Pattaya Reports

[EverythingThai]

First of all I want to thank you KrumeLurer for taking the time to express your opinion and share factual information about having sex with girls in Thailand. Second, I see nothing wrong with your opinion nor do I see a problem with the information provided. If anything for me it provides motivation to learn Thai and become more culturally sensitive. I actually don't tip a girl for a naughty massage. I pay for the service. Now if I am getting a regular massage I routinely tip the massage girl 100 THB. Learned how to tip in Pattya from my ATF. I sought her guidance until I got a feel for it. In fact, one time we went to get manicure / pedicures together. I had a girl working on my hands and my feet When the were finished I paid the fee then tipped them each 100 THB. She thought that was WAY too much. From the reaction of the girls who did my work in the nail salon she were right. Their eyes lit up and they thanked me profusely. That was priceless and is and experience those with alligator arms will never have. If a freelancer performs exceptionally well, I will pay for her round trip motorbike taxi fee so she can keep the total amount for the sexual services provided.

No one tells me how much to tip or how to spend my hard earned money. I have never had anyone call me stupid to my face over such a minor issue of protocol wish the would.

As for the reasons prices go up, economics is not as clear cut as some would make it. Because I see examples given all the time that does not consider the basics of supply and demand. The reality of Thailand is that there is not a real supply problem when it comes to pussy. Girls across the country turn 18 everyday. Some decide to become prostitutes for the International Tricks that come from all over the world and post up in here. So, lack of supply is not the reason prices go up. My understanding is that demand grows by the season. The more International Tricks visit in a particular time period the less prostitutes are available per International Trick. Pussy supply and demand for it changes depending upon the geographical location in Thailand.

The pussy market is not a efficient market. There are not records of the prices being paid as the trades are being made nor is there an order book like when I sit in front of my screen and watch the red and green candlesticks forming. Therefore NO ONE can be sure of what anyone else is actually paying because each deal is private. Someone with a desire for pussy now may be willing to pay 500 THB more for the exactly same pussy someone else negotiates 500 THB less for. Either way the two International Tricks with the prostitute in the middle does not know what each other are paying. Only she does.

I come from a household of frugality. My Mother taught me how to get value for the resources I expend. Now I often disagreed with her that the time she spent saving money could be better spend making it but contradicting my parents had a cost. I chose to keep my mouth shut most of the time and when I didn't I paid that cost.

Looking around Pattaya what can you buy with 500 THB? I can get a room for the night. I can get BBBJCIM. I can buy the majority of the meals I eat out. I can buy enough fruits and vegetables at my local market that it requires two reusable grocery bags to carry it back to my room. I can buy 3 of my favorite ciders. I can buy a bottle of rum. I can tip the door man of one the Agogo's that employ racist policies to prevent certain people from entering. I can pay for 62.9 percent of a rack of tequila in Maggie Mays.

If someone wants to worry about 500 THB on vacation can someone please tell me why that is a problem? Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call! I don't need someone to tell me to stay in my lane as perceived by someone else. I can enjoy Kao Man Gui just a much as I can enjoy meal of Wagau beef.

Any mother fucking time that I want to!

You make some good points about the price the working girls charge are not as simple as supply, but demand is a different story. When demand goes up in high season, the girls charge more and are also more selective. They will pass on the expat who normally pays them 1500 baht and wait for the Korean tourist to come in who will pay double. However, after high season, expats like Explorer who mention it all the time are crawling in pussy for next to nothing. He comments all the time that during high season, he never hears from them.

Another good point you make was about guys and how they can spend their money the way they want because it's their dick and that's very true. However, the OP I commented on, said the original opp was behaving stupidly for leaving a 500 Baht tip. Is this not the same. I think it is. Whether someone pays more or less than another punter would pay or tip, does not make that person stupid. As you said, it's their money right? They can tip 100 baht or 500 baht and it won't raise the prices that others pay.

I agree with the other point that you made, where you say that nobody else can be sure what others Pay. The girls may talk amonst themselves, same with some punters, but when they are alone with their customer or girl, the punter may pay more because he really wants to fuck the girl. The girl may accept less because she is really into the guy or she really needs money for something like a sick parent or she is behind on her rent.

