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[NRandom940]

I have one night layover, staying in a hotel in Makati. What is your opinion on the best place if I want to bring one (maybe two) girls back to my hotel for the whole night?

[WestCoast1]

At the same time I am not happy to disclose my real name and bank account details to her. I am aware grab and gcash but I am not sure about the information shared to her.

All suggestions are welcome.

HM we have seen this issue before. There is not really a good way to send money internationally to someone without disclosing your personal info. Many governments don't allow it as they won't know who is sending money to terrorists. Remit services, and general transfer services (ie, Venmo or such) would require bank account info or full name info.

Another way to do it would be to remit the money in Phils to someone you trust, who would then GC or remit the money to your SB for you.

[WestCoast1]

Like Expat American says, this is a bad idea. I can guarantee you she is fucking other men right now, as well as getting cash from other guys who are not in-country. Do you really want to supplement some other guy's pussy access?

Not to jump into the question of the stupidity of pre-paying from out-of-towners. But as SB's are simply escorts con simps, isn't it understood by everyone that they are with multiple guys?

Sorry if I offend anyone and I shouldn't generalise but Sugar Daddies seem to be the biggest simps on the planet and happy to be lead by the nose where ever girls want to take them usually at $100's a time.

I find two kinds of SD's:

1) Some SD's are simps, who will do anything to get (and stay) near a young beauty. No level of groveling is too low. Simps may or may not be SD's.

2) Richer fellas for whom money is not an issue, and does not keep them up at night if they lose it. For example, he is about to overnight with a new SB for $8,000 USD. During the evening she unfortunately gets her mens. Many gents might be upset with that (especially #1 above), but not our guy. He's fine having a nice dinner with her, some wine, and a movie maybe. Then to the hotel to sleep with nearly naked young beauty, and turn her loose in the morning with her $8 K prize. He can easily book a $1,000 girl for a ST the same day. He will look forward to bagging the $8 k girl later, to possibly include sending her flowers and chocolates with a note telling her to feel better and contact him soon for a repeat. No groveling required.

A question for the SB gents. I thought the idea behind SB is that SD's routinely provide the occasional between-meetups some flowers, money for nice clothes, or other nice items for the girl. Its almost like dating from afar, showing up in her town for occasional weekends, or alternately flying her into your town for trysts. I know two SB's in my country who describe it exactly as that. They have multiple 'clients' who pay them for their time a few days here and there, and the various clients provide other between-meet items such as money for rent, clothes, an evening out with her friends, paying utility bills, and so on. I get the feeling that those ladies would drop quickly any client who stopped giving money for her between-meetup needs.

Given this, I can understand HM's desire to send money while he is away; might not his SB in Phils legitimately expect it? If not, is she a SB, or simply an escort?

[Goferring]

In the words of the Shark Tank's Mr. Wonderful: "I forbid you from paying her any money until you are balls deep!" (Ok, I may have paraphrased those words a bit. : p).

Here's a Shark Tank pitch for you: Happy Kat's Mongering Escrow Services.

You could provide anonymous payments for buffaloes' vet bills and younger sisters' college fees.

You could even offer executive packages confirming that Daddy's monthly stipends do actually result in services being delivered in full.

It's a win-win. You keep a skim off the top and get to fuck Princess on his dime too.

You could be quite busy if John, Frank and Geoff are all her one true love at the same time. I'm sure you are up to the task.

Let me know how you go. I'm happy to provide occasional contracting services when required. I'll plead guilty to being a side dick several times, having had to fuck out of frame when Daddy calls at the most inopportune time.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

Why do you want to pay her while you are not there? Don't do it.

I'll go one step further: why is he even talking to her while he is away? What purpose does that serve beyond more opportunities for her grandma to get sick and a few buffaloes to go lame.

My favourite comeback for requests for money while John is away is "I'll be back in XXX. Will you still need money then?

As an aside, I've never had a girl refuse to see me when I'm back in country because I didn't send her cash while I was away.

All "my" girls know that I'm generous while in country but that making contact while I'm home serves no purpose.

Enjoy. G.

Sorry if I offend anyone and I shouldn't generalise but Sugar Daddies seem to be the biggest simps on the planet and happy to be lead by the nose where ever girls want to take them usually at $100's a time.

