Sao Paulo Reports

[SamaRiding]

From a quick Whatsapp poll of some of the Clinicas (Abbobora, Carinas, Enjoy, Brooklin, Miruna, Indy) it appears they will be open on Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of next week (December 27 - 30), but closed this weekend and the following weekend inclusive of Friday.

In addition. I received some clinica messages that from Dec. 31 to Jan 4, they will be closed. Back to normal on Jan 5. So better to check before you go.

[DreamCarnarvon]

Just want to pass this information along to anyone who is interested. I recently received a whatsapp message from a new clinica called Unique SPA. Their grand opening day will be 12/20 at 1 pm. I didn't receive any info regarding price and I have no idea if this is one of those joints that only offers "massage + HJ" or provides FS. I will message them and see if I can get more info. I'm not in town at the moment so unfortunately I will not be able to go check them out myself.

Their address is Rua Miranda Guerra, 1052. They are literally 100 m from Clinica Brooklin (the new location). The nearest metro stations are Brooklin and Borbo Gato. From Moema its about 5.5 km Uber ride away.

There is already a topic on this clinica on gpguia. Apparently, Moises (who used to work at Clinica Kin) is the owner of the place. I never had a chance to talk to him but he's a good guys, greets every client and works hard. Definitely will be one of first places I will visit.

Prices are in line with other clinicas. 1/2 hour are $130,1 hour are $170.

[Nordico]

Looking at the airlines page for what is required before travel on Sherpa. Con:

Unvaccinated travelers are allowed in if they cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons and / or humanitarian reasons or travelers from counties where there are no vaccines available.

They must quarantine for 5 days at place of residence. I doubt anyone will enforce this. I really don't know how they would enforce the conditions above. Since I am full vaccinated and boosted, I could care less.

One odd thing ANVISA doesn't recognize the Moderna vaccine but it recognizes all the vaccines approved by WHO which includes Moderna.

Typical Brazilian confusion.

It's official now and in most part as you wrote in your post:

"The federal government published, this Monday (20), an ordinance that requires the presentation of proof of vaccination against Covid for travelers to enter the country".

https://www1.folha.uol.com.br/equili...ampaign=comptw.

"According to the ordinance, those arriving in the country by air must present to the airline responsible for the flight, before boarding, a printed or electronic proof of vaccination.

Vaccinations approved by Anvisa (National Health Surveillance Agency) or by the WHO (World Health Organization) or by the authorities of the country where the traveler was vaccinated will be accepted".

Like you I'm fully vaccinated and the booster shot scheduled.

[Nebulousity]

But how many garotas will have the booty on duty? That's the operative question. It won't be a "horny of plenty".

You make a reasonable point indeed Mr. Cane. Duly noted.

[The Cane]

From a quick Whatsapp poll of some of the Clinicas (Abbobora, Carinas, Enjoy, Brooklin, Miruna, Indy) it appears they will be open on Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of next week (December 27 - 30), but closed this weekend and the following weekend inclusive of Friday.

But how many garotas will have the booty on duty? That's the operative question. It won't be a "horny of plenty".

[Nebulousity]

From a quick Whatsapp poll of some of the Clinicas (Abbobora, Carinas, Enjoy, Brooklin, Miruna, Indy) it appears they will be open on Monday / Tuesday / Wednesday / Thursday of next week (December 27 - 30), but closed this weekend and the following weekend inclusive of Friday.

[Axel Heyst]

One odd thing ANVISA doesn't recognize the Moderna vaccine but it recognizes all the vaccines approved by WHO which includes Moderna.

Typical Brazilian confusion.

Anaggie, I just filled out an Anvisa declaration and the Moderna vaccine is most definitely included on the list of accepted vaccines. After selecting the Moderna, the next question was how many times (2 or 3) followed up with, what was the date of my last shot.

A. H.

[Anaggie]

I think this is the government's old ordinance, officially published December 8th, before judge Barroso intervened and said that it is not enough and everybody has to show proof of vaccination. Correct me if I'm wrong. That is how I understand it.

Looking at the airlines page for what is required before travel on Sherpa. Con:

Unvaccinated travelers are allowed in if they cannot be vaccinated for medical reasons and / or humanitarian reasons or travelers from counties where there are no vaccines available.

They must quarantine for 5 days at place of residence. I doubt anyone will enforce this. I really don't know how they would enforce the conditions above. Since I am full vaccinated and boosted, I could care less.

One odd thing — ANVISA doesn't recognize the Moderna vaccine but it recognizes all the vaccines approved by WHO which includes Moderna.

Typical Brazilian confusion.

