Pattaya Reports

[EihTooms]

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Maybe Rocko20 cant but I can. You are wrong Philip Marlow. Please read below.

You are wrong. Prostitution is clearly illegal as well as profiting from it. My colleagues at Siam legal summarize it very nicely here. If you don't know, don't say. The reason you think it's legal is because it is not enforced in many situations, but the laws are clear. Prostitution is illegal in Pattaya and everywhere in Thailand.

Please read.

Although it's a misconception that prostitution is legalized in Thailand due to popular perception and how openly it is promoted, Thai laws are very much against it. Neither prostitution nor solicitation is legal in Thailand, and there are serious consequences for taking part in it. Regardless of how relaxed the laws may seem to outsiders, it is very much still possible to be fined or prosecuted for soliciting prostitution in Thailand, so it is not recommended for anyone to get involved in the sex industry.

Laws Concerning Prostitution.

There are three primary acts that make prostitution illegal in Thailand:

1. The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act:

This Act prohibits both male and female prostitution in public places and brothels and classifies prostitution as illegal. Anyone who is caught offering sexual services will be fined a minimum of 1,000 THB. Penalties for those supervising them, such as brothel owners, are higher, as this Act is not focused on punishing the sex workers themselves.

2. The Penal Code Amendment Act:

Section 286 of the Penal Code Amendment Act states that anyone over the age of 16 who subsists on the earnings of a prostitute will be imprisoned for 7 to 20 years and fined from 14,000 to 40,000 THB. Convicted offenders can even be imprisoned for life.

This does not apply to those who rely on financial support from a prostitute who is required by law or morality to provide it.

3. The Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act:

This Act criminalizes all forms of human trafficking, including sex trafficking which involves the recruitment, transfer, and exploitation of individuals for the purpose of forced prostitution. The Act also imposes severe penalties on those who assist and patronize the traffickers.

Fines and Penalties.

To demonstrate what is prohibited and what is not and the consequences that come from infractions, below are two of the many laws stated in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act:

Section 6: Anyone who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution will be imprisoned for up to 1 month and fined no more than 1,000 THB. Penalties increase after repeated offenses, and deportation and blacklisting from Thailand are also possible. Furthermore, should the solicitation violate other laws and codes, as detailed below, the penalties can accumulate.

Section 8: Anyone who has sexual intercourse with or acts otherwise against a person over the age of 15 but under 18 in a prostitution establishment, with or without their consent, will be imprisoned for up to 3 years and fined between 20,000 to 60,000 THB. However, if it's sexual intercourse with a minor (under the age of 15), the offender will be imprisoned for 2 to 6 years and fined between 40,000 to 120,000 THB.

Below are a few of the laws taken from the Penal Code:

Section 277: Sexual intercourse with a minor (under the age of 15) who is neither the wife nor the husband will result in imprisonment for 4 to 20 years.

Section 279: Anyone who commits an act of indecency to a minor (under the age of 15) will be imprisoned for up to 10 years and face a fine of 20,000 THB. If the act of indecency was committed through threat, violence, or fraud, the offender will be imprisoned for up to 15 years and fined no more than 30,000 THB.

Section 280: Anyone who commits an act of indecency to a minor (under the age of 15) and causes bodily harm will be imprisoned for 5 to 20 years and fined between 10,000 to 40,000 THB. If this results in the death of the minor, the offender will receive a death sentence or lifetime imprisonment.

Section 282: Anyone who procures, seduces, or takes a male or female in order to gratify the sexual desire of a third party without their consent will be imprisoned for up to 10 years and fined up to 2,000 to 20,000 THB. If that person is over the age of 15 but under 18, then the offender will be imprisoned for 3 to 15 years and fined between 6,000 to 30,000 THB.

Pay close attention to number 1 and section 6 and section 8.

Now this is the Pattaya section so I hope this puts this issue to rest and we can move on.

