Jakarta

[JSmithJ88]

Chatted away after shooting. She's been in Jakarta 3 months from Central Java. Her English actually could manage and she will be good at it later. When the 10 minute call came I started licking her buttocks and back and she got super horny again. She started gyrating hips into my little bro and wanted me to pronebone her. But I needed more time and it was late and already slightly drunk so didn't ask for session 2. (I was guessing it would have been 900 more for BBFS and bar fee. I didn't want to discuss it at that moment but it would have been worth it if I could have managed.) Total bill 710 K for 1 HR of fantastic kicking / scratching / biting / squealing sex (400 k), 2 beers, this pitcher of crazy Yakult and Soju mix she ordered (fucking good and strong) (310 k) plus 500 k BBFS = 1. 2 or $75 for an amazing girl. Royal, or New Royal, or whatever the fuck its called will be at the top of my budget and party joint list next time.

Thats all my reports for August. More to come on the next sexpedition.

FYI, you can take a girl to your hotel for 800 k for 3 hrs.

Same deal should apply for LA, sari ayu, not sure for starmoon or MTR.

[Volterra]

I went exploring on a weekend evening, intending to just settle for a Kings Cross shag but ended up visiting 4 spots that night.

Kings Cross & Travel Fly By.

Sat eve traffic is a be*itch (why the fuck can't we just write the words normally on this site, wtf), but it ended up taking only an extra 15 minutes to get to Kelapa Gading. I had high hopes for KC from all the glowing reports I have seen. But getting there around 8, I found it to be a total joke. At reception, they told me the entrance fee is now 140 k, only payable if you don't take a girl, waived if you take a girl, no drink included. That sounds higher than other reports and I'm an easy newbie target, so I went in. The ground floor lounge was dead and I found the layout to be stupid. The 30 girls are all just sitting at tables in an unlit back area and the customer sofas face away from them, wtf. There were a few Chinese and Korean dudes at a couple tables so I got a chance to see their lineups and was unimpressed from the start. The girls in all 4 price levels were homely. They have a couple mamasans there now, and the one was fairly nice to me but no English. She brought me 3 lineups of different levels and I only saw 1 girl that was even a maybe for me. You know you're in the wrong place when you start feeling sorry for the girls you hope to abominate when they lineup for you. The Chinese / Korean guys ran off with freakin fuglies. But at least KC had good cold Carlsberg draft on tap, so it wasn't all lost. The 3rd floor band was going to start at 9 but it was completely empty so I left KC after 15 min. Total was 210 k (140 k entrance plus 70 k beer). Total waste of time and funds.

It was still before 9 and I wanted to check out other spots so swung past Travel. I was hoping for a quiet joint like 1001 or EMP but at the entrance of Travel I heard the crazy techno music thumping and wasn't in the mood, so hopped a Grab bike on to Royal VIP, thinking that would be quiet. Weaving through the lanes just above Loksari was quite cool, and I saw plenty of FLs standing on the side, some not unattractive.

Royal VIP.

To my surprise, Royal VIP lounge turned out to be f'ing loud too (didn't go to KTV floors) with DJ music pounding and girls just sitting at high tables in the corner. 25 girls sitting around. There really wasn't much to choose from and you can't get a good look when they just sit hovering over their devices. 1 table of Chinese gents called a couple lineups and ran off with some almost attractive girls. Mamasans were completely ignoring me and it took me a long time to realize that here you just got to be bold and walk straight up to the den of hens, walk around and survey them. I only discovered this when I saw some Chinese guys walk into VIP and dive straight into the crowd without even blinking.

I myself lost out on the one nice shorty I saw at Royal VIP because another guy just walked up and pointed her out to Mama in a flash. Fuck some of you guys have grown antennae! I don't know how you do it so fast. Yeah guess I'm just a dumb shit. Chinese and Korean guys don't have any problem with it. They just jump right into the pack and unabashedly survey the talent up close, then walk away or call one out as they feel. Following their lead, I dove into the flock once but didn't find my jewel and fled. Royal VIP had small bottles of Hoegaarden at 108 k, so I just finished a couple and left, no entrance fee, wanting to check out Royal again on the other Kota Indah street.

Royal (New Royal Bar).

