Sao Paulo Reports

[Zeyto]

Besides using Google translate for asking about rates and services before doing the deed, have any you guys tried using it to have a conversation with it? I'm learning the basic phrases before I head out there in 2 weeks but I know for a fact I'll be using the app a majority of the time. Has it been awkward trying to converse with the women you find attraction but don't speak a lick of English? Is it worth the headache if you don't understand each other?

[Zeyto]

Yes Ferraz, not ferocious.

Thanks brotha, I'm going to message her and see if her availability lines up with the days I'm there. Again thanks for the recommendation!

[KcDark]

It depends on where you are. I have been almost robbed twice but I practically like living there and walk everywhere. By almost I mean like my phone dropped to the ground while the robber trying to grab it out of my hand so it was not successful. I also walked to Centro at night often but I have never been robbed in Centro. There are a lot of drug users and homeless people in certain areas and those areas are less safe at night too. One reason there are less reports because there are less tourists. There was an arm robbery reported in Jardim Paulista before that a store owner was killed by men on moto similar to what Steve reported.

Pattaya / Bangkok have more variety, cheaper, and world class food too but they are not at the same price range of places you have in mind. Similar type of food in SP is very limited in comparison.

This is the body type I like in Brazil but I would not say it's common. Both worked at Clinica. I had the negra on her first day. She was so sensitive and aroused so I couldn't help to give her a DATY which I usually don't do. I got a sore throat and out for a couple of week as a result. I also got the tattooed one when she just started working and she gave me a CIM to finish. I know there are a couple spinners regular at Scandallo, Luanna and Bianca if I remember the name correctly. I opt for taller and slender kind like the ones in the picture. If you can't find it in Scandallo, it will be more difficult to find it elsewhere.

Your taste is similar to mine Nounce. I prefer a slim woman with some natural curves. While I can see how beautiful Thai women are, I am not turned aroused by them which is why I am slow in visiting Thailand. However, I have heard that the women there are very "traditional" compared to many women around the world which is a great quality.

[Nounce]

CanadaWet, just curious. Other than statistics, why do you feel unsafe in SP? Did something happen? As a fellow Canuck, I felt zero issues while in SP for a week solo, daytime or nightime. And I have been to Thailand.

And what type of food do you eat? SP has many more world class restaurants, bars, coffee shops, etc than Pattaya.

I know there are lots reports of pickpocketing and the like in Rio in Copa, but after reading 100's of pages in this thread, haven't really heard too much that SP is something to worry about. While Colombia CTG / MDE / BOG is totally different.

F.

It depends on where you are. I have been almost robbed twice but I practically like living there and walk everywhere. By almost I mean like my phone dropped to the ground while the robber trying to grab it out of my hand so it was not successful. I also walked to Centro at night often but I have never been robbed in Centro. There are a lot of drug users and homeless people in certain areas and those areas are less safe at night too. One reason there are less reports because there are less tourists. There was an arm robbery reported in Jardim Paulista before that a store owner was killed by men on moto similar to what Steve reported.

Pattaya / Bangkok have more variety, cheaper, and world class food too but they are not at the same price range of places you have in mind. Similar type of food in SP is very limited in comparison.

This is the body type I like in Brazil but I would not say it's common. Both worked at Clinica. I had the negra on her first day. She was so sensitive and aroused so I couldn't help to give her a DATY which I usually don't do. I got a sore throat and out for a couple of week as a result. I also got the tattooed one when she just started working and she gave me a CIM to finish. I know there are a couple spinners regular at Scandallo, Luanna and Bianca if I remember the name correctly. I opt for taller and slender kind like the ones in the picture. If you can't find it in Scandallo, it will be more difficult to find it elsewhere.

[Stinky Squid]

Hey brotha just wanted to ask is it Ferroz or Ferraz? I found Iza Ferraz on Twitter and it seems like it might be her that you're talking about. Thanks!

Yes Ferraz, not ferocious.

[Maelstrom]

From my last 3-4 trips, I've been at Scandallo every day they were open. From my observations, I would guess the normal number of girls in attendance would be approximately.

Note: (NA = wasn't there during that time):

Monday: before 6 pm 20-40,6 to 10 pm 50-80, after 10 pm NA.

Tuesday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Wednesday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+ (250+ on special live musical guest nights).

Thursday: before 6 pm 40-60,6 to 10 pm 85-150, after 10 pm 175+.

