Tokyo

[SouRiceCream]

Went to luxe 3 weeks ago on a Thursday. Couldn't get in as I didn't make a reservation. Came out and the guy directed us to the booth where there is a guide for RLD in Kabukicho. He talked to couple of similar clubs which allowed entry for foreigners but they were full as well. After another call he made us enter luxe but with a steep 13 k entry. Me and my friend went in. First girl name Airi or something, she knew English was half Latino and had fantastic tits. I loved sucking her tits but she didn't let me DFK, she did let me touch her pussy as well, gave in for her a drink and couldn't say no. Meanwhile my friend's girl refused to do anything till a drink was served. Next was a Japanese girl with barely any boobs but did DFK like no tomorrow. We were liplocked for about 10 of 13 minutes. Next girl came which again had no boobs and didn't even let me kiss, couldn't speak English as well. My friend's 3rd girl was a proper Japanese but she had a stinking mouth so he just sucked her tits for all the time.

It was a fun experience having me and my friend beside each other sucking tits all around but I wouldn't repeat. Good for a 1 time experience considering the price for being a foreigner.

After this we went to JIS club which advertises number of women inside with our broken Japanese, but since women there knew only Japanese we were out in 15 minutes.

Soaplands are the best bet tbh. Went to one last year in asakusa and paid 23 k for a 70 min session and was totally satisfied.

Damages - 13+2.5 k.

[HkPunter99]

Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.

Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.

I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.

I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.

I'm a higher end (Marriott) hotel guy myself. JW Marriott in BKK (just booked in January), Renaissance in HK, and I do the Tokyo Marriott. Which I don't recommend if you're in to tourist things, it's more a business hotel. I'm sure others here can give better Tokyo hotel suggestions and help simplify the subway system (I only had to learn about 2 lines for the two times I"ve been there. Yamanote and Keikyu). Pick your hotel first, then worry about learning the subway lines.

As at David032 said, translators aren't that big a deal with most of the places that service foreigners. Most of the girls will have some basic English skills and some are incredibly proficient. That said, I'm the same with try to learn a little of the local language and it does go a long way with the girls (IMHO).

I just booked 4 nights in Tokyo in November, so I'll be sure to post some reports from my trip.

[David032]

Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.

Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.

I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.

I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.

Honestly don't worry about getting around. Google maps will give you great directions it even tell you exactly which platform number to look for. Also taxis are everywhere.

As for translators your experiences will vary. If you go for some of the forgien friendly ones mentioned here, gfesoapland, henti, shadymotion asian mistque, they will all be fine with it. I have yet to have an issue with translators yet.

[CCRider1008]

My pleasure! I realized there were some typos in my note, not enough coffee yesterday morning when I wrote it so glad it was helpful!

Although not a comprehensive list, I did a google map of the area that has a high concentration of Soaplands.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/soapland/@35.7245257, 139.7942702,18 z / data=!4 m2!2 m1!6 e1.

These are in an area that is North West of the heart of Tokyo, an area named Taito City. This matters because of choosing where to stay and recognizing that it could be a trek to get to them if you stay in the south of the city.

Also, if you're a public transportation guy, and use an iPhone, I suggest adding the Suica card to your Apple Wallet and then spending a bit of time learning the subway system in Tokyo. It's an amazing way to get around the city!

Thanks HK. I am a mass transportation guy depending on ease of use and cleanliness. BKK all the time. Other places mostly uber or lyft.

Luckily, I've been to Thailand so much that piece of trip was planned in about 10 minutes. Japan on the other hand. Holy shit that's a big and complicated looking city. One needs a PhD for the subway system map. I'm going to have to dig into the research once I'm back from quick trip to Rio in couple weeks. Since I do tourist stuff too I'm assuming I need to find a happy middle ground for hotel basecamp from the point you mentioned? Maybe dilemma of how much time one will monger versus sight see and explore.

I generally stay at higher end hotels (usually Marriott JW or Hyatt like hotels). I'm reading most in Tokyo will not hassle you for bringing in girls. True? I'm assuming it's like NYC and they wouldn't know or give a shit anyway.