Seems there is a little confusion about names and locations for this place. Some dudes refer to a Royal and some to a New Royal Bar. It looks to me like they are one in the same. Someone said before the New Royal is across from Travel, which is not right. But if you google New Royal Bar, it shows a different location 5 minutes from the Royal at KI complex, half way between Royal & Travel and up a bit. I think that is a Google Maps error, unless someone here knows of a 2nd New Royal Bar. (If you look at the photos of the New Royal Bar on Google Maps you'll see it's the same bar as Royal inside.) Anyway the receipt I got from Royal clearly says "New Royal" on top, so I guess these names are interchangeable for the same place.

Royal VIP was a joke but New Royal was fucking hot. So many girls, must have been 50, and lots of decent lookers, bodies, and spinners. On Saturdays the Royal girls wear uniform, very slinky black nightgowns, but short and cutoff just below the waist. Super hot and revealing. The thing with Royal and Royal VIP is that you got to be proactive and can't be shy. There were lots of younger Indo dudes in the place that were too shy to do that. The girls are all packed in one spot and aren't doing much to show themselves. Mamas won't bug you but then they don't approach you and lead the way either.

My first request for a petite spinner turned me down. Would not even look at me wtf. But lots of others were inviting me with eyes the longer I stayed. Tons of local dudes there but few acted. Maybe they were waiting for late night bargains?

Waited, dove into the pack, walked back to my stool, eyed some more, and did this over a few times and must have passed an hour. Then, BOOM! OMFG this 20 yo, 163 cm, 45 kg hottie with not an ounce of fat on the body was standing and smiling at me. Big smile with nice teeth. She was the only girl in the group smiling at all. I invited her to my spot and she was very nice. When I asked her at the table if I could kiss her everywhere she just smiled and nodded. I knew it was going to be fun, so off we went upstairs, and it was unforgettable.

Went to a room just above the bar. Quite a trip to fuck with the music pounding downstairs. In the past I couldn't really concentrate in those kinds of places (like Pattaya soi 6), but at Royal this was the first time it didn't bother me. Her body was so fucking amazing and she loved DATY. Skinny with huge jugs. 5 of her 45 kg must have been tits alone. Natural firm huge, tiny waistline almost put my hands around while fucking her later from behind. After my tongue and BBBJ got us going, she said get a condom. And when I asked for BBFS she said she would only do it for a 500 k tip. I said fucking hell yeah and IDGAF what any bros here think it was out of this world hot. Ramming away in so many positions and hearing her squeaking above the loud music below. Was a bit drunk too, so we both really let go.

Chatted away after shooting. She's been in Jakarta 3 months from Central Java. Her English actually could manage and she will be good at it later. When the 10 minute call came I started licking her buttocks and back and she got super horny again. She started gyrating hips into my little bro and wanted me to pronebone her. But I needed more time and it was late and already slightly drunk so didn't ask for session 2. (I was guessing it would have been 900 more for BBFS and bar fee. I didn't want to discuss it at that moment but it would have been worth it if I could have managed.) Total bill 710 K for 1 HR of fantastic kicking / scratching / biting / squealing sex (400 k), 2 beers, this pitcher of crazy Yakult and Soju mix she ordered (fucking good and strong) (310 k) plus 500 k BBFS = 1. 2 or $75 for an amazing girl. Royal, or New Royal, or whatever the fuck its called will be at the top of my budget and party joint list next time.

Thats all my reports for August. More to come on the next sexpedition.

[Volterra]

As the joke goes: 2 female friends are having a chat about their sexual skills, and Girl 1 asks Girl 2 for advice:

Girl 1 - "How do you give a good handjob?

Girl 2 "Use your mouth. "

I'm not into happy ending massages at all, so just a quick report here on seeking out a non sexual massage in Jakarta.

Early August I tried an in room massage at HI because the hotel spa next to the gym is still closed. I guess HI has the same spa ladies doing in room massages. I got a short, thin and very pretty Javanese MILF, can't recall the name, to do a one hour massage. The massage was just gentle oil rubbing with no pressure and didn't really satisfy my muscle needs. As expected after every PH and Indo massage from the past 2 months, she made add-on services available at the 45 minute point. But I don't respond at all to hand tugging, so I said no and she quickly changed the subject and got back on to the veggie massage, which turned out to be poor IMO.

