Pattaya Reports

[LittleBigMan]

It may sound proper but experience Taxi drivers are use to it. Grabbing the handle bar is actual the worse thing it tranfer to the driver on these small bikes, scooters, all your fears and movement.

Packing someone who does this especially a large farang is dangerous. At stop lights I've seen guys arms they got a death grip their veins are popping out. The key is relax using your inner thighs to squeeze the side if the seat with hands on you lap if needed grabbing his clothes if necessary.

[LittleBigMan]

The owners of high rollers are 2 young Guys. Nothing to do with Flowers and Nightwish.

As independent as they could be. They really get involved in the bar organizing pool teams, sports events, music nights etc.

It has a high local following. Zero to do with Nightwish.

Come on are you really that clueless. Did I say they are involved. Regardless of their indepenence people and owners know each other most of all follow each other leads.

In regardless to HR, I've met the owners I know the first papa and mamasan that was hired to start it up and know where many of the girls came when open and why many have left. From I know their business model.

In the beginning, 3rd floor they had a ST room 500 baht was the BF for girl and room, today it is gone. Take out it 1000 baht no drink requirement. Today BF 1200,5 drink requirement add that all up 200 a pop drink you do the math. Regardless of the TV, free food. Sport bar concept it is in the business of selling drinks and retaining girls. Here is one for you I still see her on the side, she sold so many drinks her BF got upset she came home drunk often rather she go back to GoGo to get BF which was the case but today it is back to beind drunk since customers arent BF as much.

Although no relationship many of the Gogo WS, LK now are following their footsteps to compete. Many of Flower mans buddies or moderators on his website PA. Business that advertise on go around writing false report how great the places are.

Over 15 years ago first GoGo on Soi Buakhao, I went to a soft opening with a few friends Rehab, I believe it was where Playgirl was located. Owner was talking his BF was 1500 then BF was 600 his reason he said he had too! The use of a word Agency was just starting to be use, silently I said 6 months tops he would be gone.

Places like Candy, corner of Baukhao treetown started as Andy a GO Go, down the road Red, Blue,? All started like hybrid style clubs now all drink oriented. LK with lower quality girls in general clubs all have started to rise their BF, with drink requiremen. And you know what they all don't have direct involvement with nightwish.

[FFlintstone69]

This is a prime example of why I do not "loan" money to chicks. I had never done it before because I learned from other people's mistakes. But I decided to go ahead and undertake this experiment myself with it being such a meager amount.

On June 5 the chick I pay for sex that works at 7 11 hit me up asking to borrow money. I have known her since before covid and she has never asked before. She said she needed 200 baht for her daughter to go on a field trip at school and she would pay me back on June 10.

Sure why not. But I said I will even send an extra 100 baht that you do not have to pay back so that she can also buy food on the trip.

June 9 came and she asked me to borrow another 200 baht saying she lost her wallet and needed to buy food. In the over 5 years I have known her she has never asked me for money, but this time asked to borrow money twice in the span of 4 days. I told her no. I said I am waiting for tomorrow when you give me the other 200 baht back. She said well I will not have the money until the 15th. I say okay I will wait until the 15th. Then she still begs for 200 more baht. I said I can not. I am still waiting for the other 200 baht. Then she changes to wanting 100 baht. I still say no. Then she says why not as if it is my duty to loan money to her. She asks me why I am so mean.

June 15 comes and goes and not a word from her. June 18 I send the QR code so she can send the money back to me. She says why are you so mean. I said you said you will send the money on June 15 and now is June 18. She has not responded since. Today is June 23.

You do it one time and they are going to keep asking on top of not wanting to pay you back to begin with. I threw away 300 baht to learn something that I already knew. Good thing I am not fool enough to do it with thousands or even hundreds of thousands like many guys have done. I am not a financial institution and have no desire to be one.

Awesome post!!

[Gabacho]

There are steel or aluminum bars (foot pegs) on each side of the bike near the rear wheel. Put a foot under each peg, and hold on to the handle bars on the back of the bike and you will be as safe as you can be riding a bike as a passenger.

