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  1. #15262

    Thanks again, Joe and Kamala

    Of course, this is only happening because the polls are showing Trump might win. Oh. Not at all?

    Nevermind.

    Consumer spending jumped in July as retail sales were up 1%, much better than expected.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/15/reta...ndroidappshare

    Advanced retail sales accelerated 1% on the month, much better than the 0.3% estimate.

    In other economic news, weekly jobless claims totaled 227,000, a decrease of 7,000 from the previous week and lower than the estimate for 235,000.

    The reports come the same week as data showing that inflation eased slightly in July.
    A key metric shows prices normalizing: 'Mission accomplished,' economist says.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/14/pric...ndroidappshare

    Biden administration releases prices of 10 drugs in Medicare talks

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/15/medi...ndroidappshare

    The Biden administration released prices for the first 10 prescription drugs that were subject to landmark negotiations with Medicare.

    The government estimates that the new prices could produce $6 billion in net savings for Medicare in 2026 alone, based on data from 2023.

    It is a milestone in a controversial process that aims to make costly medications more affordable for older Americans, a policy the pharmaceutical industry has opposed.

    It comes one day before the second anniversary of President Joe Bidens signature Inflation Reduction Act.
    Harris to propose federal ban on 'corporate price-gouging' in food and groceries

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/15/harr...ndroidappshare

    Vice President Kamala Harris will propose the first-ever federal ban on corporate price-gouging in the food industry, her campaign announced.

    Harris will also pledge that if elected, she will direct the Justice Department to increase scrutiny of potential mergers between grocers and food producers.

    The ban is part of a broader effort by the Democratic presidential nominee to respond to voters ongoing frustration with the high cost of meat and groceries.

  2. #15261

    Harris / Dems Beat Trump / Repubs on uh on uh on Emerson?

    When the Emerson Poll has Harris and the Dems beating Trump and the Repubs, it is time for Trump's constant, career-defining public lying about everything all the time to become Super charged!

    LOL. His rally lies about how his economy was "the strongest in the history of the world" when in fact it was weaker than Biden's or Obama's and a few other potuses of the past few decades on every important metric even if you subtract his Historic Trump's Pandemic Disaster numbers (although there is no logical reason to do so) and that he "handed Biden a miracle economy and then he ruined it" when in fact he handed Biden-Harris among the top three worst economic conditions of the past Century (along with Hoover's and GW Bush's handoffs, one of which Biden was also key to producing one of the greatest recoveries of all time) and then Biden-Harris produced the greatest recovery from Trump's Pandemic's economic disaster and inflation on the planet, he might as well keep lying about how his poll numbers are ahead of Harris' "by a LOT", too!

    His numbskull cult-followers won't know the difference. And even if they do, nothing delights a Repub MAGA more than their boys and girls lying their asses off in service to weasling into office so they can again and again and again produce the worst economic and national security results in history.

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/election
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  3. #15260

    The 13 Keys to the White House

    Quote Originally Posted by CheckMate1  [View Original Post]
    In 1991, Lichtman and coauthor Ken DeCell published The 13 Keys to the White House (Madison Books, 1991), a book laying out the 13-key forecasting system initially developed in 1981 by Lichtman and renowned mathematician Vladimir Keilis-Borok. They developed the keys based on their analysis of trends in presidential campaigns since 1860.

    The 13 keys are simple to use: if 8 or more of the 13 keys are true for the incumbent party, its candidate will win the electionbut if fewer than 8 are true, the challenger will win.

    1. Party mandate: After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the US House of Representatives than after the previous midterm elections. FALSE.

    2. Contest: There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination. TRUE.

    3. Incumbency: The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president. FALSE.

    4. Third party: There is no significant third party or independent campaign. TRUE.

    5. Short term economy: The economy is not in recession during the election campaign. TRUE.

    6. Long term economy: Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the previous two terms. TRUE.

    7. Policy change: The incumbent administration effects major changes in national policy. TRUE.
    Unless I am mistaken, I think Lichtman usually frames it as, "If 6 or more of the Keys are False, the WH Party is predicted to lose. ".

    Looking at it that way, I would say:

    1. False.

    2.

    3. False.

    4.

    5.

    6.

    7.

    8.

    9.

    10. False. It is undeserved, but MSM went berserk blaming Biden and has never let up over 1 Taliban nut with a suicide bomb vest in Afghanistan getting past Taliban "security" and killing 13 USA Military in what is still the least deadly withdrawal from an occupied country by the losing side in war history.