I was doing lots of city walking and gym workouts in Jakarta and badly needed a real massage. I tried Hotel Mustika next to HI, only wanting veggie massage for 150 k. I was tempted however when my 24 yo masseuse named Fifi arrived at the dumpy room. She was freaking cute and nice features except for some belly blubber. She had some promising real massage skills and had the potential to be the real deal, but she was disinterested and kept texting with one hand while massaging with the other throughout, until I finally told her to put the fucking phone away, which she did. She offered extra services, including FS, but negotiations broke down for some reason I can't remember. I think she wanted 500 k fuck that. And she wouldn't do BB. Things went cold and I ended up leaving disgruntled with no tip. There were some cute receptionists at the hotel desk, one super flirtatious. Would rather have done her. Anyways wouldn't waste my time with either HI (expensive 400+k) or Mustika (cheap) massages.

And between PH and Indo, all in room massages were a joke, same lame massage and predictable offer of extra services with the curtains closed and "don't tell anyone. " I did get one damned good legit massage at Kokuo (varous locations but need to travel). Ended up with a dude masseuse and not gay. No shenanigans and came away fully recovered. I would go back to Kokuo for real massages, and call ahead to make sure they got space. Around 300 k.

[LoveItHere69]

If I'm with 1 girl all night I tend to be non-stop like 4-7 times in 1 night stand. Anyway I had to piss in the middle of the session and put a new Magnum Bareskin on but gave up during the 2nd condom as I couldn't cum and quickly left with no tip.

Most girls around the planet are 1-2 pops and no more. You act as if you get 4-7 pops regularly. I have to call BS on that even of you are paying a lot of money.

Why on earth do you feel the need to keep mentioning Magnum Bareskin? Are you a sales rep or think guys here are impressed?

No idea how long you with the girl but if you could not cum because you were tired you should have given at least a little money. If she was being difficult then good for you. Rare I do not tip but happened last week when she was doing a bunch of little stupid stuff to kill the mood and flow of the game. Like on purpose.

[Nuttin Serious]

EMP has gotten lots of good coverage here.

Another fantastic detailed report, thank you sir for taking the time.

[Volterra]

EMP has gotten lots of good coverage here. I had high hopes for my first visit. It delivered in terms of good atmosphere, professional service & transparent pricing. But it fell far short in overall girl offerings. Still, I was able to pull a phenomenal beauty and made EMP one of my top choices for the future.

EMP is similar to 1001 The Pool in many ways and at the same general price point. Both EMP and 1001 Pool customers are mainly Chinese, Japanese, Taiwanese, Singaporean & Malaysian. EMP also adds a sticker to phone camera when you arrive. The EMP pool is smaller than 1001 but much busier not for swimming but for getting into major foreplay with other couples all around you. The EMP girls are also employed through an agency and they work in 2 shifts 12-10 and 3-1. In general you can feel sex in the air more at EMP than at 1001 (where sex seems more reserved for privacy of the downstairs rooms). Experiencing hot 20 yo girls from EMP and 1001 just a few nights apart along with a few hot Indo asses from other bars in the same week was memorable to say the least.

I showed up around 8 on a weeknight and there were only a few guests in the fishbowl room but I later found that was because lots of customers were already in the KTV rooms, pool, and private rooms. It seems that David is the EMP papasan of the hour at ISG, but he wasn't around on my first visit. Instead I got a mamasan who I thought was very good also. She was very nice and calm, not at all pushy. She politely explained the 2 tiered pricing system including mandatory 200 k tip - 1. 433 juta girls on the right and 1. 633 girls on the left all wearing tight red evening gowns. She told me there was no entrance fee at all. ID get 30 minutes in the pool and 90 minutes in room, with larger room available at an extra 275 k.

Fortunately, the gowns exposed their bodies in detail and lots of them were busty. Unfortunately, there were only about 20 total and most were showing bulging bellies. Some were pretty, but I really had to scan quickly as they came and went. Strangely they all got called away to a KTV room so the bowl was completely empty for 10 minutes, and I strained to find even 2-3 that fit my specs as they reentered. Predictably, the 2 I homed in on were immediately snagged by 2 Indo dudes next to me just as I was ready to call Mama. Shit.

As recent reports have mentioned, there isn't much quality difference between price categories. If anything, most of the expensive ones had big bellies. I was about to give up and started to tell mamasan that I would come back another night when I decided to call over the 1 remaining possibility who had a super cute smiling face and tight belly.

