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08-28-24 10:18 #15377Senior Member

Posts: 7576Unprecedented
This situation is absolutely unprecedented due to the scope of it. It's not just a few one offs here and there. It's a lot! And I don't know which media outlets you follow, but this absolutely has been covered in the main stream media. And no name nothings? Just remember that at the end of the day all politics is local. Those "no name nothings" are going to be the ones who decide the winner in a close election. So, a candidate disrespects and dismisses them at their own peril.
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08-28-24 09:21 #15376Senior Member

Posts: 7457You're really on a roll here
Interesting. So few Dem departures it is easy to remember and cite each one by name.
The hits just keep on comin'!
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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What's next?
"Carter ruined the economy and Reagan fixed it"?
"Nobody predicted a Pandemic. It just happened out of the blue"?
"Trump inherited a skyrocketing unemployment rate and his genius policies brought it down"?
"Biden caused more inflation than anybody by flooding more emergency Covid recovery money into Americans' pockets in 2020 than anyone since. Really. Look it up"?
"Violent crime rates are at record highs today under Biden"?
"We are in a Great Recession under Biden and the stock market has Crashed into a Bear Market, things that never happened under Trump"?
"We were better off 4 years ago than now"?
Why not? Could be fun.
More than 200 former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-...-romney-staff/
More than 200 former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris.
The alumni of the three Republican presidential nominees sought to reiterate their opposition to Trump's 2020 re-election in an open letter.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ris-rcna168363
More than 200 former Republican presidential staffers sign open letter endorsing Harris over Trump.
More than 200 staffers for four previous Republican presidential nominees have endorsed Democrat Kamala Harris' White House bid.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wire...tter-113188280
More than 200 former Republican presidential staffers sign open letter endorsing Harris over Trump.
https://apnews.com/article/kamala-ha...6b3e1e126edbc9
More than 200 Bush, McCain, Romney alums endorse Harris for president, criticize Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...4/74947380007/
More Than 200 Former Republican Presidential Staffers Sign Open Letter Endorsing Harris Over Trump.
More than 200 staffers for four previous Republican presidential nominees have endorsed Democrat Kamala Harris' White House bid.
https://www.usnews.com/news/politics...ris-over-trump
Perhaps your favorite one:
Over 200 former Bush, McCain, Romney staffers endorse Harris: 'The alternative ... is simply untenable'.
An open letter calls on 'moderate Republicans and conservative independents' to vote for Vice President Kamala Harris.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ove...mply-untenable
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08-28-24 05:32 #15375Senior Member

Posts: 7457Repubs voted to Defund the Police, not Dems
Oh my god. The ignorance and Revisionist History by Wingers is unbounded and dangerous:
Fact check: The GOPs dishonesty-filled barrage of defund the police attack ads.
https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/23/polit...rms/index.html
'Republicans are defunding the police: Fox News anchor stumps congressman.Pelosi said in February that defunding the police is not the position of the Democratic Party and said in 2020 that from the standpoint of our legislation, were not going to that place. During Pelosis tenure as House speaker under President Joe Biden, Democrats have passed policing reform legislation, not defunding legislation. In fact, they have passed legislation that provides additional funding to police.
Chris Wallace quizzes Jim Banks of Indiana on Fox News Sunday.
Biden: $350bn in bill opposed by GOP is for law enforcement.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/20...sman-jim-banks
They are now rehashing Repub MAGA Winger lies that have been debunked countless times FOR YEARS!The Fox News anchor Chris Wallace made headlines of his own on Sunday, by pointing out to a senior Republican that he and the rest of his party recently voted against $350bn in funding for law enforcement.
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08-28-24 04:33 #15374Senior Member

Posts: 2682Um, no.
Durov's arrest has nothing or very little to do with Crypto or the US (probably). Volodin is one of Putin's henchmen -- anything these people say is a lie.
Originally Posted by SubCmdr
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The Russians are very scared to lose Telegram. In absence of viable and secure communication devices, the Russian troops are using Telegram on frontlines for combat operations: to coordinate attacks, share satellite photos, etc. In addition, the platform serves as an ideological vehicle to advance the Kremlin narrative.
Telegram and the war: Durov's arrest could complicate Russia's war in Ukraine, experts say
https://www.euronews.com/my-europe/2...ilitary-in-ukr
The French, however, are more concerned with Telegram's marketplace that sells anything from drugs and weapons to child pornography. Hardly surprising since Durov, a citizen of France, has refused to do anything about it.
Telegram CEO arrested over probe into child porn, drug trafficking on app
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...er-2024-08-26/
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08-28-24 04:17 #15373Senior Member

