Pattaya Reports

[GettingTang]

I have a November trip planned to Pattaya and I'm meeting another fellow monger there. We're going to do our own thing but maybe have a beer from time to time and go on the prowl a couple times probably together. If there's any other mongers going to be there between November 12 and the end of the month hit me up, and I'll buy you some drinks and we can strategize together and you can join me in my new friend as well.

I've been a member of this form for about 30 years or more. Pretty much since it was around. I went to Thailand back in 1997 and I understand a lot has changed back then. I also paid my dues by reading through the last 120 pages here of which, if not most of my questions were answered and I feel like I have a pretty good grasp on how I want to go about things once I arrive. That information is priceless. I'm not here to talk about the good old days versus what it was back then and now. Everything always changes, that's life, and we learned work with it or we don't.

So here's a list of my questions that after reading the last 120 pages, I was still unable to find answers for. Some of them you might find almost comical, but they are actually real things to me. I believe in using any and all advantages when it comes to mongering.

1. I have a trimmed and kept beard about an inch or so long. I've read or heard the Thai women do not like or not as attracted to men with beards. I'll shave it off, even though it's kind of my identity, I could go without a beard for a couple of months it gives me an advantage, the women?

2. I can't believe this wasn't discussed, maybe it was and I missed it? But are Thai women into using toys? I have a pretty serious collection of toys some of which cost thousands of dollars dollars like a fucking machine, etc. And I'm not going to bring that to Thailand, but like a magic wand or handheld vibrators or dildos? Any of you ever use these on Thai women?

3. Yes, I'm a white American, I'm about 5 foot 11, this past year I've gotten my rear end in pretty good shape, I definitely don't look my age of 58. Where I fit in the "looks" department and I don't really care. I'm a man, not something I worry about, BUT What would be the best category of women for me to pursue in my position?

4. I like slutty women. Yes from time to time I want to do the young, sweet and shy girl but honestly as an older man who's lived a lot of life and had a lot of experiences. I like a good old-fashioned slutty woman. LOL I like a woman who likes to fuck. I like a woman who likes to suck dick and gets OFF on it. And occasionally I like a threesome. What are the odds of finding some real sluts in Pattaya? I can't stand the whole mechanical transaction like Tijuana. Been there done that. I will go out of my way to find the women who the money is secondary to. Where if any, is the best place to find these type of women?

5. I have been communicating via fetlife with the owners a (husband and wife, a Thai wife) of the gentleman's club called "whisper lounge" in Pattaya. They have assured me that most anything on my fantasy list can be found there. I looked at their website and they have photos of several of their women and they look OK. They are not stunners, but they are definitely fuckable by my standards. Has anyone been to this club and what would be your review of it?

6. I reading the gentlemen's clubs are cheaper. What are the best gentlemen clubs in your opinion and what are the price ranges to be found?

7. Read the first 120 pages of this Pattaya thread, I feel like Soi 6 is going to be my go to spot for the evening to find my last woman of the night. I'm not really going to be into going upstairs. I want to take back to my room where I can operate more freely and try and avoid the wham Bam type scenario that I mentioned above. How much is this going to set me back? Or is it really just better to take them upstairs and do the deed and leave? This leads to my next question of where and how is the best place to get a girl if you want her to stay for a few hours or long-term. Maybe even till morning?

8. to find the girls that are willing to do a threesome and would actually be into the idea of it and would get into having some pussy themselves, where is the best place to find this. I'm thinking to pick up a little hottie on Beach Road and ask her if she wants to bring a friend? Or would Soi 6 possibly be better for this?

9. I like a good bareback blowjob, I like a blowjob artist, I was spoiled rotten with a sugar baby here in the states who literally could orgasm from giving head. She liked it that much and she was that good at it. Any chance of finding that level of a blow job In Pattaya? Also, at the blowjob bars, can you do freaky things where you like you and another monger sit next to each other and you each have a girl sucking you off and then they switch and stuff like that? I like a good kinky scenario from time to time. It's like watching porn only live.

10. I want to have a massage in my room during the day, want a happy ending some days and probably just a massage others days if I need to recharge. Skip the happy ending, how much can I expect to pay for both types of massage and where is the best place or resources to find a reasonably placed women to come to my room for a massage?

11. Condoms, for 28 years of mongering I've always just used my own common sense and it hasn't let me down yet. I've never picked up anything. Yes I like to go raw. Who doesn't? The actual real feeling of that pussy, skin on skin, can't be replicated wrapping plastic around your dick. LOL how do you bring up negotiating this with the girls? Now I can tell you right now because I have my own methodology for who I'll wrap up and who I won't with. Some of the girls I may negotiate to go bareback with and then I might change my mind once the panties come off. It just depends. I've been snipped, so no worries about knocking anyone up.

