TSG is a brothel operating out of a few hotels in the Sukhumvit / Thong Long areas. They have a profile on fiwfans, but the website is in Thai and google translate is a bit wonky because it's all in slang and the photos are photoshopped.
It might've been my luck but I found some real gems on there on my last visit to BKK.
I googled tsgsideline.com and did google translate. I see some good profiles, how do I get in touch to book time especially if it is incall hotel shared by several as the thread comments indicate.
Do I need the LINE app to connect and chat with the girl I like to arrange for the meet? Any other things you did to get confirmation on price, menu and the girl?
I see 2400 $ for 2 shots 90 minutes, which is a very good price assuming the girls are even half as good as the pics show.
You can disagree with some of El Mexicant's methods but I appreciate his useful tips ie the True Coffee shop info.
Don't forget about the monk fruit. It's not sugar. It's a zero calorie sweetener that may be a "life saver. " Definitely, game changer when it comes to my desserts. Nom Nom.
Much wonder how about the price for LT in those gogo bar girls from Nana or Soi Cowboy or perhaps Thermae Girls? I heard and read from some posting it cost between 7 K to 8 K + BF? Don't want to ruined the market price but if this price is real, then MP asking declare prices for 8 hours outcall service for overnight should be reasonable then?
MD.
I don't really like the gogo's but I'd agree the MP's quite well priced for LT outcalls.
The dating APP's particularly TF is another route. I find most FL's will quote you a LT price even without you asking and it is usually only 1,000 or 1,500 more than the ST price.
I assume a lot of the girls aren't getting multiple appointments every day and many don't get anything at all everyday so I find them quite eager for you to book them for the night a day or two in advance. That way they are guaranteeing themselves an income I suppose. On my last trip I'd get repeated messages quite often from girls over a number of days asking if I wanted to meet up tonight or tomorrow.
Just prepare your hotel room in advance as in have the valuables locked away, no large amount of cash lying around etc. I'd also generally keep any expensive clothes etc in the suitcase, closed and in the wardrobe.
I am visiting in 2 weeks and was initially going for outcall to hotel but after reading about the soapy massage and picking from a line up seems very interesting option. Seems like Poseidon, La Belle, Emanuelle are the often cited places and intend to visit each of them. Have a few questions given your recent trip to Poseidon. Is the session typically GFE with DFK? Is the default 1 shot in 90 minutes or 2 shots are allowed? Lastly, in general, do we have to carry condoms or the girls have them. Not sure of the protocol hence the qn.
Girls, shops supply condoms. Some FL's on outcall will use yours if you are a trustable sort of person, but I find they generally prefer to use their own.
In soapies, generally not a GFE or DFK, obviously you'll get the odd exception, but the routine is more mechanical and uniform (pre-rehearsed).
I've been told always 2 shots is allowed if you are up to it in the 90 minutes. I've found if you are aroused early they'll try and get you to shoot early as part of the stage act, as they'll expect you to want to go again in the last 30 minutes of the session.
Much wonder how about the price for LT in those gogo bar girls from Nana or Soi Cowboy or perhaps Thermae Girls? I heard and read from some posting it cost between 7 K to 8 K + BF? Don't want to ruined the market price but if this price is real, then MP asking declare prices for 8 hours outcall service for overnight should be reasonable then?
MD.
I've never done LT but I would think it's 5 K and up plus barfine and drinks.
As for a LT from an MP, pre-covid a LT from a girl in Snow White was 5 K plus 1 K to the shop. I don't think their prices have changed much.
I was on a quick business trip to Bangkok from Manila. Due to being a last minute schedule, didn't have much time and opportunity to look for Non-pro civi online scene. I was mostly busy with meetings and delegates. Finally had the opportunity on last day. Went to Poseidon after almost a decade later. Not as thriving as it used to be. Upon entering, I was escorted by the mamasaan to 3rd floor. There were approximately 18/19 girls of different shapes and ages, prices ranges from.
THB 3900 to 7900. Picked a lady from the 3900 range, paid up and off to the room.
Just like any other Soapy, same rituals of Bathtub activity then off to couch for more BBBJ and teasing. There was no body to body on the floor, not sure if that's something they don't offer anymore. Main action stared with more BBBJ then cap on and straight to cowgirl. 10 min of deep penetration then switched to side for better view and tightness while she started screaming. Switched to missionary and released.