You have posted this before, several of us have read it, all of it, and we have yet to see the part that says the act of exchanging sex for money between or among consenting adults is illegal. And you have yet to highlight or quote the specific passage that states the act of exchanging sex for money between or among consenting adults is illegal. We're not talking about this idea of publicly and openly soliciting it, forcing someone into doing it or procuring someone to do it for somene else. Or anyone other than consenting adults.

We're talking about consenting adults discretely discussing it, deciding to do it and going to a private room to do it.

That specific "Act of Prostitution" is simply not addressed in your list. Yet, it would be blissfully simple to find and post the words that say so.

Here is another place where those clear and simple words are never stated. You'll want to check out every section and word in Title IX:

Criminal Law in Thailand

https://www.thailandlawonline.com/ta...and-penal-code

Again, if you find a statement anywhere in Title IX or elsewhere in that link that clearly states that the specific act of exchanging sex for money between or among consenting adults is illegal, please cite that section number and quote it exactly.

The same as in the list you posted, I have carefully read Title IX several times by now and the statement I am looking for is simply not there.

In fact, the entirety of The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act, The Penal Code Amendment Act and The Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act as shown in your list would scarcely be needed if elsewhere in your list, the Thai Penal Code or in the Criminal Law of Thailand link it simply said "Exchanging Sex For Money Is Illegal In Thailand. " But it doesn't.

There would then be no need to clarify or parse words about "public places and brothels. " Why no mention of hotel rooms, apartments, condos and houses? How about using the word "anywhere"?

The bit about anyone "subsisting on the earnings of a prostitute" or anything about "the recruitment, transfer, and exploitation of individuals for the purpose of forced prostitution" are addendum to the idea that have been in The Thai Penal Code for years. But none of that makes an otherwise unmentioned act of prostitution between or among consenting adults more illegal.

[PassionSR]

Maybe Rocko20 cant but I can. You are wrong Philip Marlow. Please read below.

You are wrong. Prostitution is clearly illegal as well as profiting from it. My colleagues at Siam legal summarize it very nicely here. If you don't know, don't say. The reason you think it's legal is because it is not enforced in many situations, but the laws are clear. Prostitution is illegal in Pattaya and everywhere in Thailand.

Please read.

Nope, you are wrong. You can twist it all you want, but you're simply wrong.

There are three primary acts that make prostitution illegal in Thailand:

1. The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act:

This Act prohibits both male and female prostitution in public places and brothels and classifies prostitution as illegal. Anyone who is caught offering sexual services will be fined a minimum of 1,000 THB. Penalties for those supervising them, such as brothel owners, are higher, as this Act is not focused on punishing the sex workers themselves.

This is exactly the point. Nothing in this act says prostitution is illegal. It says engaging in prostitution PUBLICLY is illegal. Hence why gathering spots get swept every now and then. You are completely free to pay for sexual services and sell them. Facilitating and profiting from someone else's prostitution it is illegal as I said, hence brothels aren't allowed to exist and bars use loopholes.

All the other citations you linked in fact prove and reinforce this point. Not sure why you are including citations that are clearly meant at the AGE being the factor rather than the prostitution.

Now this is the Pattaya section so I hope this puts this issue to rest and we can move on.

Well yes, you are wrong and your reading comprehension is severely lacking. So try to read some more and you'll understand better that prostition is not illegal at all. Only aspects of disturbing public order and profiting from prostitutes are. As well as (obviously) engaging with people who haven't reached the appropriate age.

[EverythingThai]

I have lived here for 15 years so I will help you guys to understand. Chinese new year is on the official Thailand holiday calendar. However, it is not a government holiday and businesses can choose to provide it or not. They are obligated to provide 13 public holidays per year. Some business owners will give this off for their staff. Especially if the owner of the Comapny is of Chinese descent. Thais love to celebrate Chinese new year in a similar fashion as they celebrate Christmas. It's just an excuse to party for them. Chinese Thais will celebrate it a little more conventionally, but more often than not, it's not treated as a big holiday like it is in China and Hong Kong.