I've used moto taxi alot in Colombia with this app Picap. You are correct they have metal pegs to put your feet on and metal handle bars under the seat that you hold onto.

I plan on using them in Thailand and Indonesia too. I already have the gojek app for Jakarta moto taxis. It's the most affordable way to get around other than public transport.

-Gabacho.

[Banana Boi]

We went to Opium, which was very busy, and had a ridiculous number of dancing ladies. Not very many high quality ladies, and there were too many of them on stage.

Too many ladies on Opium isn't that a good thing? Yes, after the euphoria of night 1 when I listed a bunch of girls who I liked, so many of them haven't been around all week. Place is packed though. Imo they need to work on the quality of the models. Palace on the other hand doesn't have nearly as many girls (only 3 groups of 15 Sunday night) but the average quality of the models is clearly 2 steps ahead.

This will upset Explorer. Saw who I am assuming a Japanese guy buy a girl an iPhone and gave it to her in the bar. That sure caused a commotion. I say he's Japanese because I know that Japanese guys line up and give girls gifts in a strip club after their stage show. Then they get a photo and maybe a peck on the cheek.

For those curious on what type of WG warrants me to go to WS go-gos, I've attached a picture of a girl I barfined from Palace (its a public picture they take when you're at a disco).

Pretty sure she was at Palace last night.

How Not To Fall Off Motobikes There?

Hold on to the motorbike taxi driver for dear life. His clothes may look like they haven't been washed for months and he not be smelling the greatest being in the hot sun all day with a jacket on but if that's worth saving 1 USD and 5 minutes then up to you. As XXL said, you have to not mind wearing that helmet that hasn't been washed for months/years he may make you put on. I used to take motorbikes until Thailand allowed ride sharing. I prefer not to be sweaty and smelly when I go see my gogo girls.

[Mr Enternational]

Compared to beach road, discos, beer bars, LK metro, and soi 6? Yes! I would take a bar girl from Palace unseen compared to taking a freelancer unseen from beach road or anywhere else. One has a higher risk than the other.

Why did you drag Beach Road and discos into it? A comparsion was not part of the question. I was merely asking if every chick in Palace was in your opinion worth the 4000 baht or so the establishment charges, that you have enough faith to call down and tell them to send you any girl there. If not, then maybe the price has less to do with the age and beauty of the hooker as you are leading us to believe.

[Jimmy Boy 99]

I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?

There are steel or aluminum bars (foot pegs) on each side of the bike near the rear wheel. Put a foot under each peg, and hold on to the handle bars on the back of the bike and you will be as safe as you can be riding a bike as a passenger.

Go to https://cdn11.bigcommerce.com/s-z1x6as1/images/stencil/original/products/24022/51184/50500771__2__95071.1669771319.jpg?c=2 for picture of foot peg.

[XXL]

I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?

If you are willing to take the risk of a motorbike accident (I'm not) it may be better to rent one. This way you decide how careful you drive, and you can use a clean helmet instead of the grimy one the motorbike guy gives you.

[Rocko20]

She looks like the 7 11 chick that I give 1200 baht long time to.

Thats right! And I don't have time to go searching through every 7/11 to find it.

Glad you now see the crucial role WS go-gos play in mongering for those with limited time, unless of course you intend for every fat, old, broke, bald, ugly, drunk monger to harass or insult every cute non-sex worker they see at 7/11, the mall, a shop, waitress at a restaurant, the beach, in the street, and at a non-sex massage parlor by asking if they're a working girl.

I dont see that as being a good idea, nor effective or efficient use of my limited vacation time in the world’s largest brothel.

I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?

Simple. If youre scared, dont do it. Im not scared so I use motorbike taxis religiously, Ive also rented one before and drove it (but thats a good way to get a ticket unless you have all the proper documentation). Its not for the faint of heart, motorcycle taxis cut off and drive in between cars that will turn you into a sandwich so this is the risk you have to weigh.

You wont fall off as there are handle bars on the back of the seat you can grab, if you dont want to grab the taxi drivers waist. Local thais dont grab onto anything because they already have the experience of riding them both as drivers and passengers so theyre not worried over some speed.

