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  1. #19514
    Quote Originally Posted by Sushruth  [View Original Post]
    SA is not a country in which brothels, escorts and spas are banned.

    It's just an app / website anyone can sign up. So, a girl who works in a brothel can also sign up and there is no subscription charges for girls unlike for men.

    So, the girls works in brothel during the day and comes to you as a SA date in the evening or she meeting multiple sugar daddies, one in the morning, one in the after and one in the evening.

    So, how do you really know that she does this occasionally? If she is sleeping with you for money what stops her seeing many in a day. She gets old sooner or later, so, she wants make as much as she could while she could.
    Its possible but in my experience that is not the case. I spent last night with a middle manager from the Jakarta branch of an international company who is a graduate of a university in America. I am an American college graduate and it would be impossible for her to bluff me on that. Early in the week I went to classic where the girl I went to the room with told me she was working there because she got screwed out 14 mil and had to pay off her debt. She says her cut from each session is 100,000 rupiah and that she was recruited to Classic from some kampung in Sumatra by a tik-tok ad. I figured something was up because she gave a blow job like she had only just learned what a blow job is from a tik-tok video day before which is almost the actual case. Between the SA woman and the girl from Classic getting 100.000 a session guess which one do you think fucked the shit out of me off and on for 14 hours straight. Well, OK, I will spill the beans. It wasn't the sad case from Classic. Another SA paramour is a middle manager from a Indonesian company that I met for the first time in person at her lunch hour. I dropped her off at her office building after our first getting to know you lunch meeting. She dresses and acts like a sexy librarian with the body of Jessica Rabbit. This one requested I get an STD test after showing me hers "so we won't have to worry about anything when we have bareback anal sex". During the month of road testing SA I have met enough women from there to get a sense of the range. Some have been better than others. But all of them have consistently been much much hotter than any of the woman I have been with at classic and its variants. There are a lot of reasons for why this might be which I will save for the inevitable rebuttal. So far the mix of SA girls I have encountered have mostly been professional woman in their mid to late 20's and a few early 20's University students. From this group the worst SA sex I have encountered is better than best sex I have had at classic, emporium, etc.

    For my budget SA is not something I can afford to do as frequently as classic or whatever. But so far the quality from SA is high enough where I will probably partake a least a few times a month. The way I look at it is yes SA ladies are more expensive. But they quality is much much better. There is absolutely no way I could get women this hot or this enthusiastic for the same price back home.

    I think your speculation about undercover brothel workers is more likely to be true on tinder, which I also road tested over the summer. Without getting into the "does tinder privilege white dudes" argument I would say at least 2/3 of the woman I met through Tinder at some point asked for money. Some were up front some waited. A number of them were also upfront that their "day jobs" were as "therapists". Most of them were generally less attractive than the ladys from classic.

  2. #19513
    Quote Originally Posted by GaijinGigolo  [View Original Post]
    Interesting place, but I would certainly not recommend anyone, especially a foreigner, and more especially a WHITE foreigner, ever go to such a place. Why even consider it when you can get whatever kind of girl you want at someplace like Classic for a just a few dollars more.
    I will go there. The thrill is just as fun as the sex.

  3. #19512
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarer  [View Original Post]
    Genuine Question About Immigration.

    I've been to Jakarta three times so far. Once as a 2 day stopover on my way to Bali, and twice exclusively for mongering. Each time, when the immigration officer asked if I was there for business or tourism, I said tourism. Their response was always neutral, but it made me feel a bit awkward.

    I admit it doesn't seem like the kind of place where most tourists would spend 10 days, let alone visit 2 or 3 times a year. I've thought about saying I'm visiting places like Yogyakarta or Bali after a few nights in Jakarta, but officers always ask for return flight tickets and hotel bookings. I know it's possible to show refundable bookings to back this up, but is that really necessary? Or am I just overthinking this?

    What do you usually say during your visits? Would love to hear your experiences and advice!
    I just go through the automated lanes. Machine doesn't ask me anything at all.

  4. #19511
    Dude, this literally made me LOL. You feel shy about talking to immigration because you think they're onto your game? Hate to imagine what you must be like with the hookers, LOL.

    Why do you even imagine the immigration officer cares so much about the 200th person of the day's reason for touring the country?

    Quote Originally Posted by Scarer  [View Original Post]
    Genuine Question About Immigration.

    I've been to Jakarta three times so far. Once as a 2 day stopover on my way to Bali, and twice exclusively for mongering. Each time, when the immigration officer asked if I was there for business or tourism, I said tourism. Their response was always neutral, but it made me feel a bit awkward.

    I admit it doesn't seem like the kind of place where most tourists would spend 10 days, let alone visit 2 or 3 times a year. I've thought about saying I'm visiting places like Yogyakarta or Bali after a few nights in Jakarta, but officers always ask for return flight tickets and hotel bookings. I know it's possible to show refundable bookings to back this up, but is that really necessary? Or am I just overthinking this?

