Rants and stupid shit in Prague

[Gentleman John]

AI fixes this. OF and Cam are about to be dead end for girls just check out deepnudes and AI girlfriends. I am pretty sure there will be an army of indian call center employees faking as an Insta thot or Only fans model during lunch breaks. This will put a dent in Simp economy for girls and they would have to come back to physical work place. Golden era of punting is about to start again.

I hope you're right. I definitely think you're right on deepnudes and AI girlfriends.

[Gentleman John]

To be clear, there is no SWC unless there is full testing.

Nope Fiddy,

Most of us who have higher rates have higher rates so we can have life and enjoy the work. But that man lost me on raw sex. Thats gross. I would rather meet 4 men with lower rate with protected classics then having one which pay XYZ and potentially adds HIV or syphylis as extra.

[FiddyCent]

Lelo hex or Glyde, sometimes Sagami 0. 01.

HIV is an overhyped, propaganda-driven virus. When HIV was first released in the market, it was used to promote anti-homosexuality propaganda, but when the agenda changed to curtail population growth, HIV was used to scare horny.

Good point DwayneJohnson, and thanks for the tip!

FC.

[DwayneJohnson]

Yes, DwayneJohnson. I agree that "raw sex" is not gross if both participants have been tested for STIs. HIV is serious, but now that medications are readily available to keep your viral load low, you still don't want to catch it or other diseases from a working girl. Vaginal sex is a lesser risk than anal sex and it is transmitted from through blood. If you do stick to a brand, which high quality condom do you recommend? Are they readily available?

FiddyCent.

Lelo hex or Glyde, sometimes Sagami 0. 01.

HIV is an overhyped, propaganda-driven virus. When HIV was first released in the market, it was used to promote anti-homosexuality propaganda, but when the agenda changed to curtail population growth, HIV was used to scare horny.

[FiddyCent]

Raw isn't gross if medical certificate of being clean can be provided. HIV is overhyped, statistical probability of transmission in normal vaginal sex is very low and it's somewhat noticeable in anal sex since tissue rupture happens. Condoms could be gross and unhealthy with all those chemicals, I usually buy high quality one and hate it when girls push their own shitty brand cause someone told them it's more safe.

Yes, DwayneJohnson. I agree that "raw sex" is not gross if both participants have been tested for STIs. HIV is serious, but now that medications are readily available to keep your viral load low, you still don't want to catch it or other diseases from a working girl. Vaginal sex is a lesser risk than anal sex and it is transmitted from through blood. If you do stick to a brand, which high quality condom do you recommend? Are they readily available?

FiddyCent.

[FiddyCent]

Nope Fiddy,

Most of us who have higher rates have higher rates so we can have life and enjoy the work. But that man lost me on raw sex. Thats gross. I would rather meet 4 men with lower rate with protected classics then having one which pay XYZ and potentially adds HIV or syphylis as extra.

You meant "Nope GentlemanJohn. " he was the one who has no interest if he has to use condoms. He believes he can pay a girl a higher price in order to receive "raw sex". Please re-read his post and you will see that those words were written on his post, not mine. I am into Oralek bez kondomu, but for sex and especially Anal sex, I use a condom. That is where the diseases are spread. I could say that I am very careful and selective. Luckily, I have not received any STIs and I intend to keep it that way.

Respectfully,

FiddyCent.

[DwayneJohnson]

Nope Fiddy,

Most of us who have higher rates have higher rates so we can have life and enjoy the work. But that man lost me on raw sex. Thats gross. I would rather meet 4 men with lower rate with protected classics then having one which pay XYZ and potentially adds HIV or syphylis as extra.

Raw isn't gross if medical certificate of being clean can be provided. HIV is overhyped, statistical probability of transmission in normal vaginal sex is very low and it's somewhat noticeable in anal sex since tissue rupture happens. Condoms could be gross and unhealthy with all those chemicals, I usually buy high quality one and hate it when girls push their own shitty brand cause someone told them it's more safe.

[MelissaDeRouge]

Well, that's one thing we agree on! My aim is to come into a foreign market, take advantage of it and leave it the way I found it. I am not saying you, but others who think like you who believe that they are getting a princess that had not been with eight others the previous day are truly delusional. That SIMP who is willing to pay for everything, and at any price is truly living in a fantasy. Just as you said, you don't monger at home because you believe the women are trafficked into your country. By you flying an innocent victim to another country, are you not a sex trafficker yourself? Dream on!

Nope Fiddy,

Most of us who have higher rates have higher rates so we can have life and enjoy the work. But that man lost me on raw sex. Thats gross. I would rather meet 4 men with lower rate with protected classics then having one which pay XYZ and potentially adds HIV or syphylis as extra.