Total damage: THB 3,900 + 500 tips / drinks.
Last time I was in Bangkok was on 2019 and scene has definitely changed to better for sure. I was staying around SOI 11 and street walkers inventory was pretty good. Didn't inquire their prices. I had retired from Bangkok almost 6 years ago and shifted to Indonesia-Philippines-Malaysia. With Philippines being partial bust and amount of time required to score a non-pro can be hectic process, Bangkok is back to the list.
I am visiting in 2 weeks and was initially going for outcall to hotel but after reading about the soapy massage and picking from a line up seems very interesting option. Seems like Poseidon, La Belle, Emanuelle are the often cited places and intend to visit each of them. Have a few questions given your recent trip to Poseidon. Is the session typically GFE with DFK? Is the default 1 shot in 90 minutes or 2 shots are allowed? Lastly, in general, do we have to carry condoms or the girls have them. Not sure of the protocol hence the qn.
A few months ago (June 2024), price was more or less 3 K for ST and 700 to 1 K for barfine in most of the places.
Much wonder how about the price for LT in those gogo bar girls from Nana or Soi Cowboy or perhaps Thermae Girls? I heard and read from some posting it cost between 7 K to 8 K + BF? Don't want to ruined the market price but if this price is real, then MP asking declare prices for 8 hours outcall service for overnight should be reasonable then?
You should write a letter of complaints to the bar for not serving for free (giving away to the passer by's) your needed type of sugar. Possibly indicate a preferred brand.
I think it's outrageous they don't do that, Mr Troll.
Did you exercise a lot to jump the BTS turn styles not to pay the fare? Or are you specialised in running away from a taxi at destination without paying?
You are a disgrace to visitors reputation!
You can disagree with some of El Mexicant's methods but I appreciate his useful tips ie the True Coffee shop info.
Anybody knows where in Silom has coffee shops that don't require any purchase for you to just sit there, (...)
. On the way out, grabbed 10 packets of brown sugar for my oatmeal. I usually prefer monk fruit, calorie free, but I am always on a deficit anyways, so it doesn't matter much.
You should write a letter of complaints to the bar for not serving for free (giving away to the passer by's) your needed type of sugar. Possibly indicate a preferred brand.
I think it's outrageous they don't do that, Mr Troll.
Did you exercise a lot to jump the BTS turn styles not to pay the fare? Or are you specialised in running away from a taxi at destination without paying?
Anybody knows where in Silom has coffee shops that don't require any purchase for you to just sit there, take off your shoes, prop your feet onto another chair, and relax while browsing porn on your tablet or smart and phone? I got caught in the heavy rain yesterday afternoon and had to use my skills at Starbucks. They have luxurious chairs for their customers. All I did was pretend to clear a table and snagged the previous customer's old cup and made myself at home. Did NOT have to buy anything. Was able to watch an entire full length porn movie. This was a nice feeling. On the way out, grabbed 10 packets of brown sugar for my oatmeal. I usually prefer monk fruit, calorie free, but I am always on a deficit anyways, so it doesn't matter much.
Had to find the answer myself because there wasn't anybody in tuned with Bangkok like me. Guess I am the expert of my own adventures. True Coffee is free respite for anyone with True plan. No purchase necessary. Got to relax for free.
Just finished out 10 days in Thailand. Spent 5 days in Bangkok and 5 in Pattaya. Hoping this detailed report will be useful to others traveling out this way. I'm posting in both the Bangkok and Pattaya threads.
Just by way of quick background, I'm from NYC and frequent a lot of the agencies there that have young Japanese girls working, so that was sorta my reference point for this trip. Now that I've mongered abroad, I'm starting to realize how good we have it in NYC as far as quality and service goes, although it is expensive. My report on the 10 days spent in Thailand is as follows:
Bangkok:
La belle: Tried this place on my last day as I wanted to experience one of Bangkok's famous "entertainment complexes". The place is basically a hotel but for hookers and massage LOL. Big lobby when you walk in where customers can sit and drink. Girls are up on a stage and seated near the bar as well. Every girl had a different ranking / price with the lower end being about $3 k baht for 90 minutes while upper end was 6-8 k. Most of the pricier girls had a more East Asian look with pale skin, and a few that I talked to said they were in fact mixed Thai / Chinese. I ended up doing a double here for under 10 k baht. Fun times but I do think you will find younger, cuter and less seasoned girls working at the gogo bars. You will also be able to get extras at the gogos like BBFS and video if that's your thing. I doubt these upgrades are on the table at soapy massage joints. I will also note that they don't have air mats at La Belle, which sorta sucks. You will get a nice soapy massage in the tub but they can't really do nuru. Still, this place was an experience, had around 30 girls available when I went during the afternoon, and there was way less BS to deal with compared to gogo. Good prices too.
