Bangkok Reports

[UglyAzzMan]

Yes, I have no doubt things would be immensely easier if I could really speak Thai, rather than just being able to fake it for 10 seconds. One fiwfans girl mentioned I could pay an extra 1000 while we were doing it, which I was ok with, but she said I could not CIP and I declined (I've had a vasectomy, so I don't need to worry about getting anyone pregnant anymore, though I of course understand anyone could say that and a girl does not have a reason to believe every random schmuck who says it). I've offered a tip to one or two others as we were doing it, but they both refused it. Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.

As to why fiwfans: the evening before I arrived at Nana plaza at what I thought would be a quite early time,11 pm, and went through the 4-5 bars recommended by someone here, without seeing anyone I thought was pretty. A bit later I did the same at Cowboy, with the same result.
Admittedly you are right in that I do feel some thrill in not knowing exactly who will open the door, but honestly I would much prefer it to be the girl in the photos than whatever thrill there is. Though, with more experience in reading the reviews I have gotten fewer bad surprises. This year they have all been decent looking (7 or up).

As for paying an inflated price for the fiwfans girl, I don't feel I did that, except the big dick charge which was a bit annoying, but fortunately I don't get that ofen (only once before, where the girl outright refused as I mentioned).

Neither for the massage/BJ. I don't think you will get a BJ for less than 1000 on the thong lo - nana stretch in a massage shop, at least not without having luck and trying hard, so not sure what you mean about that. That I could instead get up and go somewhere else and pay a similar price, or a bit more for FS? Yeah, I could, but it's nice to just lay down and have a massage for an hour or two, and finish with a BJ (or FS if she is good looking) there and then, rather than get up and go somewhere else.

1600 for 60 minutes with the fiwfans girl, + 300-400 for CIM, as is often listed. And if I add in the "big dick" surcharge from yesterdays girl (linly is her listed name, BTW), a total of 2300 for a 20 yo girl I'd rate as an 8, though normally it would be less than 2000, as I'm not exactly hung like John Holmes.

On the other hand, I simply do not see anyone looking anything close to that in nana or soi cowboy. Maybe they are there, somewhere, but there is a limit to the glasses of orange juice I can drink in each bar while looking for her. And even after spending an hour or two doing that, if I can find her, I'd have to pay 1000 + 3000 to take her out. I much prefer to arrange things so that I bts / mrt out somewhere and bang a fiwfans girl while on the way to / from something else in the daytime.

T-Ded 99 sounds interesting and possibly I'll check it out on a weekend.

11 pm Nana Plaza only Dregs of Nana are left. Get your aZZ in at 930 pm.

[EverythingThai]

Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.

I build a rapport with the ladies by speaking Thai. I call them in line or direct on the phone. I tell the booker I will give them a tip if they let me speak to the lady. Some ladies don't have an admin so then it makes things even easier. Many admins know me in Fiw Fans. Then I do the following:

Now for me, I will just get this out of the way now so we never need to think about it again. I am an over-payer. Yes, thats right. When I see a girl I like, I make an offer she cant refuse for the services I want, end of story. Other girls know this about me and often will even go with me without even discussing price or services. Why ? Because they know I will take care of them, but only if they give me what I want with no drama. It has worked for me for the last 25 years in Asia. This ensures me of a great night. This no nonsense style of mongering in Pattaya and Bangkok has served me well.

I practice this is all the mongering I do in Asia.

[NRandom940]

No, but the owner of the bar owns a hotel opposite and when you pay the 2500 it includes the room in that hotel.

Is there a reason I would want to go to this place and pay 2500? Just because it's cheaper than Nana. But still more expensive than Pattaya?

[FernandoAlonso]

Does T-Ded 99 have ST rooms on-site?

No, opposite is a hotel, price included. Just scroll 1 page back. It is all written here.

[EverythingThai]

Does T-Ded 99 have ST rooms on-site?

No, but the owner of the bar owns a hotel opposite and when you pay the 2500 it includes the room in that hotel.

[NRandom940]

T-Ded 99 sounds interesting and possibly I'll check it out on a weekend.

