Jakarta

[Werqweq]

Mate, this 'ExpatAmerican' twat is a complete fraud, as has been discussed before on here. There's zero chance he slept with anyone from SA for free, and neither will anyone else. Good you decided to cancel, the site is totally unnecessary and very expensive (by Indo standards). If you have any game at all, you can do just as well finding hot young ladies who are willing to play on the other apps we discussed. Willing women are everywhere in Jakarta, on the train, in the malls, in the 'regular' bars, online. Anyone who would resort to SA and pay what they charge is very foolish in my opinion.

SA is not my cup of tea I either I think, though I will not completely rule out something I have never tried. I do however not share your opinion of EA. I find his posts useful and believable, including his latest explenation about how the free SA date came about.

In other news: after not seeing mamasan Chacha even once in Classic, even though I've been there almost every day for a week now, I finally saw her there today. She said she'd been away for three days. I was so happy I even asked for her WhatsApp, proposed she join me and her girl for a threesome, and gave her a tip even though she did not join us. One of the girls in her flock now is BTW an unusually pretty 18 year old girl who said she's been working there two weeks. She was sweet and did her job well, but I had a rather hard time getting my will with her, and at the end tipped hour double of what I usually tip at Classic for good service (200,000, instead of 100,000) as an appreciation.

Say what you will, but Chacha is the only mamasan there who does not actively repulse me, and I actually enjoy talking with her, and even her touching me in a friendly way. It is only after having suffered the other mamasans for an entire week I fully appreciate how much more decent she is.

[Hung Man 1808]

Well I guess you must be right. If YOU (especially being WHITE) haven't got the same results, surely NOBODY can. You must be right. The ONLY option in Jakarta are Brothels and Spas. Everything else is just BS. And of course its totally impossible to get a decent threesome even at those places. Everyone who says otherwise is surely blowing smoke. Good for you for calling it out and warning other innocent mongers. Your service to the community is truly appreciated.

Damn it, it's taken years to get outsiders to only venture to Classic, Travel and Emporium and not even consider going elsewhere. Heck, we even had to wait years till Lokasari and surrounds had all the fun places die off leaving just the 'street scene'. And just about everyone has forgotten about Stadium. Ok well not everyone, but you get the point.

Keep this up and they might venture away from Mangga Besar and Pasa Baru areas.

[Hung Man 1808]

What is this Grab Feel plus plus? I have not heard of this thing before or could find much on internet?

I grabbed a feel recently, and it led to some plus plus.

Though it may have been on a Gojek.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Yeah. Classic is such great value for money, with so many girls under one roof, that one might be forgiven for thinking what is the point of even trying to meet normal girls during anything less than a month's stay here.
It's still a healthy thing to do I think, even if the date fails and you have to go to Classic at the end of the evening instead. I can't help thinking if all you meet are hookers it's probably going to affect you in a negative way after a while.

And sometimes you meet someone, who, even during a short stay, you're happy to see again. To do something else with also, other than only hopping in bed.

Exactly right. Believe it or not, one does tire of banging hookers at some point. Much rather score, usually repeatedly, with a non-pro girl who enjoys the fun as much as you do.

[Expat American]

I have to agree I see the same unrealistic posts coming from the same members such as bedding SA girls for free and threesomes that were the best they ever had to meeting non pros from dating websites. I'm a decent looking 35 year old white guy and I'm not seeing the same results. My 1st trip was great. 2nd trip wasn't I'the put that down to arriving just after Ramadan and posted that I didn't have a good trip. I had 3 somes and it was a waste of time.

What is it that Occam's razor says? That the most simplest explanation is the most likely one..in other words it didn't happen.

Well I guess you must be right. If YOU (especially being WHITE) haven't got the same results, surely NOBODY can. You must be right. The ONLY option in Jakarta are Brothels and Spas. Everything else is just BS. And of course its totally impossible to get a decent threesome even at those places. Everyone who says otherwise is surely blowing smoke. Good for you for calling it out and warning other innocent mongers. Your service to the community is truly appreciated.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

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[Expat American]

What is this Grab Feel plus plus? I have not heard of this thing before or could find much on internet?

Its like the secret menu at In and Out. You need to unlock it with the right code words.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

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[Gaijin Gigolo]

What is this Grab Feel plus plus? I have not heard of this thing before or could find much on internet?

There's no such thing. Just someone's sick idea of a joke.

[Kukooo]

Took the Grab Feel++.

What is this Grab Feel plus plus? I have not heard of this thing before or could find much on internet?

[Expat American]

Horses for courses, and since I never tried I may be wrong, but too me there's not really any difference between a Classic girl and a SA girl. To me the SA girl is just a Classic girl with her nose up in the sky, imagining she's something different or better.

I came to the conclusion I wouldn't have any interest in spending time or money on going on a pretend date with a SA girl before banging her, which is why I on second thought cancelled my SA account after a few days.

That is also the reason I was curious when somebody here (you, if I don't remember wrong) said he went to bed with one or more SA girls without paying them. I became curious how that came about. Did she at the end of the date think you were so charming that she refused the, presumably previously agreed on, amount of money?

