Pattaya Reports

[Raj Patela]

Looks Matter.

Playpen. No sight of you know who. But their is a New Deputy.

More Tannish than Whitey. Looks young. Small like Baitoey. Face is an upgrade from regular Soi 6 girl.

You know the Drill, if you want a girl as you walk in you take one. A guy walks in looks around and takes the Deputy over all the other Toilets.

Give this one a few years to Mature I'm seeing a Superstar.

[EihTooms]

Many thanks for these insights. Sadly, I am well over 40 (early 60's) and definitely well over "fit". LOL.

But I can chat and be charming and nice, which has helped me in the past.

I'll have to do more research before I make any dicisions.

I have lived in Bangkok for the past 12 years. I am now 70 years old now but I believe I am fairly fit. However, my dick is such that if it must wear a condom there will be no fucking or anything else to completion. It always has been that way. Well, I finished once wearing a condom back when I was in my early 20's after tremendous and dreary effort.

I have somewhat passable basic Thai language skills. Based on the chemistry that seems to be established in the bars, getting the girls laughing, hugging me, kissing me, crawling all over me when I do give them my attention, begging me to take them in the bars or on the street, I must be pretty damn charming to boot.

In the past 12 years I have lived in Bangkok. I have visited and stayed overnight in Pattaya a few dozen times in the past 12 years and about as many times back in the 1990's. I have engaged with at least a hundred different Pattaya ladies over the years. I am talking about ladies I chose to either just take or negotiate upfront with for a P4 P session.

I went with the "no discussion upfront, just go with the flow" approach about 30% of the time and the "negotiate BBFS+CIP upfront" approach the other 70%. And these are a mix of ladies from Walking Street and LK Metro gogo bars, Soi 6 bars, freelancers strolling along Beach Road 1, Beach Road 2, Walking Street, you name it.

I tend to choose youngish, in their 20's that is, cute girls to engage for P4 P sessions.

My Pattaya score card for getting BBFS+CIP with the girls I want to fuck at all is as follows.

Using the "no upfront discussion, just go with the flow" approach even if I have to cajole, discuss further or offer more money at or very near the moment of penetration: Zero.

Using the "negotiate BBFS+CIP upfront" approach: 1.

And I would rate that 1 and only 1 Pattaya girl who agreed to BBFS+CIP with me about a 6 on the Thai bargirl / Freelancer scale for looks. I would not have considered taking her if not for my hope that doing so would break my decades long "No BBFS+CIP with good-looking girls in Pattaya" curse. LOL. Which it did not break.

Again, that is 1 out of at least 100 Pattaya P4 P girls I met over the years and discussed a session with because I actually wanted to fuck them.

My rate of success for getting BBFS+CIP with girls attractive enough for me to want to fuck them is much, much, much better in Bangkok. That's why I live in Bangkok instead of Pattaya.

Yeah, I had plenty of no hassle BBFS+CIP in the Philippines, too. And with some of the best lookers in the gogo and beer bar scene in Manila and Angeles City. But that was about 30 years ago. I have no idea what it would be like for me now.

As always, YMMV.

[Raj Patela]

Many thanks for these insights. Sadly, I am well over 40 (early 60's) and definitely well over "fit". LOL.

But I can chat and be charming and nice, which has helped me in the past.

I'll have to do more research before I make any dicisions.

Don't Fret you are over 60.

Not many of us are young and Hansum. We are PAYING.

Notice he did say his choice of Provider includes MILfS. Connect the Dots. I have and I've come to the conclusion they will do whatever you want. LOL. They take what they can get kind of thing. Beggars can't be Choosy,. Yatta!

[Raj Patela]

I was in Pattaya Aug-Oct 2022.

I was in Pattaya Aug-Oct 2023.

I can say definitively that hotel prices went up between those two trips, very noticeably in fact.

I don't think they'll go higher than where they are at now though, tourists numbers will dwindle, high season will disappoint.

When I return during low season in 2024 I expect the prices will be same as in 2023. But we'll see.

This is why we have so much conflicting info. This guy is comparing come out of COVID pricing to now.

That thought did not even come across my mind.

I'm comparing pre Coronavirus pricing to now.

Who knows what time period the Condo guy is commenting on.

[MrHappyKat]

Many thanks for these insights. Sadly, I am well over 40 (early 60's) and definitely well over "fit". LOL.

But I can chat and be charming and nice, which has helped me in the past.

I'll have to do more research before I make any dicisions.

I was in Pattaya 2 months ago and I'll give some feedback for you.

Don't discuss BBFS, just go for it. Any negotiation will always lead to higher prices for you.

I spent most of my time in the gentleman's club (Passion, Kineree, etc), but also went to different SOI's, the high end Gogo's, beer bars and had some street walkers.

Here is how I approached it and so should you.

Gentleman's clubs.

I take the girl to the room. No negotiation for BBFS before going to the room, just a clarification on the price for sex, usually by the manager / mamason.

In the room, if the chemistry was good we started in right away and I tried to go BBFS without even attempting to put on a condom, many of the girls were ok with it.