Posts: 2682Wow!
That's one masterful metaphor.
Originally Posted by CoolieHigh
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08-28-24 03:48 #15372Senior Member

Posts: 7457This should surprise no one by now. It is what Repubs do.
Not only did Trump's classic Repub economic and national security policies, decisions and stewardship lay the groundwork to convert a likely manageable epidemic isolated and confined to one region in China until plenty of fully tested and safe vaccines could be invented and distributed around the world into the historically deadly and worldwide economy-destroying Trump's Pandemic it became with all of the global supply-chain Inflation, skyrocketing prices for rent, food and gas that followed, but his 2nd term plan is to wreak economic havoc even beyond the historic damage he produced in his 1st term.
Add this assessment by Trump's alma mater to all the other Nobel Prize-winning economists' assessments for his 2nd term plan triggering even more inflation and wiping out millions more jobs than the historic heights on those and other factors his 1st term produced.
Trump budget plan would spike deficits 5 times more than Harris: Penn Wharton.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/08/27/trum...ndroidappshare
Only enemies of America, domestic and foreign, would want a Repub to occupy the Oval Office in the White House ever again. And most especially since we have seen what that Party's Geatest Iconic Representative, Donald J. Trump, is like, what he has done and since the Repub MAGA 6 in the Supreme Court has made it abundantly clear that any Repub Majority in that Court now and forever will always rule in favor of any Repub potus' effort and desire to be declared King and Above the Law.Republican Donald Trumps economic proposals would increase federal deficits by almost five times more over the next decade than those of Democratic nominee Vice President Kamala Harris, per two reports by the Penn Wharton Budget Model.
Harris has proposed raising corporate taxes to pay for her plan while Trump has put forward a hardline tariff policy on all imports, including higher rates for China.
The Trump and Harris campaigns are in a race to paint the other side as an economic danger, each trying to win over voters fatigued by the higher cost of living.
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08-27-24 23:39 #15371Senior Member

Posts: 192Sorry for your loss RamDavidson84
"Biden's own party pulled a fucking coup on him he was so senile LOL. ".
This is my flow chart: COUNTRY > PARTY > Individual.
If an invidual isn't fit to do a job, I would think the Party should step in to intervene.
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08-27-24 19:50 #15370Senior Member

Posts: 804See'Mon., don't twist my post with that word jiu jitsu shit LOL. I never said being poor was a crime. Most of those people in tents living on the sidewalks in front of people's homes and businesses are not just poor. Majority are irresponsible drug addicts who are also criminals. I see it everyday bro. And to the small percenatge that are just people who are down on their luck, absolutely my heart goes out to them. My heart goes out to the people who got hooked on drugs as well. But you can't allow that to happen to a city.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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Step 1: Secure the border and stop the flow of fentanyl.
Step 2: More funding for police and social services to remove the tents, criminals, and drug addicts from public places.
Step 3: Harsher laws for criminals.
Step 4: Strengthen economy and fight inflation so everyone has opportunity to earn money for themselves so they don't end up in desperate situations. Strong economy also means more tax dollars for social services.
The solution is definitely not "defund the police" and let drug addicts take over cities like they did in Seattle during the "summer of love" LOL, or just let riots breakout across the country where innocent businesses are burned to the ground and then pretend they are not rioters but peaceful protesters.
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08-27-24 19:22 #15369Senior Member

