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[Goferring]

Why do you recommend buses but do not tell guys how to use them. Tell the guys how they work. Not sure you truly understand so I just did it for you from my memory of 10 years past. Read my post and you can learn something. I fail to understand why guys post information which has no information.

Sorry, my bad. I didn't realise catching a bus was a highly complex task that required step by step instructions.

G.

[WestCoast1]

I don't think you can have a predeparture clearance, we are in PH, you can't even order a big mac without the onions, without having the manager involved, and getting a surprise in your bag after you think that it's all crystal clear.

You used the Philippine government and make sense in the same sentence. Are you high on something? LOL.

Hahaha what was I thinking? And I LIVE HERE!

[Old And Ugly]

Is this the correct link?

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2945053

Regarding offloading. Is there a system where you could get an appointment with the BI in Intramuros a day or two prior to departure and get the girl similarly vetted with a departure visa, so the airport Immigration (and you) don't have to go thru this process, running the risk of ruining your travel plans? Wouldn't that make more sense?

Yes the link is correct, but just in case, here is the original post:

"Did that twice, going on cruises, from Singapore and Malaysia, with 2 different girls, because I wanted to be on those cruises, and I didn't want to go alone. You have to be with the girl, show where you're going and what you're doing there, hotels, air tickets, and most important return tickets for the girl. Second time I did it we had no return tickets, because we were getting off in Thailand, and I didn't know how long we will stay there. I had to book flights on the spot from bkk to mnl, and email the officer the reservation. Also very important is to have pictures together taken at different times, and different locations, to prove that there is a long term relationship going on. Don't lie because they are trained in catching that. The interview is not with the pass control guys, but with a different ones with piercing eye sights, and maybe you, and the girl will be separated. Have plenty of spare time, this may take few hours. After that the girl is "veted" and she can exit alone next time. Good luck!

I don't think you can have a predeparture clearance, we are in PH, you can't even order a big mac without the onions, without having the manager involved, and getting a surprise in your bag after you think that it's all crystal clear.

[Old And Ugly]

I'm the king of bus rides (and ferries), I rode them up and down, left and right for over one year, without having a clear final destination in mind, just the next point on the map. They are as fast as anything else on the PH roads. The buses are not as convenient as a taxi, but I would say they are more comfortable, and definitely much safer. The plastic covers on the seats suck, but I have a jacket with me while traveling, and I always put that under my but, to have some air circulate thru the fabric.

The biggest inconvenience is the lack of info about the routes and schedules, can do only limited advance planning. The only info you can take for granted is from the driver or the ticket guy, after you manage to find the correct bus terminal, and the right bus. For the popular routes frequented by foreigners there is some info, mostly coming from forums, not from the bus co. Website are non existent, convoluted, or outdated.

If you don't have nothing better to do, and have time on your hands, is a great place to meet girls, that otherwise would not talk to you if they were not forced by circumstances to sit next to you. I had many pleasant encounters, with successful follow ups, traveling this way.

On the other hand, I avoid the vans like the plague, they are crammed, hot, make lots of stops, and cannot stretch your legs.

[Aml3740]

Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.

I've done buses some, too. I did a few times in Mindanao for a couple of hours, and it was nice and pretty comfortable. They just stop at "stations" (that might even just be a parking lot) to pick up people, then back on the road again in five minutes. I've done on Luzon, too. Within cities in Bicol that was 2-4 hours, depending on if they stop for passengers often (one bus would randomly stop on the streets and wait for 15-20 minutes for passengers). Then southern Bicol to Manila (about 12 hours) was a lot to handle. But it was a large bus with larger seating for 1. 3 k, I think. Cheaper than flying, but not by much if you book flights a few months in advance.

The good thing is most people are friendly. And usually about 2/3 women. And if there are several telling my partner that I'm gwapo, including the young-ish ones, then I figure I'the have a decent chance if I was alone.

[PhilJoy]

In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leave many times per day so no preplanning is required.
Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.
G.

