Angeles City

[Dg8787]

Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.

Hey! What about me on my next trip?

[Docwiltro]

In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.

Here's a Soya girl (Jhoana) who might be the kind of girl you're looking for: 19 yrs old, quite busty, likes to party and is very enthusiastic.

[NapaSlapper]

I go to AC prolly 3 or four tines a year for quite some time now. It is quite convenient and cheap for me to get there as I live on Negros Island in PI and it is a short flight to Cebu then Clark. I was AC in the 1980's heydeys (with my Uncle Sam) which I recall with great fondness and much more enthusiasm. It is a shadow of what it was then but it is still a desirable mongering destination despite increased costs. The Korean effect, etc.

Look at all the places that have disappeared, fellas. Surabaya's sin city in Indonesia. Curacao's Happy Camp in the Caribbean. EDSA in Manila. The casas in Manila and Cebu. Et cetera. I have been to all of these Classic locations and many more which have vanished like a fart in the wind. So, count your blessings, fellas. You can still get laid here for under a hundred bucks and her pussy is so tight and wet and willing.

The last girl I was with there, from Angel Witch, came three times while I was fucking her. No shit, man. Her face was prolly a 6 but her body is a solid 8. Damage was 4 K. And then she brought three gfs over from Angel Witch and they took turns massaging me, and swimming in Orchid Inn's pool. Then one of her gfs, a 7, starts to blow me quite expertly so I gave her 2 K. Where else in the world does this happen? Please tell me and I will go there.

In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.

Glad to hear that you can still find some enjoyment in todays angeles city, I think the secret is to live either in angeles or somewhere near bye in order to keep costs per girl low.

For those that have to fly half way across the globe at great expense might see it differently though, and when all costs factored in flights, hotels, insurances etc those same under 100 usd girls for the close bye guys could work out to be 4-500 usd each for the guys from us, uk, europe once all expenses taken into account.

In truth I would say that by the time one takes out the better looking angeles girls which are mainly drinks only girls, cherrie girls and asian only girls then what's left for the westerner is low quality and even at under 100 usd is extortionate in price.

New years eve this year which is the peak day in peak season saw many western bars with no customers many of these bars also closed down well before midnight so I'm not sure of your claim that angeles is a desired location is in the slightest true for many punters.

You ask where else can guys can get sucked and fucked like in angeles, Well prostitution in Europe is everywhere just like it is in Angeles just at slightly different venues, no need to look far for paid sex in Europe either, online, classified ads, many dating (sex) apps, strip clubs, lap dancing clubs, massage salons, men only clubs, sauna clubs etc.

Let's remember the cost of travel from Europe to Angeles for 7-10 days would be a minimum 4,000-5,000 usd when all expenses factored in, I'm sure with 4,000-5,000 usd one could fuck near models every day for the same 7-10 days duration in Europe.

The Rest of Asia, just like Angeles pros exist in Thailand, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos at similar if not less cost like for like.

My take is that Angeles is what it is, I find the guys that are complaining the least out of my Angeles friends are those that live there already and are willing to greatly lower their expectations / standards when it comes to available girls.

Now on to prostitutes supposed orgasms, just because a girl is moaning and pulling fuck me harder faces does not mean she is not play acting, in truth she could just as well be thinking what she is going to cook her kids for dinner while she's moaning.

On to tight pinay pussies, never found pinay prostitutes to be tighter or looser than pros of any other nation, considering by the very nature of their profession most of these girls have fucked thousands of guys, have had multiple child births so not sure anything left to be tight about their pussies.

Warm wet pinay pussy, this is where I worry, many pinay pros have pinoy husbands, pinoy boyfriends, pinoy lovers, some girls have all 3 at the same time add on a few paid customers per day and that warm wet feeling pinay pussy might just be a few fluid ounces of newly inserted sperm from multiple doners just before she turned up at ones door and not in fact that she excited to see us.

Anyways each to their own, if some are happy in Angeles then I'm happy for them.

[D Cups]

I go to AC prolly 3 or four tines a year for quite some time now. It is quite convenient and cheap for me to get there as I live on Negros Island in PI and it is a short flight to Cebu then Clark. I was AC in the 1980's heydeys (with my Uncle Sam) which I recall with great fondness and much more enthusiasm. It is a shadow of what it was then but it is still a desirable mongering destination despite increased costs. The Korean effect, etc.

Look at all the places that have disappeared, fellas. Surabaya's sin city in Indonesia. Curacao's Happy Camp in the Caribbean. EDSA in Manila. The casas in Manila and Cebu. Et cetera. I have been to all of these Classic locations and many more which have vanished like a fart in the wind. So, count your blessings, fellas. You can still get laid here for under a hundred bucks and her pussy is so tight and wet and willing.