Posts: 1740Heavy Hand of Trump?
I understand it's just your opinion, but do you have anything to compare and contrast the two (2) president's accomplishments to backup your opinion, as to why you think, Trump "would have been much better"? Or why Trump isn't the worse president in US history vs. Biden as the 14th Best, other than just an "opinion"?
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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Perhaps! At age 81, it's expected your cognitive skills do diminish, but Biden isn't anywhere near the point of senility you're suggesting.
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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At age 78, Trump's cognitive skill have also diminished, far more considerably IMHO. But he just masks it better, since 95% of the stuff that comes outta his mouth is babbling bullshit and lies, IMHO. (Note: To be honest, it is really not just "my opinion", there are tons of sites tracking his lies. Saw one the other day, pronouncing him the biggest liar in US political history).
So if he's constantly uttering lies, nonsense and gibberish, does that sound like a rational person to you? Do you even know what's REAL, when he say's (...trying to use his Jedi mind trick):- " That's it! You just tell them and they believe. They just do!" or "People will just believe you. You just tell them, and they believe you."
You've addressed quite a few things here, but I will only address one thing w/r to the "tent villages". And BTW, sorry for your loss!
Originally Posted by RamDavidson84
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So last I checked being poor or poverty stricken isn't a crime. While tent villages may go against city bylaws, it is not a crime either. So how would you have your "heavy handed" Trump administration deal with the unwanted "tent villages" along US streets all around the country, since these people aren't committing crimes? (Unlike Trump and his 34 felony conviction!)
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08-27-24 19:18 #15368Senior Member

Posts: 804Unprecedented to see political party members switch? You didn't notice Tulsi Gabbard and RFK jr? Just saying, it goes both ways. Those 200 people are no name nothings as well. I don't think its as big a deal as you make it out to be which is why no main stream media outlets have even covered it.
Originally Posted by CoolieHigh
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08-27-24 19:13 #15367Senior Member

Posts: 804I was asked how my life has personally gotten worse since Biden took office. I live near Philadelphia and Kensington which is why I used that as an example. The fentanyl and crime problem in urban areas is nation wide and Biden and Democrats ran the defund the police campaign which I believe greatly contributed to higher crime rates. What would be "odd", in my opinion, is if I didn't care about that and pretended everything was fine as yearly deaths from fentanyl reached 100 k to 60 k a year by most estimates. The completely open border policy of Biden and Harris allowed all that fentanyl to come through and put more cash in the hands of cartels while also destroying the lives and communities of Americans.
Originally Posted by ErsatzJulian
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I know covid greatly contributed to inflation and no matter what some inflation was going to occur. But donating hundreds of Billions to Ukraine is not the way to deal with inflation. Longer unnecessary lockdowns, "like the ones in California" was not to combat inflation. Shutting down the Canadian oil pipeline and costing tens of thousands of people their jobs is not going to help inflation. Federal reserve needs to lower them interests rates so people can afford housing. Trump already that's one of the first things he will do and I agree. I can't wait for the that refi loan to pay off my debt from everything being so expensive.
So it is my opinion that Biden is the worst of my life time which is Presidents since Reagan. As I said before, I am absolutely not the expert and I go by my gut and what I see in my everyday life and when I analyze policy I won't claim to be a know-it-all, but it seems to me Trump is the much better candidate at this point. And based off his constant interviews he will fight for America and his own legacy. The man does not hide, but he does sometimes over do it and say stupid shit. No one is perfect. He wants to be remembered as a great man and he knows what people want. Most Americans just want more cash in their pockets, no more foreign wars, respect and fairness from other countries. All of those things took place during his presidency and none of them took place during Biden's.
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08-27-24 16:28 #15366Senior Member