Have to agree G. And they're a cheap option, leave really frequently, albeit not on time, and they're comfortable. Apart from the plastic seat covers.

I recently posted on how to get to Sabang and suggested the bus trip as the preferred method.

On my latest trip I was even asked if I was a senior for a cheaper fare.

Rather than say "Fuck off, I'm 50" I agreed that I looked beyond my years.

And it's a great way to mingle with the locals.

Looking forward to my next bus to Batangas Port in about three weeks.

_ Phil.

[Expat American]

Is this the correct link?

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2945053

Regarding offloading. Is there a system where you could get an appointment with the BI in Intramuros a day or two prior to departure and get the girl similarly vetted with a departure visa, so the airport Immigration (and you) don't have to go thru this process, running the risk of ruining your travel plans? Wouldn't that make more sense?

You used the Philippine government and make sense in the same sentence. Are you high on something? LOL.

[WestCoast1]

Did that twice, I know exactly how it works, I wrote about it here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...053&viewfull=1#post2945053.

She will not get "offloaded", she's not going to make it that far.

Is this the correct link?

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2945053

Regarding offloading. Is there a system where you could get an appointment with the BI in Intramuros a day or two prior to departure and get the girl similarly vetted with a departure visa, so the airport Immigration (and you) don't have to go thru this process, running the risk of ruining your travel plans? Wouldn't that make more sense?

[LoveItHere69]

Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.

Why do you recommend buses but do not tell guys how to use them. Tell the guys how they work. Not sure you truly understand so I just did it for you from my memory of 10 years past. Read my post and you can learn something. I fail to understand why guys post information which has no information.

[LoveItHere69]

Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.

Buses and ferries are great if you are travelling with a backpack and carryon size suitcase. Travelling with a large suitcase becomes a pain in the ass even on a trike. Here is a good bus example. Several islands have a highway that goes in a circle around the entire island like Cebu, Bohol, Negros, Bohol, Mindoro, Samar, Panay, and more. Just stand on the side of the road going the direction you want. Wave the bus down as it is coming to you. You can be out in the middle of nowhere and it will pick you up. You do not have to be at a bus station or in the city. I know Cebu island so I will speak of it. Roughly from 6 am - 10 am the buses will pass by every 45 minutes. From 10 am - 6 pm every 20-30 minutes. 6 pm - 10 pm 60 minutes. 10 pm - 6 am every 3 hours or never (no reason to travel that time but know it is rare because it is a very rural route). There is a bus station near the southern tip but a few kilometers on the east side. You will need to change busses there to continue around the island. Beware! The Aholes will try to tell you you need to take a trike from there. Total BS. The bus driver is trying to make money for his trike buddy and a little for himself. Why is there a bus stop at the southern end but a little bit on the east side? Because there is a ferry (walking distance) that goes to Dumaguette every 2-3 hours and half a kilometer away is a ferry that goes to Siquijor. Daytime only of course and no large ocean waves so best to avoid rainy season (stormy seas). No need to pre-plan. Always seems to be last minute tickets available. Learn the buses and the ferries and you can create some easy travel experiences. But travel light.

Ten years ago I travelled this way because I wanted to explore and never knew how long I would be in a town. Cotabato less than 24 hours because Muslim town and my spider sense hit me as soon as the bus stopped there. Illigan 2 weeks because there were many street girls there which was surprising. I took ferry from Cebu to Manila. It took 24 hours. Everyone has a bed so you can sleep but it still sucked because so boring. Do not go long distances.

[Goferring]

They run that promo about twice a year. It always works that there is a purchase period of about 10-14 days, prior to the actual flight period of several months (later, after the purchase period, possibly starting months after). Its a great time to purchase and fly.

Not a replacement for flying from one end of the archipelago to the other but for closer distances, I'm now a huge fan of busses. Most would be aware that the PI's flights operates on a hub and spoke model. That's great if you are flying from one hub to another. However, it truely sucks if you have two relatively nearby cities but still have to fly via Cebu or Manila. In this case busses are cheaper and faster. They also leve many times per day so no preplanning is required.

