. Each type of girl has her place depending on what you are trying to do.

**Xpartan** · 06-06-21 19:46

This is a new drama series set in the 1970-1990 Rio that I've been thoroughly enjoying so far. A tight storyline, beautiful people, excellent acting, and I swear the screenshot of Help moved something in me even thought I never was a fan of the place, LOL. Highly recommended!

**The Cane** · 06-06-21 18:11

Originally Posted by MrEnternational [View Original Post]

Easy solution is to stop trying to date hookers and find a normal girlfriend. If you lead with money then you know she is there for money. Why is this so hard to understand? For 16 years on this website I have said show up without money to see how they really feel about you. Easy exercise. But you guys already know how they really feel because you pour money into them to TRY to keep them around, which does not always work.

A real girlfriend will love you for you and not because you are giving her money and stuff. The only chicks I have ever given anything to are the ones I had history with and they did not ask. And they certainly were not hookers. I have been with my girlfriend for 4 years and she has never asked me for shit. Just recently I have started buying her shit when I see it is actually needed without her saying anything.

Get with someone that actually appreciates and loves you, and not with somebody that will be gone when the money stops. Next time you really like someone say it out loud to yourself to see if you are thinking rationally. I met a chick that is a school teacher that I really like. I met a chick that is a lawyer that I really like. I met a chick that is a hooker that I really like. One of these things sounds ridiculous.

There is a place for hookers, but stop getting their place confused. You pay them in cash after you fuck. Keep It Simple. Money can't buy you love, especially from a hooker. If that was the case then she would be in love with every customer that walked in the door.

Them's the facts bro! Could not have said it better myself. But you know there's always somebody who just has to "date" a tute, when really it should be all about the Five F's. Then when it doesn't work out, they're saddened. What could they have reasonably expected? Find them, feel them, finger them, fuck them. Then forget them!