Rants, Stupid Shit and Coronavirus in Thailand

[Banana Boi]

Rankings of all the P4P cities I have been to in SEA. This is only on girls' looks and quantity of girls. Price is not relevant. This has nothing to do with service since that is huge YMMV everywhere anyways. In brackets are the number of visits I have made since 2016. Caveat Emptor I have not been to any of these places except Thailand since COVID began.

Jakarta (10+).
Pattaya (hometown).
Bangkok (40+ at least).
Singapore (3).
Ho Chi Minh (2).
Phnom Penh (10).
Kuala Lumpur (2).

Regarding Jakarta yes it's true it's mainly incalls but I think many guys on here are more than happy with places like Soi 6 in Pattaya. If you want girls to take home there are tons at iBar type places like CJs and Bats. Not sure if Sir Lancelot has been to those.

Now if you care to do things in addition to P4P, Bangkok is the best city followed by Singapore.

Here's a YouTube video of Bui Vien Walking Street this past weekend. Are BKK or Soi Buakhao currently rocking like this when you guys say they're busy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_L50wk-YTM&t=28s.

[Explorer8939]

I am looking for a link to the official announcement that pre-departure RT-PCR tests are no longer required on April 1.

[Sir Lancelot]

Personal ranking:

Jakarta: 9/10.

BKK: 8/10.

PP (circa 2018): 7/10.

HCMC: 6/10.

AC: 5/10..

It's an interesting debate. Personally I would rank Jakarta much lower. Yes it is very cheap and has some exceptionally pretty young girls in places like Classic, Travel, Pen J, Stadium etc, but it's a bang and go type place with far fewer long-time opportunities, the girls speak little English and I struggled to either find the girlfriend experience (a lot of girls don't kiss) or the pornstar experience (a lot of girls won't give oral). It's a great place to have cheap quickies with gorgeous girls but the sex cannot compare to other places in Asia in my opinion.

Your assessment of Angeles massively differs from my experience too. I found on multiple visits there were lots of young, pretty girls, available for long-time at about 60% of the price you'd pay in Thailand. All the girls speak excellent English and Filipinas are by far the most carnal girls I've encountered in Asia. In my opinion, Angeles is the only place that can rival Pattaya or Bangkok, although it's a gogo town with little else going on (the beauty of Thailand is the sheer variety of ways you can meet girls). The other places you listed like Ho Chi Minh and Phnom Penh I found to be interesting diversions, but no more.

[SteelBaton]

What a perfect timing for your reply, thank you. Just today I was going to ask about HCM Vietnam because in the original comparison between BKK, PP and AC, I somehow forgot to add HCM, which was also in my original list of destinations. How is the scene in HCM, is it restricted to a small mongering hub or is it big like BKK. Is there a lot of bars / places to pick girls and is the nightlife good. It sure looks good from RTFF of HCM, but how would you compare it to BKK. Thanks a lot for your reply!

I have spent lots of time in all of the above over the past decade (500+ girls) By far, Jakarta is the best for me. Tons of girls, lots of free lancers. Low prices ($35-$55 for FS) The city doesn't have a lot of tourism options, it but certainly good for 3-5 days if you stay near one of the shopping malls (Plaza Indonesia is the best). Easy to bring girls back to the hotels with you so pick a nice 4-5 star with a swimming pool. Indo women are generally pretty flexible, not arrogant, can be very pretty, and BB is often the rule. Fewer MILFs than other places. Lots of venue options.

Saigon was very good for a while for me, but by 2018, it seemed difficult to find young attractive girls. I had a network of a few mamasan who could deliver great girls. Occasionally possible to find an attractive girl in more recent times, but I never found a club or bar that had take-out girls. I don't think that's common/legal in Vietnam. Sometimes you can work the online forums or WeChat, but often I found that a horrible waste of time with lots of bait-n-switch. I much prefer a city that has dedicated venues where you can see, meet, and pick your girl. There are many massage options that usually deliver a happy ending, but I have tried multiple times to convert those in to FS and rarely succeeded. That said, of all the locations, Vietnam is the best for food and tourism. In Saigon or Hanoi, you can have some real fun at the KTVs if you know your way around and have a local friend, and don't mind spending money (half a dozen, half-naked or fully-naked 18-22 yr beautiful girls singing and dancing, lots of groping. No sex in the KTV, but most will go home with you for USD 100-150). I would say, for me, very high chance of a strike out in Saigon if I want FS with attractive non-MILF under 24 and I'm not doing the KTV route.