[FiddyCent]

I don't really care what you like or what you can do, or what girls you can find for what price or even what you believe to be true. You do you, I'll do me. I have zero interest in quick wham, bam thank you mams. I have no interest in being the eighth punter on that day, knowing that several other man have sweated away or cum on her before me. I have no interest if I have to use a condom. My desires go beyond the mechanical requirement to just get off. I can use my right hand for that and get on with my day in a much more efficient manner. If I need basic sex or a blowjob, I can get that at home anytime I want.

Well, that's one thing we agree on! My aim is to come into a foreign market, take advantage of it and leave it the way I found it. I am not saying you, but others who think like you who believe that they are getting a princess that had not been with eight others the previous day are truly delusional. That SIMP who is willing to pay for everything, and at any price is truly living in a fantasy. Just as you said, you don't monger at home because you believe the women are trafficked into your country. By you flying an innocent victim to another country, are you not a sex trafficker yourself? Dream on!

[FiddyCent]

AI fixes this. OF and Cam are about to be dead end for girls just check out deepnudes and AI girlfriends. I am pretty sure there will be an army of indian call center employees faking as an Insta thot or Only fans model during lunch breaks. This will put a dent in Simp economy for girls and they would have to come back to physical work place. Golden era of punting is about to start again.

There could be so much competition in those media forums that OF and Cam girls will be competing with each other. Eventually, the money dries up when a newer, hotter girl shows up and there are no new subscribers. That will force them back to physical work when the rent comes due.

FC.

[DwayneJohnson]

But I also think that we're witnessing a global cultural shift when it comes to sex work and the Covid lockdowns sped up that shift. I've personally noticed in porn, both Stateside and European, that the attractiveness of talent has declined since Covid. Whilst I am not a frequent strip club attendee, I have also have limited anecdotal evidence that the same has happened at strip clubs too. The talent just isn't as physically attractive as it used to be. I think the reason behind this are webcam sites (who often have lovely looking ladies on them) and Only Fans.

AI fixes this. OF and Cam are about to be dead end for girls just check out deepnudes and AI girlfriends. I am pretty sure there will be an army of indian call center employees faking as an Insta thot or Only fans model during lunch breaks. This will put a dent in Simp economy for girls and they would have to come back to physical work place. Golden era of punting is about to start again.

[DwayneJohnson]

I can't see any of this getting better either, because the liberal European attitude to sex is also changing. Anti sex work and anti porn used to be the domain of the religious right. Now the movement is growing among the liberal left that porn and sex work isn't empowering for women after all. We're seeing movements, in places like Amsterdam, to clean it up entirely. Prague won't be far behind. I fear the golden era is long gone.

It's cyclical in nature. Capitalism brings golden era == > golden era makes people dumb == > dumb people bring Leftwing nutjob utopia == > Leftwing nutjob utopia make people destitute and brings hard work era == > Hard working capitalists bring back golden era.

[Gentleman John]

I don't understand the need for the hostility in your post. We are having a discussion and this isn't Twitter. There are no echo chambers to show off too. For the sake of civility, I'll refrain from being equally as combatitive and try to stick to logic.

What exact question did I fail to answer?

As for being a simp, I think you'll find that is a label that can be pinned to almost every punter alive. There is a strong argument, especially when levied against single men, that anyone who pays for sexual services is a simp, especially those deluded enough to think the sex worker actually has a good time with them. And of course non-single men are just cheats, which isn't really any better, but depending on their motive can be construed as less simpish.

I don't live under any delusions or illusions. Nor do I regard myself as a "big shot". I have certain needs that need to be fulfilled and I can't get them fulfilled at home. The question is, why can't I find a non-sex worker to fulfill them? And the answers are very simple. I don't have the time to look, it's too risky to look, there is no guarantee that if I found someone they'd be into what I need, it's too risky to have a friend with benefits and finally I am under no illusions that aesthetically I am not exactly Brad Pitt or extremely rich and therefore if I want a good looking attractive young woman it's very unlikely that I'd be able to pick one up at a bar, on a dating app etc.

So given what the definition of a simp is, I don't believe I am a simp. I know what I like, I know what I want, I know what I am willing to pay and most important of all I know the arrangement is 100% transactional and I'm under zero illusions that if it wasn't for the money, then the girl wouldn't be at all interested in being there with me.

As for trafficking and exploitation, let's keep using the word simp. Simps convince themselves that most of the girls are there through choice. Simps convince themselves that trafficking is a rarity or doesn't happen in the places where they monger. Simps convince themselves that the girls actually like them and want to be with them. Simps convince themselves that the girls actually have a great time with them whilst carrying out sexual services. That's a simp.

