Cartagena Reports

[Mr Enternational]

Are the owners trying to push their labor costs onto us!

Which is exactly how tipping in the US got started. One of the many great magic tricks pulled off in our country over the centuries. It is akin to the one about explorers arriving with bibles and locals having gold, but when the explorers leave they have the gold and the locals have the bibles.

[Nyezhov]

Yep. And not only in Colombia, but in almost all other places in the world. American tourists have spoiled local markets and not by just tipping, but tipping ridiculously large sums like 15-25%. In many countries, even when tipping is expected, it might be just a few euros, or rounding up or maybe 7-10% (what Brits normally tip, if at all). As a result, people in many parts of the world where tipping has never been customary, proactively ask for tips as if it's a fucking norm now.

Like me! Bwahahahahah, the dreadlocked cheap charlie backpackers hated me in Cambodia because I would tip a $1.50 on a 50 cent beer LOL.

The money is funny there, that's how it worked out.

[El Moreno 92]

Fresh back from a 4 day run in Cartagena. This is my 6th time and I got to say, the quality of the babes was as high as ever for me. The curfew put a damper on things but we adapted. Stayed in Bocagrande and had no issue bringing in talent in our AirBnB. Did the beach during the day everyday except one day. Each day snagged a nice on from the beach for 200 k. Anyone saying their paying 100 k on the beach me be paying that but the quality is not that good at that price. Did one day hanging out walking around the Old City and met some stunners just out walking. Nice Cuban Cigar spot called Tobaco why Ron showed us a good time when we brought in some babes we met out walking the please City. Tried Delirium at night and that's just not my scene. Just to packed and to dam loud. Maybe 10 years ago I could party there but not now. Parked it in Dolce Vita and Space every night and had no problem landing stars. They all started at 300 k and I only got one down to 250 k. I too wear flip flops and shorts out at night. I want the babes to know I am a target. I'm not showing up in Versace of I got to pay anyway. All and all, had a fantastic time and going back soon. I prefer Cartagena over Medellin because of the beach and how close everything is. Last thing, those Venezuelan babes know how to party in Cartagena. We got back to my place and we drank and partied for a few hours before any sex popped off. Great time. If that government ever gets its act together, I'll be a regular in Venezuela!

Check your DM.

[OnFireBoy]

It must be borne in mind that in Colombia and especially in Cartagena, the restaurants and bars in the tourist area are focused on serving people who are not from Cartagena, and for most local people it is a luxury to eat or spend a night drinking cocktails and beers in a bar in the center or Bocagrande as you do.

In Colombia, the minimum wage is approximately COP 900 k, but let's be honest that is not enough to support a single person, much less a family and unfortunately in Latin America the poorer a family is, the larger it is, and the more children they have.

So if you see a waiter or a bartender or a kitchen assistant in a restaurant or bar or disco in the tourist area, most likely they are being paid the legal minimum and many times less than that, but then because they accept to work In those conditions if, in the end, they didn't even have enough to eat with that money? Yes, you are correct the tips!

With this, I am not saying that you are forced to pay a tip anywhere even if the service was bad, because first of all it is not mandatory and second I believe that tips are earned with the attitude of good service and dedication to doing feel to the client that they are being well cared for and that it is important to them.

Normally the waiter asks if you want to include the service, which is 10% by default, but you have the freedom to say that you want to pay 5% or whatever amount you decide on the account or that you do not want to include it or tell them not to include in the account but that you are going to pay separately to the person who attended you, and for a person whose day is COP 30 K = 10 USD, receive a tip that is half or even less than what they earn in a day whole work is more than enough.

[Xpartan]

I used to manage restaurants years ago and I have to throw in here that in many restaurants, it does not matter how fancy or expensive really it just matters how it is staffed, so in many restaurants that tip could end up being split up to four ways, some places the tip is split down between the wait person, the bus person, the bartender who made the drinks and then sometimes there is a person doing salads and desserts who has to be tipped out too. If you are at very place then you also have to account for the matre the' getting a cut and if you drink wine there is the Sommelier. At a bare minimum unless the place is really slow the wait people are tipping out to the bus people (10% of there tips) and the bartender (20% of their tips) , as some one who worked in the industry my view is that not tipping enough isn't just not cool, its straight up being freeloader.