    11. False, but there is a better than even chance Ukraine's latest moves will look more and more to the world like Russia is definitely losing. Even though neither that one nor Gaza / Israel is a USA war, such an outcome would add a point score to Biden. Personally, I would credit Biden for a major military success for keeping us out of any war anywhere for the past 3 1/2 years, for the first time in decades. And, of course, for leading the country to a win in Trump's War Against America and American Democracy in January 2021.

    12. False. Harris is very popular within her Party. But she shows no sign (yet) of being a historically charismatic cross-over candidate as in FDR or Reagan.

    13. (P. S. - See 12 above on steroids for Trump. Nobody outside of his MAGAs can stand him. He lost the Popular Vote twice already by a combined 10 million votes. He is really no FDR or Reagan).

    So with 6 or more False Keys being the danger zone for Harris, my count is 5 for now with a good chance that 1 of those 5 could flip True in the next month or two and near zero chance any of the others will go False before November.

    Had Mainstream Media not terrorized Dem campaign donors and down ballot Dem candidates over a few verbal gaffes, Biden would have retained the Incumbancy Key, still had all the others Harris has and would have been a 100% lock to win re-election, not even close.

    But Harris will still do well.

    LOL. In light of her critically important overwhelming popularity within the Dem Party, it is now even more hilarious that pro Repub pretend "bothsider" pundits like Bill Maher were begging Biden to drop out and take Harris with him since there is no way she would be a viable potus candidate, her being his VP pick from the beginning being another terrible decision by that "cognitively impaired" old man. LOL.

    BTW, I believe Lichtman's current count is more favorable for Harris than mine right now but says he will give his final count right after the Dem National Convention.

  4. #15259

    Harris / Walz handling the jabs like Champions...

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    It is always great for a laugh to hear anyone express concern about a Dem Administration with ANY particular Party conttol in the House and Senate doing serious damage to the American economy after EVERY Repub Administration of the past 100 years has produced and presided over the worst economic downsturns and series of downturns regardless which Party controls the House and Senate but certainly the worst of the worst when Repubs also control the House and the Senate. LOL.

    Meanwhile, nothing, zero, nada of the kind has ever happened when Dem Administrations also have Dem control of the House and the Senate. In fact, nothing but damn great results have occurred under that perfectly benign condition while nothing but horrific results have occurred when Repubs are in total control of all three.

    The great danger in blithely rooting for a Repub Majority in the House and / or Senate is then all it takes is one more blithering numbskull Electoral College quirk in one individual blithering numbskull Repub's favor to complete the Triumverate of Terror and Total Economic Disaster of a Repub in the White House with a Repub Majority House and Senate.

    That is too great a risk for any patriotic American to take when the Dem alternative has shown throughout history to produce zero downside risk of even a notable mild and momentary economic downturn.
    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Your "she may have started the war in Ukraine" lunacy notwithstanding, why on earth would you drop my name in your diatribe? I'm not in awe with Kamala Harris. I said in this very forum that I would've been happier with another candidate who's more their own person and not mostly known as a sidekick.

    That said, Kamala Harris is the only person currently standing between Donald Trump and America.

    You know my take on Donald Trump. He is a calamity. I think if elected again, Donald Trump will attempt to end our democracy and way of life. This is my EDUCATED guess based on what he already did or tried to do between 2016 and 2020, the period that might be dubbed by future historians Orwellian or Putinesque, or probably both.

    Since you do know how I feel about Donald Trump, what else am I supposed to do? For a sane person, there is no real choice between Kamala and Trump even if the former might be lacking somewhat as a presidential candidate.
    I expected as much. As all the fake bluster, bunk and bullshit w/r to the Harris/Walz ticket, is just Repubs, trying to find and suss out, what will stick to the wall.

    Personally, I love how the Harris/Walz ticket is handling, the often juvenile and nonsensical comments coming from the dysfunctional Repub campaign, who have yet to announce what plans, polices or political stances there running on. Which we all know they don't have any policies or plans, just more cheap rhetoric.

    The Harris/Walz ticket, has them disoriented and still reeling from the campaign jabs of being called "weird" (which BTW, was so apropos!). The other campaign's jabs haven't landed a single blow yet and for the last 3-weeks have only gotten tired, stale and "punch drunk".