12. I like good authentic Thai food like curry, pad Thai, and every once in a while, a good steak. Where are the best places to find these things? What are your favorite go to restaurants. I'll be on Soi 10.

13. I'll be staying on Soi 10 at "THE STAY HOTEL" It looks like a decent hotel. I included breakfast in my booking and it cost me about $63 per night which I know is ridiculous for Pattaya, especially booking this far in advance, but I am funny about my accommodations, I like to be comfortable and this is actually a real vacation for me. Anyone stay there and what are your thoughts on it? Can I walk to so six from there?

14. Since I won't have cell phone service because I use straight talk, I'll be relying on Wi-Fi. Do most of the bars, and different places around the restaurants the open beer bars, places like that do they have Wi-Fi connections?

15. And Thai Friendly, I've read a few times that it's basically a waste of time to start working that well in advance and that you should just do it once you're on the ground. If I get on Thai friendly and say 3 o'clock in the afternoon and I start messaging girls what are the odds that I'll be meeting up with one off of there by that evening? And is ฿2000 a reasonable expectation for a semi-attractive woman to come to your room for a couple of rounds?

November 12 through the end of the month I'll be there. If you're going to be there the same dates or part of the same dates, hit me up. The girls are great and all, but it's nice to have a fellow Western to chitchat with and share a beer with from time to time.

Any of these questions any fellow mongers can answer answer is greatly appreciated.

[Expat American]

You are keeping it 100.

You see I think everyone should go where they are treated best. If your eyes and your dick are not being treated well here in Pattaya, then ask yourself why are you here? Why do you visit?

When I got tired of the culture in LATAM countries I decided to take a break. Flew half-way around the world. What did I find? Pussy is Pussy! Latinas have better hardware overall. But Thai girls have much better software. This is no perfect pussy to be found, past, present or future. Although I am looking forward to going to a the first brothel staffed with sex robots.

On this we are 100% in agreement. That is why my last few mongering trips have not been to Thailand. There are places with better value, sweeter more natural girls and more genuine experiences. They don't come with some of the other benefits of Thailand (awesome food, massage, beaches) so I still happily go to Thailand for holidays with my wife etc and but for a pure mongering weekend not so much anymore.

[Banana Boi]

BB referred to you as one who info is Illegitimate. Hahaha.

Not by name but by inference. Hahaha.

When did I do this? In general I don't attack people on this board and I wouldn't attack Sub cause he's my comedic relief on here.

[Forty Drinks]

Thank you Banana Boi for the real information historical and current.

Everyone now has a valid reference (from a reliable source) for the costs of top tier girls and the other expenses involved. But if the enjoyment they get from the money they spend is worth it to them, that is priceless!

Please excuse my misleading positivity

BB referred to you as one who info is Illegitimate. Hahaha.

Not by name but by inference. Hahaha.

[SubCmdr]

Correct gogo girl prices have been 3000ST and 5000 LT since 2015. The girl's price has not gone up by a single baht. BF have increased from 600-1000 to up to 2000 in the past 10 years. Drinks have roughly doubled in price since 2015.

Looking back it amazes me how I ran up 8000+ baht bills on drinks only back in 2015. That would be equivalent to guys spending 16,000 baht on just LD's these days.

Then add in a 3000+ at Hollywood, 500 at 7-11, and 5000 LT. Repeat night after night. No wonder I have no money left!

Thank you Banana Boi for the real information historical and current.

Everyone now has a valid reference (from a reliable source) for the costs of top tier girls and the other expenses involved. But if the enjoyment they get from the money they spend is worth it to them, that is priceless!

Please excuse my misleading positivity

[Banana Boi]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I bet the girls back then were charging premium market prices relative to what was standard at the time. In other words, those agogo girls were not going for the same prices street girls were going for. Am I right?

Correct gogo girl prices have been 3000ST and 5000 LT since 2015. The girl's price has not gone up by a single baht. BF have increased from 600-1000 to up to 2000 in the past 10 years. Drinks have roughly doubled in price since 2015.

Looking back it amazes me how I ran up 8000+ baht bills on drinks only back in 2015. That would be equivalent to guys spending 16,000 baht on just LD's these days.

Then add in a 3000+ at Hollywood, 500 at 7-11, and 5000 LT. Repeat night after night. No wonder I have no money left!

[Allover]

It is that entire Glory Days mentality that causes old folk to get stuck and not be able to fully enjoy Pattaya in the present incarnation. This principle applies to hiring prostitutes and many other areas of life.