Posts: 7457If I may, an greater point is that it is sane, not insane!
You are correct in your assessment of this, Sir.
Originally Posted by CoolieHigh
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However, if I may repeat your accurate portrayal of this unprecedented turn of events only to celebrate the fact that it is, for once, a SANE response by Repubs instead of an "INSANE" one.
For once.
And, again if I may, a great, rare SANE response from Repubs to the most important political issue of our lifetimes bears repeating:
More than 200 former Bush, McCain and Romney staffers endorse Harris.
The alumni of the three Republican presidential nominees sought to reiterate their opposition to Trump's 2020 re-election in an open letter.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/202...ris-rcna168363
Oh sure sure sure, Trump Cultists will spin this as the "evil Deep State out to get our Dear Leader, the now and forever poor poor victim of cruel meanies who just don't understand his celestial, oh please correct that, GODLY qualities"!More than 200 Republicans who worked for both Bush presidents, the late Sen. John McCain and Sen. Mitt Romney declared their endorsement of Vice President Kamala Harris presidential campaign in an open letter released Monday.
The letter comes after several Republicans who are openly critical of former President Donald Trump delivered remarks at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago last week.
In their letter, which was first reported by USA Today, the former staff members noted that they had come out against Trump during the 2020 election cycle and said they "jointly declare that were voting for Vice President Kamala Harris and Gov. Tim Walz this November."
"Of course, we have plenty of honest, ideological disagreements with Vice President Harris and Gov. Walz. Thats to be expected," they wrote. "The alternative, however, is simply untenable."
The group condemned Trump's policies and Project 2025, a proposed blueprint by the Heritage Foundation for a second Trump term that the former president has sought to distance himself from, saying those proposals "will hurt real, everyday people and weaken our sacred institutions."
They argued that Trump's approach to foreign policy also poses threats to democratic movements abroad and concluded their letter by imploring moderate Republicans and conservative independents to "take a brave stand once more, to vote for leaders that will strive for consensus, not chaos; that will make our country and our children proud" by voting for Harris and Walz.
Trump campaign spokesperson Steven Cheung said in a statement that the letter is "hilarious because nobody knows who these people are. They would rather see the country burn down than to see President Trump successfully return to the White House to Make America Great Again."
The Harris campaign did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
McCain's former chief of staff Mark Salter and Olivia Troye, a former aide to Vice President Mike Pence, signed the letter. Troye spoke out against Trump at the Democratic National Convention last week.
The group joins more than two dozen Republicans former governors, members of Congress and Trump administration officials who are vocal critics of Trump who pledged support for Harris' presidential campaign this month.
A similar group of anti-Trump Republicans, including several hundred former aides to George W. Bush and McCain, endorsed Bidens 2020 presidential election campaign.
Bush McCain and Romney spoke out against Trump for his inflammatory remarks and were targets of the former presidents attacks. (McCain, of Arizona, died in 2018, a decade after being the GOP presidential nominee; Romney, of Utah, was the party's nominee in 2012.)
Bush, whose brother Jeb Bush ran against Trump in the 2016 Republican presidential primary, did not attend the Republican National Convention last month. He has not publicly criticized Trump, but he did hold a 2021 fundraiser for then-Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., a vocal Trump critic who served as vice chair of the House Jan. 6 committee.
McCain said in 2016 that he couldnt back Trump or Democrat Hillary Clinton, citing Trumps inflammatory comments about women. His wife, Cindy McCain, later endorsed Biden in the 2020 election.
Romney, who voted twice to convict Trump at his impeachment trials, has repeatedly denounced the former president and said he is putting the countrys future in peril.
But the reality is Trump is a DISASTER for the economic, national security and democratic future of America and the rest of the World. And even those Repubs can not allow themselves to stand by and ignore it.
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08-27-24 14:56 #15365Senior Member

Posts: 41These are very odd complaints against a president. It is generally agreed amongst economists that the recent about of inflation was caused by supply chain issues brought on by COVID. And most economists would say the Federal Reserve is in a better position to deal with it than the executive branch. And FWIW, Chairman Powell was re-appointed by Donald Trump. As for the Philadelphia problem, that's a municipal issue. If you wish to blame the President for a municipal problem, then by the same logic, shouldn't you be praising the President for the well-run cities and towns in the country?
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08-27-24 12:21 #15364Senior Member