A few places where you and I differ greatly in opinion though are these. The poster we are discussing that called the original op stupid, did not supply any useful info. At first I thought you were being sarcastic, but its not clear. Anyways, he just accused another member of tipping too much because tipping too much causes the prices to go up and thats just false. His money, his dick right? Why is it ok to tell someone he is behaving stupidly for tipping 500 baht, but not ok for someone to say that 500 Baht is no big deal. I am a strong believer that when you fly half way across the world for a 2 week holiday, small bits of money should not be a concern to you. Small things like this can ruin one's holiday. For instance, if you are here on holiday and you think you were overcharged on a bar bill for 500 Baht, are you going to argue and cause a huge fight over it or just walk away and never go back? As a guy on holiday, I would choose the latter and walk away. For expats on the other hand it's completely different. 500 baht is exactly as you put it, it can buy a lot. Then about the Thai thing, yes it may motivate another punter to learn more Thai and Thai culture so he can play in the Thai pool. However, this is the Pattaya thread and its mostly made up of tourists. The majority of tourists dont want to go to the Thai areas in most cases. They dont want a difficult encounter. They dont want to deal with a dick scared Thai only working girl. They come for Soi 6 and walking street. Finally, about nobody telling you where you can and cant go, stay in your lane. Thats not what I was saying at all. In fact, you and I had a discussion once about fitting a round peg into a square hole and why you don't want to do that by trying to get with a girl who is not interested in you. We can apply that line of thinking here as well. For example, one punter either does not have the money or has the money, but is very careful with his money so he wont go to Pin Up because he knows he wont spend the money the girls are asking there. So, what does he do? Instead of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, he goes to a gents club. Why? Because Pattaya is so fucking great that he can. That is what I mean. Anyways, these are my comments about your thoughts. Looking forward to drinks in Pattaya soon.

Peace out.

ET.

[Explorer8939]

Hi,

When you are in a nightclub, for example insomnia, myst, republic. If you pick up a girl at your hotel after the party, how much money do you give her?

Thanks.

Hansum young man pays 500-1000 baht for taxi money.

[NRandom940]

Who the F* tips 500 for a massage?! Its because of such stupid behavior that prices go up. 100 baht max, or more reasonable 50 baht.

Now I will show you what thais are paying for ST in Siracha. When it says 1500/2, it means 1500 for cum 2 times.

What site is that?

[SubCmdr]

Who the F* tips 500 for a massage?! Its because of such stupid behavior that prices go up. 100 baht max, or more reasonable 50 baht.

Now I will show you what thais are paying for ST in Siracha. When it says 1500/2, it means 1500 for cum 2 times.

First of all I want to thank you KrumeLurer for taking the time to express your opinion and share factual information about having sex with girls in Thailand. Second, I see nothing wrong with your opinion nor do I see a problem with the information provided. If anything for me it provides motivation to learn Thai and become more culturally sensitive. I actually don't tip a girl for a naughty massage. I pay for the service. Now if I am getting a regular massage I routinely tip the massage girl 100 THB. Learned how to tip in Pattya from my ATF. I sought her guidance until I got a feel for it. In fact, one time we went to get manicure / pedicures together. I had a girl working on my hands and my feet When the were finished I paid the fee then tipped them each 100 THB. She thought that was WAY too much. From the reaction of the girls who did my work in the nail salon she were right. Their eyes lit up and they thanked me profusely. That was priceless and is and experience those with alligator arms will never have. If a freelancer performs exceptionally well, I will pay for her round trip motorbike taxi fee so she can keep the total amount for the sexual services provided.

No one tells me how much to tip or how to spend my hard earned money. I have never had anyone call me stupid to my face over such a minor issue of protocol wish the would.

As for the reasons prices go up, economics is not as clear cut as some would make it. Because I see examples given all the time that does not consider the basics of supply and demand. The reality of Thailand is that there is not a real supply problem when it comes to pussy. Girls across the country turn 18 everyday. Some decide to become prostitutes for the International Tricks that come from all over the world and post up in here. So, lack of supply is not the reason prices go up. My understanding is that demand grows by the season. The more International Tricks visit in a particular time period the less prostitutes are available per International Trick. Pussy supply and demand for it changes depending upon the geographical location in Thailand.

The pussy market is not a efficient market. There are not records of the prices being paid as the trades are being made nor is there an order book like when I sit in front of my screen and watch the red and green candlesticks forming. Therefore NO ONE can be sure of what anyone else is actually paying because each deal is private. Someone with a desire for pussy now may be willing to pay 500 THB more for the exactly same pussy someone else negotiates 500 THB less for. Either way the two International Tricks with the prostitute in the middle does not know what each other are paying. Only she does.

