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08-14-24 19:39 #15249Senior Member

Posts: 2386Elvis is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG
Au contraire. She's largely responsible for FOSTA and SESTA and shutting down Back Page. She's done a lot for illegal Latin American immigrants, looking to come to the USA to start a new life. She vastly improved Willie Brown's sex life.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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How are you supposed to feel smart if there aren't people out there you think are stupider than you? That's important to build self esteem and achieve life satisfaction. And there's nothing wrong with seeing hookers. What are you doing on this board anyway? Finally any red blooded American male will lie his ass off to get pussy. Are you gay or something?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Don't begrudge him Elvis. While not true, this is a good way for him to build his self esteem.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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What are you complaining about? You're not black. You lock up all the young black men like Kamala was doing and that means more ebony poontang for the rest of us! Thank you Kamala!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Telling people like Willie Brown? What's so bad about that? If my lady tells me I have a large penis and fakes orgasms, that's just icing on the cake.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Well by damn I hope she gets around to me soon. I can't wait to have that wench's tongue up my ass massaging my prostate.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Well of course she thought of Trump. It's women's intuition. And the truth is a lot scarier than what she paints it to be. Trump not only is going to destroy democracy and lead us to nuclear Armageddon, but he's also the leader of a colony of vampire bats. They're turning our children into blood suckers and yes, spreading rabies and disease. Another reason not to vote for Trump!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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And what's wrong with that? Who doesn't want to sit at home all day, watch television and eat bon bons and be taken care of by the State? Thank you Joe Biden and Kamala Harris!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Come on Elvis. Haven't you heard of tulip mania, the South Sea Bubble, Amway, and other classic money making schemes? There's still a lot laying on the table, ready to be scooped up. Warren's record cash holdings shouldn't be viewed as a bad omen by the way. That's the logical thing if you're in your 90's. Why hold on to a bunch of stocks when you can convert to cash and then use it to party, and bang lots of sugarbabies and high-dollar-hottie hookers?
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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I could go on, but I'm getting tired of this. Wise up Elvis.
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08-14-24 19:16 #15248Senior Member

Posts: 1745Corporate Welfare is very much alive...
W/R to the miseducation of Elvis 2008, that is certainly a topic for conversation for another day. A day, I hope I never have to see!
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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Your point is well made and I would add, that many of those titans, captains and lieutenants of industry, often also personally benefit immensely by moving into government jobs, even after very successful private industrial careers.
One of the most egregious and indelible examples of this, was Hank Paulson the chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, who IMHO, took the gov't job (Sec. of the Treasury under George W. Bush), simply to avoid paying taxes. Boat loads of taxes! The irony in 2008 was that, then George W. Bush, was "paying-off/out" his banker donors, with lucrative tax breaks, to the very people who caused the sub-prime crash of 2008.
In July 2006, Paulson, was able to dodge a tax hit of $200 million, in state and Federal capital gains taxes. By taking advantage of a (George H. W. Bush) 1989 one-time loophole, that gave candidates, in a handful of high level positions, the ability to liquidate his or her entire portfolio without paying a dime in capital gains taxes. Naturally, this was just another corporate welfare tax pretense, dress up to supposedly "attract talent" to gov't jobs.
Needless to say, despite any Repub, right-wing rhetoric or propaganda, about only one class of people receiving gov't welfare, is all bunk. Rest assured corporate welfare is alive, well and kicking (as shown in a previous post of mine, w/r to educating Elvis 2008).
IMHO, much like Trump, there are many men and women, that are less interested in servicing their country and more interested in benefiting and enriching themselves or their cronies (as you've made abundantly clear), off the backs of hard working Americans, they care nothing to very little about.
This casual like disdain, that billionaires and corporate welfare have for American workers, was clearly on display a couple days ago, during the glitchy, strange, rambling and cringy bromance "interview" between Trump & Musk.
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08-14-24 17:22 #15247Senior Member

Posts: 192Allan Lichtman 13 keys to winning the presidency
In 1991, Lichtman and coauthor Ken DeCell published The 13 Keys to the White House (Madison Books, 1991), a book laying out the 13-key forecasting system initially developed in 1981 by Lichtman and renowned mathematician Vladimir Keilis-Borok. They developed the keys based on their analysis of trends in presidential campaigns since 1860.
The 13 keys are simple to use: if 8 or more of the 13 keys are true for the incumbent party, its candidate will win the election—but if fewer than 8 are true, the challenger will win.
1. Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections. FALSE.
2. Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination. TRUE.
3. Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president. FALSE.
4. Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign. TRUE.
5. Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign. TRUE.
6. Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms. TRUE.
7. Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy. TRUE.
8. Social unrest: There is no sustained social unrest during the term. TRUE.
9. Scandal: The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal. TRUE.
10. Foreign / military failure: The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs. TRUE.
11. Foreign / military success: The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs. FALSE.
12. Incumbent charisma: The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero. TRUE.
13. Challenger charisma: The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero. FALSE.
9 out of 13 by mine count.
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08-14-24 16:17 #15246Senior Member

