Medellin Reports

[Anthony2023]

Let me correct you there a bit bro, HELP in Rio (now closed) was the largest of these type of clubs.

Here are few.

Spassos Bangkok (basement of Grand Hyatt) girls there are dressed like they are going to a formal (mostly 8-10's), they have a strict dress code, live music and very upscale.

Brixx Singapore (grand Hyatt basement again) '. Girls from all over the globe including Colombianas.

Hong Kong -forgot name.

You will find fine ass Colombianas at these clubs and 3-4 years ago, they were asking for 100-300 USD. (They were usually the only fine ass latinas in a mostly Asian club)

Blue Marlin San Jose Costa Rica -much like gustos but not as upscale as the ones listed above. Blue marlin was the club that inspired me to travel to Colombia, the finest girls in there were all Colombians asking back then 100 USD, Problem?? There were some 5-6's at best also asking for Cien!

Awesome bit of information, thanks I'm going to have to save this for my travels. I asked this question before but nobody posted anything. I've heard of similar places in Thailand and Costa Rica, sounds awesome.

But my point is, I don't get why gustos get such hate, at least guys like me have that option in gustos who want something more than just the typical escort / stripper experience. I enjoy being able to sit down and have a drink, listen to some music and have the option to physically pick out who I want to talk to, maybe have a drink with and possibly take home, instead of going online & taking my chances on hoping a girl looks like her pictures and will be good company.

[Carrib]

Why are you so opposed to gustos? Did you have a bad experience there?

I think it's an awesome establishment, even if you're there just for the eye candy. Like I mentioned in another post, tell me me where else in the world will you find clubs like gustos or Mot / lleras bar that feel like "regular" clubs but are full of hookers?
Gustos is a great concept and I hope it remains for a very long time.

Let me correct you there a bit bro, HELP in Rio (now closed) was the largest of these type of clubs.

Here are few.

Spassos Bangkok (basement of Grand Hyatt) girls there are dressed like they are going to a formal (mostly 8-10's), they have a strict dress code, live music and very upscale.

Brixx Singapore (grand Hyatt basement again) '. Girls from all over the globe including Colombianas.

Hong Kong -forgot name.

You will find fine ass Colombianas at these clubs and 3-4 years ago, they were asking for 100-300 USD. (They were usually the only fine ass latinas in a mostly Asian club)

Blue Marlin San Jose Costa Rica -much like gustos but not as upscale as the ones listed above. Blue marlin was the club that inspired me to travel to Colombia, the finest girls in there were Colombians asking back then 100 USD, Problem?? There were some 5-6's at best also asking for Cien!

[Mr Enternational]

Like I mentioned in another post, tell me me where else in the world will you find clubs like gustos or Mot / lleras bar that feel like "regular" clubs but are full of hookers?

LOL. Dude are you serious right now? There are tons of hooker pickup bars and discos all over the world. In Pattaya there are AT LEAST 10 on Walking Street alone. I will name a few off the top of my head. 808, Candy Shop, Myst, Lucifer, iBar, Insomnia, Republic, Rave, Jannarat, Nasha, Flexx, Tunnel, Mixx. That is 13 on one street off the top of my head and there are more than that on that same street. This is in no way a Medellin Parque Lleras thing. 2 fucking small ass clubs? Really?!

[Chicago85]

But pretty soon that German car is going to look good sitting in the driveway due to exorbitant maintenance and pitfall costs, while that Korean joint is still getting you to your destination. I remember my brother could not even open the trunk of his BMW without buying a $400 battery from the stealership. You can run down to Walmart in the middle of the night to get a $90 battery for the Hyundai and put it in yourself in the parking lot. I check Consumer Reports for reliability and other things before I buy a car; same as I check ISG before running around haphazardly to a new mongering place. My sister also bought a Mercedes a few years back and I just shook my head. Right now it is sitting in the driveway rusting away while she is getting to where she needs to go in a VW Beetle.

Mr. E,

I appreciate all of your contributions and think you get my point. Despite your brother's long-term issues I have had some great luck with BMWs. Granted I now have a Toyota (4 Runner ltd), but if I didn't need something for my kayaking, camping, and surfing gear I'the have a 5-Series.

But I digress For a short term lease or weekend (ie girl for an hour or night) I'm taking the BMW, Porsche, Ferrari or maybe a a classic Corvette (ie Blonde MILF with fake tits LOL) if I'm feeling adventurous. Not a fucking 15 year old rusted Hyundai or Kia with smelly interior and stains. Beyond this I acknowledge that spending more does not assure a good sessions, but I do my due diligence beforehand and speak decent Spanish so I usually have good rapport with the girl, and therefore a nice experience.

