Medellin Reports

[Mr Enternational]

I quickly noticed that Relative to Rio de Janeiro, there seems to be more economic disruption here- in Bogota half the buildings are empty or for sale, and in both cities (Bog+Med)

Depends on the apple. In Curitiba, Brazil there were tons of empty places with for rent and for sale signs. Rio is way bigger than Bogota and Medellin. Curitiba is smaller than Bogota and bigger than Medellin. I do not think I know any Brazilians that lost jobs due to the pandemic.

A follow up question- if it is indeed the case that Colombians are suffering disproportionately- why have SW prices, particularly in Bogota seem to have risen to unrealistic levels? One would surmise the opposite to be true.

One from the first world may surmise that. In Latin America and Southeast Asia, if business is bad then you raise prices to make up for the loss.

[Villainy]

Not worth debating any more here. I have often said, people who post have their minds made up already, it's not as if anyone here is asking whether or not they should get vaccinated. As long as we live in a free country then people are free to make bad decisions, even when it is against the greater public good. Psychologically, many if not most people with these viewpoints already feel marginalized by society for other reasons, economically, politically, religiously, other scientific fringe beliefs (he keeps bring up vivisection and patent medicines). By going against the grain of the popular common sense opinion, they feel empowered and it compensates for the other issues and internal conflicts in their fringe belief systems. Control is the issue for them, not science or outcomes or greater good. They already feel persecuted, ignored and marginalized and this is how they compensate.

Once again a quite astute observation osteo. But to me this is such a public health issue that I feel it's fair to say, if you choose not to get vaccinated, you don't get to put other vulnerable people at risk. So you can't board a plane unless maybe it's your private plane. You have to wear a mask in a public space etc. So effectively this is not about them in as much as it is about their impact on those around them. They are the reason this thing will linger. As to the rest of the world, yeah there are plenty places where the vaccine supply will catch up, and I predict enough people will either get it or get the acquired immunity by end of 2022. Yes variants pose a risk, but that risk is accelerated where it is raging wild. Most of these variants have emerged in countries where it raged, I. E. India Brazil etc. And they were not vaccinated as a population much by that time. They are random events but random event also happen with certain odds and when it's raging it's just more likely.

The voices of reason! If you read these two posts and you think you have good reason for a contrary view. Well. You're mistaken.

[GeneHickman]

Not worth debating any more here. I have often said, people who post have their minds made up already, it's not as if anyone here is asking whether or not they should get vaccinated. As long as we live in a free country then people are free to make bad decisions, even when it is against the greater public good. Psychologically, many if not most people with these viewpoints already feel marginalized by society for other reasons, economically, politically, religiously, other scientific fringe beliefs (he keeps bring up vivisection and patent medicines). By going against the grain of the popular common sense opinion, they feel empowered and it compensates for the other issues and internal conflicts in their fringe belief systems. Control is the issue for them, not science or outcomes or greater good. They already feel persecuted, ignored and marginalized and this is how they compensate.

Once again a quite astute observation osteo. But to me this is such a public health issue that I feel it's fair to say, if you choose not to get vaccinated, you don't get to put other vulnerable people at risk. So you can't board a plane unless maybe it's your private plane. You have to wear a mask in a public space etc. So effectively this is not about them in as much as it is about their impact on those around them. They are the reason this thing will linger. As to the rest of the world, yeah there are plenty places where the vaccine supply will catch up, and I predict enough people will either get it or get the acquired immunity by end of 2022. Yes variants pose a risk, but that risk is accelerated where it is raging wild. Most of these variants have emerged in countries where it raged, I. E. India Brazil etc. And they were not vaccinated as a population much by that time. They are random events but random event also happen with certain odds and when it's raging it's just more likely.

[ABizzle]

How do they work? For example if I wanted to marry call a girl over do I pay her before or after?

[GeneHickman]

Neither Jung nor Freud are considered as central to psychology as they once were; Freud's oedipal theories have been roundly dismissed by the psychiatric community. Rather than having a daddy fixation, do you think it's possible these women might be smart enough to know that older guys have more disposable income and are more likely to treat them in the manner they prefer? The ratio of old rich men compared to young rich men is exponential. There's an undercurrent of misogyny just in your question- you imply that these women are driven by psychological need rather than intellectual strategy. It doesn't take Freud to figure out that if you're going to fuck for money, fuck someone who has money.

Not sure I entirely agree with your reasoning. If that's the case, why is it that slightly older women say in their later 20's who one could argue have been around the block more and figured out the game better don't seem to act the same way. I have observed things close to what osteoknot talks about. Whether coincidence or real I will not know. However growing up without a father leaves a void in a child's life, girls included. I do think it manifests with sexual promiscuity and an affinity to older men. Heck Medellin is proving that out on a grand scale to our benefit.