The last girl I was with there, from Angel Witch, came three times while I was fucking her. No shit, man. Her face was prolly a 6 but her body is a solid 8. Damage was 4 K. And then she brought three gfs over from Angel Witch and they took turns massaging me, and swimming in Orchid Inn's pool. Then one of her gfs, a 7, starts to blow me quite expertly so I gave her 2 K. Where else in the world does this happen? Please tell me and I will go there.

In AC her tits may be small but if you look hard enough you can find a B cup or C or even D if you are willing to lower your facial and other body standards. I used to have some regulars there but they moved on and have to be replaced by new talent which is readily available. Cheers.

[Pute Nut]

Good to see a realistic post interspersing the tales of non-stop condomless debauchery with AC's "top models" LOL.

No condom, I'm sure its possible with some girls, probably the type of girls that are not very popular and don't have too much choice, popular girls might have choices so prefer customers that want to fuck only with condom, as I have previously said I am super careful with pros so insist on using condoms.

I think it's becoming more common that the girl clarifies this point before going out, happens quite often to me. I tend to prefer lower mileage so perhaps my sample is skewed. Hygiene seems also to be stressing condoms in their mandatory lectures. Condom or no condom is a personal choice; you may not catch the big one going sans French letters, but AC can certainly put you out of action with some other nasties.

[Goferring]

But then came along the changes in law and the bar raid years where multiple bars had been raided, multiple bar owners arrested, multiple mama arrested, multiple bars never allowed to open again, why, because they were set up in sting operations with foreigners working for the police handing over marked money in exchange for bar fines, once the marked money had been received by the bar the raiding team moved in.

So now days when one pays the large pesos early work release to a bar it is strictly to allow the girl to leave the bar early, it sure does not mean one is paying to have sex with said girl..

It's surprising that this didn't lead to the end of the prepaid pricing in AC and introduce a barfine+girl's fee model like Burgos etc. That would have also seen AC's poor performance complaints disappear over night too.

I remember straight after the raids in Subic that the mamas and barstaff would not even discuss EWRs or fines, saying that that was a private discussion between the guy and the girl. Unfortunately, this lead to immediate price rises as girls decided that they were worth much more than they were previously paid. I'm not sure if the payment discussion is still with the girl or if it's returned to being defined by the bar.

Enjoy. G.

[NapaSlapper]

It seems to me that the ridiculous barfine prices should drive a healthy market for sneak outs and freelancers. Any insight on freelancer pricing? Also, do AC bars still let you get money back if the girl doesn't deliver?

I hate getting chicks who insist on condoms. Have they become more or less prevalent nowadays?

Yes indeed some of the quoted girl prices are indeed ridiculous.

Sneak outs from bars, yes its possible to meet girls in their own time but don't try to get a girls number in the bar unless one wants to face problems with security, best way is to barfine said girl the 1st time from the bar and then get her number back at the hotel before she leaves and see if girl would be willing to meet in her own time maybe on her day off.

Online girls, I am generally not a fan of Angeles online prostitutes, why because of the general low quality and all the mucking around until you get the one in a hundred that actually looks like her online profile photos, or for the girl that one earlier chatted to on cam and made visiting arrangements only for a completely different girl to turn up at the door, usually 5/10 years older and 40/50 kg heavier, all in all too much wasted time for my liking.

Money back for non performers, Yes multiple years ago this was sometimes possible.

But then came along the changes in law and the bar raid years where multiple bars had been raided, multiple bar owners arrested, multiple mama arrested, multiple bars never allowed to open again, why, because they were set up in sting operations with foreigners working for the police handing over marked money in exchange for bar fines, once the marked money had been received by the bar the raiding team moved in.

So now days when one pays the large pesos early work release to a bar it is strictly to allow the girl to leave the bar early, it sure does not mean one is paying to have sex with said girl.

Try to return a girl to the bar for any reason will have the owner or mama firmly advise that prostitution in the Phil's is highly illegal and comes under the human trafficing laws which carries a mandatory jail sentence of 20 years without parole for the bar owner or the punter caught in prostitution activity, therefore the bar will insist they only accepted payment for early work release of the girl and definitely not to have sex with the girl as that would be highly illegal, so no refunds given as that would be admitting to prostitution.

No condom, I'm sure its possible with some girls, probably the type of girls that are not very popular and don't have too much choice, popular girls might have choices so prefer customers that want to fuck only with condom, as I have previously said I am super careful with pros so insist on using condoms.

[Goferring]

It seems to me that the ridiculous barfine prices should drive a healthy market for sneak outs and freelancers....