Posts: 7457Trump's slurring, lies and incoherence will only get worse after this
Cook Political Report is one of the more highly respected polling services:
https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/election
Swing State Project: August 14, 2024 Toplines
August 14, 2024
https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey...g2024-toplines
Trump leads Harris only in Nevada in these polls, +3 in the Head-to-Head, +5 in the 5-Way. This was before the audio interview of him and Musk laughing about how much fun it is to fire the American Working Men and Women for daring to expect to be fairly paid and treated, especially union workers.The Swing State Project is a collaboration between The Cook Political Report and two pollsters, BSG and GS Strategy Group. Below are the toplines from the August 2024 poll. In total, 2,867 likely voters across seven swing states (Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, North Carolina, Nevada, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin) completed the survey.
In the seven states combined, Vice President Kamala Harris leads former President Donald Trump in a head-to-head matchup 48% to 47%.
Trump should have canceled that Republican National Convention, promised to name a VP candidate "in two weeks" and remained silent and hidden in that last basement Men's Room stall he usually hides in when frightened.
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08-14-24 11:01 #15245Senior Member

Posts: 6685My education for you Elvis is gratis
With all due respect you do not know a thing about how things work in the US Government The idea is for individuals to rotate out of private industry and into the highest levels of government developing contacts with political figures and career government workers in order to further the salary and bonuses they get from their private employers. That is the revolving door of industry insiders.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Gary S. Gensler, is a former investment banker for Goldman Sachs. Can someone say get the fuck! He is Chairman of the SEC now.
You think the president of Goldman Sachs cannot call the Chairman of the SEC and have a private off the record conversation with him?
Nobody points shit like that out. But that is how it happens. So if Trump wins, watch how in fills government positions with those from the highest levels in private industry that are still on his good side.
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08-14-24 09:38 #15244Senior Member

Posts: 1745Excellent Resumes and Compelling Reasons for the Harris/Walz ticket...
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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Excellent Resumes for them both!
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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YES! What's not to like and love about the many, many, many accomplishments of the 14th Best President in US Presidential history. And the always supportive Veep Harris, doing her job as
the brilliant understudy.
I guess it good to have a boss who cares deeply for you and your career, and wants you to succeed. Verses one who brandishes you as a traitor, then tries to execute you, with an angry insurrectionist mob, brandishing a noose, flagpoles and sharp or blunt objects, to either have you hung, impaled or beaten to death.
Harris (in the article), has done some good work as VP, on things like immigration, voting rights, gun violence, maternal health care, abortion, broadband expansion, Juneteenth,
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/p...s/74534954007/
The tone deaf people, like Elvis 2008, that weirdly think Dems don't have strong and compelling reasons to vote for the Harris/Walz ticket, perhaps can explain why so many Repubs and Independents are now voting for Harris, under those same compelling reasons?
Harris/Walz are giving some red states pause and reasons enough for them to now be considered as new battle ground states that could fall. We are hearing from both Repubs and Dems, on the ground in states like Ohio, Texas and North Carolina, that Trump may not carry the day, in these states. And that they think these states are at worst, are "in-play" for Dems and at best are very much "up for grabs" and winnable".
Yes, Thanks again President Biden and Veep Harris, for giving Repubs and Independents, 99 reasons, but being a Dem by virtue, just ain't one!
- PS: Got to give Nikki Haley credit, as she maybe right about one thing, when she said:
"Most Americans do not want a rematch between Biden and Trump. So the first party to retire its 80 year old candidate, is going to be the party that wins this election."
We'll see in ROEvember! But it's a good thing Repubs, don't actually listen to their women and pay them lip service! (...kkkk!)
- PS: Got to give Nikki Haley credit, as she maybe right about one thing, when she said:
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08-14-24 05:04 #15243Senior Member