Please report back after you do.

[Werqweq]

I have a question if you don't mind. You say that with Fiw fans you are never sure what you are going to get. So, I am just curious why you prefer it say maybe over the TF FLs or a go go lady or a massage lady or beer bar ladies in BKK. Don't say it's the price because in both instances in your post, you paid over 1000 Baht for a BJ and a massage and an inflated rate for a Fiw fans girl that you may or may not get BBFS with. Makes no sense. Do you like playing in the Thai pond for a thrill? Do you think these girls are better looking? Do you think the prices are lower really even after you paid these prices?

If I was you, I would check out T-Ded 99 as you will find it easy to get BBFS, the girls are hot and the prices are good. You can also see what you are getting in real life without photo shopped images.

Maybe I can see why you do it now? I bet it's because you just like the adventure and the thrill of Fiw Fans. Never knowing what you will actually get.

For me, I always get BBFS on Fiw Fans. Why? Because I negotiate for it in Thai language. This goes a long way. Even google translate is not the same as you speaking Thai in the eyes of the The girl. They just feel more comfortable with you when you speak Thai.

Yes, I have no doubt things would be immensely easier if I could really speak Thai, rather than just being able to fake it for 10 seconds. One fiwfans girl mentioned I could pay an extra 1000 while we were doing it, which I was ok with, but she said I could not CIP and I declined (I've had a vasectomy, so I don't need to worry about getting anyone pregnant anymore, though I of course understand anyone could say that and a girl does not have a reason to believe every random schmuck who says it). I've offered a tip to one or two others as we were doing it, but they both refused it. Maybe you can tell me how you do it? Always, or even most of the time, is impressive to me.

As to why fiwfans: the evening before I arrived at Nana plaza at what I thought would be a quite early time,11 pm, and went through the 4-5 bars recommended by someone here, without seeing anyone I thought was pretty. A bit later I did the same at Cowboy, with the same result.
Admittedly you are right in that I do feel some thrill in not knowing exactly who will open the door, but honestly I would much prefer it to be the girl in the photos than whatever thrill there is. Though, with more experience in reading the reviews I have gotten fewer bad surprises. This year they have all been decent looking (7 or up).

As for paying an inflated price for the fiwfans girl, I don't feel I did that, except the big dick charge which was a bit annoying, but fortunately I don't get that ofen (only once before, where the girl outright refused as I mentioned).

Neither for the massage/BJ. I don't think you will get a BJ for less than 1000 on the thong lo - nana stretch in a massage shop, at least not without having luck and trying hard, so not sure what you mean about that. That I could instead get up and go somewhere else and pay a similar price, or a bit more for FS? Yeah, I could, but it's nice to just lay down and have a massage for an hour or two, and finish with a BJ (or FS if she is good looking) there and then, rather than get up and go somewhere else.

1600 for 60 minutes with the fiwfans girl, + 300-400 for CIM, as is often listed. And if I add in the "big dick" surcharge from yesterdays girl (linly is her listed name, BTW), a total of 2300 for a 20 yo girl I'd rate as an 8, though normally it would be less than 2000, as I'm not exactly hung like John Holmes.

On the other hand, I simply do not see anyone looking anything close to that in nana or soi cowboy. Maybe they are there, somewhere, but there is a limit to the glasses of orange juice I can drink in each bar while looking for her. And even after spending an hour or two doing that, if I can find her, I'd have to pay 1000 + 3000 to take her out. I much prefer to arrange things so that I bts / mrt out somewhere and bang a fiwfans girl while on the way to / from something else in the daytime.

T-Ded 99 sounds interesting and possibly I'll check it out on a weekend.

[UglyAzzMan]

Please for Gods Sake. Stay away from Thai Centric places.

My source Somchai said so.

[NRandom940]

If I was you, I would check out T-Ded 99.

Does T-Ded 99 have ST rooms on-site?