  5. #15258

    Its the Democrats SOP

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    And Robert Rubin took it under Clinton. Big deal. That is my point. The only people wanting to go into government today are the ones who do get the big payouts.

    Well, here is another one who loved being in politics. Dolton Mayor Tiffany Aiesha Henyard, who has been dubbed "America's Worst Mayor", has disappeared after an investigation into the village's spending revealed more than $3. 5 million in debt, "out of control" credit card spending and $40,000 spend on Amazon purchases in one day.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/do...on-hidden-debt

    And then there is disgraced mayor Lori Lightfoot making $400 an hour investigating the worst mayor. Yeah, well, she knows a thing or two about corruption after being Chicago's mayor..
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/illinois-...-chicken-wings

    https://amp-marca-com.cdn.ampproject...331AQGsAEggAID#amp_tf=From%20%251%24's&aoh=17236564440974&csi=0&referrer=https%3 A%2 F%2 F www.google.com&ampshare=https%3 A%2 F%2 Fwww.marca.com%2 Fen%2 Fnfl%2 Fkansas-city-chiefs%2 F2024%2 F08%2 F14%2 F66 bc078 de2704 e49888 b4597. Html.

  6. #15257

    Harris has Trump "knocked off his bearings, disoriented... " and in a rope-a-dope?

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Trump's slurring, lies and incoherence will only get worse after this

    Cook Political Report is one of the more highly respected polling services:

    https://www.realclearpolling.com/latest-polls/election

    Swing State Project: August 14, 2024 Toplines
    August 14, 2024


    https://www.cookpolitical.com/survey...g2024-toplines

    Trump leads Harris only in Nevada in these polls, +3 in the Head-to-Head, +5 in the 5-Way. This was before the audio interview of him and Musk laughing about how much fun it is to fire the American Working Men and Women for daring to expect to be fairly paid and treated, especially union workers.

    Trump should have canceled that Republican National Convention, promised to name a VP candidate "in two weeks" and remained silent and hidden in that last basement Men's Room stall he usually hides in when frightened.
    Yep, "remaining silent and hidden", would have definitely been more preferable for Repub chances at winning. But luckily for Dems, being loud, obnoxious and an insufferable slurring drama queen, is Trump's strong suits. And coincidentally, it would seem, tied to his polling, over the past several weeks.

    The more the Repub drama queen, lies about things like "crowd sizes" and drones on about death by electric boats vs. sharks, the more his polls tank and the more Repubs and Independents, cross over to the Harris/Walz ticket. Quite frankly, I'm in favor of keeping him talking! (...kkkk!)

    NYT - The worst Three Weeks of Donald Trump's 2024 campaign, yet!...one unforced error after another

    "People around the former and would-be president see a candidate knocked off his bearings, disoriented by his new contest with Kamala Harris and unsure of how to take her on...Nearly three weeks since she became his Democratic opponent, Mr. Trump and his campaign are still struggling to settle on how to define Ms. Harris, what message with which to attack her, and even what nickname with which to belittle her...

    Outside advisers and allies have also called Mr. Trump to impress on him the political peril of continuing with those kinds of attacks...stick to policy contrasts, rather than personal attacks, and to treat Ms. Harris as a formidable adversary, as he had Mrs. Clinton.

    That advice has gone unheeded."

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/10/u...-election.html


    Repubs are just adorably gullible, when it comes to Trump, as they continue to hold out hope, that somehow, he'll finally become the conservative "presidential" candidate, they so desperately desire.

  7. #15256

    A serious book recommendation for Elvis and Tiny

    The world's non Repub MAGAs already know all about this and don't really need to read or listen to this book to know everything in it.

    But it would no doubt come as a total shock for low information suc, er I mean, emotion-driven cult-followers, er I mean "conservatives" to realize what was done to them:

    Ministry of Truth.
    Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past.


    https://www.msnbc.com/ministryoftruth

    Republicans exposed for adopting Trump's gaslighting tactic to avoid harsh political realities.