In other cases, I jumped into the shower, she followed me in and I would start to have BBFS with her in the shower. If this was ok with her I knew we would continue in bed.

I would say about 60-70% of the girls from the GC's I went with were ok with BBFS+CIP.

Soapy's. Only went to Soi Honey on this trip as they are a little more expensive, but when in Rome!

Started sex with condom after bath and rub down, but after about 10 minutes I took the condom off and was able to persuade her to have BB sex.

She was a little reluctant but gave in after a few seconds of persuasion. I ended up giving her a $20.00 tip after. Massage - $70.00 + $20.00 tip = $90.00 US.

Street Walkers.

Didn't go with that many, but had a few back to my room.

Most asked if I had a condom and I said no. So BBFS was with most, but not all.

Prices ranged between $35-$50 US.

Gogo bars.

Same rule applies here, did not discuss BBFS, but received it with about 50% of the high end gogo girls.

I was expecting to have some say no, which they did, because they are a little more educated about STD's from their managers, etc so if they come down with something from you they are out of business. Because they cost so much more than beer bar girls, GC's, SW's, etc. , some were willing to give me that service without paying extra. (never offer to pay more because they will all want more).

I think BBFS is dependent on you and the girl. If you are under 45 years old, fit, attractive (by her standards) you will be better equipped to get what you want.

In Thailand, I wouldn't ask for BBFS up front unless you are not in this category and want her to charge you more. I'm sure the high end Gogo bar girls would ask for an arm and a leg for BBFS if you try and negotiate up front before leaving to your hotel room. So I avoid any and all pre negotiated prices for extra services. Remember this line, "It's always better to ask for forgiveness after than permission before" translate this into punting and you will always pay more and receive less if you try to negotiate all up front in Pattaya.

This, for me, is quite different than BBFS in Germany in places like Sharks, Palace, Artemis, etc where the girls nickle and dime you for each and every extra service now.

In Germany I always negotiate up front and ask if I can have BBFS. Some girls say yes, others say no. Sometimes I will try and persuade them anyways, but if they are educated on STD's as they are required to take weekly tests, many will decline unless they are really desperate for the money.

And in some cases I ask in the room. Most girls will ask for more (+50 E) for it.

I've had many sessions in FKK's where the girl will approach me and tell me I can do whatever I want to her.

When I hear those words and she looks good, off we go, no condom is used with BBFS+CIP.

Last disclaimer. I usually don't go with the youngest, prettiest little spinner in the clubs, bars, etc. I seek out the more mature, MILF types that have been around the block.

Maybe that's why I usually get what I want. YMMV will depend on your looks.

My advice is to get and use Prep from your doctor to reduce the risk of getting something you don't want.

Also use condoms.

[ElMexicant]

So not long ago, I get a visit from a buddy who does the usual 10 days vacation every few years from abroad. We were supposed to meet on Beach Road near where he was staying before heading to WS. I walk a route everyday as part of my routine. I see the same "characters" day and night. They recognize me, I recognize them. But I kept to myself. Anyways, long story short, my buddy was chillin with a bunch of homeless people when I arrived to meet him on that concrete elevation across from Mike's Shopping Center. He had bought them some food from the umbrella station and some big bottles of beer from 7-11. They seemed happy and he invited me hang out with them. Dude was holding hands and getting touchy with one of the homeless chicks who was hand feeding him those cold ass, all batter, fried shrimps in the styrofoam bowl. Their eyes got wide when they saw me. I kept a good distance day and just nicely said, I was full and I need to head to WS first to use the bathroom. Message me when you get there. When he finally met up, the guy was reeking of that homeless dirty old clothes haven't bathed in days smell. Nasty. He had a cold, so he couldn't smell anything, but I could. My night was cut short and I went home to shower. This was same guy about 6 years ago, got pulled into one of those King's bars in Patpong. When I went to meet him, he was the only customer in there. I looked at what was on stage. Stopped right the door and told him I forgot my wallet and message when he gets done. Left him and his naiveness to figure to out on his own where he was. Happens a lot on here too. Some of us guys just know way much more than others about who is who and what is what. Pattaya is not that big. More of a high school if you frequent the sex industry as much as I do. I am not going to be the one who points out the post op that you thought was girl in the bars. If you like, you like. It's all charity right? We are all growing. I am nice like that. Enjoy.

[Raj Patela]

Bronx Pizza Buakhao.

A poster brought up this was a Favorite of his. Do you concur?

For Slices I've come upon 3.

1. Asok BTS. Looks Horrible.

2. Bronx Pizza above. See number 1.

3. Pizza place across Repent Soi 6. See number 1.

Now Sbarro in Vegas, Hnl, their slices are fine and dandy.

[GatorAk]

I just recently completed a 4-week trip to Southeast Asia. My original itinerary was aggressive, and included Singapore, Ho Cho Minh City, Phnom Penh, Manila, Angeles City, Pattaya and Bangkok. At the last minute I decided to scale it back and visited Singapore, HCMC, Pattaya and Bangkok. I will quote any prices in local currency unless I paid US dollars like on Agoda and Airbnb. Thai Baht was around 36 to the dollar the whole time. Singapore dollar was 1. 36 and the Vietnamese Dong was 24500. So, $100 is 36000 Thai Baht, 136 Sing dollars and 2,450,000 Vietnamese dong.

