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  1. #26759
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    If I don't negotiate it beforehand, they seem to not even care how nice my hotel is (5 star suite), and are already to leave to leave or argue. (Russians / EE).
    Yeah, EE/Russians are less accommodating, especially when compared with SEA WGs. God endowed the former ones with killer bodies and then, to balance the scales, blessed them with ship attitude where they don't take the aforementioned vessel from anyone. LOL. Also, I find that SEA women and even CIS ones, for that matter, are more docile and pliable, if you know what I mean.

  2. #26758
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    Most of the times I've never brought up when the damage would be payable i.e. upfront or afterwards and I'd say in roughly 80-90% of the cases, the girls have gone with the flow. For when things hadn't been settled beforehand, a few girls did demand it once we were back in the room or during early stages of foreplay. In such situations, I tell them to take a good look at the room they are in (mostly suites in 5* hotels) and ask if they really think that I am going to stiff or short change them. This approach always works and reassures them.

    Of course, there have been cases where the girl was absolutely adamant about moolah being dispensed upfront and wouldn't budge and I've gone ahead regardless.
    I've taken the negotiation approach. I was indeed able to find women who are ok with being paid afterwards (Vietnamese from York hotel), and ok with BBBJ included, once I negotiate it all beforehand. If I don't negotiate it beforehand, they seem to not even care how nice my hotel is (5 star suite), and are already to leave to leave or argue. (Russians / EE).

    Hilariously enough, some WGs do not budge on BBBJ or being paid afterwards, even when the ratio is like 50 women to 1 man.

    The only issues with negotiating (without a manager involved) is many WGs don't know English well (I don't blame them) and some will absolutely lie. So at the end of the day, I prefer quantity and from there I will re-book the ones I really like.

  3. #26757
    LOL! I can only imagine the look on a girl's face when present with this payment schedule 🤪.

  4. #26756

    Good points

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    For my Dubai visit, having a session with a Russian/EE was up there on my list, but my outing at Czar wasn't upto expectations, as I've highlighted in my report on it. As others have reported before, even the best laid plans can fall by the wayside when faced with the realities on the ground. This brings me to Jules.
    Point 2 is the bulls eye, has happened a couple of times in SE Asia. One reason I find the more detailed MR reviews (if you can spot genuine ones) / FRs useful and has less "surprises".

    With WG, it is hard to find the same fish in the sea.

  5. #26755

    Hilarious

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    In a lighter vein, maybe, some sort of a pay as you go plan can be negotiated and it might be structured like this:

    LFK/DFK - 10%.

    HJ - 10%.

    BJ - 20%.

    DATY/FIV - 20%.

    FS - 20%.

    COF/CIM - 10%.

    Other Misc. - 10%.

    What do you guys think? Take care everyone.
    LOL. Reminds me too much of our IT projects.

  6. #26754
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    Most of the times I've never brought up when the damage would be payable i.e. upfront or afterwards and I'd say in roughly 80-90% of the cases, the girls have gone with the flow. For when things hadn't been settled beforehand, a few girls did demand it once we were back in the room or during early stages of foreplay. In such situations, I tell them to take a good look at the room they are in (mostly suites in 5* hotels) and ask if they really think that I am going to stiff or short change them. This approach always works and reassures them. I guess they realize that a guy who can spend more on a room for a night, than their damage + tip combined, is going to be as good as his word. This is Human Psychology 101, IMHO. And, I feel, this would be true for other hobbyists as well.

    Of course, there have been cases where the girl was absolutely adamant about moolah being dispensed upfront and wouldn't budge and I've gone ahead regardless. But, these were few and far between
    I agree with your points. As a general rule (based on my personal experience of course), if you're seeing the girl the first time, more often than not she will ask for payment upfront and I understand that. There are some real douchebags out there that have ripped the girls off, I have heard some really shitty stories so can understand them being leery about this. However, I totally agree with you that where you reside, how you dress, etc goes a long way in alleviating the girls concerns about getting ripped off. When a few girls recently came to my apartment, they could see branded stuff and the nice view / location and hence one told me that she knew she wouldn't be getting ripped off. So that does help. But if a girl asks for payment upfront the first time you're seeing her, I think it's OK because they have had some really shitty experiences with some punters. Once I repat a girl and some trust is developed, payment is never mentioned and she knows I'll slip her 'gift' in her bag at the end.