The article I posted was intentionally before the war as it is well known that Ukrainian women were being exploited before the war. If you think that this situation has gone away then I have a bridge to sell you. It's got worse since the war. When a sex worker is robotic in her process, it's because she doesn't want to be there. At best this is because she's having a bad day and just wants to get it over with. Usually it's because she is either really disgusted by the punter or because she's not there through her own free will. There is a reason why so many Ukrainian girls are charging more and why their services are inferior. They aren't setting their own prices and they don't want to be there. But they are expected to bring home a minimum amount of cash or they'll be consequences for them. Anyone with even a rudimentary understanding of human nature, history and common sense can put two and two together on that one. And being in the country legally has nothing to do with anything either. Most trafficked girls are not illegal immigrants. In the UK we've had tremendous problems with trafficked girls from Central and Eastern Europe, including Czechia but, primarily from Romania. I would never monger in my own country, but if I did? Then I'd stay away from every Romanian sex worker there because there more chance that they're trafficked than not. Fuck, I'd pretty much stay away from Romanian sex workers anywhere.

I don't really care what you like or what you can do, or what girls you can find for what price or even what you believe to be true. You do you, I'll do me. I have zero interest in quick wham, bam thank you mams. I have no interest in being the eighth punter on that day, knowing that several other man have sweated away or cum on her before me. I have no interest if I have to use a condom. My desires go beyond the mechanical requirement to just get off. I can use my right hand for that and get on with my day in a much more efficient manner. If I need basic sex or a blowjob, I can get that at home anytime I want.

Finally, a fair price? Fair is a human subjective concept and doesn't actually exist. There is no such thing as fair or a fair price. It's an illusion. Ironically given the simp statement, one could argue only a simp would believe in the concept of a fair price. For this particular topic this maxim, often inaccurately credited to Publilius Syrus, comes to mind. "Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it."

As I stated elsewhere, I believe the sexual liberation of Prague is coming to a rapid end anyway. Politically and socially the right and left are becoming more aligned on their perceived damaging impact of pornography and sex work and when both sides of the political spectrum come together like that, then the end is inevitable. It's just a matter of when.

So, instead of answering the question Gentleman John, you just counter with your point on human trafficking. I don't deny that it exists, but it is everywhere around the world. I don't believe that the majority of the girls are trafficked because as refugees, these girls are legally in the country. Your article seems to be from 2019 when girls were not free to move from country to country to work. As refugees, girls can go anywhere a visa is granted. Does a pimp boyfriend count as a trafficker?

So, you believe that if you fly a girl from city to city that you are a big shot. That just makes you a SIMP! In Prague, or anywhere else in the world you can convince any girl to travel with you. I too have been provided passports of girls who wish to fly somewhere with me. Sure, but not for a first meeting. I will need to know the girl first, including her real name and her skills in bed. Is she even worthy of a second meeting, let alone a trip to another country? What better place to go than Prague to take a test drive? If I wanted to, I could splash money around and "make it rain". There is no need. Where I find myself in is a buyer's market and I won't go beyond what the market would bear..

[FiddyCent]

I think it is very naive to believe that large scale trafficking doesn't take place in Prague. There will even be Czech girls from the countryside who are being exploited and trafficked. Of course there are plenty of girls out there who aren't too. I'd wager that since the conflict began the situation has gotten a lot worse.

https://www.unian.info/society/10615...king-ring.html

I'm in a privileged position where I am able and willing to spend a decent amount of money and usually take the girls out of the country. One of my primary motives for this is that I then get to buy their plane ticket and that gives me access to their real name. I can then perform some due diligence, including finding out how local they are, whether they have another career and are escorting on the side (which is often the case), their real social media presence etc. That's not to say that clever traffickers couldn't set up a fake history but I doubt they'd go to those sort of lengths. But you're right, no one can ever be 100% sure, especially if the girl is a single parent.

As for these girls also working out of a club, it is again possible but working out of a club doesn't automatically equate to being trafficked or pimped out. Independents work clubs too.

So, instead of answering the question Gentleman John, you just counter with your point on human trafficking. I don't deny that it exists, but it is everywhere around the world. I don't believe that the majority of the girls are trafficked because as refugees, these girls are legally in the country. Your article seems to be from 2019 when girls were not free to move from country to country to work. As refugees, girls can go anywhere a visa is granted. Does a pimp boyfriend count as a trafficker?