[MrHappyKat]

I am just wondering about the best anonymous way to pay regular SB. On the initial visit I paid her in cash, Now she is asking money on the monthly basis but I am away and not going to visit for few months.

At the same time I am not happy to disclose my real name and bank account details to her. I am aware grab and gcash but I am not sure about the information shared to her.

All suggestions are welcome.

Like Expat American says, this is a bad idea. I can guarantee you she is fucking other men right now, as well as getting cash from other guys who are not in-country. Do you really want to supplement some other guy's pussy access?

I've been doing sugar dating for over 10 years. The single most important lesson I've learned in that time is no cash without pussy. Ever. Even if she tells you (and she will!) that you will get a freebie with you return, she will forget that promise the moment you land at the airport.

In the words of the Shark Tank's Mr. Wonderful: "I forbid you from paying her any money until you are balls deep!" (Ok, I may have paraphrased those words a bit. : p).

[Expat American]

I am just wondering about the best anonymous way to pay regular SB. On the initial visit I paid her in cash, Now she is asking money on the monthly basis but I am away and not going to visit for few months.

At the same time I am not happy to disclose my real name and bank account details to her. I am aware grab and gcash but I am not sure about the information shared to her.

All suggestions are welcome.

Why do you want to pay her while you are not there? Don't do it.

[HunterMonger]

SA Manila can be hit and miss.

I had all set up before landing in Manila, even with a backup option.

Both the girls were amazing and confirmed with the video call but they changed their mind after I landed. I guess It also depends on the girls you chose.

BTW how did you find girls on reddit.

I'm staying in Makati Feb 4th to Feb 17th and am also interested in a sb. I've contacted a few girls from Reddit, but am unsure wether it's worth getting a SA membership.

[HunterMonger]

I am just wondering about the best anonymous way to pay regular SB. On the initial visit I paid her in cash, Now she is asking money on the monthly basis but I am away and not going to visit for few months.

At the same time I am not happy to disclose my real name and bank account details to her. I am aware grab and gcash but I am not sure about the information shared to her.

All suggestions are welcome.

[El Ted]

You will find the location and phone number in Google Maps. To find the spa you go halfway into the driveway, enter the door on the right and go up to the 2nd floor. There are signs to guide you.

It is highly recommended to make an appointment since it gets busy, especially in the evenings.

They have 3 or 4 different massages on their menu, including a 4 hands. I mostly go for their signature massage, which is 80 minutes for 1300 pesos.

The locale is nothing to brag about. Several small-ish cubicles with a massage table and aircon, and a shower down the hall.

There is no nuru here, just oily backrub and a long HJ.

Mind telling me a little about Abacca? I've heard about it, but it doesn't have a website.

Do you have to make an appointment? Is it just standard massage and HJ?

What I'm really searching for is a proper Nuru massage (with the gel! It's the grail I've been searching for haha. All the massage places I've been to in Barca, Vienna and Prague that have offered Nuru never have the gel.

I'm staying in Makati Feb 4th-Feb 17th.

[Rprogta]

I am going to live in Makati area, city garden hotel.

I have SA subscription, but just want see tested and trialed girls rather than just experimenting as I am going to visit for a week only.

If you provide ID OR SA profile link, I can contact them and have chat with them.

Thanks.

I'm staying in Makati Feb 4th to Feb 17th and am also interested in a sb. I've contacted a few girls from Reddit, but am unsure wether it's worth getting a SA membership.

[Rprogta]

I have been to Abacca several times and have been happy with their service every time. This time I am staying close to Mall of Asia. Are there any similiar establishments in the Pasay area? What I'm looking for specifically is a half decent back and shoulder rub followed by a long and teasing massage with plenty of cock, balls and arse action.

Mind telling me a little about Abacca? I've heard about it, but it doesn't have a website.

Do you have to make an appointment? Is it just standard massage and HJ?

What I'm really searching for is a proper Nuru massage (with the gel! It's the grail I've been searching for haha. All the massage places I've been to in Barca, Vienna and Prague that have offered Nuru never have the gel.

I'm staying in Makati Feb 4th-Feb 17th.