[EverythingThai]

In the early afternoon I ventured out to Sutthisan to try a (for me) new fiwfan girl. Required walking to the BTS train, then hopping onto the MRT, and then a grab motorbike for the last two km. Done that route so many times that it doesn't take me more than 40 minutes. Not as comfortable as in a taxi, but cheaper, and more importantly, faster without any unexpected traffic delays.

One of course never knows what to expect at fiwfans unfortunately, and thus I have learned to not expect too much, but this was one of the better surprises. A 20 yo old who did a pretty good impression of pretending she liked me (though, if she really did, would she charge me 700 extra for CIM and "big dick"? Werqweq thinks not). Paid her the listed 1600 for 60 minutes beforehand, as one always does as far as fiwfans girls are concerned.

Service was really good, starting with a shower together where she washed me like a GF, admiring my dick and commenting how big it was multiple times. Always flattering of course, no matter how big the lie, but the reason for this became apparent at the end of the session. As always, she was photoshopped up a notch or two in her fiwfans photos, but she was still a pretty girl and I'd rate her as an 8. Maybe even a 9 if her youth is included.
With fiwfans, she can look like a 10 in her photos, but behind the door an acne-ridden 5 can be hiding, only redeemed up to a 6 by her youth. So I've learned to not expect too much. This girl looked like a 9 in her photos, and was in reality an 8. So pretty good as far as fiwfans is concerned.

After the shower I laid down on the bed, where she commenced to DFK me. During this past year I've overcome my inhibitions to DFK-ing p4 p girls (as well as condoms, though I take some precautions in the form of medicine), and while hardly a requirement for me, it's something I on occasion enjoy a bit of. This girl was however really into it, more so than me, so I had to avert myself a bit. I then tried my old Jakarta-trick of pulling her on top of me to grind my dick against her pussy, seeing if I could enter, but she was careful, in a discreet way, for that to not happen. Then onto her back, with me on top, grinding a bit and continuing fondling her breasts, which were not too bad for a Thai girl. She then politely suggested I climb up higher and put my dick in her mouth while she was laying on her back, which I did for a while. Then back to her pussy with my dick, but no go at entering. So, on with the rubber, and fucked her in various positions, with her doing a pretty good job at seeming to be into it.

In the end, I pulled out, pulled off the condom, and pulled her head on top of my dick. After half a minute of this I released into her mouth. Many p4 p girls pull away immediately at the first spurt, but she kept going until I was done. Some more GFE from her, then into the shower to get rid of the apparently unwanted substance now swimming around in her mouth. After that, massaged me for a bit, then suggested I hop into the shower myself, which I promptly did.

Getting dressed afterwards she asked if I could give her a tip. I think it's only the second time I've wanted to tip a fiwfans girl (normally there is a listed surcharge for CIM, so no additional tip required for that), and I don't like when people ask me for a tip of course, but I had planned on giving her a tip as service was really good, so I said yes, and pulled out a 500 note. She looked confused, and for a moment I naively wondered if she thought it was too much and was going to say she does not have so much change, but alas, she pulled out a different "service list" than the one her agent had sent me, and on this one pointed out the extra charges for CIM and "big dick" (I guess I jinxed myself when I some weeks ago said nobody has ever complained or charged me for "big dick" before), respectively 300 and 400 extra (or reverse, my Thai was not good enough to understand her). So in fact I had to pay an additional 200. Well, ok I thought. Don't know why her list is different than what her agent sent me, but oh well. Service was good, and she did not (like most other fiwfans girls) interrupt the romance by informing me of the extra surcharge for CIM beforehand. Some more joking / GFE from her side, and I left a happy camper.

Worked out a bit and then had a massage next to Marriot on Sukhumvit 22, where I was going to have dinner. A Thai massage from a 35 year old reasonably looking woman in the nearest shop. At the end the customary Q if I wanted her to massage junior also..

I have a question if you don't mind. You say that with Fiw fans you are never sure what you are going to get. So, I am just curious why you prefer it say maybe over the TF FLs or a go go lady or a massage lady or beer bar ladies in BKK. Don't say it's the price because in both instances in your post, you paid over 1000 Baht for a BJ and a massage and an inflated rate for a Fiw fans girl that you may or may not get BBFS with. Makes no sense. Do you like playing in the Thai pond for a thrill? Do you think these girls are better looking? Do you think the prices are lower really even after you paid these prices?