I come from a household of frugality. My Mother taught me how to get value for the resources I expend. Now I often disagreed with her that the time she spent saving money could be better spend making it but contradicting my parents had a cost. I chose to keep my mouth shut most of the time and when I didn't I paid that cost.

Looking around Pattaya what can you buy with 500 THB? I can get a room for the night. I can get BBBJCIM. I can buy the majority of the meals I eat out. I can buy enough fruits and vegetables at my local market that it requires two reusable grocery bags to carry it back to my room. I can buy 3 of my favorite ciders. I can buy a bottle of rum. I can tip the door man of one the Agogo's that employ racist policies to prevent certain people from entering. I can pay for 62.9 percent of a rack of tequila in Maggie Mays.

If someone wants to worry about 500 THB on vacation can someone please tell me why that is a problem? Your time; Your money; Your dick; Your call! I don't need someone to tell me to stay in my lane as perceived by someone else. I can enjoy Kao Man Gui just a much as I can enjoy meal of Wagau beef.

Any mother fucking time that I want to!

[EverythingThai]

Who the F* tips 500 for a massage?! Its because of such stupid behavior that prices go up. 100 baht max, or more reasonable 50 baht.

Now I will show you what thais are paying for ST in Siracha. When it says 1500/2, it means 1500 for cum 2 times.

Now I am going to point out the flaw in your logic. Tips don't raise prices. Inflation and supply and demand are what raise prices. Secondly, you can't compare what Thai people pay to what foreigners should pay. It is what it is for many reasons, such as language, culture and so on. Not all can play in the Thai pool. There are two reasons for this. Number 1 is language and number 2 is tourists don't have time for it and they don’t often go to the non tourist areas. I can never understand the logic of some punters blaming others for prices rising. It's simply not the case. Economics 101.

What is a constant in Pattaya is that there are so many different options with different price points, that cater to everyone's budget. Go where you can afford to go or go where you most enjoy yourself. It's when the punter who wants to pay 1000 for ST with no bar fine walks into XS go go or Pin Up and expects the same that causes issues and complaints. I compare this to restaurants. You don't go to Horizon at the Hilton when you only want to spend the same as street food costs. You also don't go to buy street food and expect to get beef tenderloin with a magnificent view.

In summary. Go where you want and spend what you want at places that match your budget or your idea of what you want to pay. There is a place that is a good match for everyone. Who worries about 500 baht while on vacation?

[KrumeLurer]

So I live in Sriracha, and while there are quite a few bars with girls that will make you drink till you drop without a chance in the world to get them in bed (I. E. I am not Japanese), I went for a B2 B massage instead. The Green Healthy Massage girl was a cute 7. 5, and she wanted 1000 for a wank, 1500 to see her naked and feel her up, and 2500 for 10 minutes of B2 B. I tipped her 500 after a decent massage and walked out. She was pissed. I get it, because I didn't want to pay that much. I tried to bargain but she wouldn't budge. 2200 for B2 B was her final offer. I understand she needs the money, but I could probably get laid in Sriracha for 1300 with a Uni girl (although I have not found them yet. I'm new here). Feiya was her name, and she said those prices are standard in Sriracha. That HAS to be total BS, when I think about what you can get in next door Pattaya. The nerve. I went to the bar afterwards and got 2 LINE contacts. Not a bad night after all. Action shall come later.

Who the F* tips 500 for a massage?! Its because of such stupid behavior that prices go up. 100 baht max, or more reasonable 50 baht.

Now I will show you what thais are paying for ST in Siracha. When it says 1500/2, it means 1500 for cum 2 times.

[UglyAzzMan]

Walking to the Drizzle yesterday. Soi 6 has some attractive ness going on.

Nothing Crazy but a few Semi Hotties are ready for action. Or no action. Gnome saying.

[UglyAzzMan]

So I live in Sriracha, and while there are quite a few bars with girls that will make you drink till you drop without a chance in the world to get them in bed (I. E. I am not Japanese), I went for a B2 B massage instead. The Green Healthy Massage girl was a cute 7. 5, and she wanted 1000 for a wank, 1500 to see her naked and feel her up, and 2500 for 10 minutes of B2 B. I tipped her 500 after a decent massage and walked out. She was pissed. I get it, because I didn't want to pay that much. I tried to bargain but she wouldn't budge. 2200 for B2 B was her final offer. I understand she needs the money, but I could probably get laid in Sriracha for 1300 with a Uni girl (although I have not found them yet. I'm new here). Feiya was her name, and she said those prices are standard in Sriracha. That HAS to be total BS, when I think about what you can get in next door Pattaya. The nerve. I went to the bar afterwards and got 2 LINE contacts. Not a bad night after all. Action shall come later.

