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09-19-23 19:40 #13096Senior Member

Posts: 3946"That's plain silly Marquis. Biden would lose to any of the Republican candidates save one. But he would beat Charles Manson and Donald Trump.
Romney was a management consultant then private equity head for Bain capital. He created more jobs than he destroyed, and improved productivity at the companies he advised and helped acquire. If you believe experience in the private sector is relevant to government, then Romney's your man if you want the USA to be an economic and industrial power house.
Trump on the other hand started with $400 million from his father and over $1 billion from bondholders and banks who he didn't repay. And that was back when $1. 4 billion was a lot of money. And ended up with assets that are worth less than what he started with after you account for inflation.
You and I paid a lot more taxes than Trump did in many years, because he was able to use that $1 billion that he didn't repay the bondholders as a carried forward tax loss for many years. Based on Trump's experience in the private sector, you might expect him to run up the national debt and push for rock bottom interest rates, like he did with his Atlantic City casinos and banks. And he did that. Romney on the other hand was better prepared from his business experience to make America competitive and prosperous again.
That's not to say that Trump wasn't head and shoulders above Biden in terms of economic policy. He was.
Flake is an American hero. Please educate me on how he used Mexican slave labor. ".
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ground-states/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...ed-nationally/
https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2023...lican-in-2024/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...gop-candidate/
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09-19-23 19:33 #13095Senior Member

Posts: 3946Well
"That's plain silly Marquis. Biden would lose to any of the Republican candidates save one. But he would beat Charles Manson and Donald Trump.
Romney was a management consultant then private equity head for Bain capital. He created more jobs than he destroyed, and improved productivity at the companies he advised and helped acquire. If you believe experience in the private sector is relevant to government, then Romney's your man if you want the USA to be an economic and industrial power house.
Trump on the other hand started with $400 million from his father and over $1 billion from bondholders and banks who he didn't repay. And that was back when $1. 4 billion was a lot of money. And ended up with assets that are worth less than what he started with after you account for inflation.
You and I paid a lot more taxes than Trump did in many years, because he was able to use that $1 billion that he didn't repay the bondholders as a carried forward tax loss for many years. Based on Trump's experience in the private sector, you might expect him to run up the national debt and push for rock bottom interest rates, like he did with his Atlantic City casinos and banks. And he did that. Romney on the other hand was better prepared from his business experience to make America competitive and prosperous again.
That's not to say that Trump wasn't head and shoulders above Biden in terms of economic policy. He was.
Flake is an American hero. Please educate me on how he used Mexican slave labor. ".
I've seen several interviews with him over the years including the Daily Show w / Trevor Noah LMAO.
Where all he ever has to say is how much he, loves his dirtcheap Mexican slaves / labourers on his ranch.
I've heard him swoon over them every time he spoke like he was going to cry over how little they let him pay them!!
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09-19-23 15:37 #13094Senior Member

Posts: 2386That's plain silly Marquis. Biden would lose to any of the Republican candidates save one. But he would beat Charles Manson and Donald Trump.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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Romney was a management consultant then private equity head for Bain capital. He created more jobs than he destroyed, and improved productivity at the companies he advised and helped acquire. If you believe experience in the private sector is relevant to government, then Romney's your man if you want the USA to be an economic and industrial power house.
Trump on the other hand started with $400 million from his father and over $1 billion from bondholders and banks who he didn't repay. And that was back when $1. 4 billion was a lot of money. And ended up with assets that are worth less than what he started with after you account for inflation.
You and I paid a lot more taxes than Trump did in many years, because he was able to use that $1 billion that he didn't repay the bondholders as a carried forward tax loss for many years. Based on Trump's experience in the private sector, you might expect him to run up the national debt and push for rock bottom interest rates, like he did with his Atlantic City casinos and banks. And he did that. Romney on the other hand was better prepared from his business experience to make America competitive and prosperous again.
That's not to say that Trump wasn't head and shoulders above Biden in terms of economic policy. He was.
Flake is an American hero. Please educate me on how he used Mexican slave labor.
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09-19-23 15:25 #13093Senior Member

Posts: 2386So, as opposed to links describing or showing Biden lying, and there are many, I'm supposed to find links of a major televised campaign speech where Biden says something about someone who won't run against him. That should be easy but it's pointless. And find where he says we might begin World War II. OK, he is kind of senile, but I think he knows World War II happened a long time ago.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Unusually, your post isn't comprehensible, to me at least, so I don't understand what you're getting at. But I suspect you're trying to do the three card monte deal. Like where we're supposed to totally ignore every Republican state with a large population and every Democratic state with a small population and then say the country is a an oligarchy ruled by the landed class.
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09-19-23 15:16 #13092Senior Member

Posts: 2386Dear Tooms,
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Politifact has a left of center bias.
https://www.allsides.com/news-source/politifact
And furthermore your Politifact link lumps MSNBC in with NBC. NBC lies a lot less than MSNBC.
I stand by what I said.
Sincerely,
Fair and Balanced Tiny.
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09-19-23 09:23 #13091Senior Member

