Pattaya Reports

[EihTooms]

To throw another log on the fire, immigration sometimes detain the chicks at the airport who are heading to Bahrain to be hookers.

Have you heard they are detained to be questioned about who recruited them by force or seduction to be taken to Bahrain to work as hookers? That would make sense and certainly fits the laws on the issue.

Because we now all know that particular act of procurement for the purposes of taking someone to engage in prostitution either in or outside of Thailand is specifically cited as illegal and punishable by fine and / or prison sentence in The Thai Penal Code and The Prostitution Prevention and Supresson Act.

For the recruiter / procurer, that is. Not for the hookers or their customers in or outside of Thailand. There is no specific law for that cited in The Code or The Act.

[EihTooms]

The Pattaya police colonel and I both noticed they were not arrested for Prostitution. Not even one of them.

And all 60 of those prostitutes were apparently so unfit for the job there were no customers to be found in the vicinity to arrest for that non existant crime either. Not even one.

Haven't you noticed they were still arrested for prostitution?

Even Thai women are not immune to random arrests. This is straight from the Pattaya police:


https://www.newsflare.com/video/2208...own?origin=ids

Sorry dude, I trust the Pattaya police colonel over random internet posters who think prostitution in Thailand is legal.

Feel free to contact Colonel Nattithorn Ratananatanan to tell him not to arrest sex workers.

Correct. I thought all of this was common knowledge for longtime mongers of Thailand, but apparently not.

Its shows us many mongers haven't really been in Thailand long enough to understand Thai laws, so they get shocked about such news reports that we already knew about decades ago.

Again, the report you linked and what the Pattaya colonel is quoted to have said about it fully supports my and other "no law against the act of prostitution between consenting adults"" contention and refutes yours:

Sixty Thai prostitutes frogmarched to police station in sex trade crackdown

https://www.newsflare.com/video/2208...own?origin=ids

This is the bizarre moment 60 Thai hookers were rounded up and arrested to have their details taken - in case they commit crimes in the future.

Police frogmarched dozens of young woman to the station in Pattaya, Thailand, after picking them up on the red-light strip Beach Road. The prostitutes had their IDs recorded, pictures taken and fingerprints marked - with police heralding the ''grand crime prevention measure''.

Footage shows them being herded from police pick-up trucks and covering their faces as they are ushered in lines into the station. They were released an hour late.

Critics said it was unfair to stigmatise the group of young women and an invasion of their privacy. Sue Bangsai, who runs a support group for Thai women in the sex trade, said: 'Police should be supporting the women not demonising them even more.'

"Sex workers risk abuse from customers every day but often their complaints are not heard.

''They often choose this work through a lack of other options and they should not be treated as criminals.''

Colonel Nattithorn Ratananatanan from the City's police station said: ''Ladies who were loitering under trees along the Beach Road were taken to the police station in order to prevent crime."

"We are following the policy to suppress the spread of prostitution. Officers split up and tackled the area and when they saw women showing signs of prostitution they were arrested.

''Background checks were made and their details were added to a database. When tourists have problems in the future we can show the pictures for them to identify the offender.''

Now, I have gone ahead and highlighted the parts where the prostitutes were herded, rounded up and arrested for "showing signs of prostitution" that no one here has refuted is indeed cited specifically in The Thai Penal Code as illegal, a crime, and repeated in The Prostitution Prevention and Supression Act as a means to prevent and suppress an act nobody in authority apparently can find the words to specifically declare as illegal, a crime.

As followed by the Pattaya police here.

So if you will kindly highlight the parts where the Pattaya police colonel states even one of those 60 Thai ladies was arrested for Prostitution rather than for "showing signs of prostitution", presumably openly and shamefully enough to justify an arrest for that particular infraction, we can take it from there.

[UglyAzzMan]

Exactly. Some mongers try to impress girls. Some mongers even try to impress other mongers while talking about having a lot of money, a big dick, and claim they be ballin like a pro. These people usually don't have lots of money or a big dick despite their raving like lunatics. The point is the girls like it easy, fast, and want to be treated nicely. Which is why so many falang newcomers to Pattaya have trouble understanding the girls prefer Korean men.

We talking about the ABC. Angry Blek kook.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Haven't you noticed they were still arrested for prostitution?