Friday: before 6 pm 30-50,6 to 10 pm 75-125, after 10 pm 150+.

Saturday: before 6 pm NA, 6 to 10 pm 60-100, after 10 pm 125+.

Often times they have special life musical guests (Usually on Wednesdays), usually popular local Brazilian bands or international DJs. On those nights, admission / consumption can be higher and the total can be up to R800! They also charge a R500 fee to get a table in the "disco" area where the band plays. On those special nights, I've seen 250+ girls and tons of guys. Taking a girl up to the room or taking a girl for a "saida" out of the club can result in 10-15 minutes wait on line at the hotel / saida cashier!

As beauty is in the eye of the beholder, the following is just MY PERSONAL OPINION. I generally agree with the Western and East Asian standard of beauty. I like the type of girls you generally see in Vogue, Victoria's Secrets, old SI Swimsuit Issues before they became "inclusive" or girls on high fashion billboards for LV, Hermes, Gucci and the like.

Therefore, my tastes lean toward the tall, skinny, girls with a flat stomach (doesn't need a 6 pack), long shapely legs, beautiful face, eye and smile. I am not a breast man, but prefer a nice be-see cup and don't need a big bunda, but like at least a firm bubble butt that fits their frame.

Even though I prefer tall girls, I also like a petite spinner sometimes. I also like curvy girls occasionally, as long as they have a hour glass figure with thin waist and their dimensions are proportional. I also usually prefer younger women age 29 and under.

My taste is a bit wide-ranging. It can go from a runway model to a more busty VS Vixen to a SI Swimsuit cover model to a K-pop / Asian movie star to a Telenovela actress. I also like girls of all races, hair and eye coloring, as long as they fit the above. It just depends on my mood and also our chemistry when I chat them up.

I DO NOT like muffin tops, thick thighs or cellulite around the ass / thighs. Slutty, US Porn Star look, with fake lips, tits and ass also does not really interest me.

Based on my preferences, I feel on a pure OPTICS level, I think Scandallo beats all the options in.

1) Brazil (all other venues in Sao Paulo and everything in Rio de Janeiro).

2) Western European FKKs (Globe / Aphrodisia in Zurich, Sharks / Oase in Frankfurt, Goldentime, Living Room, Oceans and Samya in NWR).

3) Madrid clubs (Vive and Pigmallion).

4) Tijuana (HK Club).

5) Thailand (The Pimp in Bangkok, clubs on / near Soi 11 like Insanity, gogos in Nana / Cowboy and Walking Street gogos in Pattaya).

6) Jakarta (both Malio Hotel and Maliboro Club, Classic, King's Castle, and CJ's).

7) Hong Kong (Wan Chai FL clubs and strip clubs).

I've been to all of those other venues within the last 3-4 years, often multiple times. The QUANITY, QUALITY and VARIETY, in terms of height, shape, size (I've also seen a few "little people" at Scandallo), ethnicity, and looks (innocent, cute, model pretty, slutty, sensual, etc.), in Scandallo is unrivalled.

On any given night, you can find a hot girl with Caucasian, Irish / Scottish, Germanic, Latina, Western European, Eastern European, Slavik, Asian, Mulatto, and Black Features.

On a "classy" level, I also feel Scandallo wins out. You are more likely to find professional working models, artists, professionals, graduate students, higher-end sugar babies, etc. At Scandallo than those other venues. The club is also very posh and upscale, with a large selection of top shelf liquor and a nice restaurant offering varied cuisine, as well as a good sushi bar.

I understand some of the above venues are different in terms of setup, but at the end of the day, they all have a few things in common that I find useful and important:

1) You see the girls in the person (and in some of the other venues, totally in the flesh!

2) You have the option of buying them a drink and chatting them up and vet them.

3) It's basically a point and shoot situation, as few will turn you down outright, but a few still might do so.

Some might find it more challenging to go to Brazil. Some might prefer a cheaper venue. Some might prefer a venue that has a higher percentage of darker skinned girls. Some might prefer a venue with mostly "trashier / sluttier" girls (although plenty of those in Scandallo too! Some might prefer a venue where negotiating on the "gift / donation" for the girl is less of an issue. Some might prefer a venue where more girls speak English, German, etc.

Not everyone will agree with my sentiments and that's okay. Different strokes for different folks.

For me, Scandallo is the best one stop shopping for hot P4 P action, especially if you have the funds to spend and it isn't logistically too challenging for you to get there compared to the other options.