I will provide some Pattaya reports soon as I will be going there soon. In about 3 weeks or so. Now I'm still in Bangkok.

[EverythingThai]

Prostitution is also illegal in Thailand, go figure.

You are correct.

That is why when the police come for the beach road chicks they get them for loitering, not prostitution. Also, if you do not pay a chick she can go to the police station and tell them that you owe her money for boom boom.

You are wrong Mr. E. The police choose not to enforce the law on prostitution as loitering is easier to prove with less paperwork and its easier to get a bribe.

Can you cite anything that supports that statement?

Maybe Rocko20 cant but I can. You are wrong Philip Marlow. Please read below.

No, it isn't. Actively profiting from someone else's prostitution is illegal, that's why there's so many loopholes. But the act of buying / selling sex itself is totally legal.

You are wrong. Prostitution is clearly illegal as well as profiting from it. My colleagues at Siam legal summarize it very nicely here. If you don't know, don't say. The reason you think it's legal is because it is not enforced in many situations, but the laws are clear. Prostitution is illegal in Pattaya and everywhere in Thailand.

Please read.

Although it's a misconception that prostitution is legalized in Thailand due to popular perception and how openly it is promoted, Thai laws are very much against it. Neither prostitution nor solicitation is legal in Thailand, and there are serious consequences for taking part in it. Regardless of how relaxed the laws may seem to outsiders, it is very much still possible to be fined or prosecuted for soliciting prostitution in Thailand, so it is not recommended for anyone to get involved in the sex industry.

Laws Concerning Prostitution.

There are three primary acts that make prostitution illegal in Thailand:

1. The Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act:

This Act prohibits both male and female prostitution in public places and brothels and classifies prostitution as illegal. Anyone who is caught offering sexual services will be fined a minimum of 1,000 THB. Penalties for those supervising them, such as brothel owners, are higher, as this Act is not focused on punishing the sex workers themselves.

2. The Penal Code Amendment Act:

Section 286 of the Penal Code Amendment Act states that anyone over the age of 16 who subsists on the earnings of a prostitute will be imprisoned for 7 to 20 years and fined from 14,000 to 40,000 THB. Convicted offenders can even be imprisoned for life.

This does not apply to those who rely on financial support from a prostitute who is required by law or morality to provide it.

3. The Anti-Trafficking in Persons Act:

This Act criminalizes all forms of human trafficking, including sex trafficking which involves the recruitment, transfer, and exploitation of individuals for the purpose of forced prostitution. The Act also imposes severe penalties on those who assist and patronize the traffickers.

Fines and Penalties.

To demonstrate what is prohibited and what is not and the consequences that come from infractions, below are two of the many laws stated in the Prevention and Suppression of Prostitution Act:

Section 6: Anyone who associates with another person in a prostitution establishment for the purpose of prostitution will be imprisoned for up to 1 month and fined no more than 1,000 THB. Penalties increase after repeated offenses, and deportation and blacklisting from Thailand are also possible. Furthermore, should the solicitation violate other laws and codes, as detailed below, the penalties can accumulate.

Section 8: Anyone who has sexual intercourse with or acts otherwise against a person over the age of 15 but under 18 in a prostitution establishment, with or without their consent, will be imprisoned for up to 3 years and fined between 20,000 to 60,000 THB. However, if it's sexual intercourse with a minor (under the age of 15), the offender will be imprisoned for 2 to 6 years and fined between 40,000 to 120,000 THB.

Below are a few of the laws taken from the Penal Code:

Section 277: Sexual intercourse with a minor (under the age of 15) who is neither the wife nor the husband will result in imprisonment for 4 to 20 years.

Section 279: Anyone who commits an act of indecency to a minor (under the age of 15) will be imprisoned for up to 10 years and face a fine of 20,000 THB. If the act of indecency was committed through threat, violence, or fraud, the offender will be imprisoned for up to 15 years and fined no more than 30,000 THB.

