Pattaya Reports

[Downandup]

99% going bareback without discussion seems totally plausible to me.

I don't see that, it's closer to 50% but that's all girls, TF girls are more likely to go BB but in bars, clubs etc it's far fewer. Still I have seen that more girls are willing to go bb than they used to, ten years ago it was very hard to find a girl that would.

So yes, YMMV. And in a week I can test this again.

[BionicMan]

Her customers are also buying drinks for themselves, so in the end the bar makes a profit.

Customer drinks contribute to pay drinks themselves, general costs, unproductive staff (cashiers, service) and the.... fixed salary of the hostesses. Only after that management / owner revenue goes in their pockets. I am not saying all runs on loss, but it's not always as shiny as it looks.

Whilst there are girls getting barfines every night, and sometime more, there are some who gets one or two a week.

Otherwise bars will be empty at all times, as the BF rotation won't be fast enough to secure a sufficient number of girls is in the bar to produce drinks.

Somebody running a bar in Samui told me that average 50% of the girls is out on barfines. The remaining 50%, most likely, won't get a barfine that night. Or just a very few.

[Mogwai]

Last night she was telling me that in 10 days she has to get 60 lady drinks and she earns 12,000 baht. Lady drinks there were 170 I think, so that only adds up to 10,200. My buddies seem to think the model of paying all these chicks a bunch of money to sell drinks is not going to last.

Her customers are also buying drinks for themselves, so in the end the bar makes a profit.

[SubCmdr]

Then I went for the first time to club excite the 500 baht BBBJCIM review hand me interested. It's funny I've lived here for going on 3 years and perviously to that stayed at pplus but just never bothered to walk in did tonight and it was worth it. One thing though they charged me 500 for the girl and 300 to the club even though we just used the couches is that right.

This is correct!

That is why the girls I go with always suggest that we wait until a room opens up upstairs (there are only two) because it is the exact same price and is much more comfortable with a bed and and shower inside the room. I do all my sessions in Club Excite in the rooms upstairs.

500 BBBJCIM; 1000ST Boom Boom; 300 Curtain or Room;.

*All numbers in THB.

And I agree about Sub. He and EverythingThai give a lot of useful information.

PRO TIP: Check out Bake and Brew between 0800 - 1700 for excellent food on the same street. Also Kings Club at the end of the same street across the street on 3rd.

You can learn a lot from a newbie. ROTFLMAO!

[Tippe]

Got in some action in Pattaya before flying back home to 'murica.

Honey 2 - Picked 155 one day and 9 next day. Both beauty knockouts, 155 was 4000 baht and 9 at 6600 baht. This place sucks if you nut too fast, only one shot and you're out the door. Neither wanted to perform DATY but 9 relented for a bit, 155 flat out said no. It was impossible to hold for any more than a minute inside them and with a very limited menu, I just gave up. You can stop the thrusting but the grip on your the doesn't stop, you're finishing whether you like it or not. I regret giving 155 a 200 baht tip when she asked for it, great personality but service was mediocre, I'm a sucker and can't draw my boundaries.

Heaven Above. Tightly packed bar and lounge. Lots of average looking girls, I only kept an eye on the 2 hours sitting there. Took one up stairs for a 3000 baht and 500 baht room. Good looking but not comparable to the ones at Honey 2. Service was the best of the days I had in Pattaya. DFK, DATY, 2 shots, and let me leave some bruises on her neck all within the hour.

All three girls are visiting from Isan.

Back to sad 'ol home. You're lucky not to get robbed at $150 for a 5 min quickie. Good service starts at $500/ HR. I'd do a $88 session with Pattaya girl #3 all day everyday.

[TravelingMan3]

So I've been branching out recently as usually I spend most of my nights in Queens club but with is now being high season and also the weekend I don't want to spend a lot of time in there as it's one of the few places on LK that actually draws a crowd and I don't like it when it's packed. So Friday night me and a buddy went to 808 around 0330 and it was mostly empty which I like as I enjoy moving around and being about to see the chicks in the club.