That being said I think we can all agree that if Colombia wants gringos to tip they need to learn to go back to that table once in a while a say "Hola, Necesitas algo ms" instead of me having to practically chase the waitress into the kitchen at Crepes and Waffles to let her know we would like to order dessert. LOL.

I understand where you stand, but our tipping culture should stay within our borders. There is no need to spread this nonsense around the world. If you believe in doing what Romans do, then tip like Romans in Rome, not like Americans in Rome, GA jaja.

[Nypher]

Shit. I know they are. Don't know if you saw the video a couple of weeks ago about the guy in Sosua paying the chick $100, but she tried to change it after the fact and say it was supposed to be $150. And people said that they only do cheapskates like me that way. I have never given a Sosua chick even half of $100. Here this man agrees to $100 and she still tries to rip him off. I think she stole his necklace too, but he did not realize it until it was too late. Damn. Stole his shit and stuck around to argue for more money. These mfs are relentless. And some mongers have the nerve to kiss up to them. LOL.

I saw that video when it came out and shook my head in disappointment when I saw her face. My thoughts was that he over paid because she was licking his ass or he have some crazy fetish because she looked like someone who been out there too long walking those streets.

He paid her $100 for TLN which was way too high. This is one of the reasons many are no longer going to DR. The chicas became too Americanized when these mongers started paying them in $USD at US prices. I have friends who pay $300 a session in NYC / NJ and would travel to DR thinking $100 a session is a great deal not realizing they overpaid 4 X the price as its only 1500 pesos a session.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I used to manage restaurants years ago and I have to throw in here that in many restaurants, it does not matter how fancy or expensive really it just matters how it is staffed, so in many restaurants that tip could end up being split up to four ways, some places the tip is split down between the wait person, the bus person, the bartender who made the drinks and then sometimes there is a person doing salads and desserts who has to be tipped out too. If you are at very place then you also have to account for the matre the' getting a cut and if you drink wine there is the Sommelier. At a bare minimum unless the place is really slow the wait people are tipping out to the bus people (10% of there tips) and the bartender (20% of their tips) , as some one who worked in the industry my view is that not tipping enough isn't just not cool, its straight up being freeloader.

That being said I think we can all agree that if Colombia wants gringos to tip they need to learn to go back to that table once in a while a say "Hola, Necesitas algo ms" instead of me having to practically chase the waitress into the kitchen at Crepes and Waffles to let her know we would like to order dessert. LOL.

Are the owners trying to push their labor costs onto us!

[Mojo Bandit]

- In Colombia, they automatically add the 10% voluntary tip in upscale restaurants. No one will refuse. T

I do not think it is a scam. I think they just assume you are going to give it anyway and save you the trouble by adding it. Because I mean why not. No need to be cheap.

There are plenty of restaurants in the USA That do the same thing (think some areas of NYC or Miami Beach). And then they have the audacity to add an additional TIPS line to your check after ripping you off for 17-20% with the service charges..

I used to manage restaurants years ago and I have to throw in here that in many restaurants, it does not matter how fancy or expensive really it just matters how it is staffed, so in many restaurants that tip could end up being split up to four ways, some places the tip is split down between the wait person, the bus person, the bartender who made the drinks and then sometimes there is a person doing salads and desserts who has to be tipped out too. If you are at very place then you also have to account for the maître the' getting a cut and if you drink wine there is the Sommelier. At a bare minimum unless the place is really slow the wait people are tipping out to the bus people (10% of there tips) and the bartender (20% of their tips) , as some one who worked in the industry my view is that not tipping enough isn't just not cool, its straight up being freeloader.