Posts: 7457Why?
Why do Repubs, Donald Trump and Elon Musk hate the American Working Men and Women so much?
UAW hits Musk, Trump with federal labor charges over union-busting comments.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/13/musk...ndroidappshare
Listening to the audio of slurring and lisping Trump and addle-brained Musk laughing about this you can actually hear the delight in these two "billionaire" con men criminals' voices in hating the American Working Men and Women.The United Auto Workers filed federal labor charges against Donald Trump and Elon Musk for their comments applauding the practice of firing employees who threaten to strike.
Under federal law, it is illegal to fire workers who threaten to strike.
Trump has been vying for the labor vote in the presidential race against Vice President Kamala Harris, though the UAW has already endorsed the vice president.
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08-14-24 04:21 #15242Senior Member

Posts: 7457LOL. That comparison sequence is hilarious. He knows his numbskull Repub base won't even notice or care.
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08-14-24 03:46 #15241Senior Member

Posts: 1745JD Vance or QAnon Shaman? ... Desperation or Genius?
With such terrific polling numbers trending well for the Harris/Walz campaign, I'm going to start a rumor, that many Repubs, are now are seriously considering, thinking and wondering, if it's too late, to do what the Dems did (since Repubs haven't had an original thought, in over a 100 years) and swap out Trump for Nikki Haley and JD Vance for "QAnon Shaman" (Jacob Chansley), to run a real campaign, out of his halfway house (...kkkk!)
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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At 78 yrs of age, Trump has never had to truly fight for anything in this life. I'm not sure he has any REAL fight in him. Typically, men and women with REAL fight, know they are innocent of the injustice charged against them and they are more than willing (even eager) to go to trial and prove their innocence.
Originally Posted by Checkmate1
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I think what you're now seeing is Trump, in "desperation mode". Now that the convict and felon, feels the election slipping away from him, desperation is starting to set in.
Plan B:
By some accounts, I think Trump has already begun to execute "Plan B." So what is "Plan B", you ask? Well, you guessed it:
- 1. more intensified verbal threats and gaslighting;
2. more accusations of other people cheating and committing fraudulent behavior;
3. throw yet another VP under the bus and blame JD Vance and other sycophants for his failures;
4. more accusations charging Biden...I mean Harris with election interference;
5. break glass in case of emergency and fire-up the 70+ pro-Trump election deniers in key battle ground states officiating the results, to muddy the election waters;
AND of course, last but not least:
6. proclaim everything else, is either fake, unfair, unconstitutional or stacked and rigged against him.
PS: Yes, there is "still a lot of time left" (as you've said), for Trumps lies, bullying, pretenses and QAnon/MAGA shenanigans of desperation!
- 1. more intensified verbal threats and gaslighting;
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08-13-24 16:50 #15240Senior Member

Posts: 192Still a lot of time left
The convict doesn't know to fight back yet. Everything he's doing is geared toward Biden, which was successful. But now, the campaign just sounds like a Rick Roll meme. Jon Stewart pointed this out at the 12:12 minutes mark of the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VW6tHIcGfc.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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08-13-24 11:34 #15239Senior Member

Posts: 7457You're right about something again, sort of.
The sad reality is, based on all Repub Administration policy and stewardship results for the past 100 years, as a Democrat, EVEN I would be a better president than any or all of the Repubs combined!
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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And that is even if I governed from my apartment, the restaurants and entertainment venues in Bangkok for the entire 8 years of my presidency.
By stark contrast, what Biden-Harris accomplished in just 3 1/2 years is truly stellar.
Among them:
23 of the Biden/Harris terms greatest accomplishments.
April 2, 2024
https://www.kanedems.org/2024/04/23-...united-states/
Thanks again, Joe and Kamala.
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08-13-24 08:38 #15238Senior Member

Posts: 7457OMG. It's a clean sweep for the Dems in these polls
For people who still enjoy considering the Polls, of course:
Three new Polling Services of enough credibility and quality for the 538 Site to post them and factor them into their Election Forecasts, Morning Consult, Big Village and The Bullfinch Group, have Harris / Walz beating Trump / Vance across the board in the Head-to-Heads and 5-Ways, among Registered Voters, Likely Voters, All Americans, on Favorability (all positive for Harris and Walz, all negative for Trump and Vance), etc in the General Election and in the critical Battlegound States of WI, MI and PA, along with every Senate race in those states going to the Dem.
Amazing:
Latest Polls, ending August 10, 2024.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/
The 538 Site has yet to re-activate their Who Is Favored To Win feature since the Repub Convention ended with a Lying Clown Crash and Joe Biden decided that was a good time to drop out of the race and shift his support and positive polling trends to his VP.
When they do, I presume Harris / Walz will top their Electoral Vote Forcast with well over 270 EVs and a sizable lead in the Popular Vote. Just as Biden / Harris had been doing quite often post-debate, in the final weeks before Biden dropped out and even during the Repub National Convention Lying Clown Show.
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08-13-24 04:23 #15237Senior Member