I did go out tonight but not for long as I wanted to be back in the room to watch the college football conference championship games. First stop Queens it was packed so didn't stay long I noticed a lot of the better ladies I normally see there haven't been around I'm going sponsor or boyfriends are in town so there taking some time away. I went to Las Vegas agogo saw no talent. Went to Top gun gogo horrible. Then I went for the first time to club excite the 500 baht BBBJCIM review hand me interested. It's funny I've lived here for going on 3 years and perviously to that stayed at pplus but just never bothered to walk in did tonight and it was worth it. One thing though they charged me 500 for the girl and 300 to the club even though we just used the couches is that right.

[SubCmdr]

16 months posted up in Pattaya. My personal experience is 50% BBFSCIP. Of that maybe 5% ask me to cum outside. I do not fight the condom. If a girl asks for it then I use it. I can fuck anything and my Big Black Dick works anytime, all the time and under all conditions.

I have found that the Princesses standing under the Palm trees to be the most strict when it comes to condom usage. Often asking for it up front. Never done one of them without it. Would not want to. Freelancers off of Thai Friend will ask for it in the initial negotiations some girls don't. In the gentleman's clubs I frequent some girls ask for it and some girls don't. Never had BBFS in a naughty massage place. Often girls that I repeat with drop the condom request on the second or third visit. I have never had a problem inside of the room. Because my dick works just fine and if they want to use a condom I have ones that I know work for me and I use it. Remember gentlemen it is just about personal preferences. Not judgements of the actions of others.

What's up with that?

[EihTooms]

I did not even know there was a thing as an 800 baht short time room in Pattaya. Most are 300 or 400.

Me and other posters have said this will happen 99% of the time in Pattaya, while others swear it needs to be negotiated in advance. I guess YMMV.

From my dozens of boots-on-the-ground observations over the years up until about 6 months ago and the YouTube videos I have seen of Soi 6. Walking Street, Beach Road, LK Metro, Massage Shops, Gentlemens Clubs and so on in Pattaya, I would say 99% is a realistic estimate of the percentage of ladies who appear to me could not afford to hesitate, resist, deny, balk, re-negotiate or flat-out refuse anything in the room with any of the stray customers who might ever take them and still earn a basic survival living. Including BBFS, BBFSCIP and probably even BB Anal Cum Inside.

Actually, in my few research missions where I mentioned BBFSCIP upfront with one those 99% ladies, they indeed agreed to it upfront. Although I never took one of them to find out what would really happen in the room. My prediction was I would have to go through so many mental gymnastics just to get it up and in with the ladies, if there was any finish at all it would not have been worth the time, energy and money.

But, as you say, YMMV.

It is that additional 1% among them who have no problem making a fine living and then some from men throwing baht at them for covered everything that one would do well to get an upfront agreement from for BBFSCIP. They are the ones who can afford to and easily will balk, resist, deny, argue and walk out with no money at all from anyone they choose unless it has been well-negotiated upfront. And possibly not even then.

To be fair, the percentage of No Discussion BBFSCIP ladies in Bangkok probably top out at about 85% with that objectively truly desirable and fuckable 15% being the ones one would be wise to negotiate with about it upfront.

[UglyAzzMan]

Going to soi6 to get some action at midnight is too late. You can still fuck some girls but most bars are closing at 1 am anyway, so you'll be rushed.

The girls start their shift at 15 or 16 o'clock, past midnight they're already tired, have been rejected too many times, had a few st already, are drunk. They don't give a fuck anymore.

Best time to go there is between 17 and 19 o'clock. Don't get offended if the one you like does not give a fuck about you, just try your luck with another one.

Seems the Korean s are taking best available girl. I see them drinking with Homely Girls aka Ugly.

[UglyAzzMan]