Dozo Massage: Went here on my first day and I was so exhausted from the 20 hour flight I almost fell asleep during the mat play LOL. Similar experience to La belle but fewer girls and smaller venue. Not very GFE but the Mat play and nuru were pretty good, think I spent about it 6-8 k for 60 minutes. Tried to come back here on my last night but they only had 3 girls available so I bailed. I would recommend the place. Girls were hot and the soapy massage plus mat play was pretty damn good. But I think you're better off going early in the day. Seemed kinda dead when I went at night. During my first visit I went in the afternoon and they gave me a lineup of maybe 6-7 girls.
Aya Massage: This place was good bang for buck. Did 60 minutes nuru with a fairly hot girl, probably late 20's early 30's. Price was quite low at just 5 k baht for nuru and VIP room. Not my most memorable experience and again, no air mat for nuru. But if you're looking for some low cost fun, it's a good option. They gave me a lineup of at least 20 girls. A few of their girls were hot and young, some less so. It's a mid tier spot.
Kings Castle 1: Best gogo bar I went to in PatPong. I never would have found this spot on my own. But I was fortunate enough to meet another American at one of the gogo bars who had spent 6 months living in Bangkok. He took me to patpong one night and we ended up at this place. They have hot young girls and I took home a gem. One of my favorite girls of the trip. Young, slim and cute with braces, no tattoos, perfect tits and a tight ass. Wanted her to stay for overnight but she had class in the AM haha. Paid 5 k for ST plus 2 k tip to creampie her.
Baccara: The only place on Soi Cowboy that I found was worth my time. My newfound expat buddy mentioned above introduced me to the place during my first or second night in Bangkok. They had some hot young girls working, but overall I found quality was much better in Nana Plaza. The main thing I liked about Baccara was it had a good vibe. All girls wore short skirts without panties and the bar right in front of the stage was a mirror hehe. Also, if you're on the first floor and look up, you can see through the stage on the second floor where more girls are dancing. Just tons of good upskirt action (seemed to be the theme at this place) and pretty fun putting these no panty girls on your lap after buying them a drink. Some girls will let you get a nice handful of bare ass and pussy LOL. The management was pretty chill too and wouldn't squeeze too hard on drinks.
Private 69: Smaller place on Nana plazas second floor but it had some hot young girls. I found a real gem here who I did long time with. Cost for long time was 8 k total including drinks. We vibed well and she was a hot young mixed Chinese / Thai girl, so I brought her along with me for part of the vacation. Banged her at least 5 times.
Rainbow 5: this was the bar where I met that other American and he told me that Rainbow 5 is the best spot in Nana. It just might be. ST barfine 5 k total and girls were young and hot. Long time was maybe around 8 k. Most of the clientele here was Asian and that's how you know the pussy is good. It's the same at the NYC agencies haha. I was one of the few white guys in that bar.
Billboard: I brought a pretty fun young girl home from here on the first night. Honestly forget what the barfine was, I want to say it was around 5 k for ST. Quality seemed pretty good overall. But when I went back later in the trip I didn't see many girls that caught my eye. Not enough college cuties here for my taste haha.
Shark / Afterskool: Located in soi cowboy, both places were duds for me. One of them (I forget which) really fucking annoyed me because they had cute young girls out front and on the stage but you couldn't barfine any of them. I bought drinks for 2 or 3 different girls before I was told you can't barfine any girls whose number started with a 5. Well, all the hot young girls had a number that started with 5 LOL. I told the two girls I was drinking with that the place was a waste of time, then paid my tab and walked the F out. Before I left they tried to show me one of the girls you could barfine and well. Not good LOL. Hard pass.
