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  1. #16978
    Trump jumping monkey fool, Musk might be too much fed with apartheid where he was born. Fortunately, he can t be after Trump who didn t succeed to stop Ukraine war yet, when he claimed after only 1 day.

  2. #16977

    Things are usually calculated over 10 years for the budget

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Trump's Pandemic Part 2, dot #3:

    State Department freezes new funding for nearly all US aid programs worldwide.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/01/25/stat...ndroidappshare

    It looks like Trump will be adding a dot or two more than was necessary last time for him to Mass Murder at least 1 Million Americans and millions more around the World.

    But, then, this time he seems to be targeting more children than before. Perhaps he just wants to be more certain of the desired results rather than relying on historic "Repub luck" to produce horrific results as he did in his first term.

    Of course, that part could very well be a President Musk directive:
    60 billion USD per year is 600 billion.

    Erase that trade deficit and that's $10,600,000,000,000 aka 10.6 trillion USD.

    I believe that could improve the quality of life for many Americans in the United States, now multiply that many decades going forward.

    And then just imagine how that would affect International mongering LMAO.

    DJT is going to MMGA "Make Mongering Great Again".

    ALLAHU AKBAR.

  3. #16976

    Wtf

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirioja  [View Original Post]
    You never heard children telling: I never ask to born? Better no birth than unhappy child and mother, out of stupid puritanism in porn country, with Trump going with porn actress.
    Do you wish you were aborted? Can I see a show of hands from the pro baby butchering contingent in this thread, how many say yes? How about a partial birth butchering? Which one of you are angry you weren't butchered like that?

    Puritanism? How many French politicians have girlfriends?

    https://www.france24.com/en/20190926...any-of-affairs

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37621875

    How can you be anti sex? And I thought you were the Napoleon of FKKland? How many Romanian hookers have you given your Euros to?

    How many thousands? 3000? 4000? 5000? More?

  4. #16975

    LOL Sounds like you really really hate hearing the truth, from the NYT no less LOL

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Why is it always "mandates" and always the "whole country" for totalitarians? Why can't they not shamelessly exaggerate even when they don't have to?

    You have won the election. No one's arguing that. No one runs to the Capitol to break down the doors and hang the traitors.

    And yet, you still have to lie about the numbers. Why is it so important to you?

    You have half. Half of the country, which is still a tragedy, but you don't have the whole country.

    And yes, pasting long articles on a forum, even with "advertisement breaks" is lazy and extremely bad taste. It means you can't even bother to speak your own mind.

    On the other hand, I'm surprised you're upset that I called your mind twisted. You're advocating for civil wars, praising Putin and his war against Ukraine, and you're not twisted? What are you then, a conventional conservative?

    Come on now.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/23/w...n-ukraine.html

    Trump Is Leading a Global Surge to the Right.

    But not all of the leading conservative populist parties in the world are the same in rhetoric or on policy.

    Listen to this article 9:55 min Learn more.

    Share full article.

    An overhead view of President Trump standing near long blue curtains.

    President Trump before his swearing-in on Monday in Washington. Credit. Kenny Holston / The New York Times.

    Jim TankersleyEmma BubolaAndrew HigginsAurelien Breeden.

    By Jim TankersleyEmma BubolaAndrew Higgins and Aurelien Breeden.

    Reporting from Berlin, Rome, Warsaw and Paris.

    Jan. 23,2025.

    At the start of his second term President Trump has positioned himself at the crest of a global wave of hard-line conservative populism, offering fuel and inspiration to surging nationalist parties in the European Union and beyond.

    Those parties are generally united by tough stances against immigrants, support for what they call "traditional" values in opposition to L. G. be. T. Rights, aversion to climate regulations and pugnacious critiques of establishment politicians and parties.

    To varying degrees, some, though not all, have also sought to weaken or undermine existing institutions, such as courts or an independent media, in what critics have called efforts to erode democracy and maintain authoritarian grips on power.