I used to be a Colombia / Mexico guy and I agree to all the above 100% my experience. We share the same taste in women as well, I lean more towards athletic tall (volleyball track and field body types).

I just want to add my experience to your post:

I have gone to Scandallo around 20 x and I do notice a difference in how I'am approached quantity and quality of women wise based on how I dress and carry myself. The times I came in looking more hood / street with backward baseball cap and wife beaters got the lower tier girls approaching and hotter ones not even responding. Come in dressed up with a nice collar hugo boss shirt and pleaded pants its night and day.

I also enjoyed Casa Rao found a few 8's on the weekends. Overall I will be focusing more of my mongering towards Brazil and other cities to check out like Curtiba and Porto Alegre. I also had quite a bit of luck with cold approaches mainly the younger looking cute baristas around Rio and SP. (Zero Porto here) Getting them to kiss was easy but getting pass first base was a no go on short notice. (civvies).

[Jackob54]

Got cash changed today at Seattle Tourismo in Jardim Paulista. Official rate was 4. 97 and I changed at 4. 90. Was able to get it all in 200 R bills. Gave them the new $100 bills only.

At Anaggie. Many thanks for your information.

[Zeyto]

I was with a super cute girl couple of nights ago. She goes by the name Iza Ferroz, has a twitter, she loves what she does, you can feel it. And she is super cute. I don't know if it was special with me, but it was absolutely worthy of the label GFE. In fact, it was so GFEish that I felt the sparks fly and she ended up leaving early so that we wouldn't start going down the wrong emotional path. I had told her of my girlfriend plans and she didn't want to get into the middle of this. What a cutie but full anal and deepthroat play was on the menu. Almost nothing was negated.

Hey brotha just wanted to ask is it Ferroz or Ferraz? I found Iza Ferraz on Twitter and it seems like it might be her that you're talking about. Thanks!

[Anaggie]

If you are staying in Jardim Paulistsa, I used Seattle Tourism last time and I got a pretty decent rate that was close to central bank rate. I don't remember what the difference was exactly but I will change this Friday and will report back the rate.

Got cash changed today at Seattle Tourismo in Jardim Paulista. Official rate was 4. 97 and I changed at 4. 90. Was able to get it all in 200 R bills. Gave them the new $100 bills only.

[Stinky Squid]

I am always looking for special activities. And I am now done for the time being. Today I started my final purge treatment of any lingering bugs and wil move in with my new girlfriend to be monogamous and bare back. So I can leave you with my ideas to try.

I was with a super cute girl couple of nights ago. She goes by the name Iza Ferroz, has a twitter, she loves what she does, you can feel it. And she is super cute. I don't know if it was special with me, but it was absolutely worthy of the label GFE. In fact, it was so GFEish that I felt the sparks fly and she ended up leaving early so that we wouldn't start going down the wrong emotional path. I had told her of my girlfriend plans and she didn't want to get into the middle of this. What a cutie but full anal and deepthroat play was on the menu. Almost nothing was negated.

Then last night I was with a certain Yara from Santo Amaro, she also advertizes with the word "facefuck" on photoacompanhante. She is genuine. Not that cute as that Iza, but she was quite nice with me. Talked a little too much, rsrs but very good oral skills, not once did I get scratched by teeth. Smoker, which prevented me from going too much into kissing, but she was quite open for it.

For another treat for the fetish freaks like me. If you want hardcore PSE with a pregnant playboy cover model, and miss bumbum award winner, who has notoriety on the press for certain drug related sentences, look no further than Flavia Tamayo, alias Pamela Pantera. I think you can see her number on photoacompanhante. I have missed her by a fluke yesterday. I was really curious. The only thing somewhat off-turning is her voice. She probably took androgens for body building at some point and her voice turned very low.

Finally, please someone try to get an appointment with Neca Santos. She is a riot. +55 11 9xxxxx669. That's the girl who does facefuck with slapping and whatnot, and the only problem is actually getting an appointment with her. She seems to be very disorganized and also selective. In my case she had rejected me several times even when we were just about to firm the appointment. Probably doesn't like my profile foto. Too bad. But I don't have time to worry about it, and yet I am really curious what you guys might experience.

If you do any of those, please reply with your review.

With that, I shall be off into the sunset for the time being at least. Fare well brethren.