[Nordico]

I think this is the new ordinance Nordico. Look at the document 2: proof of vaccination against COVID-19 part, its dated December 18th, 2021.

December 18th is the date when they planned to start implementing the ordinance. The date of the ordinance is December 8th.

Typical bureaucratic bullcrap. What's the point of implementing the vaccination proof when you have a blatant loophole that people can use to get around it? People can just enter without vaccination and "quarantine" themselves. They can't be that naive and think that these people who refused vaccination in the first place are all going to follow any rules after the fact that they got in.

Agreed and the Brazilian government couldn't care less if it is enforced or not. They gave the ordinance to protect themselves. Anvisa said that to protect the Brazilian people against covid, the government has to do this and that and for the fear that Bolsonaro would face serious charges for not doing his duty, they gave the ordinance. This is when the judge Barroso intervened to avoid that unvaccinated people would come to Brazil and maybe stay in 5 days quarantine.

(It's common that the airlines are responsible for checking all the documents needed to travel to an other country. If a passenger on his way to the United States throws his passport to the airplane's toilet and on arrival seeks asylum, the airline pays tens of thousands of dollars in fines and other expenses).

[Agpov]

I am reading some pages back out of interest and to conduct research properly, but in the meantime I have about 3 questions.

If a respected and knowledgeable Local like Rovnak could answer that would be great; anyone who knows anything knows far better than I do though, so all input is welcome.

1) Is there a way to get Brazilian citizenship or something similar, without speaking much / any Portuguese?

2) What are property prices like in a completely quiet area, which is still reasonably close to Sao Paulo (if there is any such area?

3) Around what proportion / percentage of the working girls would you say are STI-free, sterilized / on contraception, and up for BBFS (CIP)?

[DreamCarnarvon]

I think this is the government's old ordinance, officially published December 8th, before judge Barroso intervened and said that it is not enough and everybody has to show proof of vaccination. Correct me if I'm wrong. That is how I understand it.

I think this is the new ordinance Nordico. Look at the document 2: proof of vaccination against COVID-19 part, its dated December 18th, 2021.

[DreamCarnarvon]

It is official. Must show vaccination proof or quarantine for 5 days.

http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/e..._to_brazil.xml

Wonder how they are going to handle the quarantine and follow up.

Typical bureaucratic bullcrap. What's the point of implementing the vaccination proof when you have a blatant loophole that people can use to get around it? People can just enter without vaccination and "quarantine" themselves. They can't be that naive and think that these people who refused vaccination in the first place are all going to follow any rules after the fact that they got in. The equivalent would be giving the girl the money before the session and expecting the girl to perform everything that was requested of her. Once in a while, you might get lucky and get a honest girl. But the majority of time, she will take the money and run as fast as she can.

This is really a bad look on the part of the Brazilian government, especially the supreme court. They overruled the initial quarantine proposal saying that it will be impossible to implement the quarantines and follow ups effectively. So now how is this new requirement any different? Only in wording I suppose, "You can enter with or without vaccination but if just in case you happen to have your vaccination proof in hand, we are happy to take a look."

I'm not against people who are against vaccination and this doesn't affect me since I'm already fully vaccinated. But please Brazil stop the fake trying and make up you mind.

[Nordico]

It is official. Must show vaccination proof or quarantine for 5 days.

http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/e..._to_brazil.xml

Wonder how they are going to handle the quarantine and follow up.

I think this is the government's old ordinance, officially published December 8th, before judge Barroso intervened and said that it is not enough and everybody has to show proof of vaccination. Correct me if I'm wrong. That is how I understand it.

[Anaggie]

It is official. Must show vaccination proof or quarantine for 5 days.

http://losangeles.itamaraty.gov.br/e..._to_brazil.xml

Wonder how they are going to handle the quarantine and follow up.

[DreamCarnarvon]

MOA spa. The Indy Clinica people also took over the Kamna spa building in meoma last month. Full sex, no massage pretense. 200 r for one hour. Some of Indy girls sometimes go over. The building also recently renovated but the rooms are small..

Always a great thing whenever a new clinica opens up. Clinica Indy is one of my favorite clinicas. The owner, Amanda and the male manager there are competent and runs a tight ship. Having a competent and even a likable manager (s) really makes a lot of difference. Some of clinicas on the bottom of my list are there because of their management issues (ie lack of service, dropping the ball on pre-appointments, being too pushy) and not because of their lineups. Although not always the case, I do believe having a good manager = good lineup.

Needless to say I will be looking forward to visiting Spa Moah on my upcoming trip. Extra kudos for being located in Moema.