Pattaya:
Pinup: Probably the best bar on walking street in terms of quality of girls. Many cute young college girls. However they will milk the ever living shit out of you on drinks and the barfine is high. ST here was around 7 k all in and long time was slightly over 10 k. Compare that to Bangkok where the going rate is 4-5 k for short and 7. 5 for long. They also have some bullshit rule where if you want to barfine a girl, you need to buy an additional 5 drinks, so add another 1,000 baht. I recall I barfined a girl here and bought the 5 drinks for her so we could leave. She didn't even drink them. If you want to feel out a few different ladies, you will drop an easy 1. 5 k on drinks here. They also have different prices for different girls with some being assigned "model" designation and given a higher rate.
XS: Comparable quality to Pin up. I barfined some young hotties from here. Price slightly lower than Pin up and the vibe was a bit better too. Think I took home 2 or 3 girls from this bar. They had the same BS rule about buying 5 drinks before you barfined the girl. I told MMS to her face that "you guys really milk the tourist money here in Pattaya. " She got all pissy with me over that and told me to go back to Bangkok LOL. I did still buy the 5 drinks for the girl I wanted to barfine. She downed 5 tequilas then puked when I brought her back to my hotel. Thanks MMS. Stupid fucking rule. Just greedy BS. Anyways, moving on.
Opium: Pretty good but a rung below XS and pinup in terms of quality. I brought home one girl from this place and she was hot but attitude / service wasn't great. Mid to late 20's Chinese looking chick.
LK Metro area: I went here one night and it wasn't good. Girls weren't very hot and clearly older. Many bars had girls who were topeless or fully nude, which was nice. However, the hottest and youngest girls never go topless let alone fully nude. I bailed on LK after I walked the street and popped into a few different bars. Found the quality on walking street to be much better. Even the soi 6 cheapie girls looked better than most of the LK metro ladies. I'the heard that it was a hot spot, so maybe I just had bad timing.
Soi 6: I walked this street 2-3 times and checked out a few bars I can't rember the name of, but didn't fuck any girls here. Prices were very low compared to walking street. Girls would do ST for just 1,500 baht, others were asking for closer to 4 K. Quality was lower here IMO and girls were more high volume. It's also more of an incall experience since you just take them upstairs to fuck, rather than going back to your hotel. Not really my thing and I'the rather pay a bit more for the high end stuff. Still a fun experience just to walk the street and have the girls grab at you though.
General thoughts:
I liked Bangkok more than Pattaya. There's more to do there besides just mongering and the food is better. But also girls are just as hot IMO. Prices are much fairer, as Pattaya is upcharging hard for tourists on walking street. Not only are Bangkok prices better and girls just as good, but the bars are chiller and don't milk as hard in drinks. Pattaya also has some bullshit rule where if you want to pull a girl off the stage, you need to buy her 5 drinks. Otherwise you wait for her to finish dancing, which can take 15 minutes. This wasted a lot of time IMO and I didn't like having to sit around waiting. What I started doing in Pattaya just to move shit along was I would pick two girls at a time and buy both drinks. Then if neither were good, get another two when there was a new rotation. Feel out both girls and maybe one was good enough for barfine. Bangkok bars on the other hand let you pull the girl (or girls) you wanted right off stage with no wait time. This felt more organic IMO and meant less time was wasted. If I returned to Thailand one day, idk that I'd go to Pattaya again. Probably Bangkok and Phuket.
Prices were a bit higher than I expected. Don't get me wrong, it's still cheaper than the USA But it's not quite the cheap pussy paradise people make it out to be. Maybe it was 10 years ago, but no longer. I probably paid about 7 k baht all in on average to barfine chicks for ST. That's not much cheaper than NYC girls. Plus you've got hotel and airfare to pay. You can fuck Japanese college girls in Manhattan for about $240 for 30 minutes, so at a certain point coming to Thailand for mongering doesn't make a ton of sense when you factor in time, convenience and other expenses on top of 5-7 k baht ST barfine. The Japanese girls in NY are also just higher quality overall IMO. Obviously it's an experience to come here, but just food for thought. I'm glad I came when I did because in another 10 years it really may not make much sense anymore in terms of cost.