    It is a wide spectrum that includes the Alternative for Germany, or AfD, which is trying to broaden its appeal before elections next month but still winks at Nazi slogans; the Brothers of Italy, which grew from post-Fascism but has moderated after it won power; the National Rally, which has more lawmakers than ever in France after a prolonged attempt to soften its image; and the Freedom Party of Austria, which was founded by former Nazi soldiers decades ago and embraced a combative image en route to winning elections last fall.

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    But the parties differ from one another, and from Mr. Trump, in critical ways. Rhetorically, Mr. Trump falls at a far end of the spectrum of right-wing politicians and parties that have not been shy about using openly racist or incendiary language to disparage immigrants and political opponents.

    In some cases, like his calls to deport millions of undocumented immigrants, Mr. Trump has promised changes that many of his most adoring fans in Europe have stopped well short of.

    Giorgia Meloni, for instance, has dialed back many of her more hard-line stances since becoming prime minister of Italy. In some ways, Ms. Meloni has provided a road map for hard-right leaders seeking to win and hold power in Europe: Talk a fiery game, but tack to the center on some issues most notably support for Ukraine.

    Image.

    Italy's prime minister, Giorgia Meloni, in a dark blue blazer and white shirt.

    Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni of Italy at Mr. Trump's inauguration on Monday. Ms. Meloni has, in some ways, provided a road map for far-right leaders seeking to win and hold power in Europe. Credit. Pool photo by Saul Loeb.

    Mr. Trump may be providing a competing one, less apologetic and more emphatic. Experts say even Ms. Meloni, who attended Mr. Trump's inauguration, and right-wing parties in Europe, might be tempted to follow it.

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    "The barriers are coming down," said Nathalie Tocci, a leading Italian political scientist.

    Here is how the European Union's main conservative populist parties compare with each other, and with Mr. Trump, on key issues:

    Divides over Ukraine.

    Mr. Trump has vowed to immediately bring an end to the war, though it is unclear how he plans to do so. In Europe, support for Ukraine has divided right-wing parties, with those adopting ambiguous or pro-Russian positions being pushed toward the margins.

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    Many of them look to post-Soviet Russia as a bastion of traditional values, but the full-scale invasion of Ukraine has dimmed its allure, at least for some.

    "There are differences," between Ms. Meloni's Brothers of Italy party and other forces such as Prime Minister Viktor Orban of Hungary's Fidesz party, said Carlo Fidanza, the head of Ms. Meloni's delegation in the European Parliament. "The main one is Ukraine. ".

    Ms. Meloni has positioned herself as a strong backer of Ukraine, along with most of Italy's E. You. Allies. She has said it would be a "mistake" to abandon Ukraine.

    In Hungary, however, the Fidesz party is stridently opposed to all military aid for Ukraine and to European sanctions on Russia over the war, which it blames for Hungary's high inflation rate and generally poor economic performance. (Hungary has long depended on relatively cheap Russian energy.).

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    Mr. Orban has met with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia twice since the invasion began, presenting himself as a "peacemaker" and denouncing Hungary's E. You. And NATO allies as warmongers.

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    Hungary's prime minister, Viktor Orban, shaking hands with Russia's president, Vladimir V. Putin. Both men are in dark blue suits.

    A photograph released by the Hungarian government showing Prime Minister Viktor Orban meeting with President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia in Moscow in July. Credit. Hungarian Prime Minister's Office.

    The war has ruptured previously close ties between Mr. Orban and Poland's right-wing Law and Justice party, or PiS, which was in power in February 2022 when Russia invaded.

    But other leaders on the extreme right are closer to Mr. Orban's camp. Herbert Kickl, the man poised to be Austria's next chancellor, and his Freedom Party have built ties to Moscow and criticized European involvement in Ukraine.

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    Alice Weidel, the chancellor candidate for the Alternative for Germany, or AfD, which has its strongest support in eastern Germany where affinity for Russia is strong, has accused German leaders of a "very dangerous" escalation of the conflict by supporting Ukraine.

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    In France, the National Rally in 2014 took a 9. 4 million euro loan, then worth $12.2 million, from a Russian bank, and Marine LE Pen, the party's longtime leader, once said she "admired" Mr. Putin.

    But since Russia's invasion, which the National Rally and its top officials have condemned, the party has sought to reposition itself if only slightly.