You have touched upon the elephant in the room: Barfines are hardly the only way to get laid in AC. If punters don't like them, then grab a streetwalker, online girl, mall sales girl, waitress after-work, afternoon sneakout before work etc. Guys have even brought tea to China with a byo from Manila. The optiona are endless.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

The downside, no English and mostly bam-bam thank you Mam kind of system.

For a pretence of GFE and LT both ID and PH girls are keen to act as a 'tourguide' around town with extra services at the end of the day. Costs are minimal and sources can be online or just striking up a conversation on the streets / in the mall. I'd agree that English can be a struggle at times but that's half the fun if you find the right girl.

Enjoy. G.

[Locamotive]

Damn you sound just like me! But I don't spend $5,000 USD on trips. Way way way less. But indeed Jakarta blew me away with the Quality of ladies and the food is excellent. Please do post your report because I am dying to hear a new boots on the ground report.

Some of us are not that lucky, you must be much much closer. East coast US tickets to Manila are now $1500 and up and that's buying a few weeks out, unless you choose 40 hours to get there and that aint happening. Figure room 50 bucks a night and that's about standared at AirBnB for something decent. (Grammercy or Jazz example) 50/14 nights 700 bucks. Could you go cheaper sure but I'm not staying in a dump. You are looking at 22 to $2500 bucks just to get there and lay down. Girls and eating gets you past $5000 with no problem and that's being conservative with the partying.

Retiring there is going to be much cheaper, I'm living for that day.

[ShadowJ]

It seems to me that the ridiculous barfine prices should drive a healthy market for sneak outs and freelancers. Any insight on freelancer pricing? Also, do AC bars still let you get money back if the girl doesn't deliver?

I hate getting chicks who insist on condoms. Have they become more or less prevalent nowadays?

Seems in your haste to prove a point you have overlooked the clear fact of short time v long time that I and many others have pointed out to you.

Lets look at the facts,10 years ago all girls stayed long time for the 28.5 usd, normally long time was minimum10 hours but many girls stayed much more time.

28.50 usd devide by 10 = 2. 85 usd the girl 10 years ago earnt per hour spent with punter, yes a measly 2. 85 usd an hour.

As many have said most girls in todays angeles demand 90 usd for short time max 1 hour or less if punter finishes quicker.

Yes that's a whopping 90 usd per hour earnt by girl spent with punter, what's worse is that you are happy with this increadible price increase.

In antisipation to your next post in reply I will file any claims made by your good self of all my girls stay long time now in the same bin as your earlier claims of you were able to fuck 8 girls daily in your youth.

[NothingElse1]

Damn you sound just like me! But I don't spend $5,000 USD on trips. Way way way less. But indeed Jakarta blew me away with the Quality of ladies and the food is excellent. Please do post your report because I am dying to hear a new boots on the ground report.

I cancelled all yesterday. My flight alone to AC was going to be $1350. Wild Orchid at $80 a night x 14 (too poor to afford ABC) was going to be $1120. I like to pamper myself when it comes to food (I like my steaks and Italian places) and I usually have company. I drink quite a bit and add to it the lady drinks and 5000 pesos bull% and next thing you know $6000 was not going to take me very far. The worst is finding yourself with fuglies after you spent so much. I am fine overspending a bit if I spend my vacation with a few hotties.

I am all set for Jakarta now. Flight was half price, 4 star hotels for half the price of ABC with daily breakfast. World class malls to kill some time in and 1000's of steakhouses and restaurants. The brothels and massage spas with literally 1000's of Indo girls. The downside, no English and mostly bam-bam thank you Mam kind of system. I am ok with that because I never get to bang any Pinay lookers like Indo, just because they are hard to find or there are maybe half a dozen in every 100 girls. In Jakarta, You walk into these bordellos and you have 30 - 40 girls and every one of them is finger licking good. 9's and 10's are available if you are willing to spend a little. Problem with AC is even if you are willing to spend, you can't find them or the few that exist are usually with a group of Korean punters.

At 400,000 a pop ($25) - 15600 exchange, that is a bargain I cannot find anywhere else in SEA. Add another 200 K tip and it is still a steal, that's $40 total. Some high end places may charge twice that which I am still ok with considering you are getting models for a short time. Not Soi 6 and for sure not AC can a man do a model for $40-60. There are no models in AC even if I am wiling to pay a premium. I still love my Pinays though.

I will post my detailed report once I land Friday. I will be staying at a bordello for the first week to get everything out of my system, and then move to a nicer hotel in case I end up taking LTs and want some serenity and normal time to myself. I compiled a list which should be more than enough for 2 weeks. The plan is to do a spa every afternoon and in the evening a lady bar with a live band and banging on site. If I do find a gem who I click with, then I have no problem keeping her for 2-3 million a day. I am for sure staying away from the usual hooker places in South Jakarta where the girls are past their expiry dates or who have been hooking for years. (M Block for sure even though it has been dead for a while). Add to it CJs and BATS. Most girls there are in their 30's or have been around the block for several years. The plan is to stick to the old town. My last and only trip was in 2014.