Even Thai women are not immune to random arrests. This is straight from the Pattaya police:


https://www.newsflare.com/video/2208...own?origin=ids

Sorry dude, I trust the Pattaya police colonel over random internet posters who think prostitution in Thailand is legal.

Feel free to contact Colonel Nattithorn Ratananatanan to tell him not to arrest sex workers.

Correct. I thought all of this was common knowledge for longtime mongers of Thailand, but apparently not.

Its shows us many mongers haven't really been in Thailand long enough to understand Thai laws, so they get shocked about such news reports that we already knew about decades ago.

That video was from 2018, five and a half years ago.

[Philip Marlow]

Sorry dude, I trust the Pattaya police colonel over random internet posters who think prostitution in Thailand is legal.

Correct. I thought all of this was common knowledge for longtime mongers of Thailand, but apparently not.

Its shows us many mongers haven't really been in Thailand long enough to understand Thai laws,

A friendly word of advice. Whenever you're in Thailand, if you ever find yourself in need of a criminal defense attorney, be sure to get one who didn't get his law education from website news stories and from Thai police colonels. Or from mongers who have been in Thailand a long time. Find one who knows what the Thai penal code is, and understands it.

[Rocko20]

Haven't you noticed that every linked report posted by you and others trying to prove the simple act of consenting adults exchanging sex for money is illegal is loaded with tangential factors and qualifiers that are illegal other than that simple act?

Haven't you noticed they were still arrested for prostitution?

Even Thai women are not immune to random arrests. This is straight from the Pattaya police:

Sixty Thai prostitutes frogmarched to police station in sex trade crackdown

Police frogmarched dozens of young woman to the station in Pattaya, Thailand, after picking them up on the red-light strip Beach Road. The prostitutes had their IDs recorded, pictures taken and fingerprints marked - with police heralding the ''grand crime prevention measure''.

Colonel Nattithorn Ratananatanan from the City's police station said: ''Ladies who were loitering under trees along the Beach Road were taken to the police station in order to prevent crime.

''We are following the policy to suppress the spread of prostitution. Officers split up and tackled the area and when they saw women showing signs of prostitution they were arrested.

https://www.newsflare.com/video/2208...own?origin=ids

Sorry dude, I trust the Pattaya police colonel over random internet posters who think prostitution in Thailand is legal.

Feel free to contact Colonel Nattithorn Ratananatanan to tell him not to arrest sex workers.

To throw another log on the fire, immigration sometimes detain the chicks at the airport who are heading to Bahrain to be hookers.

Correct. I thought all of this was common knowledge for longtime mongers of Thailand, but apparently not.

Its shows us many mongers haven't really been in Thailand long enough to understand Thai laws, so they get shocked about such news reports that we already knew about decades ago.

[Mr Enternational]

I dont understand why mongers continue to think its legal. Its technically still illegal, but its simply rarely enforced

To throw another log on the fire, immigration sometimes detain the chicks at the airport who are heading to Bahrain to be hookers.

[Allover]

From a generalized standpoint, based on many talks with WGs whether they're bar girls or freelancers, many WGs prefer a man (customer) with a small penis (so he doesn't "ruin" her vagina and its easier to suck), big wallet, and fast ejaculation. They're not having sex for pleasure and want their job to be as easy as possible.

Doesn't matter how old, young, fat, bald, short, tall, race, color, or ugly you are. Doesn't matter how "good" you are in bed or how much "game" you have.

I think some mongers get caught up in superficial things trying to impress or seduce sex workers. The point is as long as you have money, there will be pussy you can find regardless of your age.

Thats the point, its not legal. It happened to Lao WGs as well and many Lao women look Thai.

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/lao...024184617.html

I dont understand why mongers continue to think its legal. Its technically still illegal, but its simply rarely enforced so everyone can get their tea money, its really not rocket science.

Exactly. Some mongers try to impress girls. Some mongers even try to impress other mongers while talking about having a lot of money, a big dick, and claim they be ballin like a pro. These people usually don't have lots of money or a big dick despite their raving like lunatics. The point is the girls like it easy, fast, and want to be treated nicely. Which is why so many falang newcomers to Pattaya have trouble understanding the girls prefer Korean men.

[EihTooms]

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Thats the point, its not legal. It happened to Lao WGs as well and many Lao women look Thai.