If I was you, I would check out T-Ded 99 as you will find it easy to get BBFS, the girls are hot and the prices are good. You can also see what you are getting in real life without photo shopped images.

Maybe I can see why you do it now? I bet it's because you just like the adventure and the thrill of Fiw Fans. Never knowing what you will actually get.

For me, I always get BBFS on Fiw Fans. Why? Because I negotiate for it in Thai language. This goes a long way. Even google translate is not the same as you speaking Thai in the eyes of the The girl. They just feel more comfortable with you when you speak Thai.

[Werqweq]

In the early afternoon I ventured out to Sutthisan to try a (for me) new fiwfan girl. Required walking to the BTS train, then hopping onto the MRT, and then a grab motorbike for the last two km. Done that route so many times that it doesn't take me more than 40 minutes. Not as comfortable as in a taxi, but cheaper, and more importantly, faster without any unexpected traffic delays.

One of course never knows what to expect at fiwfans unfortunately, and thus I have learned to not expect too much, but this was one of the better surprises. A 20 yo old who did a pretty good impression of pretending she liked me (though, if she really did, would she charge me 700 extra for CIM and "big dick"? Werqweq thinks not). Paid her the listed 1600 for 60 minutes beforehand, as one always does as far as fiwfans girls are concerned.

Service was really good, starting with a shower together where she washed me like a GF, admiring my dick and commenting how big it was multiple times. Always flattering of course, no matter how big the lie, but the reason for this became apparent at the end of the session. As always, she was photoshopped up a notch or two in her fiwfans photos, but she was still a pretty girl and I'd rate her as an 8. Maybe even a 9 if her youth is included.
With fiwfans, she can look like a 10 in her photos, but behind the door an acne-ridden 5 can be hiding, only redeemed up to a 6 by her youth. So I've learned to not expect too much. This girl looked like a 9 in her photos, and was in reality an 8. So pretty good as far as fiwfans is concerned.

After the shower I laid down on the bed, where she commenced to DFK me. During this past year I've overcome my inhibitions to DFK-ing p4 p girls (as well as condoms, though I take some precautions in the form of medicine), and while hardly a requirement for me, it's something I on occasion enjoy a bit of. This girl was however really into it, more so than me, so I had to avert myself a bit. I then tried my old Jakarta-trick of pulling her on top of me to grind my dick against her pussy, seeing if I could enter, but she was careful, in a discreet way, for that to not happen. Then onto her back, with me on top, grinding a bit and continuing fondling her breasts, which were not too bad for a Thai girl. She then politely suggested I climb up higher and put my dick in her mouth while she was laying on her back, which I did for a while. Then back to her pussy with my dick, but no go at entering. So, on with the rubber, and fucked her in various positions, with her doing a pretty good job at seeming to be into it.

In the end, I pulled out, pulled off the condom, and pulled her head on top of my dick. After half a minute of this I released into her mouth. Many p4 p girls pull away immediately at the first spurt, but she kept going until I was done. Some more GFE from her, then into the shower to get rid of the apparently unwanted substance now swimming around in her mouth. After that, massaged me for a bit, then suggested I hop into the shower myself, which I promptly did.

Getting dressed afterwards she asked if I could give her a tip. I think it's only the second time I've wanted to tip a fiwfans girl (normally there is a listed surcharge for CIM, so no additional tip required for that), and I don't like when people ask me for a tip of course, but I had planned on giving her a tip as service was really good, so I said yes, and pulled out a 500 note. She looked confused, and for a moment I naively wondered if she thought it was too much and was going to say she does not have so much change, but alas, she pulled out a different "service list" than the one her agent had sent me, and on this one pointed out the extra charges for CIM and "big dick" (I guess I jinxed myself when I some weeks ago said nobody has ever complained or charged me for "big dick" before), respectively 300 and 400 extra (or reverse, my Thai was not good enough to understand her). So in fact I had to pay an additional 200. Well, ok I thought. Don't know why her list is different than what her agent sent me, but oh well. Service was good, and she did not (like most other fiwfans girls) interrupt the romance by informing me of the extra surcharge for CIM beforehand. Some more joking / GFE from her side, and I left a happy camper.