I try and make effort learning key words and phrases when I travel (at least makes girls smile sometimes) so I can have some rapport. But obviously will be relying on iphone translators in Japan. How has your experience been with that and the interaction with the girls? Some like PHI and Thailand use it better than I do with no issue establishing rapport. Some like Cambodia its mood killing I'd rather jerkoff experience.

[HkPunter99]

HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.

My pleasure! I realized there were some typos in my note, not enough coffee yesterday morning when I wrote it so glad it was helpful!

Although not a comprehensive list, I did a google map of the area that has a high concentration of Soaplands.

https://www.google.com/maps/search/soapland/@35.7245257, 139.7942702,18 z / data=!4 m2!2 m1!6 e1.

These are in an area that is North West of the heart of Tokyo, an area named Taito City. This matters because of choosing where to stay and recognizing that it could be a trek to get to them if you stay in the south of the city.

Also, if you're a public transportation guy, and use an iPhone, I suggest adding the Suica card to your Apple Wallet and then spending a bit of time learning the subway system in Tokyo. It's an amazing way to get around the city!

[David032]

HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.

It all depends on your preference as purely a punter trip Thailand wins hands down. As a tourist / punter trip Japan wins for me personnelly. Japan generally does take a little more effort as you've more than likely read as FS isn't exactly legal. Put there are quite a few places that bridge that. But a little more effort into and you'll get everything you want.

[AlwaysWatching]

So was visiting Japan for work, read the forum here and took some of the advice. I was staying in Yokosuka which is as dead as hell. So decided to try gfesoapland up in Kawasaki. Let tell you what, it was fun as hell. The girl I saw Marin tried to convince me to come back because they are running a threesome discount in September. I think I just might because no cover was offered as an option. Which normally isn't offered from what I have read She also hinted that return customers get access to a special hole if they will give her bonus. Will repeat and try the threesome, she recommend a threesome with her and a girl called a Rana think I am going to try as they are both ranked number one and two at the place.

[Vendelo]

The lone standout there where FS is guaranteed is Asian Mystique. I really had a great experience there the one time I used them.

I ordered 3 girls from AM. All provided FS.

[CCRider1008]

First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!

Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.

1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.

Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:

- Versaille - https://y-versailles.com/access/.

- why Shirt - https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php.

- Silky Doll.

- Cream Lemon.

- Prima Donna.

- Etc.

consider.

HK thanks for the info. Also an east coast USA guy. After reading your suggestions and fact that I'm a tourist + punter on trips I'm leaning toward Japan + Thailand. Try something new as you say, and your roadmap is excellent.

[HkPunter99]

I've mongered pretty much all of Asia (SE anyway. Thai, Phil, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bali). Have not been to Japan; I understand the nuisance of the law (no vaginal). I've read the threads.

1. Japan Thread Summary. Bias against foreigner sex, but there are some soaplands and massage places that are friendly. Some agencies to hotel as well. However, whether you can get good ole FS vaginal sex is entirely hit or miss. It is more "no" then "yes". Fucking without a condom pretty rare, even with understanding it will cost more (which is only fair).

Correct?

2. Honest Vote. Understanding this is Tokyo forum and likely a favorable bias to Japan, my question. I have a month in late March / early April.

Choice A. Back to Thailand. Phuket and BKK for entire 4 weeks.

Choice be. 2 weeks Thailand and 2 weeks Japan.

+ Thailand Only. FS and usually BB for me is pretty much given with little issues on past 4 trips (money talks as does some charm and a smile). Nice beaches and I can train muay thai while fucking at night.

- Thailand Only. Been to Thailand 4 times. My favorite place but I've seen it all.

+ Japan. Fascinated with looks of Japanese women and would like to see the place.

- Japan. While I combine tourism and mongering on trips, if I only got BJs and occasionally FS (particularly if always covered) I'd consider it a letdown. Like I said I am willing to pay more.

Recommendations? A or be.

First, my apologies for quoting the whole post! Don't flame me!

Vaginal sex in Japan is quite easy to get if you really understand how the system works in Japan.

1.) There is a loophole in the law that allows Soaplands to offer Vaginal Intercourse. I think you'll find 99.9% of reports from soaplands, FS is standard. The problem is that not every soapland allows foreigners. So, you just have to find ones that do.