    Rachel Maddow talks with Steve Benen, MaddowBlog editor and author of "Ministry of Truth: Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans' War on the Recent Past," about how Republicans have grown increasingly comfortable simply denying inconvenient facts or constructing false histories to avoid having to deal with being associated with unpopular policies and events.
    Ministry of Truth: Democracy, Reality, and the Republicans War on the Recent Past.

    http://www.publishersweekly.com/9780063393677

    The Republican Party is waging a frantic gaslighting campaign to rewrite the stories that have unfolded over the last several years, according to this illuminating account from Benen (The Impostors) a producer of The Rachel Maddow Show.
    Pointing to polls showing that a majority of Republican voters believe that Trump made no effort to overturn the 2020 election, among other misbeliefs that absolve Donald Trump from wrongdoing and exaggerate his successes as president, Benen delves into how the Republican playbook of historical revisionism has evolved in recent years to make such lies possible to perpetuate.

    While much of it comes down to Trumps habitual lying and self-aggrandizing being repeated as fact on right-leaning outlets like Fox News, Benen also spotlights Republican politicians who have entered Trumps alternate reality and begun generating their own pro-Trump spin, like Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who claimed the Jan. 6 insurrectionists were fake Trump protesters, and New York congresswoman Elise Stefanik, who asserted that the FBIs search for classified documents at Mar-a-Lago was part of a hoax. While Benen, true to form, spends slightly too much time on Russia-related events, his account is well sourced and covers a lot of ground.

    This cogent survey of the Trumpist lie factory is worth checking out for more than just fans of Maddow. (Aug.)
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  8. #15255

    Elvis, Elvis!

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    You got me! https://www.fastcompany.com/91167281...ge-fosta-sesta.

    Now we just have to see why with Tooms, Spidy, and Xpartan and all the other mongers think this does not matter. My bet is they think it is other men not them. Kamala knows how special they are.

    It just cracks me up that these dummies think Kamala is on their side. Yeah, she was good for WB's sex life. Then as soon as she was Attorney General she said he was the first one she would lock up for anything. Then Biden chooses her as VP. After 3 years, she turns on him and was willing to hit him with the 25th amendment if he did not step down. And all those freedom loving pot smoking black men who voted for her saw her turn her back on them as well. And before all them, her father disowned her. I do not think it is possible for a woman to hate men more than Kamala does. Before you go into a relationship, you look for red flags, and the biggest red flag with a woman is one with daddy issues.


    Well, she did do something else. She may have started the war in Ukraine by tweeting this before the war, When I was in Poland, I met with USA And Polish service members, thanking them for standing with our NATO allies for freedom, peace, and security. The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people and in defense of the NATO alliance.

    That is enough of a reason for Xpartan to vote for her.
    Your "she may have started the war in Ukraine" lunacy notwithstanding, why on earth would you drop my name in your diatribe? I'm not in awe with Kamala Harris. I said in this very forum that I would've been happier with another candidate who's more their own person and not mostly known as a sidekick.

    That said, Kamala Harris is the only person currently standing between Donald Trump and America.

    You know my take on Donald Trump. He is a calamity. I think if elected again, Donald Trump will attempt to end our democracy and way of life. This is my EDUCATED guess based on what he already did or tried to do between 2016 and 2020, the period that might be dubbed by future historians Orwellian or Putinesque, or probably both.

    Since you do know how I feel about Donald Trump, what else am I supposed to do? For a sane person, there is no real choice between Kamala and Trump even if the former might be lacking somewhat as a presidential candidate.

  9. #15254

    Lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Good post Elvis. She's wisely saying as little as possible. She's running a "Chance the Gardener" campaign, if you remember the movie "Being There. " Indeed some of our fellow board members, the Kamala supporters, seem to suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. As an advocate of criminal justice reform, free markets, and a viable domestic oil and gas industry, I believe she sucks.

    I don't like Trump and I won't vote for him. But the world's not going to come to an end if he's elected. I don't believe it will either if Kamala is elected, PROVIDED Republicans control the Senate and / or House. She could wreck havoc though if she decides to do something like handicap fossil fuels to the point where we're paying California-like prices for energy. The worst case scenario is if it's a clean Democratic Party sweep. Then there will be hell to pay. And we won't have Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin protecting the Democratic Party from its worst instincts.
    It is always great for a laugh to hear anyone express concern about a Dem Administration with ANY particular Party conttol in the House and Senate doing serious damage to the American economy after EVERY Repub Administration of the past 100 years has produced and presided over the worst economic downsturns and series of downturns regardless which Party controls the House and Senate but certainly the worst of the worst when Repubs also control the House and the Senate. LOL.

    Meanwhile, nothing, zero, nada of the kind has ever happened when Dem Administrations also have Dem control of the House and the Senate. In fact, nothing but damn great results have occurred under that perfectly benign condition while nothing but horrific results have occurred when Repubs are in total control of all three.