I was feeling a bit ragged and decided to chill and check out the clubbing scene. At 10 pm I walked over to the Walking Street 808 club. It was open but did not look busy so I stood in front of the Candy bar and listening to live bands. To my amazement they were doing hip hop tunes from my town back home. The singer amazingly sounded like Miley Cyrus to a T. And then went into a set of 2 NE1 my absolutely favorite Korean Girl Band. So amazing. Any way at 11:00 I checked out the 808 and I was the only one in there. How in the hell does this place stay open with this level of people. I was hoping to run into Fon but did not see her till much later. Looking smoking hot as usual. It was getting late at around 2:30 as such, I know I would not have done well with her. So I went back to my room and popped vitamin V freshened up and ventured out to Beach Road to see if I could have some brown sugar before leaving this magical place. After a while a Kenyan latched on to me (yes a Kenyan) and used her very pleasant demeanor to woo me over. It was 3:00 am the wrong head was in charge. She was very pretty to look at. Alas without clothes off, this becomes a box of chocolate you never know what you will get. She asked for 1 k plus room and condom. I thought about it for 3 sec and decided WTH and decided to follow through to the nearby short term. And yes all of you are correct, I think the session yesterday I was overcharged for the room. I think she really wanted 1500 and when I offered 1 k she decided to improvise. I let it slide because at the time because Jr was running the show. This current place only charged 250 B+ 20 B for the condom. Very reasonable. So in the room the top comes off and it was obvious she was member of the sag club with a small tummy that was being restrained. On the pro side she was not a clock watcher and refreshingly easy to talk to. Started with a covered BJ and the Cowboy to end the session. But the optics really were not there and so could not release. Oh well it was not a matter of her not trying as she gave a really good effort. At this point it was 4:30 am and I called it day.

Overall I have really started to like these freelancers as they seem to be really down to earth, at least most of them. But the service level is better from the bars, at a higher price level of course. For 1 K I think I got my monies worth.

Okay I have a question from you guys.

If this was your last night in this magical kingdom where would you find a 8 or 9 for an appropriate exclamation mark? Would it be a Heavens Above bar fine or somewhere else? Thank you for your help in advance.

I hate the SAG. 1,000 baht is Red flag bro. She in desperation mode.

[Mr Enternational]

Any way at 11:00 I checked out the 808 and I was the only one in there. How in the hell does this place stay open with this level of people.

That is because discos do not get started until after midnight and some even after 3 am.

It is almost 10 am now and if you walked into a Thai club on Soi Kopai you would see there are people still there with music blasting and drunk mfs outside. My girl's daughter works at a restaurant that caters to the Thai club crowd and she does not even have to be at work until 3 am. She makes 10,000 baht / month with 2 days off. And this month the boss is only giving her 1 day off with no extra pay. Digressing.

If you had walked into a gogo at 8 pm or a bar at noon you would have the same question. You have to go to places at the right hours.

[LittleBigMan]

The last time I was in Skyfall (that would be two months ago) with my friends the girl that sat down with me asked me to bar fine her and take out. I don't remember the price of the Lady Drinks (it is really chump change to me until it get up to the 20 mark). I don't remember the bar fine. But I do remember the asking price: 3000*. Get the fuck!. She was hot. Had a the body of a Latina. I wanted me some of that. But not for 3000 for short time. Fuck that shit!.

I take my club girls in Heaven Above for 2000 Short Time. Club Excite 500 BBBJCIM, 1000 Short Time; Lips Lounge 500 BBBJCIM, 1000 Short Time; Club Fate 1000 BBBJCIM; 1500 - 2000 Short Time.

*All prices in THB.

P.S. To the poster that suggested that I upgrade the electronics I use to access the internet. I plan to. I'm going to pick up a M4 Mac Mini (completely maxed out) and hook up two 32 inch Samsung Curved Monitors to it. Might help me see poorly focused and rendered pictures that are posted buy certain other member better. I am able to make this purchase because I am:

Maybe we are being discriminated or stereotype?

A group of old Asians we get good treatment at GoGs but seating can be tough in a group. I understand price vary in the month of visit to WS, every girl quoted was 4000 for ST, to individual in group it wasn't the money but the feel for the girls as to whether they will have a decent time.

I wasn't able to confirm the increase. In general 3000 to 4000 baht. Girls I know at places I normally will buy drinks to get updates were all with customers on my visit the interesting soon will be Bacarra where a girl went a year ago with friend 3000ST, 5000 LT now was asking 4000ST and a whopping increase to 7800 LT. Which went unanswered with a smile.