[JustTK]

To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.

BUt in Gustos, you just have Hyundais with a BMW sticker.

[Anthony2023]

If you are stepping into gustos for any reason, you are a sucker.

Why are you so opposed to gustos? Did you have a bad experience there?

I think it's an awesome establishment, even if you're there just for the eye candy. Like I mentioned in another post, tell me me where else in the world will you find clubs like gustos or Moët / lleras bar that feel like "regular" clubs but are full of hookers? Not strip clubs. Try walking up to any girl at a club in vegas or even in Mexico and ask her how much? And see what happens. Lmao.

Gustos is a great concept and I hope it remains for a very long time.

[MiamiBoy1]

LMAO If I could, I would. I don't have a method, nor do I have game. Tpp 10 or 20% is subjective, but yes I would say it's usually top 20% in my eyes. I don't have a special sauce to share other than what I've already said. On days I do Gustos, I don't arrive earlier than 10:30. And I don't know I've stayed later than 1:30. I do drink a bit. (Insert 10 at 2, 2 at 10 joke here) But I am extremely passive. I will almost always wait for the girl to approach me. Don't get me wrong, I don't settle. But simple eye contact and a smile will bring them over soon. I'm patient. And yes, I've lost out on "the one" more than once. That's the price I pay with my method. But I feel like them coming to me gives me at least a little leverage. I usually buy them 1 drink. 2 if I enjoy the banter. My spanish is sufficient to get by with basic conversation. I'm very chill. If there is a secret, that might be it. These girls are comfortable with me. I don't haggle with them. To me, it's counterproductive. I'm not going to ruin the mood over $20. If I don't like the price, I just say no thank you, that's more than I want to spend. I don't have a set price in mind. I go with the flow. I think everyone can understand that if I really enjoy the company of a girl, I'll spend more on her than one that needs to convince me. But I will say 600 k is my cap.

And for what it's worth, I've found they are more likely to negotiate time vs dollars. If I enjoy her company, I don't want an hour. I don't need an all nighter. But I'd rather let things develop vs walking in the door and dropping my pants.

As I said in my original post, I'm sure there are guys that don't want what I want. But I have no secret sauce. I'm sure luck plays apart as well. But I've never paid over 600 k and never ran into a 60 minute clock watcher.

You don't have a secret sauce because there is none. Your ability to negotiate depends more on external factors rather than on your game or looks:

What time is it? Is the night still young and there are still good chances of finding a paying client or the venue is about to close soon?

Has she already sessioned with someone else? Or has someone else scheduled after?

Guys to girls ratio on that particular night? Maybe too many girls and very few gringos, or vice versa?

Her personal circumstances. How desperate is she? Maybe she has been sick for a couple of weeks and just got back to work to earn some money to pay her past due rent? Or maybe she was visiting a family out of town and just got back in town and needs money for whatever reason? Etc.

How hot is she? Is she in demand and being hit by almost every gringo walking in or just standing in the corner and nobody even paying attention to her?

Only after all of the above, your game (smile, drinks, small talk, etc) comes into play.

[Elvis 2008]

Agree. I find it hilarious that in some FB groups and ISG pages guys preach that you should never pay more than 150 k or 200 k because that's what they paid 10 years ago when they first came and the girls are too stupid to follow the exchange rate. Straight up naive idiots (guys, not girls). The same guys will tell you that 'a girl is a girl,' none are worth more than 200 k ($42) and all will eventually accept that if you stick to your guns. To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.

I agree, and it is not just the car / woman but the circumstances. Do you want to fuck someone on a cardboard bed with the smell of latex and chlorine in the air?

And then there is the pulling the knife, drugging you, and / or stealing from you. Yeah, that is worth saving a few bucks.

Okay, yeah, we have the money but they have the knives, drugs, and police on their side.

There was this guy on here who had a chick pull a knife on him over two fucking dollars. Then there is the guy who was pissed a cabbie tried to rip him off of $2. That same guy tried to bail on a hooker in Bogota and the hooker stole his phone.

Two of the guys pushing for low prices have admitted fucking fat women, pregnant women, and midgets. They think they are getting a bargain but I would not fuck women like that for free.

You are a guest in their country and you think you are going to use your money to overpower them and get them to take less? LOL. Like that is going to work.

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That is up to 6 trips to Colombia for free.

And guys are worried about $2 or an extra $20 for a hooker? How dumb is that?