AC is exactly as described, a shithole of rundown bars and a ton of friendly MILFs. If you are ok with some baby damage and want nonstop maximum drinking and cheap sex with basic food and no ambiance, it's an awesome choice. Pinoys are really sweet, kind, women and they all speak more English than the other locations. But after three visits, I won't go back.

PP. Haven't been in 4 years, but the bars were pretty good back then. I like the city a lot. Good food, nice attractions. A Khmer girl often is fairly docile and sweet, like a lot of Buddhists. If I didn't love Jakarta so much, I would re-visit, maybe I should put it on the list for 2022.

BKK. The most "sex-forward" of places, lots of options and very unlikely to not find what you are after. Good food. Nice city to visit, lots of tourism options. Personally, I would try Phuket these days, but have never mongered there, no cant add an informed opinion.

Manila. You didn't put it on your list, but I would rank it above AC as more likely to find single girls, not only MILFs.

Personal ranking:

Jakarta: 9/10.

BKK: 8/10.

PP (circa 2018): 7/10.

HCMC: 6/10.

AC: 5/10.

The obvious choice is to go to two or three cities over 2 to 3 weeks if you have the time. The places are all within a few hours of each other.

[SinfullyKorean]

My hotel allowed me to partake in the breakfast buffet even though my result wasn't in yet. I don't think many of these hotels are very strict about enforcing the rules. Not that I suggest anyone break them and go out before the result comes in.

This thread had much discussion on the topic about 3 months ago, suggest you read there for background. Changes of which I'm aware are small: (1) The day 5 RT-PCR test is replaced with day 5 antigen test. (2) Starting April 1, you no longer need the pre-travel RT-PCR test.

Your day 1 SHA hotel package should include secure transportation from airport, RT-PCR test and the room. Be sure either food or room service is available. Since this is a special hotel package, I recommend booking directly with the hotel and skip sites like Agoda.com and Hotels.com.

[HorseTrader]

I am a little confused on how one does this. The SHA+ hotels must be prepaid along with the PCR test. And, we must sign up for a Thai pass.

Is Agoda the best way to do this (in other words, is there one stop shopping)?

I realize that the rules changed a few days ago (no pre trip test needed, but still need the test upon arrival). But the rules are still complicated.

This thread had much discussion on the topic about 3 months ago, suggest you read there for background. Changes of which I'm aware are small: (1) The day 5 RT-PCR test is replaced with day 5 antigen test. (2) Starting April 1, you no longer need the pre-travel RT-PCR test.

Your day 1 SHA hotel package should include secure transportation from airport, RT-PCR test and the room. Be sure either food or room service is available. Since this is a special hotel package, I recommend booking directly with the hotel and skip sites like Agoda.com and Hotels.com.

[Downandup]

I am a little confused on how one does this. The SHA+ hotels must be prepaid along with the PCR test. And, we must sign up for a Thai pass.

Is Agoda the best way to do this (in other words, is there one stop shopping)?

I realize that the rules changed a few days ago (no pre trip test needed, but still need the test upon arrival). But the rules are still complicated.

It's probably best to book directly with the hotel or else use Agoda and ensure that you search for SHA plus hotels. I booked directly with Holiday Inn for last December.

[Member #4813]

I am a little confused on how one does this. The SHA+ hotels must be prepaid along with the PCR test. And, we must sign up for a Thai pass.

Is Agoda the best way to do this (in other words, is there one stop shopping)?

I realize that the rules changed a few days ago (no pre trip test needed, but still need the test upon arrival). But the rules are still complicated.

[Monger234]

Don't forget HCM and Vietnam. My buddy another ISGer is there now. I think most of you know already who it is by his pics. He says they have Gogo dancers everywhere now and he was able to smash one the other night. He says he's having time of his life at very cheap prices 60% less than Pre-Covid. 1,000,000 2 hours of GFE from very very hot girls with the prettiest nipples. The online game is even better than Fiwfans for him. Best food in the world. He also apologizes that his LINE contacts all got lost because his Thai number was ported out and not backed up when he went to Vietnam. Those who need to contact him, already know who and how. He hopes to see some of us there soon because it's all open. Long live the Prince!

What a perfect timing for your reply, thank you. Just today I was going to ask about HCM Vietnam because in the original comparison between BKK, PP and AC, I somehow forgot to add HCM, which was also in my original list of destinations. How is the scene in HCM, is it restricted to a small mongering hub or is it big like BKK. Is there a lot of bars / places to pick girls and is the nightlife good. It sure looks good from RTFF of HCM, but how would you compare it to BKK. Thanks a lot for your reply!