I liked the gogo bar system, but it's not perfect. I am on the younger side and in decent shape, so was able to barfine most of the girls I wanted. I did run into a few of the so called "coyotes" who are basically the very hot and very young girls (the type I was after) who just don't do barfine and instead will milk customers for drinks. My first few days in Bangkok I loved the gogo bars and thought they were fun as shit. But towards the end of the trip I started to grow tired of the mating ritual and my luck started to run out. I found most of the best bar girls early on in my trip. I also ran into some trouble towards the end because I had barfined many girls from the same bars, and the girls there clearly starting to know me and talk about me amongst each other. While I don't really give a shit if the girls talk, I felt this made it harder to barfine new girls at a certain point. The girls and the management have remarkably good memories at these places, and they are watching you closely. One girl I bought a drink for at Private 69 remembered seeing me in there a week prior, remembered which girl I had barfined and even remembered where I had sat. I had never met this girl until I bought her drink, but apparently she knew me. No issues like this at the soapy massage places, it was a more straightforward service there. I didn't play with any freelancers during my trip but I imagine it's more straightforward with those ladies as well.
I will also say I noticed that a lot of guys seemed to go to these gogo bars to just drink and hang out. My approach was very different. I was not going to gogo bars to hang out, I was going to barfine hot young girls. I would get bored after hanging out there for more than 40 minutes. Most of the girls don't really even dance on stage so it's not that entertaining. If I didn't see girls I wanted to fuck, I would leave immediately and go to another bar. I was like a man on a mission and was trying to move fast so I could potentially fuck two girls a night. This was harder in Pattaya since they forced you to sit around and wait for the girls to get off stage. I would also change girls real fast if I bought them drinks and didn't like their vibe or their look. I do think that my overall approach rubbed the girls and the staff the wrong way on a few occasions, and maybe gogos weren't a great fit for my style. Maybe they are just used to customers who like to waste time and spend money on overpriced drinks. I don't even drink alcohol BTW, which they occasionally teased me over. Again I really was just there for the pussy LOL.
Hotels:
Bangkok I stayed at S15 and The Landmark. I would recommend both. S15 a bit cheaper with good central location in between Nana and cowboy. Landmark was much fancier and right next to nana plaza.
Pattaya I stayed at Aya boutique hotel. It was good for bringing girls back since it's so close to walking street, but the hotel wasn't very nice. It looked better online IMO. Also did a night at the Arbour hotel which was much nicer, but sorta far from the action. Can't really recommend either.
All hotels were girl friendly.
Overall a fun trip and I would potentially go back one day. Enjoyed the pussy and the food was pretty good too. Cheers guys. Sorry for the long post!
A very informal posting! Thumbs up 👍. But for a long time absent in this part of the world, things and prices change so drastically! Gogos bar girls asking rate for ST and LT was double from the last trip I made. Wow! Need to do some more home work and jag up the amount in my budget for this upcoming trip to BKK.
Anyone can share the on going rate in NEP for ST, LT and how much they charge for Bar fine? Sorry to ask, it's been a while out of that scene. Same as well for Thermae girls. Thanks.
Rainbows. 1,000 bargain.
4,000 short time.
I was actually shocked last week when I found out but it did make sense as bargaining was Down according to my eyeball observation s.
At the risk of malware I clicked the photos. 1st one was all I needed to know what's going on. Girl complexion is Dark but you could tell the Photoshop to make her look White.
Soi 6 tactic making girls look White on their Facebook.
There is a pdf of the prices (https://daisydream.club/qualif/DDPriceList.pdf; not cheap, but definitely not the most expensive sex in BKK) and a link to photos of girls who are working on any given day. It is easy to be fooled when trying to guess the age of Thai women, but to my eye, the age range is mid-20's to mid-30's. In any case, the major advantage of this particular Nuru massage place is that it is two blocks from the hotel where I stay (Bless Hotel and Residence. A clean and reasonably priced GF hotel). It doesn't have the line up of one of the big soapies, like the Poseiden Entertainment Complex, but its 5 miles closer!
With my previous experience with Nuru massage, I got the girls as exactly show in their webpage and in actual, most of them not veteran looks as Ying et al in Tulip but look passable. I believed ages between 20's to 30's is not uncommon in this industry even those gogo bar dancers. The only different from my own opinion, between massage girl vs gogo dancers is that we imagining those dancers dancing on the stage is like celebrities that we are fucking.
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