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Thanks for very informative report.

[Pulse0101]

This is an excellent report. I have a question. Since your bad experience with the two bar fines from Heaven Above, I'm surprised you went back. What was the reason for going back?

Good question! Having been in LOS many times, I know that some experiences turn out good and some are bad. I understand the many factors that make for a good experience and didn't feel that, in this case, it reflected on the bar per se. The girls obviously had other plans.

But the vibe at HA is fun, the girls are friendly, the mamasan is friendly, and my experience has always been that repeat visits get you more mileage.

Considering my experience wasn't 'bad' - I did bang her, I had no hesitation to go back to HA. Both did a double-take when they saw us in the next night though.

[Explorer8939]

Are you curious to know what these girls plan was?

Ask Mr Explorer, he knows it all about off-hours hobbying of Pattaya working girls.

After the ladies take care of their customer and then leave with cash in hand, they have a lot of options. Many go to Ibar or Insomnia, where drinks are cheap for them. Their hope is to hook a whale for big money. But, often, its early morning, they have had many drinks, and some young Farang offers 500 baht, and off they go.

This is if they don't have a Thai man waiting for them at home. If so, they just go home when they have money.

If they are new to Pattaya, they hit the karaoke bars at 1 am or so, buying drinks for young Thai men. It's expensive, moreso if they hook up with one long time. Some older long time bargirls never get over their addiction to karaoke boys and so have to work until they can't get customers any more, and when the money is gone, so is the honey.

[Raj Patela]

All my life I been poor. But it really doesn't matter no more. Cuz no matter what they say. SubCmdr gonna be OK.

You keep it 100 my brother. Much respect! Real recognize real.

In all aspects except for budget were are dead on point. I like Pattaya because strangely enough I have found my peace here. If I want to go hard in the paint, pull 10000 out of the ATM, roll up into Windmill 1 and have the mamasan move the cheap charlies out of my favorite seat cause me and my friend are each about to by a bottle and make it rain up in that mother fucker, I can do that. Balling on a budget for one night. The next night I can have one of my 1000ST girls come over. The next night my girl might come over and spent the night. When that happens I know I am going to get my dick sucked in the morning and blow a load of splooge into her mouth. She will still have time for a shower and a tea before she leaves for work. I ask you (not you my ISG brother because you already know what time it is) what exactly is there not to like?

Pattaya is fun. But you certainly cannot tell that from the all the negativity that gets posted up in here. LOL!.

Ballin at Windmill is Funny. Hahaha.

Sorry but your tones of posting leads one to believe you don't make it Rain 100's. 5 20's I believe.

You and your bud asking for Discount of 200 each if the TFgiro does does a double duty is Hillary ious.

[Raj Patela]

Are you curious to know what these girls plan was?

Ask Mr Explorer, he knows it all about off-hours hobbying of Pattaya working girls.

Pattaya is Booming they already had other customers lined up. Hahaha. Hahahaha. No offense.

[Jarango]

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You gave probably the best report I have seen here and it would have done justice in a professional environment. Two general questions.

1. Though you flew business class, you admit it was one of the world's longest flights. Was it worth it or should you have stated in the States or done your usual Costa Rican trip.

2. You are in your late 60's. Was it worth it? Were you able for the action?

I am roughly your age and I am getting some small health problems. Friends are popping off with worrying regularity. I ask with my own forthcoming early 2024 trip in mind.

[Raj Patela]

I visited Manila / Angeles for the 1st time earlier this year for 3 weeks. Had a very good time. Now I understand the risks and how to mitigate them as much as possible, so no lectures, please. I'm looking for BBFS / CIP and wondering if I can find that in Pattaya for around or near the same level of effort and price as I experienced in the Philippines. Specifically, I was able to get what I wanted, mostly ST for between $80-150 including bar fines with 9 out 10 sessions. (You can find several of my TR's in the Phills forum from Feb-Mar, 2023.).

Is it likely I can do the same in Thailand? I have read through several weeks of posts here, and although there is mention, it's not really clear to me if I can get what I'm looking for without paying 2 to 4 times "normal" rates. I'm planning a one-month trip for early Spring, 2024.

Any feedback or advice will be appreciated.

Reverse Engineering.

Buzzin did a vid on bacteria and the like recently of Pattaya. Since the Dr said it was an epidemic of Roman proportions what you want is Surely available.

You might have to think a bit, I kind of backhanded your Answer. Need to use a little intuitive defection.

[Belvaros]

Does anyone have a favorite Soi 6 bar? I seems to find the girls shuffle from bar to bar and most are all set up the same. Therefore, it's difficult to choose one or two favorites. However, Toy Box seems to have a constant line up of the same girls.

Sexy in the City. USA manager Rob is nice, girls are very friendly, a few glamours and pretty faces.

Toy Box. Always good on all accounts.

Exotica. Has some really great ST naughty girls.