Who knows, I may still end up in AC if things get better, I still have 10,000 pesos from 5 years ago. Enjoy and stay safe.

[NapaSlapper]

I'll bite. What are the recent BKK / Patts barfine prices (including tips) for LT? Keep in mind its harder to communicate with the girls there.

Disagree, NS. IMO the decline in girl quality started before that. 2009-ish, and by 2016 I didn't want to go back. Having been to AC a few months back, I was impressed by the better quality this year than pre-covid. The price increase, no so impressed. However the situation is what it is. I believe that there is enough there for warriors to find some joy, even with the K's skimming the best from the top.

Pic: From the Westy/AC archive. Obviously there is another gal in the room taking that pic. Whether at that time's price, or today's price, would paying today's price be too much to get a pair of happy and nawty pinas in your room for this? Even for just a few hours, and without pics, this might be gold for some gents. A shower together. BJ/sex with #1 while #2 takes pics. Shower with #1 while #2 snaps selfies. Chicharones, tequila and TV for an hour. Another session, roles reversed, sexing #2 while #1 takes pics. Another shower and you take both of them to Tropix or Atlantis to watch the dance show and have another drink. Walk them back to their bar, high on life.

Thanks for your input westie, yes agree the decline in Angeles girl size looks and attitude has been Declining over many years.

As I did not travel to Thailand to monger but on business so did not partake in the flesh.

But in honesty from what I saw walking around near the open bar areas of both pattaya and Bangkok and comparing the girls to angeles then in all honesty the thais win hands down for youth, looks and slim body so pointless to compare prices between the two as such girls do not exist in todays Angeles.

My mention of my recent trip to Bangkok and pattaya is to make aware that while western punters have voted with their feet not to visit Angeles both Thai destination bars were packed with punters, for one destination to be packed and one destination to be empty of punters then that sugests to me those punters are happy with the quality and prices of Thailand and not so much with Angeles.

As a side note I stayed in great hotel near nana at 50 usd per night including buffet breakfast, similar hotels in angeles would have been at least double if not treble like for like.

[NapaSlapper]

300% divide by 3 minus 5 = 95%.

$62.50 minus $28.50 = $34.00. $34.00 divided by $28.50 = 119% over 10 years.

Seems in your haste to prove a point you have overlooked the clear fact of short time v long time that I and many others have pointed out to you.

Lets look at the facts,10 years ago all girls stayed long time for the 28.5 usd, normally long time was minimum10 hours but many girls stayed much more time.

28.50 usd devide by 10 = 2. 85 usd the girl 10 years ago earnt per hour spent with punter, yes a measly 2. 85 usd an hour.

As many have said most girls in todays angeles demand 90 usd for short time max 1 hour or less if punter finishes quicker.

Yes that's a whopping 90 usd per hour earnt by girl spent with punter, what's worse is that you are happy with this increadible price increase.

In antisipation to your next post in reply I will file any claims made by your good self of all my girls stay long time now in the same bin as your earlier claims of you were able to fuck 8 girls daily in your youth.

[WestCoast1]

A recent short trip to Bangkok and pattaya showed me that the bars were heaving with both punters and girls, maybe taking a short trip yourself will have you also changing your mind about the prices and quality of angeles girls.

I'll bite. What are the recent BKK / Patts barfine prices (including tips) for LT? Keep in mind its harder to communicate with the girls there.

Lets also be honest and say that there is not an angeles girl of today that would have been employed by any bar 10 years ago due to size, age, looks.

Disagree, NS. IMO the decline in girl quality started before that. 2009-ish, and by 2016 I didn't want to go back. Having been to AC a few months back, I was impressed by the better quality this year than pre-covid. The price increase, no so impressed. However the situation is what it is. I believe that there is enough there for warriors to find some joy, even with the K's skimming the best from the top.

Pic: From the Westy/AC archive. Obviously there is another gal in the room taking that pic. Whether at that time's price, or today's price, would paying today's price be too much to get a pair of happy and nawty pinas in your room for this? Even for just a few hours, and without pics, this might be gold for some gents. A shower together. BJ/sex with #1 while #2 takes pics. Shower with #1 while #2 snaps selfies. Chicharones, tequila and TV for an hour. Another session, roles reversed, sexing #2 while #1 takes pics. Another shower and you take both of them to Tropix or Atlantis to watch the dance show and have another drink. Walk them back to their bar, high on life.