  7. #26753
    Quote Originally Posted by WildLaw  [View Original Post]
    Not sure how it works in Dubai yet but I ussualy hold back 10-20% cash by putting it by the bedside or table in plain visibilty and tell the WG if everything goes great they get the that plus some tip. Not saying all WGs agree to this but when they don't and I am 50-50 about how its going to go I don't go ahead with them.
    Most of the times I've never brought up when the damage would be payable i.e. upfront or afterwards and I'd say in roughly 80-90% of the cases, the girls have gone with the flow. For when things hadn't been settled beforehand, a few girls did demand it once we were back in the room or during early stages of foreplay. In such situations, I tell them to take a good look at the room they are in (mostly suites in 5* hotels) and ask if they really think that I am going to stiff or short change them. This approach always works and reassures them. I guess they realize that a guy who can spend more on a room for a night, than their damage + tip combined, is going to be as good as his word. This is Human Psychology 101, IMHO. And, I feel, this would be true for other hobbyists as well.

    Of course, there have been cases where the girl was absolutely adamant about moolah being dispensed upfront and wouldn't budge and I've gone ahead regardless. But, these were few and far between. The times that this has happened, the girls didn't disappoint and made sure that they earned their keep, but that might just have been the luck of the draw.

    With the Jules WG, the situation was such that, in the moment, it was tough for me to take a call, although there was no damage paid upfront. It can be difficult to think straight when you are horny af and the girl has already dropped her clothes and is proceeding to shave off her meow stubble. LOL. Add to this the fact that I'd been up for more more than 17-18 hours by that time, many of which had been spent traveling, and my brain was in snooze mode. I have shared my experience to highlight what can transpire in a real world situation and the lessons that be learned upon subsequent reflection, which can then be implemented to make sure that the times to follow are more pleasurable.

    In a lighter vein, maybe, some sort of a pay as you go plan can be negotiated and it might be structured like this:

    LFK/DFK - 10%.

    HJ - 10%.

    BJ - 20%.

    DATY/FIV - 20%.

    FS - 20%.

    COF/CIM - 10%.

    Other Misc. - 10%.

    What do you guys think? Take care everyone.

  8. #26752

    Palm Jumeirah hunting

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Yes, you will have an issue there. I live in Business Bay and when I take a girl from Deira, they sometimes frown when I tell them where I live and I get the "very far" response, which isn't really true but for them it is as they prefer to go to places near the place you pick them up. For BB, I add 50 to 70 AED taxi money unless I am driving and hence pick and drop them. For the area where you will be located, be prepared to add at least 100 AED for taxi money which I think is fair, but some may ask for more. Some may not even know where the Palm is.
    That's a shame. I will have to get creative, and most likely end up paying more, which doesn't make sense, I feel like most WGs live in TECOM / Business bay anyway.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun12  [View Original Post]
    I expected the entrance to be 1000 aed as some posters have said a table is required but I was surprised when I was just charged a 100 aed entrance. I enter the club it does have some potential for sure. It is not packed per say like czar or Moscow but the quality is definitely higher.
    Very nice, thank you for the info. A couple of members have now visited Club Blu, but like you, they already had a girl. 100 aed entrance +plus 9's and 10's, Club Blu might have just moved to the top of the list of places to go when I visit.

    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    Got in touch with them in the afternoon hours, more with an intention to while away time than to actually indulge. The replies from them came back fairly quickly.
    That's a disappointment. I was hoping to use Cat agency to see Daisy for a daytime quickie. Could you remember the names of the girls you inquired about via their online line-up?

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  9. #26751
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]

    This session is not a reflection on Jules but on the WG and I had a couple of excellent sessions with other Viets from this place, which I will report on soon. Take care everyone.
    Agree, I punt a few times a month but have been doing it so long that have got to that shameless point to discuss every detail before handing the cash and if there is any deviation happy to call it off completley. Not sure how it works in Dubai yet but I ussualy hold back 10-20% cash by putting it by the bedside or table in plain visibilty and tell the WG if everything goes great they get the that plus some tip. Not saying all WGs agree to this but when they don't and I am 50-50 about how its going to go I don't go ahead with them.

    Your experience seems down to the WG and wouldn't be fair to reflect on Jules like you said. Could have also gone the other way around where the WG would have given you more than what you asked for. I certainly have learned a few new moves from WGs over the years purely due to this fact.

  10. #26750

    Cat Agency

    Got in touch with them in the afternoon hours, more with an intention to while away time than to actually indulge. The replies from them came back fairly quickly.

    Asked for recent pictures of the girl that I liked the most from their catalog and she appeared to be a different person altogether in the short video that they sent; clearly the photos in the catalog are heavily photoshopped. Also, the girl was clothed in the video, so asked them to share something naughtier. In the video they sent this time around, the girl was wearing lingerie and doing a slow seductive dance while covering her face with her hands. There was no way of knowing whether it was the same girl in both the videos. I had an uncanny feeling that they might be trying to pull a fast one.