[Osteoknot]

Here's a reason:

https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/07/us/ma...ths/index.html

He has what I call the "Burning House" argument. If someone's house catches on fire you let it burn and you don't try to put out the fire or save lives because you can't prevent all fires in the future. Obviously, a ridiculous and irrational viewpoint.

[Member #4729]

I've been mongering in Brazil for 7 weeks although just arrived in Colombia roughly a week ago. I quickly noticed that Relative to Rio de Janeiro, there seems to be more economic disruption here- in Bogota half the buildings are empty or for sale, and in both cities (Bog+Med), destitute people will literally beg for your scraps of food as you are leaving a restaurant. There was plenty of homelessness in Rio, but the amount of street begging, and in particular just for food by legitimately hungry people as opposed to some sort of aggressive panhandling by a street urchin- is much greater in Colombia.

My question to the experts here- pre-covid: was there the same presence of begging and desperation in the streets, or is this a new development?

A follow up question- if it is indeed the case that Colombians are suffering disproportionately- why have SW prices, particularly in Bogota seem to have risen to unrealistic levels? One would surmise the opposite to be true.

[Osteoknot]

So I'm curious what others think about what I have been observing.

And that is the only constant is change, reports are biased and out of date within a week, you never know what will be the latest trend or newest angle. Being observant as you are, and flexible gives you the best opportunities.

[Member #4729]

They're making a simple calculation that if they're going to fuck for money, they are going to fuck someone that HAS money. They also tend to like older guys because they're less likely to be violent.

I think this is absolutely true- as a business decision it's much more shrewd to seek out and cater to an older crowd. A lot of young mongers think that they should get discounts or freebies for being young / fit / attractive. With a semi-pro that might work- but a real pro doesn't have time for such nonsense.

On the flip side- "Daddy Issues" are a real thing- but its hard to put a number on it. My estimate would be that roughly 30-40% of the working girl population has unresolved Father issues stemming from neglect / abuse / etc and in general these girls with no father figure are more sexualized and promiscuous.

[MarquisdeSade1]

I didn't measure it myself, I had it tested several times. My IQ is 142. I am fine with that.

You seem happy to throw insults but you haven't given any details as to why you think my POV is stupid. Well, at least nothing that makes any sense. Please explain why you think my opinion is stupid. I am good at listening and always happy to learn. Hence my IQ.

Seriously you really must mean 42.

[JustTK]

By the end of the year, the vast majority of people will be vaccinated. .

Thats just so incorrect and demonstrates that you didn't really read what I wrote. You are clearly attacking a POV which I do not hold.

The vast majority of people will remain unvaccinated forever. You seem to be equating your own little societal bubble with what's going on in the greater world outside. Thats the problem. Unless you want to live in a world where you cut yourself off to most of the world and constantly have vaccines, your theory doesn't work.

[JustTK]

I truly wish the threshold of your intelligence was high enough to grasp the facts in this situation. Unfortunately, you don't have the level of IQ necessary to understand that you don't have the necessary level of IQ to understand the issue.
Dunning-Kruger Effect.

I didn't measure it myself, I had it tested several times. My IQ is 142. I am fine with that.

You seem happy to throw insults but you haven't given any details as to why you think my POV is stupid. Well, at least nothing that makes any sense. Please explain why you think my opinion is stupid. I am good at listening and always happy to learn. Hence my IQ.

[Osteoknot]

This report (something of a longish, but overdue disgorge).

But guys around here seem to like long reports. And I can be long winded and an attention-seeking myself. Your posts remind me why professional writing is always edited. The take-home for me is you seem to really enjoy yourself, and that's cool in this sport at any age.

[Osteoknot]

Again, I don't doubt that. I am not anti-science at all. But I am not putting 2 and 2 together to make 6. .

As I mentioned in a previous post, and as the people mention in your quotes, there are not enough people vaxd to prevent mutation. And since that is not even a serious goal of the international community, it will never be achieved. So we have a bunch of selfiish countries that implement policies that will kill their own citizens in the future and that will require buy-in to a never ending cycle of annual vaccines. Do you think that is a satisfactory outcome? I would rather learn to live with the virus, as millions and millions of people already have, myself included, no doubt.

Not worth debating any more here. I have often said, people who post have their minds made up already, it's not as if anyone here is asking whether or not they should get vaccinated. As long as we live in a free country then people are free to make bad decisions, even when it is against the greater public good. Psychologically, many if not most people with these viewpoints already feel marginalized by society for other reasons, economically, politically, religiously, other scientific fringe beliefs (he keeps bring up vivisection and patent medicines). By going against the grain of the popular common sense opinion, they feel empowered and it compensates for the other issues and internal conflicts in their fringe belief systems. Control is the issue for them, not science or outcomes or greater good. They already feel persecuted, ignored and marginalized and this is how they compensate.

[Turgid]

This report (something of a longish, but overdue disgorge) ...

Being under self confinement in sex prison I do appreciate such reports of distinction such that I don't really mind the vax vs anti-vax debate.