A CUTE 7. 00.

Her prices were not out of line.

[Ablablat]

So I live in Sriracha, and while there are quite a few bars with girls that will make you drink till you drop without a chance in the world to get them in bed (I. E. I am not Japanese), I went for a B2 B massage instead. The Green Healthy Massage girl was a cute 7. 5, and she wanted 1000 for a wank, 1500 to see her naked and feel her up, and 2500 for 10 minutes of B2 B. I tipped her 500 after a decent massage and walked out. She was pissed. I get it, because I didn't want to pay that much. I tried to bargain but she wouldn't budge. 2200 for B2 B was her final offer. I understand she needs the money, but I could probably get laid in Sriracha for 1300 with a Uni girl (although I have not found them yet. I'm new here). Feiya was her name, and she said those prices are standard in Sriracha. That HAS to be total BS, when I think about what you can get in next door Pattaya. The nerve. I went to the bar afterwards and got 2 LINE contacts. Not a bad night after all. Action shall come later.

[SubCmdr]

If she goes with you without asking for money up front you don't have to give here anything. Offer to take her to breakfast.

Hi,

When you are in a nightclub, for example insomnia, myst, republic. If you pick up a girl at your hotel after the party, how much money do you give her?

Thanks.

[MxTH9]

Hi,

When you are in a nightclub, for example insomnia, myst, republic. If you pick up a girl at your hotel after the party, how much money do you give her?

Thanks.

[LittleBigMan]

Not sure were I wrote it! I went to Shark since a women I've know for years is working there with her daughter who is a Tom both are service staff. I was there as they say for the soft opening. My update I got prior when she worked at IIVY, next door to XS, now closed, while Shark was under construction to picked up a job temporary at Farenheit. The banner outside covering the construction listed a number of GoGo to the group that owns Shark. Let me see memory? Skyfall, Farenhelt, Bliss, Mandarin or Mamasan? Palace these come to mind.

The setup, I did sit in the middle, I would agree the numbers didn't reflect more that what I saw at XS or Pin up, but remember with contracts today many girls rotate to the other clubs so if you go one period if the girl is having a tough go will move to the others and so on and so on so if the lineup is good now to a person but not the next week or two. Remember, we are talking looks again do I need to say more. This pattern I noticed at times at Pin Up and XS, I saw a number I like return and they were gone. I noticed the night I was there the stage in the back girls are usually clothes and at a certain point work their way up to the two stages in the front and do a show but I didn't see any tops come off this group.

That evening I went to a number of clubs I never went to IIVY when it was opened due to a girl I didn't want bothering me, but told when it closed the group from Pinup and XS, took over the space and called it Chicks, personally I thought that evening going first to Pinup, Shark, I was surprised how large the space was, stage is high up so sitting in the back rows would be easy on the neck. I sat down next to the older mamasan, a bit nasty, telling me to take a girl buy some drinks personally I thought that night they have the best lineup of places I went.

[Rocko20]

Nice report. You ruined it tho by using the adjective "classy". Nothing "classy" about Patts.

I disagree. Pattaya has villas, resorts, 5 star hotels, penthouses, suites, top fine dining restaurants, and other things considered "classy.” Hilton Pattaya is right off beach road, which I definitely consider classy.

That's what makes it so great. You can live like a local, expat, or a tourist. Theres something for everyone.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

A few weeks ago I saw that ad circulating on social media.

Interesting to see which places are interconnected, even with Mandarin and Red Dragon in Nana.

Yes interesting.

I wouldn't have thought that these places had the same source. The concepts, the prices charged, the music are quite different. I like going from Farenheit to the Palace for example, I feel like I'm changing atmosphere.

It's not the same approach as XS, Pin Up, Chick, and Opium who replicate the same concept, the same menu, the same prices, the same music, the same Line Up circulation. I love these gogos. But I wonder if practicing the same concept isn't ultimately quite boring.

By extension, I would dare say that it's also the same flaw as Soi 6 with NightWish.

Notwithstanding the quality of the girls of course.

[Pimpampoumpipo]

How many girls were there and which night of the week did you go? I'm sure Shark still doesn't have even half as many girls as XS or Pin Up on the same night. .

I went there almost every night of the week. Yes Shark reopened on WS maybe about 1 month ago.

I didn't count the girls but you're probably right. There are more girls at XS and Pin Up I think too. However the layout of the scenes can be misleading.

I'll try to count next time ^^