Some that are reported as being foreigner friendly in Tokyo are:

- Versaille - https://y-versailles.com/access/.

- why Shirt - https://www.y-shirt.jp/sp/top.php.

- Silky Doll.

- Cream Lemon.

- Prima Donna.

- Etc.

What I understand is that you might not get a choice of any girl you want, only some of the girls service foreigners.

There is one in Gotanda (near Shinagawa station) that I went to called Happiness.

https://tokyo.happiness-group.com/top.html

If you want to go, just call and ask if they speak English (33521;35486;12434;35441;12379;12414;12377;12363; / Eigo o hanasemasu ka) and they will pass you on to a guy there that does.

I had a GREAT experience there in April 2023 (44 000 JPY for 80 minutes).

2.) Delivery Health Services. Like Tokyo Hentai Club. Some girls will offer FS, but as been said on this board.

A.) it costs more (assume 10 000 JPY or more).

Be.) sometimes it comes down to whether the girl likes you.

Here are a list of places, if you want FS, look for girls who offer FS.

(prices in JPY for 2 hour sessions. Includes delivery fee to Shinagawa area, + CIM option).

THC - https://hentaitokyo.com/ (56000 + 10 K min for sex).

Tokyo Style - https://www.tokyostyle-delivery.jp/top.php (48000).

Aroma Fantasy - https://aroma-fantasy.com/en_top/ (40000,90 minutes, HJ only).

Paradise - https://paradise-tokyo.net/home (51000).

Mana - https://manatokyo.com/top.php (50000).

Shady Motion - https://www.shadymotion.com/en/top/ (51000).

Asian Mystique - https://asianmystique.com/ (35000, guaranteed FS).

Amateur Tokyo - amateurtokyo.com/ system. Php (41000).

Gingira - http://www.gingira.jp/lang/en/index.html (65000).

The lone standout there where FS is guaranteed is Asian Mystique. I really had a great experience there the one time I used them.

Now, as someone who has been to Tokyo twice and Bangkok twice (and Hong Kong 9 times over the last 10 years). Nothing really compares to Thailand. But Thailand is just a pain to get to from the East Coast of the US where I am. I always loved the Wan Chai bar scene pre-COVID, a bit more expensive than Bangkok, but loved the bars and the variety (I dig the GFE you get from Pinays).

The thing to look for on girls profiles is if they offer Anal, that typically means there is a FS option. .

I would say try Japan for a few days. It is a fun city, the food is amazing and there is lots to do in addition to our hobby. It is more expensive though, you can pretty much assume spending twice as much on a hotel per night but I like it.

One other thing, I also noticed BBFS is pretty common at Nana now. I was 4 for 4 on my trip last December. I don't think it as common in Tokyo though. So that is something else to consider.

[RafaelX12]

This traveler guy is half right about k-girls in Japan.

But he forgets one thing and it's the little things that count.

There ain't no K-girl with big titties who will do outcall to your home and go a-level on camera with no cap.

That's where Jpn has you beat my friends, LOL. Sure I can get nice FS from a regular K-girl, but sometimes I'm too lazy to go out hunting for it. When I can just order custom delivery to my shack.

[CCRider1008]

I've mongered pretty much all of Asia (SE anyway. Thai, Phil, Cambodia, Vietnam, Bali). Have not been to Japan; I understand the nuisance of the law (no vaginal). I've read the threads.

1. Japan Thread Summary. Bias against foreigner sex, but there are some soaplands and massage places that are friendly. Some agencies to hotel as well. However, whether you can get good ole FS vaginal sex is entirely hit or miss. It is more "no" then "yes". Fucking without a condom pretty rare, even with understanding it will cost more (which is only fair).

Correct?

2. Honest Vote. Understanding this is Tokyo forum and likely a favorable bias to Japan, my question. I have a month in late March / early April.

Choice A. Back to Thailand. Phuket and BKK for entire 4 weeks.

Choice be. 2 weeks Thailand and 2 weeks Japan.

+ Thailand Only. FS and usually BB for me is pretty much given with little issues on past 4 trips (money talks as does some charm and a smile). Nice beaches and I can train muay thai while fucking at night.