Skyfall group includes Farenhelt, Shark, all quoted us 4000 baht, Pinup, 79, Chicks, XS all the same. Most fun was Shark months back I went to it grand opening I found the lineup completely change from average to be the best out of many. One friend found his dream trophy 20, braces, all natural, knowing a few older ladies now waitresses brought my customary drinks another friend was taken with a waitress 51, look 35, former dancer even at her age never had a kid, married or a boyfriend, she not even a lesbian or like Toms. She found her dream BF friend paid her 2000 a day for 5 even for a waitress. We met the mamasan she had to agree to let waitress go for 5 days of course a generous tip was appreciate and drinks for her helped. To be honest I was flirting with the mamasan 51, I would have easily do her if she gave me the hint LOL.

I don't have a top phone all I did was enlarge the menu and there it appear the name of club, Vivo 9 , 4 G, 64 memory although I got a newer phone I never buy phones for myself L. Recently I got a new one for wife Vivo 40,12 G, 512 Memory I get her second hand Vivo 25.

We did hit Heaven Above twice, interesting place somewhat of a hybrid GoGo / GC I heard or reported here they had a ST room 500 baht girls 1000 baht but I never confirm although I did see an older one than caught my eye but she came off stage I saw she was taken. Most crowded place out of all places on Soi Boomerang, group we didn't get a good location to view I didn't find place to be dark one bit.

Top GC, still for me and group by far was Kinarree especially on Sat. For freelancer. You get a balance of old and young.

[Voyager1]

I was feeling a bit ragged and decided to chill and check out the clubbing scene. At 10 pm I walked over to the Walking Street 808 club. It was open but did not look busy so I stood in front of the Candy bar and listening to live bands. To my amazement they were doing hip hop tunes from my town back home. The singer amazingly sounded like Miley Cyrus to a T. And then went into a set of 2 NE1 my absolutely favorite Korean Girl Band. So amazing. Any way at 11:00 I checked out the 808 and I was the only one in there. How in the hell does this place stay open with this level of people. I was hoping to run into Fon but did not see her till much later. Looking smoking hot as usual. It was getting late at around 2:30 as such, I know I would not have done well with her. So I went back to my room and popped vitamin V freshened up and ventured out to Beach Road to see if I could have some brown sugar before leaving this magical place. After a while a Kenyan latched on to me (yes a Kenyan) and used her very pleasant demeanor to woo me over. It was 3:00 am the wrong head was in charge. She was very pretty to look at. Alas without clothes off, this becomes a box of chocolate you never know what you will get. She asked for 1 k plus room and condom. I thought about it for 3 sec and decided WTH and decided to follow through to the nearby short term. And yes all of you are correct, I think the session yesterday I was overcharged for the room. I think she really wanted 1500 and when I offered 1 k she decided to improvise. I let it slide because at the time because Jr was running the show. This current place only charged 250 B+ 20 B for the condom. Very reasonable. So in the room the top comes off and it was obvious she was member of the sag club with a small tummy that was being restrained. On the pro side she was not a clock watcher and refreshingly easy to talk to. Started with a covered BJ and the Cowboy to end the session. But the optics really were not there and so could not release. Oh well it was not a matter of her not trying as she gave a really good effort. At this point it was 4:30 am and I called it day.

Overall I have really started to like these freelancers as they seem to be really down to earth, at least most of them. But the service level is better from the bars, at a higher price level of course. For 1 K I think I got my monies worth.

Okay I have a question from you guys.

If this was your last night in this magical kingdom where would you find a 8 or 9 for an appropriate exclamation mark? Would it be a Heavens Above bar fine or somewhere else? Thank you for your help in advance.

[SubCmdr]

You can get hotel rooms for the night for 500 - 650; If you want to jump up to the next level of comfort they run 800 - 1200. Now you don't have to pay the bar fine on premises. I have only paid 300 - 500 for a short time room on premise during the last 16 months I have been posted up here. If you are hiring a Princess standing under the Palm Trees to kiss your frog. There is the Full Love Inn 250 short time room or hop in a bolt and head to the much nicer Hotel Viva. Someone also referenced a short time hotel option off of Walking Street. I'd have to do a search to see if I can find the reference again.

*All numbers in THB.

At least Sub posts reports. Whether you love him or hate him, he contributes useful info.

[TropicanGeorge]

That's the hierarchy in mongering destinations all over the world today.

I would put greens at the top of the list LOL.