Posts: 7457So Maher kisses MAGA butt so they will show up at his shows in the studio and Winger cities and states while top universities no longer see any value in hosting his tired old style and jokes.
Originally Posted by Spidy
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His audience is so Winger MAGA now they applaud his every slam of Biden, Harris, Dems, The Truth as in that 50 Million vs 1 Million jobs creation for Dems vs Repubs since 1989 TRUTH he and his MAGAs refuse to accept and believe. No wonder Repub Winger MAGAs "love" Bill Maher and consider him to be a typically pro Repub "Bothsider truth-teller. " he lies, repeats and accepts without push back the central Repub Winger MAGA Campaign talking point lies about Dems and their far, far superior record of results on the Economy and National Security for more Americans going back at least 100 years.
I also blame blithering Carville for not being prepared for that fire hose Gish Gallop of Repub LIES flooding uninterrupted out of Repub Creanshaw's pie hole. Why didn't he have that 100,000,000 vs 37,000,000 jobs created, Dems vs Repubs, going back 100 years as long as Bill Maher is KNOWN to side with Repub LIARS over Dems at every significant and critical opportunity?
Maher wants to dismiss and accuse Clinton, facts, DATA and the Actual Historical Record of Results of lying about poor Repub GW Bush's and poor Repub Trump's horrific handling of the SPECTACULAR Dem economies handed to them? I would love to have heard his sputtering, lame excuses for his beloved Repubs colossal underperformsnce on economies they can't produce at least good enough to create HALF as many jobs as the Dems over the past 100 years.
"Oh , there was "...a pandemic, a strike, a recession, a depression, a long period of inflation, a hurricane/tornado, ...etc".
Hey, I'll give any Party a pass on "hurricanes / tornados". To a degree. I mean, not if Red Staters continue to build, rebuild and suffer in shitholes prone to be hit with devastating "hurricanes / tornados" every two years that the rest of us have to stop the world to rescue and recover them from.
But constant Great Repub Recessions, Great Repub Depressions, Great Repub Massive Jobs Destruction, Great Repub Whatever Once in 100 Years Disaster Ya' Got and all of the Great Repub Deficit Spending, Great Repub Inflation, Great Repub Skyrocketing Prices and Great Repub Crime Rates that inevitably and unavoidably follow do not deserve one more second of forgiveness and excuses from ANYONE.
After 100 years of that same mind-boggling pattern, there should be no doubt that result is what Repubs consider to be their JOB and vocation, their mission to produce and not an "accident" or a series of inexplicable "wild coincidences. "
And now, with Trump, they are targeting American Democracy itself, democracy at home and abroad, for the Repub Party's special patented brand of chaos, collapse and destruction.
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08-27-24 10:20 #15363Senior Member