[Mr Enternational]

I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?

Hold on to the seat underneath your butt or the little rear wing that some of them have. Or you could always hug the driver like a ladyboy.

[Exoticspirit]

I see that motobikes are cheap and can get around quickly unlike cars there. My question is how to not fall off one? I'm worried that I'll slide off the back of a seat if the driver accelerates and then traffic hits me from behind. Any insights from you guys who are experienced riding motobikes as a passenger?

[Cusland]

Correct, Nightwish intent is to monopolize the Soi in doing has ruin it, this same concept his friends has done this throughout Pattaya. Soi Pothole High Roller, LK, WS.

The owners of high rollers are 2 young Guys. Nothing to do with Flowers and Nightwish.

As independent as they could be. They really get involved in the bar organizing pool teams, sports events, music nights etc.

It has a high local following. Zero to do with Nightwish.

[Mr Enternational]

This is a prime example of why I do not "loan" money to chicks. I had never done it before because I learned from other people's mistakes. But I decided to go ahead and undertake this experiment myself with it being such a meager amount.

On June 5 the chick I pay for sex that works at 7 11 hit me up asking to borrow money. I have known her since before covid and she has never asked before. She said she needed 200 baht for her daughter to go on a field trip at school and she would pay me back on June 10.

Sure why not. But I said I will even send an extra 100 baht that you do not have to pay back so that she can also buy food on the trip.

June 9 came and she asked me to borrow another 200 baht saying she lost her wallet and needed to buy food. In the over 5 years I have known her she has never asked me for money, but this time asked to borrow money twice in the span of 4 days. I told her no. I said I am waiting for tomorrow when you give me the other 200 baht back. She said well I will not have the money until the 15th. I say okay I will wait until the 15th. Then she still begs for 200 more baht. I said I can not. I am still waiting for the other 200 baht. Then she changes to wanting 100 baht. I still say no. Then she says why not as if it is my duty to loan money to her. She asks me why I am so mean.

June 15 comes and goes and not a word from her. June 18 I send the QR code so she can send the money back to me. She says why are you so mean. I said you said you will send the money on June 15 and now is June 18. She has not responded since. Today is June 23.

You do it one time and they are going to keep asking on top of not wanting to pay you back to begin with. I threw away 300 baht to learn something that I already knew. Good thing I am not fool enough to do it with thousands or even hundreds of thousands like many guys have done. I am not a financial institution and have no desire to be one.

[Mr Enternational]

For those curious on what type of WG warrants me to go to WS go-gos, I've attached a picture of a girl I barfined from Palace (its a public picture they take when you're at a disco).

I went to dozens of go-gos on my last trip and looked at countless lineups and to me this is the result of that legwork. This is why I still go to Pattaya.

She looks like the 7 11 chick that I give 1200 baht long time to.

[LittleBigMan]

Right. That's the oligarchy for you. But there is an easy way to counteract the high bar fines and high girl rates. Don't go there. There are plenty of choices. You can choose to go to the high price places like EverythingThai likes to do, or you can go to the cheaper places and boycott the oligarchy.

Don't get my post wrong although negative doesn't one bit means it comes from the higher priced and I unwilling to pay it.

I said it again I don't care what you or anyone spend when I do go out because of my age and happy I don't have to get all work up over looks prices comfortable that I'm no sex machine reduced urge. If I want to spend the money I will do it and it won't be trying to complete with anyone. But right now I don't find the need to break my self boycott of many places.

As I noted seversl times I've been around all these guys like a fly on the wall heard first hand their plan which is what is happening now. I also have no problem naming the guy Brian Flowers. I like the GoGo, been to ALL of them I usually sit alone if I want to buy drinks I do in limitation or in abundance for girls I've know for long time. If I want their service have their number many I would give them the BF fee just so it doesn't go to the owners.

Last night out I checked out a few places particular Opium recommended by Banana the Man, came out ran into a old friend at IIvy, went in got her quota for old time sake. But I'm not doing some of these owners any favors.