Something to keep in mind for those wanting to see a few places.

G.

[WestCoast1]

This is for real, if your dates are flexible.

It will be displayed priced at 1800 p, that's the 1 p ticket plus taxes and fees.

P.S. That's a pic don't try to click on it, go to the website, cannot post the link because it points to my cebupacific account.

They run that promo about twice a year. It always works that there is a purchase period of about 10-14 days, prior to the actual flight period of several months (later, after the purchase period, possibly starting months after). Its a great time to purchase and fly.

I think I posted a similar item like this some months back / I am so smart. After recommending the low-cost flights, I was planning my own venture from the province to Manila. I contemplated flying out around the first of my travel month (within the sale travel dates for the discount), or the middle of the month. I pondered and pondered, wondering about my wandering. The sale period passed, and I wisely continued to consternate about the flight dates. Prices had jumped from p1, to p1500-ish. Then as the travel month got closer, even higher. It was THEN that I pounced. Had I purchased during the sale period, total RT price would have been p4000. However due to my own delay, it ended up being p8300. Worse, I was planning to fly in a long-time fav girl from her province during my time in Manila for a weekend visit, and that RT ticket cost p8300 (sale price would have been about p4000).

So smart. Sooooooo smart. Call me. . .

[Old And Ugly]

This is for real, if your dates are flexible.

It will be displayed priced at 1800 p, that's the 1 p ticket plus taxes and fees.

P.S. That's a pic don't try to click on it, go to the website, cannot post the link because it points to my cebupacific account.

[Old And Ugly]

This is travel-related for Filipinas and not directly mongering related, so please delete admin if not appropriate for this forum.

This has been touched on in some areas, but I'm seeking further clarification. I know that it is problematic for Filipinas to travel outside the country sometimes, and offloading is a real concern. Are there any guidelines for when it is appropriate for immigration to offload someone from a plane and how to best prevent it? My partner would love to visit Singapore, and I'the like to make that happen and take her there for a week next summer. If there is a round trip ticket and hotel that is paid for, would that prevent her from being offloaded? Same question for my wife, who would like to vacation in Thailand this summer for a couple of weeks with me and a friend of mine who owns land there. There would be a round trip ticket, but open itinerary for our time there, as it would depend on my friend and what she wants to show us. Will being married to me prevent her from being offloaded? It's a lot of moving parts and I don't want things to fall apart in the airport for either situation!

Did that twice, I know exactly how it works, I wrote about it here: http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...053&viewfull=1#post2945053.

She will not get "offloaded", she's not going to make it that far.

[Dg8787]

This is travel-related for Filipinas and not directly mongering related, so please delete admin if not appropriate for this forum.

This has been touched on in some areas, but I'm seeking further clarification. I know that it is problematic for Filipinas to travel outside the country sometimes, and offloading is a real concern. Are there any guidelines for when it is appropriate for immigration to offload someone from a plane and how to best prevent it? My partner would love to visit Singapore, and I'the like to make that happen and take her there for a week next summer. If there is a round trip ticket and hotel that is paid for, would that prevent her from being offloaded? Same question for my wife, who would like to vacation in Thailand this summer for a couple of weeks with me and a friend of mine who owns land there. There would be a round trip ticket, but open itinerary for our time there, as it would depend on my friend and what she wants to show us. Will being married to me prevent her from being offloaded? It's a lot of moving parts and I don't want things to fall apart in the airport for either situation!

Really no reason to offload in both situations provided you are prepared and traveling with her.

Show round trip tickets and hotel bookings for sure. Bookings in the girls names are helpful.

Have pictures of you and the girl together showing a relationship. The longer the better.

Might have to show they have some money on them or a way to pay for things.

In the event she is pulled over for an interview just answer the questions. They are making sure there is a relationship.

If they had prior travels in and out of PH the better.

I traveled to Singapore with a girl and we were interviewed in PH and by Singapore on arrival. Same questions. They are looking for trafficked girls.