Crime, Safety, and the Police

[Sol12]

The only solution is make US aid to Mexico contingent on specific justice & LE reforms in Mexico.

Maybe the US could try to discourage the use of heavy drugs instead of letting cities be over run with drug attics. As long as there is a demand criminal groups will find a way to supply it.

So I'm not sure your theory would work since the actual people that would be trying to fight the Cartels would be killed. So far this year in Mexico they have had numerous politicians or people wanting to run in the upcoming elections be killed. Right now the Cartels run more of Mexico than the government from what I see and hear.

I don't believe there's an easy solution and unfortunately both the US and Mexico have let it grow over the years instead of dealing with the problem in the beginning.

[Hargow20]

The only solution is make US aid to Mexico contingent on specific justice & LE reforms in Mexico.

FWIW, there are reports that the cops' story about tire robbing is BS. Some suspect this was another murder due to mistaken identity. One cartel rubbing out suspected members of another cartel. I think the US needs to come down like the wrath of God on a few of these cartels. There needs to be some pretty harsh penalties for killing or harming innocent tourists.

[Phordphan]

FWIW, there are reports that the cops' story about tire robbing is BS. Some suspect this was another murder due to mistaken identity. One cartel rubbing out suspected members of another cartel. I think the US needs to come down like the wrath of God on a few of these cartels. There needs to be some pretty harsh penalties for killing or harming innocent tourists.

[Hargow20]

Yes, I do carry one.

Have you crossed into MEX with it? Thanks.

[Jackie888]

You guys should stay in the city as much as possible when in Mexico because cops stay in the city. The further from the city you go the less likely of security. It's like that across Mexico whether it's Mexico City or Tijuana. Most of the slaughter is outside the cities. The Mormon ambush, the student massacre. Shit usually happens on roads between big cities. If you are crazy enough to travel out of the city, take a backup with you and a couple of mags. And no. It's not cartel vs cartel only. That is a lot of wishful thinking. Good luck.

[Dogers69]

Now this is an international accident. It looks like the attackers wanted their new tires. Mainly until now, crime has been cartel to cartel. What is alarming is that they attacked ordinary tourists. More news link to video News 9 Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUVjo2q1SWc.

Crime has been cartel to cartel? Hu? Who told you that. ? Peoppe kill each other by the dozens every week in Chicago and nyc what makes you think nobody is killing each other in mexixo unless theybare in tje cartels vs cartel situation?

[Cocr Brotheler]

I bought pen taser and attached a leash to it. I like it because it is easy to carry and take out. The other good thing is you can use it scare off the bandito's.

Have you crossed into MEX with it? Thanks.

[Cocr Brotheler]

I bought pen taser and attached a leash to it. I like it because it is easy to carry and take out. The other good thing is you can use it scare off the bandito's.

Nice I added one of these to my list. I want to keep it hidden so they don't try and take from me and use on me. That is small and easily concealed really helps. My incident happened so fast and she separated so quick from me don't know that I could of tased her in time however the clicking sound should keep them away.

[StRobert]

Here's an update to this news grabbing story: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/ar...ing-men-police.

Now this is an international accident. It looks like the attackers wanted their new tires. Mainly until now, crime has been cartel to cartel. What is alarming is that they attacked ordinary tourists. More news link to video News 9 Australia https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUVjo2q1SWc.

[Rambo1969]

Yes it wasn't an ordinary robbery because people usually don't get killed but unfortunately these tourists seemed to want to fight it out and not much you can do when people who are probably high on drugs and with guns want something if yours. Car jackings happen all over and its best to let them have it. That's what insurance is for.

They were caught so fast because the family acted quickly and put messages on social media which the Mexican authorities supposedly reacted to before the victims countries of origin made contact. Unfortunately the Mexican government puts a higher priority on tourists who are missing compared to its own citizens.

The family was able to use the GPS of one of the victims to find the location of the suspects who were dumb and kept it.

Thanks Sol12 . I was wondering how they caught them so fast.

The whole episode is so sad. Some of these criminals have literally zero value to human life. Scary!

[The Cane]

Here's an update to this news grabbing story: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/ar...ing-men-police.

[Sol12]

You are exactly correct Cane. This guy seems to think that he is control of all posts on this board and is always the first to belittle or bully someone if their posts do not match his opinions.

I'm always happy to have an intelligent debate with those of a different opinion. I just can't find many on this board. Instead of a discussion on things I'm called a bully. Not sure how that's my fault.

The only thing I like is facts and helping those that want to visit Tijuana without being scared by the sensationalism that some posters make. Or that if someone goes to a bar and is asked if they want to buy a snack that you just shake your head no or say "no gracias" and the person moves along. I don't think it's a reason not to visit Tijuana.

[Sol12]

Nobody shpuld be going to mexixo unless they are willing to give their crap up when asked for it. And even if you do, but your buddy refuses everyone gets killed. Keep in mind you are in the murder capital of the world, the chances of someone killing you and going to jail for it is zero, and the amount of killers walking around doing cartel hired killings is very high. In other words they have killed before it gets easier they say. So if gringo won't give his shit up he's gona get shot. It's a awful idea to go to Mexico in a newish pickeup truck, and then go I to remote areas where you can be shot and burned with no witnesses. Tske a beater to Mexico if going into remote areas and always give your shit up. Be happy to give it up. A thing else may cause death.

Yes, this is the best thing to learn from the his story. No matter were you are in the world if a desperate person wants something it is better to give it to them instead of being harmed. Big things we have insurance for and can be replaced, most other things are just items that if taken can be replaced or they just aren't that important.

Unfortunately we live in a world with many desperate people especially when they are on drugs or need to buy drugs.

Also Tijuana is having a huge increase in vehicle theft so if you drive over get insurance not only in case of an accident but for the possibility of theft.

[Sol12]

It was not ordinary robbery. Looks more like a cartel revenge murder.

How did policia find links to 3 suspects so quick. It's hard to believe policia could do anything, knowing only 10% murders investigated and maybe 1% conviction.

Yes it wasn't an ordinary robbery because people usually don't get killed but unfortunately these tourists seemed to want to fight it out and not much you can do when people who are probably high on drugs and with guns want something if yours. Car jackings happen all over and its best to let them have it. That's what insurance is for.

They were caught so fast because the family acted quickly and put messages on social media which the Mexican authorities supposedly reacted to before the victims countries of origin made contact. Unfortunately the Mexican government puts a higher priority on tourists who are missing compared to its own citizens.

The family was able to use the GPS of one of the victims to find the location of the suspects who were dumb and kept it.

[Sol12]

They killed them for what? Trying to fight back? Not making ransom payment?

The theory that the Mexican authorities have been using is that they were camping in this remote area and the killers had come to steal their truck and when the tourists denied it they were shot.