    The great danger in blithely rooting for a Repub Majority in the House and / or Senate is then all it takes is one more blithering numbskull Electoral College quirk in one individual blithering numbskull Repub's favor to complete the Triumverate of Terror and Total Economic Disaster of a Repub in the White House with a Repub Majority House and Senate.

    That is too great a risk for any patriotic American to take when the Dem alternative has shown throughout history to produce zero downside risk of even a notable mild and momentary economic downturn.

  10. #15253
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    You got me! https://www.fastcompany.com/91167281...ge-fosta-sesta.

    Now we just have to see why with Tooms, Spidy, and Xpartan and all the other mongers think this does not matter. My bet is they think it is other men not them....
    Good post Elvis. She's wisely saying as little of substance as possible, even with the teleprompter. She's running a "Chance the Gardener" campaign, if you remember the movie "Being There." Indeed some of our fellow board members, the Kamala supporters, seem to suffer from Stockholm Syndrome. As an advocate of criminal justice reform, free markets, and a viable domestic oil and gas industry, I believe she sucks.

    I don't like Trump and I won't vote for him. But the world's not going to come to an end if he's elected.

    I don't believe it will either if Kamala is elected, PROVIDED Republicans control the Senate and / or House. From the fiscal perspective (deficits and the national debt), that might be a decent outcome. She could wreck havoc though if she decides to do something like handicap fossil fuels to the point where we're paying California-like prices for energy.

    The worst case scenario is if it's a clean Democratic Party sweep. Then there will be hell to pay. And we won't have Kyrsten Sinema and Joe Manchin protecting the Democratic Party from its worst instincts.

  11. #15252

    You got me!

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    Au contraire. She's largely responsible for FOSTA and SESTA and shutting down Back Page.
    You got me! https://www.fastcompany.com/91167281...ge-fosta-sesta.

    Now we just have to see why with Tooms, Spidy, and Xpartan and all the other mongers think this does not matter. My bet is they think it is other men not them. Kamala knows how special they are.

    It just cracks me up that these dummies think Kamala is on their side. Yeah, she was good for WB's sex life. Then as soon as she was Attorney General she said he was the first one she would lock up for anything. Then Biden chooses her as VP. After 3 years, she turns on him and was willing to hit him with the 25th amendment if he did not step down. And all those freedom loving pot smoking black men who voted for her saw her turn her back on them as well. And before all them, her father disowned her. I do not think it is possible for a woman to hate men more than Kamala does. Before you go into a relationship, you look for red flags, and the biggest red flag with a woman is one with daddy issues.

    Of course, that does not mean that women are in the clear. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-script-kamala.

    Call it Kamala's "Mean Girls" strategy: Turn the 2024 presidential campaign into an election for prom queen. ("Mean Girls" is Tina Fey's brilliant political allegory about a high school girl named Regina George who leverages her looks, gossip, and adolescent insecurities and cravings to rule over the student body until the uncool kids topple her to restore their freedom.).

    Harris' strategy is to win by being cool, not by being competent. Democrats aren't even trying to prove that she has the brains, judgment, and gravitas to be the leader of the free world. Instead, they're embracing her skin-deep nature, highlighting her energy and appearance, and building her campaign on a foundation of social memes, social standing and social ridicule, too.

    For example, when British pop star Charlie XCX said that "Kamala is brat" cool-girl slang for someone who's disorganized and says dumb things, but powers through it and gets what she wants anyway Kamala's campaign immediately embraced the meme.

    Kamala wasn't cool in June before the Hollywood / media / cultural clique unified around their newly anointed leader. But her social standing soared when glamorous Hollywood stars showered her with money and love, and beautiful anchors and hip commentators on all mainstream media outlets gushed over her in unison while burying any talk of previous policies and statements.

    Her first anti-Trump riposte is right out of the movie, too, as she and her parroting cool clique seek to make Trump and J. The. Vance as socially toxic as high school Mathletes. "They're weird!" the Queen and her acolytes say in unison (and everyone knows it's social suicide to like people who are weird)!

    End of link. So she is a mean girl and her female staff would certainly vouch to that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tiny12  [View Original Post]
    I could go on, but I'm getting tired of this. Wise up Elvis.
    To be honest, she and her campaign are so fucking pathetic, I almost want her to win. There would be no Reagan without Carter. She has this amazing hooker like projection of making it sound like you are special and she is so on your side when she has no clue what your side even is. She will tell you whatever you want. I would expect that this kind of hooker talk from her, "OMG, I have never been with a man as big as you".