Section 280: Anyone who commits an act of indecency to a minor (under the age of 15) and causes bodily harm will be imprisoned for 5 to 20 years and fined between 10,000 to 40,000 THB. If this results in the death of the minor, the offender will receive a death sentence or lifetime imprisonment.

Section 282: Anyone who procures, seduces, or takes a male or female in order to gratify the sexual desire of a third party without their consent will be imprisoned for up to 10 years and fined up to 2,000 to 20,000 THB. If that person is over the age of 15 but under 18, then the offender will be imprisoned for 3 to 15 years and fined between 6,000 to 30,000 THB.

Pay close attention to number 1 and section 6 and section 8.

Now this is the Pattaya section so I hope this puts this issue to rest and we can move on.


Her is a link to the full suppression act: https://www.dwf.go.th/uploads/Downloads/2b8e484a-1e24-4a1f-bd1e-cda334334b77Prevention%20and%20Suppression%20of%20Prostitution%20Act%20BE%202539.pdf

There are more details in here.

[Explorer8939]

Look you can re do whatever I'm being kind to note you are clueless. I have a Thai family my association daily is with all Thais. The Chinese here living like myself DONOT celebrate CNY.

It is all THAiS that are doing the celebrating that is the the business as usual.
Count yourself lucky that your being called clueless. One stupid MF!

Bottom line: Chinese New Year has no impact on mongering.

[Mr Enternational]

No, it isn't. Actively profiting from someone else's prostitution is illegal, that's why there's so many loopholes. But the act of buying / selling sex itself is totally legal.

That is why when the police come for the beach road chicks they get them for loitering, not prostitution. Also, if you do not pay a chick she can go to the police station and tell them that you owe her money for boom boom.

[LittleBigMan]

Let me rephrase then, nobody in Pattaya other than the Chinese gives one damn about CNY. Business as usual. And eff you for call me clueless.

Look you can re do whatever I'm being kind to note you are clueless. I have a Thai family my association daily is with all Thais. The Chinese here living like myself DONOT celebrate CNY.

It is all THAiS that are doing the celebrating that is the the business as usual.
Count yourself lucky that your being called clueless. One stupid MF!

[PassionSR]

Prostitution is also illegal in Thailand, go figure.

No, it isn't. Actively profiting from someone else's prostitution is illegal, that's why there's so many loopholes. But the act of buying / selling sex itself is totally legal.

Why do you think many WGs prefer East Asians? Because East Asians spend money.

Because they fit the beauty standard far better, because they are culturally way more popular at the moment and because they are far less demanding and aggressive in the bedroom. They're fine with a few minutes of sex a lot of the time and don't watch the clock. Most westerners want to get every last bit of value out of the experience and make the women suck their dick or bend over for lengthy periods of time. Westerners being penny pinchers plays somewhat of a part, but it's a bit of an exaggeration to attribute all of that to someone buying a drink more at the bar.

[UglyAzzMan]

Lala Land.

Fresh off the Farm small dark skin girl. Nice Tiddies.

Kind of to my liking but not quite there. Rich Korean s took her.

I get the girls like drinks but to get full salary don't they have to Boom Boom a few times every 10 day contract.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Then you are clueless!

I've been here 20 years I'm Chinese American born and raised in West coast consider the Largest at one time maybe still outside of HongKong. Aside from the parade I still go back yearly around that time you go in stores in Chinatown it be rare you even see a New Year T-shirt to buy.

In Pattaya, I was shock it is celebrated more by Thais than the Chinese even before they started to come. Local market selling chicken, pork, duck, on the eve of Chinese New Year, my Thai wife kids get up at 6 am set up tradition tables with food, whisky, religious statues, put ribbons flowers on cars motorbike light incense candle far greater than my mom ever did who was from Canton! Top it off with string of fire works. Through our neighborhood along with abundant of New Year T-shirts design of choice.