So, you believe that if you fly a girl from city to city that you are a big shot. That just makes you a SIMP! In Prague, or anywhere else in the world you can convince any girl to travel with you. I too have been provided passports of girls who wish to fly somewhere with me. Sure, but not for a first meeting. I will need to know the girl first, including her real name and her skills in bed. Is she even worthy of a second meeting, let alone a trip to another country? What better place to go than Prague to take a test drive? If I wanted to, I could splash money around and "make it rain". There is no need. Where I find myself in is a buyer's market and I won't go beyond what the market would bear. If a girl quotes me 5000 to 6000 CZK to start and for basic services, I laugh and move on. She would have to prove that she is something special before I would even consider her rate or to take her to the next level. It is not hard to find out what a girl does for a living outside of escorting. All you need to do is ask. I know the real names of several Czech pornstars and escorts. It really isn't a big deal to get to know them. So answer me this, of the girls you have taken out and interrogated, how many of them were trafficked? Are they doing this with you under their free will? If a girl appears to be distressed in the introduction with me, it won't even get past the first 5 minutes. By performing your due diligence, what did you hope to achieve? Are you thinking of a LTR or marriage? As I have said before, there is something for everyone in Prague. If there is a girl that you have found on Tinder or Instagram that catches your eye, I am sure she is hiding something from you. Hey, if you want to be somebody's Sugar Daddy, that is your right. Knock yourself out. Our topic of discussion began with why prices have increased and services decreased. You cannot just pin this on inflation or other job opportunities. There are enough providers in Prague. I am advocating a fair price for a set standard of services. Clubs had a set price and options to upgrade services for said price. Same goes for privats. What I don't agree with are girls that set a price and refuse service. You hear stories of that all the time in Show Park and recently in one of the Prague clubs where the girl said the 3000 CZK was not the price for sex. Come on ! If you let girls get away with that, then the market is screwed. If you invite Cinderella out to the ball, eventually the clock strikes midnight.

FiddyCent.

[Gentleman John]

I think it is very naive to believe that large scale trafficking doesn't take place in Prague. There will even be Czech girls from the countryside who are being exploited and trafficked. Of course there are plenty of girls out there who aren't too. I'd wager that since the conflict began the situation has gotten a lot worse.

https://www.unian.info/society/10615...king-ring.html

I'm in a privileged position where I am able and willing to spend a decent amount of money and usually take the girls out of the country. One of my primary motives for this is that I then get to buy their plane ticket and that gives me access to their real name. I can then perform some due diligence, including finding out how local they are, whether they have another career and are escorting on the side (which is often the case), their real social media presence etc. That's not to say that clever traffickers couldn't set up a fake history but I doubt they'd go to those sort of lengths. But you're right, no one can ever be 100% sure, especially if the girl is a single parent.

As for these girls also working out of a club, it is again possible but working out of a club doesn't automatically equate to being trafficked or pimped out. Independents work clubs too.

You do bring up some valid points Gentleman John, but I don't believe the girls that are working in Prague are doing things against their will. I think these girls are doing this line of work because they like to earn money. It does not explain why Czech girls are still charging local rates 1500 CZK, while Russians and Ukrainian girls are charging 5000 CZK to 6000 CZK for essentially the same service. Prices for everything are going up. Yes, inflation has its grip on the market! The economy is better, but I am almost certain that local men are not making double or triple what they earned from just a few years ago. I read reviews of bookings that are only 30 minutes because these men are priced out of the hourly sessions. For girls, I don't believe their options are that much better. There may be Only Fans and other webcam services that are offered, but there is competition in those fields as well. Sure, the girls can work as independents, but they also put themselves at risk for violence. Many girls just find that they could earn an equal amount just by working at a massage parlor instead of an apartment brothel. Blame could go to the tourist who is willing to pay, but the girls know there are those tourists who are willing to pay. These scenarios have all been well covered on this forum as well as on others. Bottom line is the girls still need to pay rent and pay for their education. Jobs cannot be that lucrative compared to earnings through selling sex. Just look at the sex map. Every point on the map is one place where you can find a girl offering sex. The girls will charge up to what the market will bear. If men are willing to pay, the girls know they can get away with it. Why not work half as hard and get paid double or triple? There comes a point in time where tourists will say, why go to Prague for average service when they could stay home and get so much more? Why pay for inferior service when there are better options elsewhere. It might not necessarily mean destinations such as Amsterdam, Prague, or cities in Germany, but there are many other options around the world. An increase in the talent pool should drive prices down, due to the increase in supply. I don't believe that demand has increased so much that it is surpassing the supply. Rising prices are as a direct result of decreased workload and rising costs. That added pressure to meet their monthly quota will lead to poor service and unhappy customers. So long as men are willing to pay, the girls will keep trying to get away with it.

Let's discuss your independent girls. How much are the ones you have vetted charging you for each meeting? You say that they are worth the extra money because you believe they are of a higher standard. How so? You could be dating the exact same girl working out of a club because you think you are getting her exclusively booking through an agency. You could be very sadly mistaken, but it is your coin to toss around.