Posts: 550Gents A Moment of Your Time
Gentlemen,
Never have I came on here to speak about politics as I rather be talking about tigo bitties but I'm seeing some unprecedented shit. Below is an recent article about staff members from Bush, McCain and Mitt Romney ALL coming together to support Kamala. Thats INSANE🤯. I've never heard or seen this in politics as to me this speaks volumes about how folks wether you're a democrat, republican or just a hobo on the street is just tired of the constant chaos, and insanity Trump attracts and bring to the table.
So to all the former Trump supporters don't be that guy and continue to stand on the wrong side of history. Time to let the circus go and get back to the old school Republican idealogy. Think Mitt Romney. And I get it. Back in 2016 Trump came thru with his cowboy diplomacy "I'll say whatever I want antics" which at the time was a breath of fresh air then the normal political rhetoric we heard so often as so MANY good people took the bait. The best analogy of the situation that I can describe is a man that's been having ok pussy from his wife for decades. Nothing special about the sex just good old fashion missionary pussy. You don't have to worry about getting the clap or any stds because she's not that type of girl. She's just regular stable pussy that gives you decent head when the kids are away and swallows from time to time.
You then come across a volatile crazy woman that's down to fulfill EVERY erotic desire you've been dreaming of ever since you were a teenager. And she delivers BIG time. Choking her while putting it in her ass before taking the money shot. CHECK!! Golden Showers while she's handcuffed. CHECK!! Having your toes curl like Eddie Murphy off Boomerang from her majetic 90 min NON-stop deep throat action. CHECK with Seal of Approval 👍. That Hawk Tuee girl aint got shit on volatile pussy. So yeah good bye to old fashion missionary (Republican party), I'm going to go fuck with volatile pussy (Trump) and ride with her from here on out. And for a time life was good but now you see what volatile pussy cost you. STD'S you didn't think still existed or never heard of keep coming your way. NOTHING major like the dreaded hiv BUT that old testament 7 year itch (scabies) along with trichomoniasis and old gonnereahea is causing problems and setbacks. While you're constantly having to take antibiotics every few months, she goes and TOTALS your car for the 3RD time. Why, because volatile pussy stop taking her bi-polar meds again and was having a bad day.
Yeah she made amends and paid to get you a new car as she came thru and paid you back as promised. How did she get the money? Well onlyfans blew up for her as she got weirdos paying her just to watch her sleep. Man this could be a real good come up you ponder but then you realize she spends her money on every dumb thing you can imagine. NO savings, barely a checking account with 10 dollars in it on average as her credit cards are ALWAYS maxed out even though she makes 250 k a year. And guess who she comes to when she's short on her 6 k a month mortgage OR need new break pads on a used Bugatti she got at a good price from a former drug dealer. And the CHAOS doesn't stop🤯. She doesn't know that she has to pay taxes from her onlyfans as now uncle Sam wants his cut. And she hasn't paid taxes in 4 years. So now she needs a good tax attorney as they froozen her account. Who you think she's going to call to help pay her bills. Sure as hell isn't Ghostbusters.
BUT WAIT THERES MORE😬. In the beginning you would strut like a proud peacock like yeah looked at this fine hunny by myside, she just blew me while going 100 miles per hour on the freeway BUT now everytime you go out you're on pins and needles because she might have a world star moment for all the world to see that she'll then post on Tiktok to get more views. She got millions of follwers now and she LOVES the attention. As the drama continues to pile up and not to be totally selfish, she senses her volatile crazy ways are putting a damper on you so she ups the anty and is willing to do 3 somes, 4 somes, perform a Blumpkin with her and another fine hunny that she'll find for you, HELL whatever you want just so you can continue to put up with ALL her craziness but its becomeing way too much. The final straw was seeing her getting shot at, seeing someone actually die and you being right there in the thick of it.
So what do you do. You start to head back to old missionary pussy. You find out on the news that old senile pussy (Joe Biden) is out of the way now as missionary pussy is back on the market. She maybe boring at times but old missionary aint going to burn down your house like Left Eye from TLC or give you scabies 😬. She aint going to embaress you when you're out with your friends and family because she can hold her liquor and not pass out by the trash can outside the nightclub while she pisses herself. Nope, old missionary pussy is going to stay classy. And if she acts a fool and go crazy she'll do it in the confines of your home and NOT for the world or onlyfans to see. So you look at old missionary and then you take a hard look at volatile pussy,.
You go and smash volatile pussy one last time😆 with a condom on and some reynolds wrap around your groin and pelvic area for fear of warts or she may give you the gift that keeps on giving (herpes). Or worst yet a baby to trap your ass because you got to be clean and bring no past drama when getting back with old missionary pussy (her terms and conditions) as afterwards you block volatile pussy number, delete all her social media from your phone, smile about those fun memories when the good times were truly memorable and then call up old missionary. Old missionary is ecstatic to see and hear back from you as well as the market was bleak with her dealings with Caitlyn Jenner types and being around old senile pussy all day as she's not a lesbian or into any weirdo shit. But for old time sake just to show you her appreciation she plays dressup for you and let you pretend she was monica lewinsky at the oval office as she lets you skeet all on her lips & blouse. And that's what the country is doing right now. Heading back to old missionary.
So make that change, shake off that addictive volatile pussy and hop back on this Old Missionary pussy and go balls deep for old times sake🤣. Peace.
https://newrepublic.com/post/185309/...in-romney-bush
P.S. For the record I'm neither a Dem or Rep. I'm an American. Which means I embrace both parties. I did vote for Obama twice. Did NOT vote for Trump, Hillary, or Biden. Would voted for Romney if he made a comeback but I see Kamala is making her ascension and if we all being honest its a huge breath of fresh air. Don't know if I'll vote for her yet BUT I do love the fact that I'm seeing folks from all parties come together and appreciate that they prefer that old missionary stable pussy where the chaos and insanity of the day would be how Obama shouldve worn a tie with his outfit or a man by the name of Clinton that look into the public eye and emphatically say, "I DID NOT HAVE SEXUAL RELATIONS WITH THAT WOMAN🤣.
I'm Coolie High, And I approve this message. Sorry I couldn't resist😆.








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