    Thing is Kamala had this interview with Lester Holt. It was about as softball as you can get but even he is like see'Mon. Kamala, you have not been to the border.

    And her response was, "You haven't been to the border?" "I haven't been to Europe" said Kamala. They are not related at all. ".

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omrMRP15q9M

    Again, it is what you would expect if you interviewed a high end provider about the border.

    Well, she did do something else. She may have started the war in Ukraine by tweeting this before the war, When I was in Poland, I met with USA And Polish service members, thanking them for standing with our NATO allies for freedom, peace, and security. The United States stands firmly with the Ukrainian people and in defense of the NATO alliance.

    That is enough of a reason for Xpartan to vote for her.

    To quote Bill Murray, so she has that going for her which is nice.

  12. #15251
    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    One of the most egregious and indelible examples of this, was Hank Paulson the chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, who IMHO, took the gov't job (Sec. of the Treasury under George W. Bush), simply to avoid paying taxes. Boat loads of taxes! The irony in 2008 was that, then George W. Bush, was "paying-off/out" his banker donors, with lucrative tax breaks, to the very people who caused the sub-prime crash of 2008.
    And Robert Rubin took it under Clinton. Big deal. That is my point. The only people wanting to go into government today are the ones who do get the big payouts.

    Well, here is another one who loved being in politics. Dolton Mayor Tiffany Aiesha Henyard, who has been dubbed "America's Worst Mayor", has disappeared after an investigation into the village's spending revealed more than $3. 5 million in debt, "out of control" credit card spending and $40,000 spend on Amazon purchases in one day.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/do...on-hidden-debt

    And then there is disgraced mayor Lori Lightfoot making $400 an hour investigating the worst mayor. Yeah, well, she knows a thing or two about corruption after being Chicago's mayor.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...en-worse-mayor

    And then there was Fani Willis who was using tax dollars to pay off and screw her BF on the public dole. https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...evastates-fani.

    Of course, Fani may have learned this trick from Kamala. For getting off Willie Brown, she landed jobs worth six figures at taxpayer expense. Yeah, Tooms, I got to say when you say Democrats create jobs, they are really good at creating these types of jobs.

    And I wonder what exactly do these four pols have in common? Hmm. Yeah, they were all Democrats but maybe there is something else. Oh yeah, I forgot.

    The one thing we can say those is all four of those Democratic pols get the Tooms seal of approval. You can do no wrong if you are a Democrat.

  13. #15250

    Rebel Without a Pause...

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    The only justification for that kind of attitude is if you were tortured from 2016 to 2020. He was president for 4 years and you do not know what he stands for or how he will govern? Talk about pathetic. Your name calling reached epic levels with these two posts and yet nothing about Harris. Shit, you have no idea why you are voting for her.
    W/R to Veep Harris, see recent post http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2937212 and the USA Today article.

    So once again (I ask for the 2nd time), remind me what exactly does Trump stands for, other than tax-cuts for the rich and "drill baby drill", as he and Musk, laugh and besmirch working class Americans?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis 2008  [View Original Post]
    But that was not even what the question was about. It was about how you can be such an authority humper and not hate yourself with mongering being illegal. You did not talk about that, but I think it is pretty obvious now you are a follower and the people you follow tell you it is okay to call the 75 million people who voted for Trump stupid, that it is okay to see hookers, and that abortion is the most important issue in the world. Your group must be giving you some pussy to be pushing this mind numbing agenda.
    Well that was a weak and muted response! Wasn't very "rebellious" and "rebel" like, now was it?

    That response was very much indicative of the Trump/Vance campaign, that has gone from "hero to zero", in no time at all.

    Where did that so called "censorship rebel" disappear to? The dude, who's fighting for the poor, weak and oppressed ISGers, suffering under your delusional so called, "brutal ISG Administration regime"?

    You know the "censorship rebel", that has vowed to liberate and free the oppressed and enslaved ISG masses? Where's that guy??? (...kkkk!)

    With the latest Trump/Roger Stone/RNC hack, by Iranians (according to the FBI) and sensitive campaign information has been leaked to the media/pubic, Repubs are now advocating that the contents of the hack should not be used as political ammunition, considering the source of the information comes from one of "our" staunch enemies. Remind you of anything?