[Talon]

I've been in Medellin a week and tried Bumble every day but so far I've only gotten one match, with a girl that lives 80 km away and who won't be visiting for another two weeks. I'm pretty sure most chicas just use it to advertise their instagram and never actually use the app. Too bad as there were some 9's and 10's on it.

Meanwhile I still regularly get friend requests on FB, over 700 at this point. Just yesterday an 18-year-old messaged me out of the blue, "Do you like chicas?" Why yes, yes I do. She quickly asked two followup questions: Would I pay for sex and would I like to meet her? It's unusual to have a chica be this forward. She wanted 300 mil + 20 for taxi which I thought was on the high end but her photos were decent and I didn't feel like haggling. I agreed and we met in the afternoon. I was pleased that she was good as her pictures, a thin young morena who still had a nice set of perky tits. She quickly shed her top, I sucked on them for a bit, then she sucked me off for a few minutes. I stripped off her clothes (no baby damage and only a single small tattoo, nice), threw her on the bed and spent 10 minutes eating her out. She must have not had that happen often as she was a little hesitant at first, but as I worked my tongue she mellowed out and began grinding into my face. Her legs squeezed my head as she had her first orgasm. Triumphant, I sat up and stuck my cock in her raw. She made no objection. I then spent the next hour pounding her in various positions: missionary, doggie, cowgirl, pronebone. She really liked the last one and I would periodically feel her pussy squeeze each time she had an orgasm. I really wanted to nut in her but alas my body wouldn't cooperate so I had her finish me off with a BJ and HJ. Definitely one of my more memorable encounters and after she left I spent the rest of the day feeling like an absolute boss. Will definitely try her again--after I've had a few days to recover!

[Mr Enternational]

To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.

But pretty soon that German car is going to look good sitting in the driveway due to exorbitant maintenance and pitfall costs, while that Korean joint is still getting you to your destination. I remember my brother could not even open the trunk of his BMW without buying a $400 battery from the stealership. You can run down to Walmart in the middle of the night to get a $90 battery for the Hyundai and put it in yourself in the parking lot. I check Consumer Reports for reliability and other things before I buy a car; same as I check ISG before running around haphazardly to a new mongering place. My sister also bought a Mercedes a few years back and I just shook my head. Right now it is sitting in the driveway rusting away while she is getting to where she needs to go in a VW Beetle.

[MiamiBoy1]

Agree. I find it hilarious that in some FB groups and ISG pages guys preach that you should never pay more than 150 k or 200 k because that's what they paid 10 years ago when they first came and the girls are too stupid to follow the exchange rate. Straight up naive idiots (guys, not girls). The same guys will tell you that 'a girl is a girl,' none are worth more than 200 k ($42) and all will eventually accept that if you stick to your guns. To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.

It all comes down to this. Do I think she is worth her asking rate? Do I see any value in the transaction? If I go to Gusto, and see a true stunner, 10/10, hanging out by the bar, and then she approaches me with a sexy smile, we talk, drink, make out passionately, she rubs on my dick, and then she convinces me to take her home until the morning and says I can do everything I want to her, then yes, most likely, I will pay her rate, whatever that rate is. This is a hypothetical scenario, that never happened. But in reality, I don't see any 10's, nor 9's. Maybe a few 8's on a good day, and a bunch of 7's. I do not see any value in paying 200-300 USD to fuck a 7. If I wanted to fuck a 7, I could easily to it elsewhere for much cheaper. Also, I don't care about paying premium for "convenience" because I am not a weekend warrior and I can afford to pass on any girl and go home with blue balls, because I have plenty of time to fuck on a different day, I'm not desperate to get laid. This is why I rarely visit Gusto, and when I do, I'm not alone but with my buddies who want to check it out or have a drink.

[Chicago85]

Do you really think that if you ask to get quoted in pesos you are going to get like 50% off or something? These girls might be dumb but they do track the exchange rates (due to the fact that Gusto caters to foreigners) and will charge you accordingly. Also, how many of ISG members do frequent Gusto? Very, very few..

Agree. I find it hilarious that in some FB groups and ISG pages guys preach that you should never pay more than 150 k or 200 k because that's what they paid 10 years ago when they first came and the girls are too stupid to follow the exchange rate. Straight up naive idiots (guys, not girls). The same guys will tell you that 'a girl is a girl,' none are worth more than 200 k ($42) and all will eventually accept that if you stick to your guns. To this I ask, if 'a car is a car,' why do people regularly pay more for a BMW than a Hyundai? Both will get you to the destination. I myself prefer the BMW.