Posts: 4638You can stop there.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done. Between Spidy's two posts and your one, you have no reason to vote for her outside of her being a Democrat. You are just going to vote whoever the elites put out so why should we even have voting? We have already identified Spidy as a non-thinking authority humper. Maybe we should add you to the list too.
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08-13-24 04:15 #15236Senior Member

Posts: 4638First, you have all this venom. Jesus, I swear people have less despicable things to say about murderers on death row.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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The only justification for that kind of attitude is if you were tortured from 2016 to 2020. He was president for 4 years and you do not know what he stands for or how he will govern? Talk about pathetic. Your name calling reached epic levels with these two posts and yet nothing about Harris. Shit, you have no idea why you are voting for her.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Being force fed Covid? Shit, you dumb Dems did that for years. Given it cost us 2 years of freedom and $10 trillion and was a farce, I do not think it gets enough talk. You keep wanting to sweep it in the never mind pile.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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But that was not even what the question was about. It was about how you can be such an authority humper and not hate yourself with mongering being illegal. You did not talk about that, but I think it is pretty obvious now you are a follower and the people you follow tell you it is okay to call the 75 million people who voted for Trump stupid, that it is okay to see hookers, and that abortion is the most important issue in the world. Your group must be giving you some pussy to be pushing this mind numbing agenda.
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08-12-24 09:14 #15235Senior Member

Posts: 1745Culture War Nonsense and Railing Against Censorship?
(...kkkk!) Sure dude, if that's what you think you were saying. Frankly, your culture war rhetoric and percentages of what you think is someone racial or ethnic make up, is just nonsense. Pure Rubbish!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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Hey Elvis 2008, I also did NOT mention that Looney Tunes characters like, Buggs Bunny, Daffy Duck, Elmer Fudd, Foghorn Leghorn, Wile E. Coyote, The Road Runner and good ol' apple pie & ice cream, are American. But they are 100% American.
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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So what exactly is the culture war point you're trying to make?
Yeah, want now? Not sure of anything you just mentioned. So once again, my counterpoint to your culture war nonsense, was that Obama, Veep Harris and Sen. Elizabeth Warren are %100 American. PERIOD! No argument here!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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It's hilarious how you love to weave COVID in to everything...kkkk! Your answer to most everything these days is COVID this and COVID that...kkkk!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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Hey, weave whatever COVID narrative, into your gish gallop viewpoints about governments, mongerers, self-loathing and culture wars purple dinosaurs, if it helps you sleep at nights. Pray at the alter of COVID and worship the gods of Coronavirus, if it brings you peace. But your COVID rants, have always been just more gish gallop, to me.
Yeah, you're just such a censorship rebel without a pause. Well fell free to show us, how you make your own rules and follow no one rules but your own. Be a good censorship rebel why don't you, and show us how much of a censorship rebel you are?
But given all your ISG admin censorship gish gallop and misplaced rage has been, I don't recall even a peep outta your censorship-ass, when REAL censorship has taken place in any of your book burning / book banning Repub ruby red states. Not a freakin' peep! So please spare me your self-righteous indignation about "ISG censorship"!
(...kkkk!) Sure Elvis 2008...sure! And I'm sure that's what the big banks, big corporations and GM told themselves back in 2008, right!
Originally Posted by Elvis 2008
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- Let take a look at a history of Repubs and Dems being "taken care" of by U.S. government bailout of American corporations (and one city), calculated in 2008 dollars:
--Penn Central Railroad, 1970 ($3.3 billion), Lockheed 1971 ($1.4 billion),
--Franklin National Bank 1974 ($7.8 billion), New York 1975 ($9.6 billion),
--Chrysler 1980 ($4.0 billion), Continental Illinois National Bank and Trust Company 1985 ($9.5 billion),
--Savings & Loan 1989 ($293.3 billion), Airline Industry 2001 ($18.6.3 billion),
-- Bear Stearns 2008 ($30 billion), Fannie Mae / Freddie Mac 2008 ($400 billion),
--American International Group (A.I.G.) 2008 ($180 billion), Auto Industry 2008 ($25 billion),
--Troubled Asset Relief Program 2008 ($700 billion), Citigroup 2008 ($280 billion),
--Bank of America 2009 ($142.2 billion)
- Let take a look at a history of Repubs and Dems being "taken care" of by U.S. government bailout of American corporations (and one city), calculated in 2008 dollars:








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