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/lao...024184617.html

I dont understand why mongers continue to think its legal. Its technically still illegal, but its simply rarely enforced so everyone can get their tea money, its really not rocket science.

Haven't you noticed that every linked report posted by you and others trying to prove the simple act of consenting adults exchanging sex for money is illegal is loaded with tangential factors and qualifiers that are illegal other than that simple act?

From your Lao girls arrested link:

Authorities in Thailand have arrested eight Lao women, seven of whom entered the country illegally to work as prostitutes, and one who worked as their madam, Radio Free Asia has learned.
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"Usually, people from Laos, Cambodia and Myanmar are allowed to work in Thailand in only certain types of work like construction, but not in entertainment venues or karaoke bars, Col. Pattanapong Sripinproh of the Anti-Trafficking in Persons Unit told RFA Lao.

They are not allowed to work as bar girls or drink girls, he said. If they do, theyll be arrested.

Who are the Thai freelancers paying the cops tea money?

Instead of calling it The Prostitution Prevention and Supression Act why didn't they just call it The Criminalization of Prostitution Act? If they meant to make it illegal in light of The Thai Penal Code failing to do so, why just lick around the edges with this attempt only to "prevent" and "supress" an act that is otherwise not illegal in Thailand?

So this "technically illegal" act as every publication appears to have followed some template to repeat over and over while zero, none of them refer to any Title or Section of the Thai Penal Code to back up their unsubstantiated assertion, is "rarely enforced"?

How about "never" enforced. Because there is no Title or Section in the Thai Penal Code nor a passage in The Prostitution Prevention and Supression Act that clearly states that the act of consenting adults exchanging sex for money is illegal or a crime.

There are only Sections for the tangential factors that invariably show up in these news reports about someone getting arrested; advertising on a public platform, openly and shamefully offering it, running it the same as a legitimate business entrrprise, someone who is not performing the sex living off the proceeds of someone else performing it, procuring or taking by force or seduction (recruiting) someone to work as a prostitute, the usual other age and nonconsentual factors and so on.

Do you know how police in countries where prostitution IS illegal bust the prostitute offering it and customers accepting it?

They don't sit at a distance and "observe" public conversations until they are "certain" someone is openly and shamelessly offering sex for money and then arrest them for having that particular conversation but not for the act itself.

They don't sit around six at a group at sidewalk tables in the heart of Sex For Money districts with so much idle free time on their hands with nothing better to do than hassle bicycle riders walking their bicycles to park at a sidewalk bicycle rack.

The don't wait for the opportunity to bust people for visa violations rather than everyone else in the exact same venue selling Sex For Money but who happen to have no visa problems.

Here is what they do; they wire an attractive plain clothes female police officer, station her on a corner and wait for perpetrators to approach and ask 'How much for a blowjob".

Or they wire a plain clothes male police officer and assign him to walk up to and chat with any likely candidate on the street, African, Lao or otherwise.

Then they just wait for the magic words. Sometimes they string it along until they are in a hotel room or apartment, just to make sure, before they slap on the cuffs.

In several locations in Thailand they would be racking up arrests and 20,000 baht Fines every 15 minutes. Better than tea money.

Has any Thai police force ever done something as obvious and simple as that to "prevent" and "supress" prostitution among the local citizenry?

Not "rarely", has it happened "ever"?

Having observed Thai culture and the Thai mindset over the past 12 years, it is impossible to imagine the government making illegal or a crime anything that an uneducated single mom with few if any better options for making serious good money with her natural resources and initiative, short of her commiting robbery, kidnapping, bodily injury and murder. The public outrage would be historic. They haven't done it and they aren't going to do it.

[Rocko20]

The fact of the matter is that many girls tell the older guys after doing the deed with these older guys that they are better in bed than many young guys.

From a generalized standpoint, based on many talks with WGs whether they're bar girls or freelancers, many WGs prefer a man (customer) with a small penis (so he doesn't "ruin" her vagina and its easier to suck), big wallet, and fast ejaculation. They're not having sex for pleasure and want their job to be as easy as possible.

Doesn't matter how old, young, fat, bald, short, tall, race, color, or ugly you are. Doesn't matter how "good" you are in bed or how much "game" you have.