    What do you usually say during your visits? Would love to hear your experiences and advice!

  5. #19510
    Quote Originally Posted by Scarer  [View Original Post]
    Genuine Question About Immigration.

    I've been to Jakarta three times so far. Once as a 2 day stopover on my way to Bali, and twice exclusively for mongering. Each time, when the immigration officer asked if I was there for business or tourism, I said tourism. Their response was always neutral, but it made me feel a bit awkward.

    I admit it doesn't seem like the kind of place where most tourists would spend 10 days, let alone visit 2 or 3 times a year. I've thought about saying I'm visiting places like Yogyakarta or Bali after a few nights in Jakarta, but officers always ask for return flight tickets and hotel bookings. I know it's possible to show refundable bookings to back this up, but is that really necessary? Or am I just overthinking this?

    What do you usually say during your visits? Would love to hear your experiences and advice!
    You are way over thinking this.

    I just said I was here for vacation and that's all the dude cared about. That's all I ever say to any immigration officer anywhere I go. It is technically true anyways, we are all here on vacation we just also fuck and get sucked while on vacation.

    Gabacho.

  6. #19509
    Quote Originally Posted by United1  [View Original Post]
    I am hearing that Bandung has all the pretty college kids. And more normal gals vs. Rich kids schools in the Jakarta.

    Go there, take fast train. Be nice to girls or try a dating app. Good lucks.
    I have Bandung on my itinerary for May / Jun.

    My new Javanese girlfriend and I are going up there for a side trip.

  7. #19508

    What do you all tell the Immigration Officer?

    Genuine Question About Immigration.

    I've been to Jakarta three times so far. Once as a 2 day stopover on my way to Bali, and twice exclusively for mongering. Each time, when the immigration officer asked if I was there for business or tourism, I said tourism. Their response was always neutral, but it made me feel a bit awkward.

    I admit it doesn't seem like the kind of place where most tourists would spend 10 days, let alone visit 2 or 3 times a year. I've thought about saying I'm visiting places like Yogyakarta or Bali after a few nights in Jakarta, but officers always ask for return flight tickets and hotel bookings. I know it's possible to show refundable bookings to back this up, but is that really necessary? Or am I just overthinking this?

    What do you usually say during your visits? Would love to hear your experiences and advice!

  8. #19507
    I am hearing that Bandung has all the pretty college kids. And more normal gals vs. Rich kids schools in the Jakarta.

    Go there, take fast train. Be nice to girls or try a dating app. Good lucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperLove  [View Original Post]
    Can anyone suggest which city (top 2) in Indonesia has the best looking girls and most open minded as well. Which city is more university / student centric.

    Thanks.

  9. #19506
    Wowza. What a videos! Looks very dangerous and interesting at same time.

    Must only be for locals.

    Thank for sharing.

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhI5noE8FY

    This is a bunch of little bars with some girls sitting outside waiting for customers to pass by. I am sure there are some more girls inside. Never been here but know where it is. Far away and not so easy to get to. Being a white guy walking to get there everyone will know why I am there which is super awkward and being alone in such a secluded location where anything can happen is a no-no for me. Also, any money saved will be spent on transportation getting there and back to my hotel. I assume most the girls will not be interested in me like the rail road tracks. I assume foreign Asian guys will have a higher success rate but not sure how much better. Maybe next year I will check it out if I get bored and find a wingman for this location.

  10. #19505

    Yeah, but

    Quote Originally Posted by Bacchuss  [View Original Post]
    Never go here but its seam to be the infamous rail tracks.

    I am not sure about the quality a girls, but the old days atmosphere is definitely present.
    Interesting place, but I would certainly not recommend anyone, especially a foreigner, and more especially a WHITE foreigner, ever go to such a place. Why even consider it when you can get whatever kind of girl you want at someplace like Classic for a just a few dollars more.

  11. #19504
    Why don't you find something original, instead of plagiarizing, bro?