    Asked about another girl, who would have been my second preference, and the results were along the same lines. Didn't confront them about this as had no interest in partaking. Unfortunately, I cannot share the names of the girls as I have since deleted the chat. Now, I know some fellow hobbysits have had good experience with them but, personally, I had a feeling that things may not be on the up and up with them. Just wanted to share my limited interaction with them. Don't read too much into it as YMMV.

  11. #26749

    I really appreciate it.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeKarnavic  [View Original Post]
    Excellent report and some wise tips for everyone. Wish we all follow your thought process and not think by small head all the time.
    Quote Originally Posted by PopamRaj  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for the very helpful report and tips. Worth putting up on the fridge with a magnet! Haven't been out to Jules for ages. Somehow the Chinese girl invasion there just doesn't work for me. Am tempted to make a visit based on your report.
    Quote Originally Posted by Rocko20  [View Original Post]
    Great reports and thanks for sharing. I agree with your lessons about tempering your expectations, WGs lying about services, hitting home your expectations during negotiations, and to not make emotional decisions you might regret later. Well stated.
    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    Great report and EXCELLENT advice! One should always list their lessons learned and try their utmost NOT to repeat them.
    Thank you for the positive feedback everyone. After years of staying away from the hobby, the way I conducted and felt about things this time around was a revelation to me.

  12. #26748
    Quote Originally Posted by AnonMous  [View Original Post]
    For my Dubai visit, having a session with a Russian/EE was up there on my list, but my outing at Czar wasn't upto expectations, as I've highlighted in my report on it. As others have reported before, even the best laid plans can fall by the wayside when faced with the realities on the ground. This brings me to Jules.
    Great reports and thanks for sharing. I agree with your lessons about tempering your expectations, WGs lying about services, hitting home your expectations during negotiations, and to not make emotional decisions you might regret later. Well stated.

  13. #26747

    MAkes sense BLood red

    MAke sense BLood red.

    Why do we have to spend a bomb for a 5-minute fun towards end the same amount can have a 3-course meal mongering.

    Quote Originally Posted by BloodRed  [View Original Post]
    You just need to look around. There are so many places in Dubai. You can get a hot girl for full night for 1000. Women that quote ridiculous prices are just plain stupid in my opinion because there is so much pussy in Dubai that you can just move on and look else where.

  14. #26746
    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun12  [View Original Post]
    Anyway on my way out, I struck a conversation with a 6.5-7 in terms of looks. She spoke great English, was funny and offered 1000 for 3 hours. Hell, why not? She stayed with me for 6-8 hours and service was great. I guess there is still hope for Dubai.
    You just need to look around. There are so many places in Dubai. You can get a hot girl for full night for 1000. Women that quote ridiculous prices are just plain stupid in my opinion because there is so much pussy in Dubai that you can just move on and look else where.

  15. #26745

    Recent escapades in dubai

    Hi,

    Long time lurker here. I have received excellent information on this board so I thought I would contribute. I landed in Dubai a couple of days ago and normally organize meetings with my regulars. Though this time, I thought I would explore a bit. A lot of recent posters have talked about club Blu so I decided to visit it. I went to the club on a Tuesday. I expected the entrance to be 1000 aed as some posters have said a table is required but I was surprised when I was just charged a 100 aed entrance. I enter the club it does have some potential for sure. It is not packed per say like czar or Moscow but the quality is definitely higher. Unfortunately, I did not inquire prices as I got a text from one of my regulars that she is in town. I head over to czar to meet her and to have a couple of drinks. It is packed more so than usual. Quality ranges but there is potential. I meet my regular and go to her manager to leave. She quotes me 2500 aed for 4 hours. I was baffled. This is a manager that for the last 6 months has been charging me 1200-1500 for 4-6 hours. I guess Dubai is busy and managers don't care about their regulars. I obviously chose to pass. For that kind of money, I would have had better luck at BLU. Maybe other people can post? Are rates noticeably higher? Because while quantity of wgs has increased, the quality seemed the same. Anyway on my way out, I struck a conversation with a 6.5-7 in terms of looks. She spoke great English, was funny and offered 1000 for 3 hours. Hell, why not? She stayed with me for 6-8 hours and service was great. I guess there is still hope for Dubai. Overall though, I was put off by the night as I hate inflation. If the few 8's at czar are charging that much then I am done with that place. I plan to check out blu. If prices are similar, I would rather have the luxury model over the regular.

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