I think some mongers get caught up in superficial things trying to impress or seduce sex workers. The point is as long as you have money, there will be pussy you can find regardless of your age.

1. Don't be a visibly evident foreigner interloping on legal Thai prostitutes' territory.

Thats the point, its not legal. It happened to Lao WGs as well and many Lao women look Thai.

8 Lao women arrested in Thailand for prostitution

https://www.rfa.org/english/news/lao...024184617.html

I dont understand why mongers continue to think its legal. Its technically still illegal, but its simply rarely enforced so everyone can get their “tea money,” its really not rocket science.

[Rocko20]

Your arguments were already weak from the start

Thai law is not an argument. It's the law. You continue to think sex workers and bar girls in thailand have full legal rights and they don't.

In Germany and the Netherlands sex workers have legal rights and can go straight to the police if a bar doesn't pay up, those legal protections dont exist in Thailand.

She pointed out that owners of venues where sex is traded must themselves pay officials under the table, as prostitution remains illegal in Thailand.

Owners of so-called girly bars also fine the sex workers heavily if they fail to show up at work for a day or two. Sometimes, operators deduct money from the commission the women make on drinks bought for them by customers, hoping they will be too drunk to notice.

And since prostitution is illegal, venues providing sexual services are not registered and therefore not subject to regulations on hygiene and safety.

https://world.thaipbs.or.th/detail/t...d-by-law/48316

Source 1: 1996 Prostitution Suppression Act
Source 2: 4 Africans in Phuket getting arrested for prostitution
Source 3: Plans to repeal the 1996 Prostitution Suppression Act with the Sex Workers Protection Bill

Barfine any girl in thailand and ask her what her legal protections are if the bar refuses to pay her. Nothing. She cant sue the bar or go to the cops because its illegal.

[Sazaholix]

Speaking of keeping young and healthy by a variety of exercises, I'm looking for outrigger canoe club or team in the Pattaya area. In NZ it's called Waka Ama or Va'a.

[Jarango]

The fact of the matter is that many girls tell the older guys after doing the deed with these older guys that they are better in bed than many young guys.

https://thethaiger.com/news/pattaya/...ath-in-pattaya

Here is a report of the ram's arrest.

Of course, hookers like old guys, less work, more money.

I am in my 70's and have used viagra but don't like it for heart and other reasons. Fact is, performance lags with age. That is discounting centenarians who run marathons etc, I am pretty healthy for my age but my days of bonking half of South East Asia are over. Good luck to those who still can but maybe some of that is schoolboy boasting.

[Turgid]

Why stop. I'm 72, fit, and typically taken for mid-to-late 50's. I'm in Chiang Mai for my 12th winter here, and getting pussy every night. I prefer the massage parlours over bars and the barfine scene. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't take drugs, hike a lot, practice yoga at least 3 times per week, go to the gym at least twice a week. I stay at a family run guest house where it is not appropriate to bring guests to my room. But the massage parlors are a LOT of fun. I have known some of my favorites for more than 7 or 8 years and love spending time with them. And I have already found 3 new ladies this winter. I love Thai pussy! Life is so much fun, even at my age.

The fact of the matter is that many girls tell the older guys after doing the deed with these older guys that they are better in bed than many young guys.

[BeachDrone]

Sorry, but there is no one age fits all when it comes to when we should "hang up our spurs", as you put it. I'm guessing you are still a young lad, so 70 sounds really old to you, but as long as you take care of your health, and especially with the help of the blue pill, there is no reason your bodily functions can't continue working just fine well into your 70's and 80's. There are countless examples of men fathering children in their 70's and 80's, check out some famous examples like Charlie Chaplin, Al Pacino, Robert De Niro, Mick Jagger. There's no time limit on when we should stop having fun.

Why stop. I'm 72, fit, and typically taken for mid-to-late 50's. I'm in Chiang Mai for my 12th winter here, and getting pussy every night. I prefer the massage parlours over bars and the barfine scene. I don't drink, don't smoke, don't take drugs, hike a lot, practice yoga at least 3 times per week, go to the gym at least twice a week. I stay at a family run guest house where it is not appropriate to bring guests to my room. But the massage parlors are a LOT of fun. I have known some of my favorites for more than 7 or 8 years and love spending time with them. And I have already found 3 new ladies this winter. I love Thai pussy! Life is so much fun, even at my age.