I find a huge difference between SA girls and Classic girls. The SA girls I have been with have all been educated, professional jobs and spoke fluent English. They have been Engineers, Business Owners, Graphic Designers, Tech employees and Students, Ages ranged from 22 to 30.

I don't claim to be better looking or more charming than anyone else (although going by some posts here, some guys are probably just huge AH, not you). Seeking requires some proper screening to weed out the obvious pros. But there are a lot of decent girls looking for a variety of different things. I am not the only one with good experiences on Seeking, others have posted positive results as well, several members and I have traded notes on PM about it.

Freebies are probably not common, but they can happen. I didn't go on there looking for freebies. It just happened that one of the girls was married and just looking for fun on the side. She had her own business, own car etc and 2 m IDR would have been an insult. She was into the sex, we had awesome chemistry and it just worked out. A couple of others never mentioned money but I did give some at the end to avoid them expecting a relationship. They were surprised to get it and even disappointed because they were hoping for more of a relationship, which I don't want. Others have discussed money up front and I have paid as per the agreement. But none of the girls were time watchers, all of them enjoyed the sex and all of them wanted to meet again.

Apart from Seeking there are many other options for freebies in Jakarta. But you have to approach it differently.

If a quick non intimate fuck is enough, Classic is great. But I am bored of that scene so now look for other options, of which Jakarta has plenty. If not for you, that's cool, to each their own.

[Tiny 12]

I have to agree I see the same unrealistic posts coming from the same members such as bedding SA girls for free and threesomes that were the best they ever had to meeting non pros from dating websites. I'm a decent looking 35 year old white guy and I'm not seeing the same results. My 1st trip was great. 2nd trip wasn't I'the put that down to arriving just after Ramadan and posted that I didn't have a good trip. I had 3 somes and it was a waste of time.

What is it that Occam's razor says? That the most simplest explanation is the most likely one..in other words it didn't happen.

Correct Delbo. This is a special kind of trip report, modeled on others written by esteemed board member Offshore Swell, who has had me ROTFLMAO more than once. Hate to break it to you guys, but there is no such thing as Grab Feel.

[Werqweq]

If all you want is the shortest and cheapest route to an orgasm with a pretty 20 yo, you can't beat Classic. But if you want an evening out, dinner, music, drinks and a fuck with an English speaking girl who actually finds you interesting and attractive, then you go the non pro route. The SB route is kind of a halfway between the two. You can have the date and know for sure you are fucking her in the end. A good Seeking connection is great if you're a short term visitor and don't want to waste an evening without getting fucked. Also she won't expect an ongoing relationship (although there are exceptions to this).

Horses for courses, and since I never tried I may be wrong, but too me there's not really any difference between a Classic girl and a SA girl. To me the SA girl is just a Classic girl with her nose up in the sky, imagining she's something different or better.

I came to the conclusion I wouldn't have any interest in spending time or money on going on a pretend date with a SA girl before banging her, which is why I on second thought cancelled my SA account after a few days.

That is also the reason I was curious when somebody here (you, if I don't remember wrong) said he went to bed with one or more SA girls without paying them. I became curious how that came about. Did she at the end of the date think you were so charming that she refused the, presumably previously agreed on, amount of money?

[Werqweq]

Does anyone know if Emporium will be open on New Year's Eve and New Year's Day? I haven't been able to find any contact information?

I asked David there today, who asked around, and they were not sure yet. He said last year they were closed on the 31st, but were not sure yet about this year.

1st it should be open, but I guess you'd need to verify that too.

[Werqweq]

Great report.

Out of curiosity, has anyone succeeded in tossing the salad at Classic or for that matter any other venue in Jakarta?

Last time I was there I requested "Mandi Kucing" from a girl there, and she found the phrase hilarious, and laughed uncontrollably. Seemed like she'd never heard it before. Suffice it to say I didn't get the Mandi Kucing. Others flat out refused.

Yeah, the 20 yo girl there that I, with some persuasion, fucked in the ass the night before yesterday did that. Never happened there before though, and I'll chalk it up to the unusual great report between us, and her not being overwhelmingly repulsed by me. I suspected what may be afoot when she started to clean that area in the shower beforehand, and she subsequently did not object when I pushed her head down a bit lower than usual during the blowjob.

Tipped her an extra 300,000 for the anal. Too much? Not sure, but she was a genuinely pleasant girl so I don't care.

For what it's worth, chef-girl (regular date girl) also did that yesterday, but I'm not sure if that was because it was night and I had turned off the light to sleep, and she was both quite tired and also could not see what she was doing. or something else. Anyhow, I wanted to finish in her mouth that time, and as she complained after a few minutes she was tired of the blowjob (well, it had been a tiresome day for her, and it was late), I proceeded to move up and put my balls in her mouth, and then move further up while giving myself a handjob and her licking my ass, before ending up nutting in her mouth and she swallowing. I don't know why she still had not bothered to look up what "vasectomy" means, as she expressed surprise when I did not ejaculate empty air into her mouth ("you can do??").
I was too tired myself to wanting to try and explain much about it, so just suggested she google it tomorrow if she really wants to know.