[RacShack]

Depends how important the "tourism" part of your trip is and what you want to do in the non mongering time. Of the 3 BKK is the most interesting from a general tourism perspective and AC is the least. BKK has temples, culture, great dining, clubs etc. AC is a dilapidated third world shit hole with nothing to do outside fucking and drinking. Its ok for 3-4 days at most. PP is not quite as desolate as AC but not as good as BKK. For mongering if you want friendly English speaking girls with BBFS the norm, then its hard to beat AC, even with the higher prices and lower mileage in bars than the good old days. BKK has a large selection of pretty girls, but feels more commercial. Haven't played in PP so can't compare but seems again half way between AC and BKK.

Don't forget HCM and Vietnam. My buddy another ISGer is there now. I think most of you know already who it is by his pics. He says they have Gogo dancers everywhere now and he was able to smash one the other night. He says he's having time of his life at very cheap prices 60% less than Pre-Covid. 1,000,000 2 hours of GFE from very very hot girls with the prettiest nipples. The online game is even better than Fiwfans for him. Best food in the world. He also apologizes that his LINE contacts all got lost because his Thai number was ported out and not backed up when he went to Vietnam. Those who need to contact him, already know who and how. He hopes to see some of us there soon because it's all open. Long live the Prince!

[Expat American]

Hey folks,

Considering a mongering + tourism trip next month but not able to decide between BKK Thailand or PP Cambodia or AC Philippines.

I have travelled a lot and mongered across the globe, so I am not a newbie. But I have not been to BKK or PP or AC.

I have RTFF on all these cities, but still need advice from someone who has been to all these cities and can provide a first hand insight.

Appreciate your help and as always I will contribute to the forum after I visit one of these destinations based on your suggestion.

Depends how important the "tourism" part of your trip is and what you want to do in the non mongering time. Of the 3 BKK is the most interesting from a general tourism perspective and AC is the least. BKK has temples, culture, great dining, clubs etc. AC is a dilapidated third world shit hole with nothing to do outside fucking and drinking. Its ok for 3-4 days at most. PP is not quite as desolate as AC but not as good as BKK. For mongering if you want friendly English speaking girls with BBFS the norm, then its hard to beat AC, even with the higher prices and lower mileage in bars than the good old days. BKK has a large selection of pretty girls, but feels more commercial. Haven't played in PP so can't compare but seems again half way between AC and BKK.

[Monger234]

Hey folks,

Considering a mongering + tourism trip next month but not able to decide between BKK Thailand or PP Cambodia or AC Philippines.

I have travelled a lot and mongered across the globe, so I am not a newbie. But I have not been to BKK or PP or AC.

I have RTFF on all these cities, but still need advice from someone who has been to all these cities and can provide a first hand insight.

Appreciate your help and as always I will contribute to the forum after I visit one of these destinations based on your suggestion.

Cheers!

[Rodwint2]

Agree ATG is sufficient, but it must be properly documented. Pain in the ass.

If someone finds a specific place in lower Sukhumvit area, please post. I've found many online, but haven't dug far enough to find details such as specific location, price, and appointment details.

Exactly my question. What is the ATG test? Is that a ATK test or PCR test? The CDC requirement is for an "antigen" test. So what that means is an issue.

[OlderMan4U]

Can anyone who's recently arrived in Thailand give their experiences in the process? Specifically, the Test and Go scheme.

I was originally not going to Thailand because of all the required tests and all but wanted to hear first hand experiences first.

So my questions:

1. I see that there is a PCR-RT test given to you on first day of arrival. Where is that done? At the airport or at the hotel?

2. Which leads me to, can you take taxi to hotel in Pattaya and get tested there instead of Bangkok?

3. How long did it take you to get your first test result back?

4. I also see that there is a day 5 test required, but this one can be rapid antigen based and can be done by yourself. How was that process?

5. It appears that you have to spend one night in a specialized hotel after the day 5 test. Did you stay your entire time in Pattaya at the same hotel you took your test? It seems like a pain to me to have to book a separate hotel on day 5 only.

6. How strict are the police about wearing face masks?

Thanks!

[Turgid]

I understand some are tired of hearing about the old days since those days are no longer relevant. It not that hard to scroll past those posts as we do for other topics that don't interest us.....

I have never understood guys complaining about posts. Most of the time I am on ISG I'm scrolling and stop only to read something that has piqued my interest.