- Thailand Only. Been to Thailand 4 times. My favorite place but I've seen it all.

+ Japan. Fascinated with looks of Japanese women and would like to see the place.

- Japan. While I combine tourism and mongering on trips, if I only got BJs and occasionally FS (particularly if always covered) I'd consider it a letdown. Like I said I am willing to pay more.

Recommendations? A or be.

[Gaijinsg]

Hi, Newbie here.

Currently in US and planning a short visit to Japan in September. Can speak fluent Japanese but no mongering experience either in Japan or US.

Before moving to Japan, I am tempted to try Japanese girls in the US. I know this is not a question on this forum, but would appreciate any pointers for Chicago area from Traveler X.

Also, what are the best value for money options for someone speaking fluent Japanese in Tokyo area, both for soaps as well as deli health.

I am interested in meeting genuine slender Japanese girls.

Hi, I am an active contributor to USAG and have seen many jgirls, written plenty of guides. I have also used Japan for a very long time. So I can directly compare. I know I am disagreeing with David here on some things and I think it is important we each give our own honest opinion. I am not saying he is wrong, his opinion is very valuable. I do think he would be very satisfied if he tried these jgirls in the US. So I am just giving my own opinion and experience to paint a better picture. I don't intend to post about this topic anymore, it's been beaten to death by people who should be asking in USAG instead. I or someone else will answer it there.

The price is more in the US, but for what you get there is absolutely no contest for FS. The US is way better. The least attractive jgirls I saw in the US were way younger and more beautiful than the average jgirl I saw in Japan FS. I will post below the two least attractive girls I saw. Both were early 20's. Most girls coming were 20-24 and looked it, there are very few older girls but they'd have to bring something to compensate. The caveat is jgirls struggle to beat kgirls at service (DFK, BBBJ skill and duration, begging for cock, etc.). A lot of people won't touch jgirls because they acknowledge they are cute but don't compare to kgirls. I visit jgirls not expecting them to..

[Bbowman117]

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Thank you for the run down Traveler, thanks to your post (and my experiences last year in Japan and Korea) I'm also lowering my expectations for exceptional FS service in Japan. To keep things on topic, last year when I was in Japan I kept getting harassed by a Chinese lady offering "massages" while walking around Shinjuku. I told her I only wanted a "massage" from an actual Japanese girl. She took me to a love hotel and walked me into a room with a tall Thai / Filipino looking lady, I laughed and walked out. She then kept following me outside while making phone calls in Japanese, she said that a very beautiful Japanese girl was ready and only 5 minutes away. To my surprise a very beautiful Japanese girl showed up 5 minutes later and we agreed on 30 k for an hour of FS. I took her to my hotel where we both showered, I ate her out, she gave me CBJ, and the we fucked for about 15 minutes. There was very little if no kissing, and after I came she was already putting on her clothes and getting ready to leave. I'm definitely not going with street walkers the next time I go to Japan.

I agree that if a Japanese girl really wanted to fuck like American men want (BBBJ DT, DFK, condom-optional, multiple positions, multiple pops per hour) she would just come to America and make a shitload of money at a Korg or Corg. Unfortunately for me I am only verified at Korgs and they never seem to have any J girls working. I am going to get my fill of K pussy before I go to Japan next month and then test my luck at the Oppai bars.

[Traveler X]

But the Japanese agencies have plenty of girls who offer FS. But the average person on this forum just won't crack that nut. I always get FS so my view is skewed because of it. To me it does cost more in the US and way less in Japan. Also the service is 100 times better here. Truthfully I think it does really come down Ymmv. But the bottom line for me is I won't get arrested for visiting a girl in Japan. I have 4 Japanese girls ready at all times two of which have a standing offer for creampies. So please disregard that FS can not be found in Japan. My prices below.

Yes at delivery and soap anyone can get FS, foreigners included. To be clear this advice is for other people and not you - soap is a bit easier because it's always included. So language barrier solved. No girl is going to ask you for a tip. So as a foreigner even without any Japanese, that's going to be your better bet. With delivery you are going to have to ask and frankly some girls won't even if most do. And most ask for a tip, some girls have straight up said it depends on the guy (they will fuck one guy for free and charge another guy). You may not have had girls refuse FS at delivery, but plenty of Japanese locals have. It is not just a race thing but what the girl thinks of you and there are some girls who really don't do FS. There are some disgusting Japanese customers after all.