Posts: 4637Anything you don't like is Fox News. That was actually Matt Taibbi doing something you don't recognize Spidy, telling the truth.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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And by lies, you mean what? You mean Joe Biden did not get Shokin fired? You mean Shokin was not investigating Hunter for a corrupt business deal? You mean Hunter did not say in his laptop that Dad gets half of all he earns? You mean the FBI did not want that 1023 non-classified document released? You mean the memo did not say $5 million for each Biden? And Hunter Biden did not himself say that he would not have been hired by Burisma if not for his last name?
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Then there are Hunter Biden's shell companies, Devon Archer's testimony about Joe Biden's presence during his son's business calls, Joe dining with Burisma exec Vadym Pozharsky at Cafe Milano.
They are all lies and pretenses?
Speaking of lies, that story is months old, and Devin Archer did testify. He even went on Tucker Carlson.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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You must live in a different country than I do.
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09-19-23 04:14 #13090Senior Member

Posts: 7456So it seems it was rigged in favor of land barons over the greater number of individuals from the beginning.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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And all while creating the illusion of numerical fairness for those most likely to lose a ton of $20 bills at a 3-Card Monte table.
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09-19-23 04:07 #13089Senior Member

Posts: 7456Links, please
We are all anxious to see the video clips and quotes of Joe Biden THREE TIMES in a major televized campaign speech cite a person who in no way ever ran against him or ever will run against him, by law, as his upcoming election opponent and close with a big, dramatic, obviously rehearsed warning that we might begin WWII any minute now.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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Please provide them as soon as possible.
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09-19-23 04:01 #13088Senior Member

Posts: 3946Lmao
Oh yes he has. Both are world class liars. And Biden's a world class plagiarizer too.
https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...iar-but-trump/
But bad Orange Man.
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09-19-23 03:57 #13087Senior Member

Posts: 3946"Oh yes he has. Both are world class liars. And Biden's a world class plagiarizer too. ".
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/...t-a-biden-lie/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2023/09/why-biden-lies/
According to the NR Dirty Joe is a "Classic Bullshitter" upper case no less LMAO.
Thats why ET likes Dirty Joe so much, birds of a feather LOL.
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09-19-23 03:50 #13086Senior Member

Posts: 3946I don't know which is the bigger turd Romney or Flake
"I saw it the first time Marquis. I have no problem with this guy. He appears to be anti-war, unlike Romney, which is a plus in my book. It sounds like his background, in finance and management consulting, is a lot like Romney's. He has business experience which is also plus. He advocated universal COVID testing for schoolchildren. He says he's molding himself on Mike Lee, who is truly the taxpayer's friend. Based on policy preferences I might like him a little more than Romney.
Now, what you're getting at, does he buy into Trump's election denialism? My suspicion is that in his heart of hearts he does not. Unlike Romney however, he won't say it. In Utah it doesn't matter. The Republican, whoever he is, will win the general election.
If you want to get into an argument bring up Jeff Flake instead. ".
https://www.businessinsider.com/chec...ng-down-2011-8
Romney stole all the money he has via vulture capitalism.
Flake just used old fashioned Mexican slavery / slaves.
2 parasites the world will instantly become a better place once both are dead.
ZERO election denialism.
Just calling a spade a spade it was rigged!!
And EVERYONE knows it, including you.
Dirty Joe couldn't beat Charles Manson not even posthumously.
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09-19-23 03:13 #13085Senior Member

Posts: 238699.99% of Republicans and 90% of Democrats make sense from time to time. You fall into the 90%. You're welcome.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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09-19-23 03:08 #13084Senior Member

Posts: 2386Oh yes he has. Both are world class liars. And Biden's a world class plagiarizer too.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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09-19-23 03:05 #13083Senior Member

Posts: 2386I saw it the first time Marquis. I have no problem with this guy. He appears to be anti-war, unlike Romney, which is a plus in my book. It sounds like his background, in finance and management consulting, is a lot like Romney's. He has business experience which is also plus. He advocated universal COVID testing for schoolchildren. He says he's molding himself on Mike Lee, who is truly the taxpayer's friend. Based on policy preferences I might like him a little more than Romney.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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Now, what you're getting at, does he buy into Trump's election denialism? My suspicion is that in his heart of hearts he does not. Unlike Romney however, he won't say it. In Utah it doesn't matter. The Republican, whoever he is, will win the general election.
If you want to get into an argument bring up Jeff Flake instead.
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09-19-23 02:49 #13082Senior Member

Posts: 7456Has the long term Fux Fake News Liar problem gotten worse lately? Yes, much worse.
It's difficult to find a more current assessment.
Originally Posted by Tiny12
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But the pattern in any Google Search I have made on the topic puts Fux News clearly in the lead among Fake News Liars, MSNBC far behind in 2nd Place and CNN the least Fake News Liar of those three:
https://www.politifact.com/article/2...-meter-scorec/
That being the case, it is then worth seeing what the Best Truth-Teller of the 3 has to say about Fux News quite recently:(regarding Fux News)
That means about 60 percent of the claims weve checked have been rated Mostly False or worse. Heres how it breaks down (as of Jan. 27, 2015): see chart.
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At MSNBC and NBC, 44 percent of claims have received a rating of Mostly False or worse. The full breakdown: see chart.
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And as for CNN? It has the best record among the cable networks, as 80 percent of of the claims weve rated are Half True or better. see chart.
Analysis: Fox News has been exposed as a dishonest organization terrified of its own audience.
February 17, 2023
https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/17/busin...ies/index.html
Fox News has been exposed like never before.
A trove of newly-released text messages and emails have laid bare how the right-wing media giant operated with little regard for fact in the weeks and months following the 2020 presidential election. The correspondence reveals that the networks senior-most executives and highest-profile hosts chose not to disclose what they believed to be the truth of the election out of fear that that the facts would alienate Fox News audience and throw the highly profitable business into ruin.








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