So Mama called up Vita, this 20 yo half Chinese half Indo chick from a small town a couple hours outside Jakarta, to my table. When called, Vita at first grimaced so I thought maybe she didn't want me, but from then was all big smiles. (She said she was surprised because I was her first white flesh experience, who knows). Standing in front of me changed everything. She was f'ing dynamite tall at 163 cm (over 170 with heels), very cute Chinese face, with long full hair and nice figure that was both athletic and slender. Her looks were top tier top to bottom: face, hair, smell, teeth, skin, big tits, amazing ass and long shapely legs. Some guys on another forum say you can tell the hotties from their arms. Yeah, she had good ones and a good belly, but I've noticed that Vita and some other hot Indo girls had some especially nice feet as a sign of extra premium quality. Those high heels made Vita almost as tall as me, fucking hot for kissing and standing positions.

Vita was definitely fresh off the bus, only a few months in Jakarta (she used to work at KFC and wear a hijab) and still nave enough to have her guard down (gave me her Instagram and whatsapp). She seemed excited, so I took her right away. For the next 2 hours it was fantastic GFE and endless DFK, starting immediately in the pool, where she dry mounted me and sucked on my tongue while she stroked little bro. The EMP pool is fucking wild because you got all these other bros around you doing their thing with their gals and nobody gives a fuck. Hell yeah. Got me so hot I had us go to the room after 15 minutes, and Vita had to go get me a towel before I stood up from the pool to hide my erection LOL.

I went with a large room for the extra fee. Not seeing the regular room, it didn't seem like anything special though really nice inside. ID only get it again if I wanted a bath together. This time we just showered each other. Before stepping in, she held her towel on her body an extra few seconds and then, tadaa, let it fall as my f'ing jaw dropped at what I saw. This amazing amazonian figure.

Back on the bed, there was no hurry at all. But hell even if you have 90 minutes theres no way you can hold it with such a goddess. I tried to go slow. She did a fairly nice BBBJ with major ball sucking. The best part was watching her amazing ass / legs / face in all the different mirrors from different angles. BBFS was absolutely refused, which I expected, but the 1 big letdown was she also rejected DATY that I live for. Her pussy was so fine, and no matter how long I tried to convince her to let me, she just wouldn't let me go down. Good thing I slipped a couple of my Magnum Bareskins into my robe. These are better than the tight condoms issued by the clubs, and theyre the closest I've found to feeling natural.

She got on top and looked like a dream in cowgirl. It was good but unfortunately she lacked stamina, so I had to take the lead after a few minutes. She arched her back nicely in mish and took it like a champ from behind, where I shot at about the 30 minute mark. We kept up the GFE and DFK for the remaining hour, chatting through google translate. We almost got going again near the end with my BB lb rubbing her genitals, but she said no. Overall the body and GFE were exceptional, but she could have been more adventurous with PSE. (She said she was going drinking at the upscale H Club after work with 3 of her hot fds. I later saw the video of her doing whiskey shots at H Club on Instagram, holy fucking hot. I think she was auditioning for H Club job.).

When we finished, she showed me her tip card and asked if I wanted to give her one, but I told her that I was taking care of it upstairs with the bill, so didn't give extra tip to her. It seems that the tip card is in addition to the mandatory 200 k tip on everyone's bill. That's the only sketchy part I noticed at EMP. But she didn't push it. Also, we had a couple beers in the room that were expensive at 135 k each, so avoid those unless you really need them. The total bill came to 2. 1 juta including 3 beers and room upgrade worth it for an amazing girl like that.

In the end, I had a very good experience with EMP even if most of the beauties were already fucking in rooms. I saw lots of them in the hallway around 10 and could see that there are plenty of good options if you happen to arrive at the correct moment. The place is classy and professional. I will make it a regular stop but it needs more hot girls to fill the ranks.

[Volterra]

Just a short one here.

For down and dirty partying, I was more partial to Kota Indah. My first visit there was a flyby some of the joints before landing in Starmoon. I liked Royal the most (separate Royal report coming later) because I thought it had a real party vibe. Yeah it was loud but rockin loud and everyone havin a good time, without the pushy mamasans. The girls are stuffed in one corner so you can't see them but they come out for lineups and shit they are freaking good looking, nice and slutty. I wanted to check out Starmoon the same night, so didn't take a Royal girl but wish I had now.