[Rprogta]

I have been to German FKKs several times. BBFS is the norm in the RTC clubs in the north west and one or two places in Frankfurt. The rest used to include DFK, BBBJ and CFS. The standard was 50 Euro for 30 min or 100 Euro for an hour. I always went for the 30 min single pop. First time I saw a FKK was when the Euro just came out as a currency and 50 Euro was 40 USD. Back then the clubs were full of super hot Russian, Polish, Ukranian etc unlike now when its 90% Romanian. The RTC clubs were even cheaper (30 Euro a pop) and you could BBFSCIP with less hot girls but still many notches above the average US hooker.

All nostalgia. Its not like that anymore I hear.

I can add some input to this topic as I've been to a couple of FKKs in the past year and researched a few in Frankfurt.

Germany and more specifically Frankfurt are by far the best destination for FKKs still. FKK Sharks is regarded as the best. Prices have gone up with standard half hour service (no extras) being €70 or even more. Extras like BBBJ cost €50. I'm not familiar with any club in Europe offering BBFS. Club entrance fees have also gone up to around €95, think it is less at Sharks and the Frankfurt clubs.

The clubs I went to were Goldentime in Vienna and Sauna Club Prague. Goldentime in Vienna was great, although a little pricey with 30 minutes standard service starting at €100. I do love having drinks in a club surrounded by gorgeous naked women though, and would recommend that everyone here tries this experience at least once. It's a shame that quality of most clubs has gone downhill, as mentioned above there is a significant amount of Romanians in these clubs whose service is lacklustre. That's why selecting a good girl is key and not being pressured by the first girl who flirts with you. I remember walking into GT and straight away two Moldovan girls grabbing my arm and starting some heavy persuasion.

I knew to expect this and am usually very good at saying no when I'm not interested. Things got hard (literally!) when they took me to the quiet porn theatre and sat real close with their boobs right in my face. I almost cracked then, but forced myself to remember that they were nowhere near the top 10% of girls in the club, and also focus on their imperfections. I knew I'the regret wasting time and money on these girls so had to be more firm and got away (some girls are really pushy and gaslight you into choosing them).

It's strange because it really flips the script on how guys are usually treated. In the outside world girls are the ones hit on in clubs and pressured into sex, but in the FKKs men are hit on with girls coming up to you and flirting.

My patience was rewarded at GT as I had an amazing time with a pale, auburn haired Hungarian who had an amazing natural body. She gave me an awesome GFE for €200.

I wouldn't bother with the FKK in Prague. I've heard the girls there can get aggressive if you reject them, also there are much better value girls elsewhere in the city.

So yeah, FKKs are a great experience. Especially if you can go through multiple women per hour. If you're a one pop guy then it's less value for money when you consider the club entrance fee.

[Expat American]

Ya that would be the cost of an AC girl, but with longer recovery time between shots.

Think for a moment of those experiences, not from the standpoint of a repeater or regular customer, just as a john who was fresh off the airplane for his week-long conference today. Could you have gotten BBFS from almost all of them for those prices? And further, what would those BBFS prices be now, post-covid inflationary? I ask for this reason: The previous euro gents were thinking of US prices being similar to euro prices (or even euro prices a decade ago). Comparing such sfredbook experiences for new gents today, and the cheaper euro FKK prices today (to include airfare & hotels), and Phils prices today (to include airfare & hotels). Aren't they 3 different animals?

And as another question: Euro girls, especially FKK. Condom required? Full hour or 90 minutes like EA for 2 pops, same price? How does that work?

I have been to German FKKs several times. BBFS is the norm in the RTC clubs in the north west and one or two places in Frankfurt. The rest used to include DFK, BBBJ and CFS. The standard was 50 Euro for 30 min or 100 Euro for an hour. I always went for the 30 min single pop. First time I saw a FKK was when the Euro just came out as a currency and 50 Euro was 40 USD. Back then the clubs were full of super hot Russian, Polish, Ukranian etc unlike now when its 90% Romanian. The RTC clubs were even cheaper (30 Euro a pop) and you could BBFSCIP with less hot girls but still many notches above the average US hooker.

All nostalgia. Its not like that anymore I hear.

[Docwiltro]

The other girls that will be willing to do this live in tondo and are still going to want a roof over their heads, transportation, food, possibly clothes, because the kind of girl that you are going to pick up is laterally going to have holes in everything they own tondo hoe bringing her into a 5 star hotel or luxurious condo is going to be a very awkward walk of shame in both directions.

Here's a couple of Tondo girls with my new fav leading the way.