    Yes, much like the hypocrisy of Elvis 2008's so called ISG sensorship fake outrage and being censured, it was never something that he or Repubs every pay attention to, UNTIL of course, it happens to them.

    Back in 2016, Trump and Repubs didn't hesitate to use the Russian backed leaked emails to WikiLeaks, taken from the hacked Clinton/DNC servers, by "our" (but apparently not one of Trump's) enemies, to enhance his campaign's chances of winning.

    Today the Repubs, want the media and Dems, to give them the courtesy and goodwill, they NEVER give Hillary Clinton in 2016. Yet more hypocrisy from the Repubs.

    Meanwhile, across the country, REAL censorship is taking place, primarily by Repubs in red states. Dictionaries and classic literary works, such as "The Catcher in the Rye", "The Grapes of Wrath", "To Kill a Mockingbird" and "The Bluest Eye", are being banned, to serve a backward Repub/QAnon/MAGA political, Project 2025 agenda.

    So tell me again, Elvis 2008, is it all forms of censorship you despise or only when in applies you, like the recent Trump/RNC hack?

  14. #15249

    Elvis is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Yes, she has accomplished so much you cannot name one damn thing she has done.
    Au contraire. She's largely responsible for FOSTA and SESTA and shutting down Back Page. She's done a lot for illegal Latin American immigrants, looking to come to the USA to start a new life. She vastly improved Willie Brown's sex life.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    ...it is okay to call the 75 million people who voted for Trump stupid, that it is okay to see hookers, and that abortion is the most important issue in the world. Your group must be giving you some pussy to be pushing this mind numbing agenda.
    How are you supposed to feel smart if there aren't people out there you think are stupider than you? That's important to build self esteem and achieve life satisfaction. And there's nothing wrong with seeing hookers. What are you doing on this board anyway? Finally any red blooded American male will lie his ass off to get pussy. Are you gay or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Elvis, you are stupid. Trump is stupid, and Democrats are American.
    Don't begrudge him Elvis. While not true, this is a good way for him to build his self esteem.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    For black people, it needs to be said Kamala's black father disowned her. She was putting black men in jail right and left. Particularly with black men, she needs to be told she is not your friend. According to her birth certificate, she is 25% black, and the only reason she claims to be black is she wants your vote. For God's sake, her relatives owned slaves. I have not seen that point be made.
    What are you complaining about? You're not black. You lock up all the young black men like Kamala was doing and that means more ebony poontang for the rest of us! Thank you Kamala!

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    All she is doing is going around telling people what they want to hear....chameleon Kamala.
    Telling people like Willie Brown? What's so bad about that? If my lady tells me I have a large penis and fakes orgasms, that's just icing on the cake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    She kissed Willie Brown's ass. She kissed Biden's ass and now she is kissing the ass of the American people.
    Well by damn I hope she gets around to me soon. I can't wait to have that wench's tongue up my ass massaging my prostate.

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    So Matt Taibbi posts this about a woman who has a bat fly into her house and somehow find a way to blame Trump and somehow got her in story in the NYT:

    The New York Times ran a guest editorial by Belle Boggs, a North Carolina author who had a bat fly in her house. It didn't bite her, but she needed a sheriff's deputy, a county health nurse, state animal control, the CDC, and an E. Are. Doctor to tell her what to do about that. Naturally, the episode led her to think of Donald Trump:

    Now this is what she wrote: After our visit from the bat, our sheriff's department, public health department and university hospital all functioned exactly as designed. The see. The. See. , a huge federal agency that works to protect every one of us from infectious disease, food-borne illness and emerging threats like bird flu, pulled through. The see. The. See. Is part of what Mr. Trump's allies would call the administrative state and is in the cross hairs of Project 2025, which proposes breaking up the agency. I want to believe Kamala Harris is right when she says "we are not going back" to a time when every calamity leaves us on our own.

    Back to Taibbi: The conundrum of the column is that the author, who wrote a book called The Art of Waiting: On Fertility, Medicine, and Motherhood, does not know if she and her husband need rabies shots. She's sure the bat "hadn't gotten near our daughters," but uncertainties reign elsewhere. "How deep a sleeper are you?" the county health nurse asks, reminding Boggs the window to act is short. Author and husband ultimately spend $600 in co-pays to get shots and realize they've lived through another experience reminding them of the need to vote blue, at which point the column is written.