Starmoon was relatively dead near midnight on a weeknight. But it was good and sleazy too. Mama was nice there, but yeah most girls were lazy and just sitting around, and they seem to have some belly. I told mama I wanted young, slim, and no babies, and she immediately pointed to a pretty girl I'the been eyeing and who was eyeing me. Eve was 23 and from Sumatra. She was very good looking, with an amazing ass and flesh, a bit of a belly but it was surprisingly tight and no baby damage. But she turned out to be a fucking starfish, friendly at the table but awful in bed. She wouldn't do BBFS but was still pushing for a tip through Google translate even as she refused no condom. She only grudgingly gave BBBJ so it wasn't hot at all, but she did enjoy getting her pussy licked a lot. Her pussy was awesome and DATY was the only positive of the punt. The ass pounding would have been phenomenal with its firm round shape if she wasn't such a fucking dead fish, just kind of stared off into imaginary space, so my little bro kind of faded away too.

This was my 2nd punt of the day, and I have unpredictable performance habits. If I'm with 1 girl all night I tend to be non-stop like 4-7 times in 1 night stand. If I have civvy dates, I can manage an early evening shag and go out and do it again with date number 2 the same night but that 2nd shag is iffy at best. But I can't seem to manage multiple punts at different establishments in a given day like a lot of the dynamo dudes on ISG can. Fuck I wish I could. Anyway I had to piss in the middle of the session and put a new Magnum Bareskin on but gave up during the 2nd condom as I couldn't cum and quickly left with no tip. Only 400 k for the shag and beer, so no loss at all. There were a couple sexy solo dancers up as I walked out, so I will visit next trip to try other slutty looking milfs there when I'm in the mood.

[Volterra]

Great report, I'm looking forward to reading the rest of them!

During the month did you hit up Malio or was it not worth it?

I didn't hit Malio this trip. Recent reports kind a turned me off to its prices and service. I'll probably try it next time.

[Zippos]

To each their own.

I'm not saying what one should or must do but personally I would video call before meeting any FL / online date considering the factors of pushing through Jakarta traffic, time and the awkwardness at scene! Don't forget, if someone is catfishing you, she or he-she very much comes prepared to lure you into the trap.

I've been catfished many times and not taking a second chance. Do know though, with all the fillers that's available on those cheap Chinese phones, we can be very much misled believing the person is in her 20's, not the actual 40's and the greatest miracle of 21st century, padded bra!

I personally don't blame those Chinese punters when I see them feeling up the boobs before taking girls! I don't do it and wouldn't do it, in-fact it's kinda sickening to see that but I can certainly see the point of doing it.

Great reports bro, I'm definitely a Jakarta convert too.

On the tinder / civvie game I find that video call probably is unnecessary, I normally call a girl out to a nice coffee shop near my place. If she is a catfish, no damage done & I tell her I have to go back to my hotel urgently to wash my hair or sth. Conversely if a girl asks me for a video call I would probably reject them as well because it's just a bit heavy before first melting.

My favourite was Classic, I wouldn't worry too much about the MMS. I just sit there and chill & they don't bother me too much.

[Sychip1]

My top 10 on the August Jakarta charts is the following, ordered best to worst:

1. 1001 The Pool.

2. Royal (New Royal Bar).

3. Emporium.

4. Starmoon.

5. Classic Terminal and Spa.

6. Royal VIP.

7. Kings Cross.

8. Travel.

9. Hotel Mustika (massage).

10. Online apps Tdr / Wechat / Michat waste of time with catfish and princesses.

Every guy has their own tastes, so I aint sayin this should be the order for anyone else. Just that when guys do their RTFF through hundreds of pages and senior dudes bitching at them when they can't make heads or tails of the millions a bits of info, maybe it helps to see how other guys' tastes may align with or rub against your own as you plot out and prioritize your limited mongering time.

My individual reports from some (not all) August adventures coming in the next couple days. Revel on mates.

Great reports bro, I'm definitely a Jakarta convert too.

On the tinder / civvie game I find that video call probably is unnecessary, I normally call a girl out to a nice coffee shop near my place. If she is a catfish, no damage done & I tell her I have to go back to my hotel urgently to wash my hair or sth. Conversely if a girl asks me for a video call I would probably reject them as well because it's just a bit heavy before first meeting.

My favourite was Classic, I wouldn't worry too much about the MMS. I just sit there and chill & they don't bother me too much.