So I try to say that the most important questions for guys is your Japanese level, and if you are visiting Japan anyways or actually already coming from the US. As I said, I try to be cautious because I don't like hearing people say it was a waste or they were disappointed in Japan. There is plenty of fun but you have to match it with what you want and have realistic expectations. When I say you are better off going non-FS in Japan if you have options at home, that's just my opinion. Some guys are obsessed with it so go ahead but research back a few pages to get a better picture first.

With a big caveat, I don't agree on the service being better in Japan. I think it's good in Japan, and anyone who has had random FS in the US is not always going to get good service. Anyone who gets FS at a kgirl shop will. It's a lot better than fs in Japan, if you see those charts of sex acts a particular shop girl will do in Japan, most of what girls won't do is not just standard but required at korgs. The charts include bareback blowjob, deep kiss, nipple licking, licking pussy, fingering, (plus some weird shit) etc.. that for some girls are less than half filled out when it is the norm for kgirls. So I can understand people saying "FS in the US is worse" because it sure is. FS at a kgirl shop is superior however. Very few jgirls deep kiss and most don't know how to suck dick is my main complaint, I can overlook everything else honestly. I have seen well over a hundred girls between the two countries, I am not trying to bash Japan, I had lots of fun. I'm not sure there is anyone here besides me who has actually tried enough of both to compare. Please speak up if you had.

So I just do not want people who have actually gone to a korg to come to Japan expecting "100 times better" because they are in for a shock. Lucky if it is even half is good. The only thing that amuses me is getting soaped up like a JAV or harassing a girl in uniform before fs, everything else is half as good. They are going to waste their money even if it's cheaper, when they could have tried something like an oppai pub that doesn't exist back home.

But again, everyone has to give their own take. I think David's experiences are a good example of how far you can get if you just learn the local language. Especially as he says if you pick girls you like to see again. That's a win. I would say a few years of serious study got me in most places, but the more the better.

The original OP's question was about touring jgirls. Not random FS in the US, even with people who happen to be Japanese or Korean for example. Everything I've said are about jgirls at korgs. Jgirls at corgs are one tier down, they are sometimes as good, or not. Corgs hire by looks and will try to book 12+ guys a day. I wouldn't touch them, but locals must love them. The girls get good fast. If jgirls are good enough, they get hired at the korg through that route. My #2 favorite was originally a corg and you can tell from her corg reviews that she didn't know what she was doing (she started at 19 and it was her first time doing sw ever). But after 500 happy cocks she got hired at a korg months later. I don't want to make another long post but New York is a very different situation than LOS Angeles. But we share a few of the same girls.

T** (I think the site is censored here) is a good example. Most random white / latina girls on T** get anywhere from a 3 to a 7. A few excellent outliers exist above 7. Every jgirl in the past 6 months in my area has been 8-9, excepting girls who were kicked no surprise. The kicked girls were a 7 BTW. A kgirl will not last unless she's a 7-9. Of course T** is actually two ratings, looks and service. No surprise the jgirls are always higher on their looks rating and lower on their service rating. Every one. Kgirls are 50-50 which one is higher. Speaks volumes on their gimmick. There is a huge difference between a 7 and an 8 on T** assuming the reviews are legit. The reviews have to be legit once they reach multi-page and I know a lot of the reviewers by name.

So I will then say about the previous poster's original question, it is about the recent trend of touring jgirls. In the last 2-3 years only. When they work for a kgirl shop, their service is superior because they get cut if they don't. That's why I don't even touch a corg, she might be good she might not. No different in Japan actually. I have tried FS at non-Japanese places and it straight up sucks. The worst jgirl I saw in the US was better than the best jgirl I saw in Japan.

At first there were a dozen girls who were former JAV stars. 100% confirmed as the real girls, I literally sent screenshots to reviewers and they confirmed them. Most of the JAV was in the early waves, but there's a lot less now. Because most JAV girls can't cut it and get kicked. But a really young cute girl just might.