    Quote Originally Posted by LoveItHere69  [View Original Post]
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lhI5noE8FY

    This is a bunch of little bars with some girls sitting outside waiting for customers to pass by. I am sure there are some more girls inside. Never been here but know where it is. Far away and not so easy to get to. Being a white guy walking to get there everyone will know why I am there which is super awkward and being alone in such a secluded location where anything can happen is a no-no for me. Also, any money saved will be spent on transportation getting there and back to my hotel. I assume most the girls will not be interested in me like the rail road tracks. I assume foreign Asian guys will have a higher success rate but not sure how much better. Maybe next year I will check it out if I get bored and find a wingman for this location.
    This was already posted a day earlier by GG:

    Quote Originally Posted by GaijinGigolo  [View Original Post]
    Videos from this month. No idea exactly where this is. Walking around with a flashlight shining it in the girls' faces is a good way to get stabbed though.

    https://www.youtube.com/@cryptcat-q7z

  12. #19503
    Quote Originally Posted by GaijinGigolo  [View Original Post]
    Videos from this month. No idea exactly where this is. Walking around with a flashlight shining it in the girls' faces is a good way to get stabbed though.

    https://www.youtube.com/@cryptcat-q7z
    Excelent find brother. I wish I had time to go check it out. It looks like its an hour away in Bekasi Jawa Barat which is a suburb satelite City of Jakarta. I fucked a girl who is from Bekasi who was a friend of my new civvy girl I've been seeing (whom I haven't posted about yet, but not sure if I will due to certain members here).

    Anyways looks like exactly the kind of place that I was originally looking for. Kind of like a Botero Plaza of Indonesia if you will. I will most likely check it out on my return trip in May 2025 as I simply don't have the time left to do it during this trip.

    Maybe you can check it out in January and report on your findings GG?

    -Gabacho.

  13. #19502
    Indeed, Kazeu, you raise a valid point. I would like to add a few additional observations:

    There is also a significant influence from Western culture in this phenomenon. The prevailing mindset is that nothing is truly free, and if an opportunity seems too good to be true, it probably is.

    Furthermore, the majority of punters from Southeast Asia are accustomed to the concept of peer-to-peer (P4 P) transactions.

    It is highly probable that the success of Jakarta Sexpedition, Tinder, or even the relatively new sensation SB! Can be attributed to the fact that these platforms cater to individuals who also enjoy socializing and connecting with others. The payment aspect is a natural consequence of the nature of these sites and apps, where users like "John" had to pay for their subscriptions. While it is true that a substantial percentage of users prioritize financial considerations, it is not impossible to find individuals who offer their services without any monetary compensation.

    Over the years that I have spent on Jakarta Sexpedition and interacting with women from dating sites such as Cupid, Badoo, and Micat, I have never directly paid any money to the individuals I have met. While I have occasionally compensated for their Grab rides and meals, that is the extent of my financial involvement. To this day, whenever I communicate with any of my girl about potential future trips to Jakarta, their initial inquiry is regarding the dates and duration of my stay. I even engaged in a long video call with one of my girl today, following her Instagram stories about enjoying a night out at a bar. These are all ordinary individuals who would not venture to North Jakarta unless it was absolutely necessary. The same applies to my 50/50 MILF, with whom I traveled to Bangkok. She did not request any monetary compensation or expensive gifts during our visit. Instead, we explored various attractions, dined at restaurants, and engaged in shopping activities. Notably, she even gifted me T-shirts from Siam.

    Even my Sundanese goddess, whom I spent some memorable time with on September, will be accompanying me until the first week of January in NYC. We didn't met in any dating sites but at Jakarta airport last year. Coincidentally, she was also on the same flight as me. (I can envision a group of our brothers diligently searching the airport for potential matches, but please refrain from engaging in such activities at a vigorous pace!

    Therefore, it is essential to distinguish between genuine freebies and instances of luck. Not every Jakarta girl is solely motivated by P4 P transactions, just as not every Thai girl in Thailand is solely driven by financial gain.

    I trust that these additional insights will provide further clarity on this freebie topic.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kazeu  [View Original Post]
    Some people just have a hard time understanding that other people have advantages or disadvantages that they don't have. Basically, the world is exactly how they see it. Nothing else exists. There are no other possibilities. It’s sad really, because we're all here to learn from one another.

    SA girls are humans. Humans react to different people differently. I've had an SA girl start of charging me but then only ask me for taxi money later on. It happens. not often. but it does happen.

  14. #19501
    Quote Originally Posted by Bacchuss  [View Original Post]
    Never go here but its seam to be the infamous rail tracks.

    I am not sure about the quality a girls, but the old days atmosphere is definitely present.
    I am sure there are a few rail road track locations. The closest one I posted all about just last month. Maybe you should RTFF? You say it appears to be the rail road tracks but not sure. Then you say do not go there. How can you tell someone not to go somewhere you do not even know where the location is?

  15. #19500
    Quote Originally Posted by ExpatAmerican  [View Original Post]
    I'm highly amused at just how many people are triggered by the fact that I managed to get an SA girl for free. LOL.
    Some people just have a hard time understanding that other people have advantages or disadvantages that they don't have. Basically, the world is exactly how they see it. Nothing else exists. There are no other possibilities. Its sad really, because we're all here to learn from one another.

    SA girls are humans. Humans react to different people differently. I've had an SA girl start of charging me but then only ask me for taxi money later on. It happens. not often. but it does happen.

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