[WestCoast1]

Through August, I overpaid a few times, but only costing me an extra $30 or so in total, which I'll chalk up to experience. Would be good to hear from any of you recent 1001 veterans what the accurate current girl fee is. 1. 55 seems a bit high but in fact cheaper than top EMP girls and better quality / selection. But if it should be 1. 4 then be prepared to push when you go in. For me, 1001 still hits the mark for ST venues. In USD terms the $100+ I paid for 2. 5 hours with 1 goddess at 1001 was much better spent than the $95 for 3 hours for an unsatisfying threesome and food / drinks at Classic. Quality over quantity here. Ill do 1001 regularly alternating with other joints, but with longer recovery periods (2-3 days) between visits since I can't fuck 3 times everyday like the other randy a-holes on this forum.

Volt, great reports. Its been a decade since I was in Indo. So many fond memories. A few throwback pics for the gents.

[Incrociatore]

Prices are insane, even compared to Thailand. 1. 5, 2, 3 millions IDR? That is crazy! I don't know if you guys are totally incompetent or if you are so ugly that you need to pay so much to get laid. Indonesia is cheap, and yet you pay prices that are absurd. You must be all dumb, with all due respect.

[TropicanGeorge]

1001 Pool has gotten good reviews here and it got the gold medal for my visit. I went mid August on a weeknight around 8 pm. Going past the more expensive Colosseum club and into the hotel entrance beyond it, the security and reception staff is very professional. It's a bit of a maze getting up to The Pool up elevator and through corridors. (The reception / cashier desk noted that the minimum entrance fee was 200 k inclusive of 1 Corona beer, but I guess the fee gets waved if you take a girl and then you pay for the drink separately. The 1001 cost structure became confusing to me later between what ID read on ISG forum, what mamasan and reception told me, and what was listed on my final bill.).

On the way up, I accidently got in the elevator with the head mamasan, who was professionally dressed and good balance of proactive but not pushy. (Kind of wish I hadn't because I think she charged me higher for girls.) Once I stepped inside I knew it was exactly my style. Unlike the f'ing craziness of Classic, Travel, and other more budget friendly joints, it was more chill with music lite in the background, good ambience of darker guest area and well lit fishbowl. It was almost empty at 8 (got busier after 9) and I was the only 1 at the front tables facing around 50 stunning young fishbowl girls. They all dressed in slinky, tightly fitted black evening gowns so I could really get a good look at their figures.

Mamasan first escorted me to tables then fucked off when I told her I wanted time to myself to enjoy my drink and the view, but she repeated her name to me several times to make sure she got the call when I was ready to move. When I called mama back to discuss girl fees, she quoted me 1. 55 juta, which is higher than ISG reports from months back. I don't know if prices have gone up, or maybe she quotes higher because she's a lead mama, or she just took advantage of it being my first visit (and me being a horny green dumb shit)..

Great report, I'm looking forward to reading the rest of them!

During the month did you hit up Malio or was it not worth it?

[Banana Boi]

No, I was there a week ago and LT5 wasn't opened yet.

I wonder if maybe it was a confusion on what he's calling Terminal 2. You walk into the lobby, and you go up like 3 escalators to get to Terminal 2. I think lobby is G, then UG, then 1, then 2.

To get to 5, you can't take the escalators, it's elevators only.

Only Vendelo can confirm this for us. When I originally read his post I was shocked to read there were 90+ girls at 3 pm on Level 5. I rarely go to Level 5 and haven't been since maybe 2017 or 2018 so never questioned the post.

[United1]

At Jonny. INMO, seeking has gone down last 3 years I come to Jakarta. Is same girls, so after 1 week you will encounter everyone. All the hots are in Baii or Singapore. But at least expectations are clear. Tinder has a lot quanity, and they will find you. But you will probably spend a lot of time scan through fake profiles and fake photos. BATS / CJs full of 30-40 age washed out hags. That's not a good alternatives.

If I was in your shoes. I would try seeking (look for 33% promo code on googles) and if you have the local sim card, Tinder can be cheap. I usually pay 2. 5 M for seeking girls per sessun.

So it's my first time in Indonesia and wanted to get some advice; what are my best options. I am chatting to a number of girls on Seeking but wondered how they compared to tinder girls over there and to the girls at the clubs. I prefer the longer meets with dinner etc and Seeking has always been good for this (in Europe at least), but as I don't have loads of time I need tp prioritise and was wondering how the tinder girls and the girls at BATS / CJ might compare, and also, in terms of looks how do the club / spa girls at Emporium / Classic compare?