    And here is his point: The real-life decision tree is simpler. If you know you're too much of a compulsive thinker to get through days of wondering if a rabid bat bit you in your sleep, you don't need the CDC to tell you you need to pay the $600, get the shots, and buy peace of mind.

    So this is how dumb Democrats have gotten. They cannot make decisions. They have to have government decide for that. The interesting thing is I would agree with her on the CDC "functioning as designed" but she thinks that means the CDC serves her, and I am like shaking my head and asking. Really? After Covid? So I did a deep dive on how the CDC is functioning with rabies.
    Well of course she thought of Trump. It's women's intuition. And the truth is a lot scarier than what she paints it to be. Trump not only is going to destroy democracy and lead us to nuclear Armageddon, but he's also the leader of a colony of vampire bats. They're turning our children into blood suckers and yes, spreading rabies and disease. Another reason not to vote for Trump!

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    So yeah, I do think there is a huge difference with Democrats and Republicans on this issue. Democrats want to be taken care of by government while Republicans want the government to leave us alone.
    And what's wrong with that? Who doesn't want to sit at home all day, watch television and eat bon bons and be taken care of by the State? Thank you Joe Biden and Kamala Harris!

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    LOL. Well, teach, you could have made the point that one of Warren Buffet's indicators, the market cap to GDP ratio, was at an all time high. https://www.longtermtrends.net/marke...ett-indicator/
    Come on Elvis. Haven't you heard of tulip mania, the South Sea Bubble, Amway, and other classic money making schemes? There's still a lot laying on the table, ready to be scooped up. Warren's record cash holdings shouldn't be viewed as a bad omen by the way. That's the logical thing if you're in your 90's. Why hold on to a bunch of stocks when you can convert to cash and then use it to party, and bang lots of sugarbabies and high-dollar-hottie hookers?

    I could go on, but I'm getting tired of this. Wise up Elvis.

  15. #15248

    Corporate Welfare is very much alive...

    Quote Originally Posted by SubCmdr  [View Original Post]
    With all due respect you do not know a thing about how things work in the US Government The idea is for individuals to rotate out of private industry and into the highest levels of government developing contacts with political figures and career government workers in order to further the salary and bonuses they get from their private employers. That is the revolving door of industry insiders.

    Gary S. Gensler, is a former investment banker for Goldman Sachs. Can someone say get the fuck! He is Chairman of the SEC now.

    You think the president of Goldman Sachs cannot call the Chairman of the SEC and have a private off the record conversation with him?

    Nobody points shit like that out. But that is how it happens. So if Trump wins, watch how in fills government positions with those from the highest levels in private industry that are still on his good side.
    W/R to the miseducation of Elvis 2008, that is certainly a topic for conversation for another day. A day, I hope I never have to see!

    Your point is well made and I would add, that many of those titans, captains and lieutenants of industry, often also personally benefit immensely by moving into government jobs, even after very successful private industrial careers.

    One of the most egregious and indelible examples of this, was Hank Paulson the chairman and CEO of Goldman Sachs, who IMHO, took the gov't job (Sec. of the Treasury under George W. Bush), simply to avoid paying taxes. Boat loads of taxes! The irony in 2008 was that, then George W. Bush, was "paying-off/out" his banker donors, with lucrative tax breaks, to the very people who caused the sub-prime crash of 2008.

    In July 2006, Paulson, was able to dodge a tax hit of $200 million, in state and Federal capital gains taxes. By taking advantage of a (George H. W. Bush) 1989 one-time loophole, that gave candidates, in a handful of high level positions, the ability to liquidate his or her entire portfolio without paying a dime in capital gains taxes. Naturally, this was just another corporate welfare tax pretense, dress up to supposedly "attract talent" to gov't jobs.

    Needless to say, despite any Repub, right-wing rhetoric or propaganda, about only one class of people receiving gov't welfare, is all bunk. Rest assured corporate welfare is alive, well and kicking (as shown in a previous post of mine, w/r to educating Elvis 2008).

    IMHO, much like Trump, there are many men and women, that are less interested in servicing their country and more interested in benefiting and enriching themselves or their cronies (as you've made abundantly clear), off the backs of hard working Americans, they care nothing to very little about.

    This casual like disdain, that billionaires and corporate welfare have for American workers, was clearly on display a couple days ago, during the glitchy, strange, rambling and cringy bromance "interview" between Trump & Musk.

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