That being said I think we can all agree that if Colombia wants gringos to tip they need to learn to go back to that table once in a while a say "Hola, Necesitas algo más" instead of me having to practically chase the waitress into the kitchen at Crepes and Waffles to let her know we would like to order dessert. LOL.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Beauty is subjective. You know how many pictures on here that I have seen of someone bragging of some 10 they have fucked but to me looked like a 2, and I am sure it has been the same for some chicks I have posted.

Why do you have it in your head that you not only must give extra money, but must give a lot extra if the girl looks really good to you? You pay the price that you negotiate. There is no need to give tips because you fucked the girl. Yesterday when I caught a taxi I did not give extra. Today when I ate at a restaurant I did not give extra (service charge already included on most bills). For the condo I am staying in I did not give extra. Why give extra for fucking someone?

And Touche'.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Sounds to me like you are just cheap..

What is this word "cheap".

At the risk of leading the witness, here is mine.

Frugal.

Froo-guhl.

See synonyms for: frugal / frugality on Thesaurus.com.

Adjective.

Economical in use or expenditure; prudently saving or sparing; not wasteful:

What your office needs is a frugal manager who can save you money without resorting to painful cutbacks.

I know many things to do with my money than be overcharged by third world putas aka flushing it down the shitter.

Mongering alert 101 there isn't any "status" in being overcharged.

Correction, there is always 3rd world puta "chump status".

In my travels I have seen that most really poor people don't even see genuine "generosity" as kindness but rather view it as desperate / weakness and stoopidity.

[GrownMan1]

”you can get the hottest chica in Sosua for about $50”.

Really?! Huh OK. Cross your fingers but don't hold your breath. Some of the baddest chicas charge 100 to 150 a night. Currently 3000 pesos ($52) or higher is the beginning asking price for most chicas ST. But I see your point.

[GreenBud]

That's my philosophy, anyway.

Good philosophy.

[Xpartan]

- Sometimes they add a 100% tip. I hate being scammed. I'm somewhat mentally sick in which half my day is ruined because I get angry because I got ripped off for a few dollars. I always tip. But I would prefer to tip 3 K rather than the waiter adding 2 K.

There are plenty of restaurants in the USA That do the same thing (think some areas of NYC or Miami Beach). And then they have the audacity to add an additional TIPS line to your check after ripping you off for 17-20% with the service charges.

I prefer to give my unnecessary tips to girls rather than the waiters. The waiters don't suck my dick.

Well, this is where I respectfully disagree. The whole concept of tipping, IMHO, to help low-wage employees in the service industry to make ends meet. And it doesn't matter how much you pay the girl who sucks your dick or how grateful you are, she makes more money, a lot more in fact, than your typical waitress, maid, or cabby. That's my philosophy, anyway.

[Combo]

Shit. I know they are. Don't know if you saw the video a couple of weeks ago about the guy in Sosua paying the chick $100, but she tried to change it after the fact and say it was supposed to be $150. And people said that they only do cheapskates like me that way. I have never given a Sosua chick even half of $100. Here this man agrees to $100 and she still tries to rip him off. I think she stole his necklace too, but he did not realize it until it was too late. Damn. Stole his shit and stuck around to argue for more money. These mfs are relentless. And some mongers have the nerve to kiss up to them. LOL.

My guess is she was emboldened to try to scam him because he was stupid enough to agree to $100 in the first place. Unless you're grossly obese or don't wipe your ass, you can get the hottest chica in Sosua for about $50. This guy tipped her off that he was a fool and she took it a step farther.

[GreenBud]

I do not think it is a scam. I think they just assume you are going to give it anyway and save you the trouble by adding it. Because I mean why not.

- Sometimes they add a 100% tip. I hate being scammed. I'm somewhat mentally sick in which half my day is ruined because I get angry because I got ripped off for a few dollars. I always tip. But I would prefer to tip 3 K rather than the waiter adding 2 K.

- What's the Colombian standard, in terms of tipping, when ordering from a waiter at a strip joint or a nightclub?

No need to be cheap.

I prefer to give my unnecessary tips to girls rather than the waiters. The waiters don't suck my dick.