You can go right now to Big see Xtra supermarket upstairs clothing department and it isn't even Christmas yet for sale.

You can go north of Pattaya, Naklua seafood market consider to be Chinatown and see it for yourself.

First year here I was shocked because I though clueless like you. LOL.

Let me rephrase then, nobody in Pattaya other than the Chinese gives one damn about CNY. Business as usual. And eff you for call me clueless.

[SubCmdr]

1,000-1,200. By definition are bottom of Barrel.

By whos definition?

Many of you have formed opinions of what others do solely by what they write. But they have never backed up their opinions with a picture of an actual prostitute they have hired or an actual report that provided the following information:

1. Where you hired your prostitute?

2. How much you paid for your prostitute?

3.The social/sexual services that you prostitute provided you?

That is what I call a Pattaya Report! There are many posts that do not provide the most basic of information on having sex with girls in Pattaya.

This is a Pattaya Report:

The majority of prostitutes freelance prostitutes that I hire in Pattaya are asking for 1000 - 2000 THB for short time. The are providing BBBJ, Boom Boom (both CFS and BBFS) often with BBBJCIM finish. At most the upcharge for BBFS is 500.

*All prices in THB.

[Philip Marlow]

Prostitution is also illegal in Thailand, go figure.

Can you cite anything that supports that statement?

[CaliGuy33]

I think you completely missed my point. Why would anyone want to waste time going from bar to bar on Soi 6 to find a girl to fuck without buying drinks, not even 1? These are bars and they are there to make money selling drinks. I can understand one who goes into soi 6 to have fun drinking a little bit, buys a few drinks, not 40, and then takes the girl to the ST room upstairs in the bar. However, if one's intention is to find a girl without drinking, why waste time on a street full of bars that are there to sell drinks. "Bar"" Hello,

For the guys that don't want to buy lady drinks and don't want to drink, there are freelancers and massage shops. Why waste time trolling Soi 6 for girls willing to ST with no drinks, not even 1. Can you help me to understand the logic in this? If I am on holiday, why would I want to waste time doing this? I would want to do the easy thing to maximize my time. Just find freelancers and massage girls. Then no need to mention the ugly word lady drink. Right?


Some of us enjoy drinking and having fun with the girls. If thats not your thing, so be it. All this price stuff is also blown so far out of proportion and discussed to death. When in Pattaya, do what the fuck you want and use the info on the forum as a guide on how much to pay. Sometimes you
may pay a little more or a little less. It will all even out in the end. Overthinking pricing while in Pattaya on vacation can ruin your holiday. You may pass up something you will regret later. On the other hand, if you are willing to fuck anything with a pussy whether or not she is attractive to you or not, crack on then its your money and your dick.



Now on your point about Soi 6 bars just being brothels and not bars. If that were true and the bars could make more money just selling sex in the ST rooms, let me ask you this? Why are all the salaries on Soi 6 based on reaching a drink quota? Why are they even selling drinks? Because its their business model. I for one am not going to go to Soi 6 if I dont want to drink and have fun. I would much rather call a freelancer over to my condo or go to a massage shop. To each their own.

I and countless others have frequented the 6 hundreds of times and never once bought a drink. You can walk down the street, spot one you like, chat with her for a minute in front of the bar and go up for ST.

You insisting on guys buying drinks tells me you're affiliated with bars and have an angle you're taking here.

As your BFF says, "My Dick, My Money My Time. ".

[Rocko20]

Just found out from an OF lady who is based out of Pattaya that one of her friends was arrested for producing porn. Seems that making porn films is illegal in Thailand. My associate has been in a few films with her and is needles to say running a little scared. Apparently OF is also illegal there in Thailand, go figure

Thai internet bans porn sites (as do many other Asian countries), so why would porn be legal to produce? Even in South Korea producing porn is illegal, and they actually have 100% legal red light districts and prostitution there. Japan is one of the few Asian countries where you can legally produce porn. All those "creampie Thai" and thai girls wild content sites are obviously illegal and the owner was previously arrested before he bribed his way out of it.