[The Cane]

All,

Quick question. I just spent 10 days in Rio and several of the girls told me that they leave in early May and do not return until late September / October due to weather and lack of clients. Other mongers told me that RJ is not really worth visiting during the off months due to so many fewer girls. My question is, does SP have seasonality in terms of # of girls in the same way as RJ? My guess if 'no' due to it being a mega global city with constant business visitors, unlike RJ, but thought I'd check. Even when I'm dating in the US I notice that there are more women on apps during the summer than winter, at least in cities with seasons like Chicago and New York..

The first time I went to Sao Paulo it was during their winter months (summertime up here) and I swore that I would never go down there again at that time of year. It wasn't because of a dearth of talent. Oh no, that wasn't it at all! I had a blast, but I really didn't like the chilly weather, especially because my hotel lacked adequate climate control (among other problems like being in the airport's flight path). So, I would say that as long as the cool weather won't be a bother to you just don't worry about it. It's a huge city with plenty (lots) of girls "on the stroll" year-round.

[Chicago85]

All,

Quick question. I just spent 10 days in Rio and several of the girls told me that they leave in early May and do not return until late September / October due to weather and lack of clients. Other mongers told me that RJ is not really worth visiting during the off months due to so many fewer girls. My question is, does SP have seasonality in terms of # of girls in the same way as RJ? My guess if 'no' due to it being a mega global city with constant business visitors, unlike RJ, but thought I'd check. Even when I'm dating in the US I notice that there are more women on apps during the summer than winter, at least in cities with seasons like Chicago and New York.

-Chicago.

[Wayne Roberts]

I don't think scandalo is that great either. I enjoy the club more than the girls there because that place only attracts a certain type of girls and not a lot stay there for long. It has a very very very high turnover rate. Especially now that the prices for them increase to 300 to enter, they are now charging or asking more than before to make it worth it for them to come. Also by increasing the client entrance fee, it also decreases the amount of customers that they see at night. Before, a girl told me that she was able to see multiple clients at night but now it's about just one therefore inflation at this club is a lot higher for everyone. A lot of the girls who were regulars before have now gone somewhere else.

Which clubs are they going to?

[Fewdie]

I don't think scandalo is that great either. I enjoy the club more than the girls there because that place only attracts a certain type of girls and not a lot stay there for long. It has a very very very high turnover rate. Especially now that the prices for them increase to 300 to enter, they are now charging or asking more than before to make it worth it for them to come. Also by increasing the client entrance fee, it also decreases the amount of customers that they see at night. Before, a girl told me that she was able to see multiple clients at night but now it's about just one therefore inflation at this club is a lot higher for everyone. A lot of the girls who were regulars before have now gone somewhere else.

Don't get me wrong, I had an amazing time with the Scandallo girls, and I hope to return soon. But beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I like spinners and I abhor fake asses. I went to Scandallo, Castarao, and many of the clinicas, so I have a sense on what is on offer in SP. I agree that quality has dropped some in Thailand post-COVID, but for me the quality of the average Pattaya gogo girl still easily beats the average SP girl, because almost all the Pattaya gogo girls are spinners. But don't get me wrong, I thought Scandallo was great, and much more enjoyable than the FKKs, which is more of a wham-bam-thank-you-mam experience.

There is one important thing that is missing in your analysis: safety. Here there is a major difference. Pattaya (and Bangkok) is so much safer than Sao Paulo. You can walk around anywhere, anytime and not worry about getting mugged. This makes the environment much more relaxing and enjoyable. I would go to SP strictly to visit Scandallo and Balboa, since Castarao and the clinicas do not have enough spinners for me. I don't see what else there is to do in SP besides going to Scandallo and Balboa. SP is strictly a mongering destination for me. In Pattaya, there is more to do, great food, and most importantly it is much more relaxing due to the safety factor.

Safety, spinners, and topless gogos weigh heavily in my ranking.

To each his own. We both like SP and Pattaya. Taking all the factors together, you prefer SP. I prefer Pattaya. But we will both be visiting both in the future.

[Fewdie]

Leave the poor wet Canadian alone! That's just the way of how they pronounce it in Canadia.

You would go to Sao Paulo strictly to visit "Balboa"? Well, he seems like a nice guy he does LMAO! And who is "Castarao" LOL! Yes, to each his own. And for me Thailand could never ever be better than Brazil because for me from the optics standpoint those little flat ass, flat chested Thai girls can't hold a candle to a banging Braziliera's curvy body! Yes, to each his own!