[RedIce7]

PREACH!! This should be pinned or Sticked to the top. WE have the leverage not them. I'll tell you, if she starts off in dollars it usually a bad sign however what I like to do is always ask in Pesos FIRST!!

Don't give them anywhere to go be like "cuanto cuesta en colombiana pesos?

Let us band together as well! We should come up with a snazzy pricing chart. I can build one that we put how much you should be paying if anyone would like. Sort of like how we hav the map.

There is another angle of this, some believe if they overpay they will get better treatment but probably they will get much worse. Overpaying by vast margin makes you look like a weak stupid gringo and lowers respect for all other gringos. I believe if girl tries to charge you way over market place is a sign of disrespect and such offer should be declined or countered to fair market price. In Thailand when girl doesn't want to go with you she will give you ridiculous overinflated price. Its their polite way of saying no but westerns don't get this and take everything at face value. Imagine you sell 50 $ watches and some guy asks you how much. You decided to have fun and throw him 500 $ and dude takes it face value and pays you. Would you respect him because he overpaid or maybe he would be a forever joke among your friends. The fact you pay for sex doesn't change sexual dynamic and rules of economy. Just stick to fair market prices and if you want to reward girl give her a reasonable tip but afterwards.

[MiamiBoy1]

PREACH!! This should be pinned or Sticked to the top. WE have the leverage not them. I'll tell you, if she starts off in dollars it usually a bad sign however what I like to do is always ask in Pesos FIRST!!

Don't give them anywhere to go be like "cuanto cuesta en colombiana pesos?

Let us band together as well! We should come up with a snazzy pricing chart. I can build one that we put how much you should be paying if anyone would like. Sort of like how we hav the map.

Do you really think that if you ask to get quoted in pesos you are going to get like 50% off or something? These girls might be dumb but they do track the exchange rates (due to the fact that Gusto caters to foreigners) and will charge you accordingly. Also, how many of ISG members do frequent Gusto? Very very few. The majority of gustos clientele are weekend warriors who are not ISG members. They are not price sensitive and will gladly pay 200-300 usd simply because it is cheaper than back home, that's their logic. And gusto girls know that. This is why they barely negotiate, because there is always a gringo willing to pay premium. Most of us on ISG know gusto is a tourist trap and avoid it. Your suggestion to stick together is naive and won’t work. If nobody was willing to pay outrageous (by local standards) rates, these rates would go down because the girls would not have any business. Supply and demand.

[BlueChange]

MDE has changed since the 3 years I have visited, but I am here to only say this:

NO you don't have to pay 200-350 USD for pussy in Colombia.

At todays rate.

100 USD =455 K pesos.

200 USD = 911,000 pesos.

250 USA =1,139,226 MILLION pesos.

300 USD-=1. 367 MILION pesos.

350 USD= 1. 6 MiLLION Pesos.

Ask them to quote you in PESOS not dollars, can we at least agree on that? Hopefully some will realize how ridiculous these prices are when they hear 1.3-2 Million pesos coming out of a Chicas mouth.

Gusto's -any of you tried to get their numbers and negotiate away from the club? Tried holding a convo with the Chica, even if you must use a translator app, get her to laugh, treat her with some respect, be firm -but not an ass. The hardcore ones may still reject you but I bet you some 9's that will agree to see you during the day for much less.

If you can fuck a 9/10 at Loutrons, la ISL for 300-480 K pesos, why would you consider paying more at Gustos? Go find a 10 at a top establishment, get her number and go from there. I am sure quite a few Chicas who got paid 300-350 USD were either bad fucks and / or left after one pop.

We are the ones paying -be willing to go home alone if you must, take back control of this market or in few years the most basic looking Chica will be asking for 500 USD.



PS theres no need to disparage a fellow monger, laughing at him or calling him a sucker if he wants to go to gustos, rather lets help and offer advice to each other. The Chicas have banded together to raise the price of pussy but we dont have to accept it, especially members of this board who should KNOW better.

Teach the newer members who come here to seek advice, even when they are too lazy to RTFF lol, have some patience and lets stop bickering.

PREACH!! This should be pinned or Sticked to the top. WE have the leverage not them. I'll tell you, if she starts off in dollars it usually a bad sign however what I like to do is always ask in Pesos FIRST!!

Don't give them anywhere to go be like "cuanto cuesta en colombiana pesos?

Let us band together as well! We should come up with a snazzy pricing chart. I can build one that we put how much you should be paying if anyone would like. Sort of like how we hav the map.