Prostitution is also illegal in Thailand, go figure.

Easily answered. You see them as bars while I see them as hoarhouses. I will go there to fuck and you will go there to drink. To me drinking is not fun, but fucking around and talking shit with hookers is. We can both be right and get what we are individually looking for out of the same place.

A bar is a business. If no one ever bought drinks, there would be no bar because it would be bankrupt. Same for clubs, discos, etc.

I dont buy a bar drink or lady drink to talk shit or interview a WG, I buy a drink because it keeps the place open, and this place has allowed me to hunt for WGs instead of walking up and down beach road.

Additionally, many WGs prefer a barfine only after several lady drinks. Without those drinks, they either beg for the drink anyway, refuse the bar fine, or they provide bad service when you do get them to your place so they can rush back to work to get more lady drinks.

Why do you think many WGs prefer East Asians? Because East Asians spend money.

Me and my buddy were in 808 last week. He asked me if all the chicks in there were hookers. I said pretty much. Now some guys may be going into that disco to dance, but me, I am going in there to find hookers. And I do not need to buy a bunch of drinks to do it. The same as Soi 6.

You dont need to buy a drink, but plenty of people DO buy drinks which is why 808 (and Soi 6) is still in business thriving. You should be thanking those people or else there is no 808 or Soi 6 where you can hunt for hookers.

Im sure as hell never going to buy a bottle or book a VIP table at 808 (or any disco in Pattaya for that matter) but I'm grateful for those who do.

[Rocko20]

Quick update:

Beach road:

Went there last night, did not see anything I wanted except for 1 chick who appeared to have large natural boobs. She wanted 1500ST however she said "condom everything" including the blowjob so I declined.

WS Gogo:

Decided to try something different besides palace and went gogo-bar hopping in no particular order:

1. Sharks. Saw a few stunners here and a plan to barfine one of them tomorrow. Decent place and lineup.

2. Iron. Still alive a kicking, absolutely will be coming back for 1 stunner I saw and its amazing this place is even still in business because its never ever packed.

3. Sensation. Dead. A tragedy and shell of its former self.

4. Skyfall. Dead. Empy with no lineup.

5. Fahrenheit. Dead. Not sure how this place has managed to stay open.

6. Chic. Amazing environment and atmosphere, massive, this is the way a club should look but I didn't like anyone in their lineup.

7. Peppermint. Dead. Not sure how this place is still open.

8. Opium. Dead. But I did find a former barfine of mine who used to work at XS.

9. XS. Busy as usual, one of the best go-gos on WS but nothing that I like.

10. Pinup. Another great place, massive lineup, but nothing I like.

11. Sapphire. Dead, a sad shell of its former shell. This place used to be awesome.

12.79 - my guilty pleasure. Only 1 decent WG I like from there.

13. Palace. My personal favorite but still only 2-3 chick I have, and will ever, barfine from there.

There were many others I could've went to but it wasn't worth it. XS, Pinup, and Palace should give you everything you need if you're into WS go-gos.

Discos:

Lucifer. Too dark too loud, boring.

808 - not really worth it, just fat ugly tatted up thai girls who like hip hop. I did find 2 decent freelancers but that was only after endlessly going.

Ibar / Insomnia. A shell of its former self, I can't find a damn thing here.

Observations:

A lot of discos and beach road freelancers are demanding covered blowjobs. Welp, maybe that works for others but it doesn't work for me. Luckily WS go-go bar girls are still giving bareback blowjobs without question.

I found another decent short time hourly hotel of WS called "Royal BJ hotel" for those looking for a decent ST place that isn't the disgusting one across from Baccara (Walking Street Guest House).