Worked out a bit and then had a massage next to Marriot on Sukhumvit 22, where I was going to have dinner. A Thai massage from a 35 year old reasonably looking woman in the nearest shop. At the end the customary Q if I wanted her to massage junior also. Said I did not know, so she proceeded with the regular Thai massage. Then she asked again some 5 minutes later, and I said ok, if she sucked. She told me that would be 2,000. I said 1000. She asked for 1500, I said 1000. She asked for 1500, including massage, but I just kept it at 1,000. She then clarified that I would indeed pay the additional 300 for the massage downstairs (I guess there are some cluebies that have somehow not understood one pays for the massage, and then one pays for whatever extras separately), which I of course confirmed. She told me we have 7, no, ok, 10 minutes, till we have to finish, so I suggested she sucked good, which she laughingly indicated she was not sure she could or not. Before 10 minutes I released the first spurt into her mouth, at which point she immediately tried to pull away of course.

Paid her the extra 1000 in private upstairs, the 300 for the massage downstairs, and since the massage was also good, an additional 100 baht tip for that. Then overate as usual at Marriot's Goji restaurant buffet (booked via eatigo for a discount), before booking a grab motorbike back to my airbnb.

[Axiata]

Well our tour to BKK and Phnom Penh has come to a very quick end. For the last night in BKK we spent a few hours playing billards around the nana area before heading up to try Spankys. While the show was interesting and somewhat entertaining, the overall quality of girls was low level. There were a couple that my wingman and I drank with and while the girls were well put together and pleasing to the eye, mine was the sort you see at most of the nana bars. Heavy tattoos and been around the circuit. The mummys kept pushing drinks and to barfine the girls. Annoying and while my wingman was keen on his, mine was the sort of girl I knew would be a clock watcher and would not provide anything near a GFE or P.S. Experience. So when I declined to barfine her she quickly moved on. Gone with the wind!

As this was my last night in BKK I decided to go back to Billboards and grab one of the girls I bar fined before. The mummy knew my face and which girl I had and within a few minutes she was by my side. After being with her before she was a lot more affectionate and very GF like. So back in the room she did not disappoint. DFK, BBBJ, multiple positions. Great finish doggy style staring a her fabulous behind and tattoos on the back. Billboard has a lot of girls and the quality is high. They are as pushy as other bars for drinks but if you want to sit with the girls and be hands-on then expect to pay.

So all in all, a very good tour and well worth our time and money spent. Happy Hunting.

[Nyezhov]

Please re-read my post. I stated I have never been to T-Ded so my post was not about T-Ded. My post is my observations and experiences of Thai bars in Pattaya.

Thanks for the invite but I have no plans to be in Thailand for at least a couple of months at the earliest..

The food is not bad there either.

[Banana Boi]

This is absolutely not correct. They welcome foreigners in groups as well as loners who speak Thai. <snip> I will try to do one on the 27th and you are welcome to come

Please re-read my post. I stated I have never been to T-Ded so my post was not about T-Ded. My post is my observations and experiences of Thai bars in Pattaya.

Thanks for the invite but I have no plans to be in Thailand for at least a couple of months at the earliest.

Thermae would be a fab meetup place for ISG freaks. Take over the back tables.

I think that would be lots of fun. Thermae is the only place I go to in Thailand and talk to guys too. I would never talk to strange guys in gogo bars unless I'm telling them to hold their cigarettes far away from me.

[Goatscrot]

In the old days, posters in the old Nanapong forum met up at Woodstock, 3rd floor Nana where Geisha (is.

Thermae would be a fab meetup place for ISG freaks. Take over the back tables.

I was at Woodstock every Friday back in the day, then at Gulliver's when we moved after Woodstock shut.