I think most of us older guys enjoy both the glory days AND the present even if the present isn't as good as the glory days. I don't think anybody that visits Pattaya and this board now is stuck in the past.

[Mr Enternational]

Correct. You see the same 'girls' in the bars who started working there 20 years ago.

I see the same thing in the discos. And the new guys are just as happy with those same chicks who are now in their late 30's and early 40's as we were when we were new and they were in their 20's. There are plenty of new younger ones too. Nothing has changed except the players and I guess the price went up a little. But I do not see the new girls as looking any worse than the old girls looked back then.

[Nyezhov]

Correct. You see the same 'girls' in the bars who started working there 20 years ago.

Hell the boss at Thermae in Bangkok has been at it for 40 plus years, and I've know him for since 1986 +\.

[SoberHans69]

I've been going to Pattaya for like 20 years now but haven't been to Pattaya for over a year.

Last time I went I wouldn't say the facial attractivness had changed too much over the years but the amount of tattoos (mostly bad ones) has exponentially increased along with the average waistline of the girls, the prices have obviously gone up but the service of the girls, inside and outside of the bedroom, has gone down quite a bit too. There's also been an increase in those stupid painted on eyebrows too but that applies pretty much everywhere in the world now.

That's not to say you still can't have a great time there though. It's still probably the best mongering destination overall due to atmosphere, safety, choice etc but if you want great sex with attractive girls it's hard to find. Personally I'm going to split my holidays between Brazil and Pattaya for the best of both worlds.

[Mogwai]

Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.

Correct. You see the same 'girls' in the bars who started working there 20 years ago.

[Explorer8939]

I started hobbying in Thailand in 2019. And I envy those who hobbied long time ago. Why do you think overall talent has declined? Is it because there are more economic opportunities now for women?

Female talent is about the same as 20 years ago.

When guys get older, they forget about the dogs and just remember the good ones.

[LocalExplorer]

One of my friend was in pattaya 2 months back and tried Uzbek from one bar. His experience was good but costly.

He doesn't have any other info other than some gogo or dance bar in walking street. (he doesn't remember the name as well.).

I have been in pattaya before (6 month back). But never tried any Uzbek / Russian.

Wanted to ask here. Where to find if anybody knows? Any info, experience?

I've never tried them, but they're easy to find. There's a number of bars / clubs right on Walking Street. Just walk by or zoom in on Google Maps on WS and search for "Russian". Generally speaking, (almost) all the white women on WS are from former Soviet Union countries, especially Central Asia (Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan etc.), but ethnically Russian / Slavic. On Thai Friendly I have been also contacted by a few, white-looking and often with "RU" (capital letters) in their user ID.

Amongst the farang, and those resident in Pattaya in particular, "Russian" girls especially on WS are infamous as a scam. That's what I heard. Supposedly, the declared prices are very high, at pay-up time turn out to be double and there's always enough security men to convince you paying everything in full on the spot is your only option. Being white, I never felt compelled to verify those stories. I could try "white" or "very expensive" in Pattaya, but never both at the same time.

You're probably better off in Europe for white girls, but I can imagine if you just want to try once, it's still cheaper than flying.

[Vendelo]

I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order.

Black Pagoda Patpong - 2016.
King's Castle 1 Patpong in it's temporary location for 6 months in 2016(?)
Rainbow Bangkok (the big one. No idea which number) - 2017.
Baccara Bangkok - 2017.
Baccara Pattaya - 2016.
Sensations Pattaya - 2016.
Fahrenheit Pattaya - 2016
Happy / Beach Club Pattaya 2017
Sapphire Pattaya - 2015.
Palace Pattaya - 2017.
Ninja LK Metro - 2016.
Pin Up Pattaya. The 1st year it opened - 2017?

Likely forgetting a couple. Don't care if LD's have doubled since 2015. Would pay 2x more now if we could have the talent we once had.

I started hobbying in Thailand in 2019. And I envy those who hobbied long time ago. Why do you think overall talent has declined? Is it because there are more economic opportunities now for women?

[Sam Sanuk]

I've now become one of those guys who look back at the Good old days. I thought I'd list some of the best gogo bar lineups I have ever seen, in no order.

1987. Patpong; Supergirl.

1987. Pattaya; Super Baby (a very appropriate name).

1987. Cowboy: Darling; Tilac; Midnight.

Beers 35 baht; lady drinks 30-35 baht; barfines 100 baht; LT 200-500 (You'd have to kick them out in the morning or take them to breakfast.) No such thing as ST unless that is what you wanted.

SS.