    The National Rally does not oppose sending Ukraine defensive equipment. But it strenuously objects to providing the Ukrainians with offensive weapons.

    It has also repeatedly opposed some of the sanctions on Russian imports especially energy and it has rejected the possibility of Ukraine joining the European Union or NATO.

    Some Soften the Talk.

    Many of Europe's farthest-right parties share Mr. Trump's abrasive rhetoric, disparaging their enemies and portraying themselves as outsiders and victims.

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    Over the years, Ms. Meloni had denounced what she called the ethnic replacement of Italians by immigrants and called for a naval blockade against illegal migrants.

    Since taking office, she has toned down her tirades. While Mr. Trump on Monday decried an "invasion" of the United States by immigrants, Ms. Meloni has largely stopped using that word.

    Still, she has continued to use polarizing language to portray her party as outsiders and underdogs, and to direct vitriolic attacks on the left, journalists, trade unionists, judges and the billionaire liberal donor George Soros. She has also continued to oppose gay parenthood and the teaching of gender theory in schools.

    The National Rally in France has attempted to distance itself from the racist, antisemitic and anti-gay outbursts of its founder, Jean-Marie LE Pen, who died this month. His daughter Marine has attempted to shift the party's focus more toward pocketbook issues as part of a protracted effort to undemonize it.

    Image.

    Marine LE Pen, dressed in all black, walking down a set of stairs, flanked by people holding flags.

    The National Rally's leader, Marine LE Pen, leaving after a memorial service for her father, the French far-right figure Jean-Marie LE Pen, in Paris, last week. Credit. Bertrand Guay / Agence France-Presse Getty Images.

    The shift has helped the party make strides in elections, even as many experts have characterized it as mere marketing. The party's unrelenting focus on protecting French identity and its eagerness to change the French Constitution to restrict the rights of foreigners still mark it in France as a far-right party, experts say.

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    In Germany, where voters will pick a new government in late February, the Alternative for Germany party is attempting to soften its image, too. It has chosen Ms. Weidel a lesbian economist who lives in Switzerland with her Sri Lankan partner and children as its standard-bearer in the race.

    She and the party are attempting to appeal to a broader audience, aided in part by the billionaire Elon Musk, who has endorsed the AfD. But they are saying very different things to different audiences.

    Parts of the AfD have been formally classified as extremist by the German government. But Ms. Weidel told Mr. Musk in a recent friendly interview that the AfD was "a conservative libertarian party. ".

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    A blond woman sitting in front of a laptop and gesturing into a camera.

    Alice Weidel, co-leader of the Alternative for Germany party, before a virtual talk with Elon Musk on his platform X. Credit. Pool photo by Kay Nietfeld.

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    Just days later, AfD party members greeted Ms. Weidel with repeated chants of "Alice for Germany," a play on the old Nazi refrain "Everything for Germany," which is now a crime to use in Germany.

    Some parties have not softened their tone at all. In Austria, the Freedom Party gained ground in recent elections after intensifying confrontational language critical of immigrants and Islam.

    Party members have reveled in slogans with Nazi echoes, including Mr. Kickl. The Freedom Party campaigned on a promise that Mr. Kickl would be a "Volkskanzler" "people's chancellor" a term used by Hitler.

    Nuances on Immigration.

    Mr. Trump has promised to deport every one of the millions of immigrants who remain in the United States illegally. While immigration is at the center of all of these parties' agendas in Europe, they have different ideas on how to address it.

    The AfD has pledged to deport some recent migrants to Germany who commit crimes, but not others who learn German or otherwise assimilate.

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    Fidesz in Hungary has denounced migrants as a threat to public health and potential terrorists.

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    Herbert Kickl, the man poised to be Austria's next chancellor, speaking near Vienna, last week. Credit. Max Slovencik / EPA, via Shutterstock.

    Ms. Meloni has said she only opposes illegal immigration, and acknowledged the need for legal immigration. She has introduced a much-contested plan to transfer asylum seekers to centers in Albania while their cases are heard, and supported legislation to distribute migrants from border countries where they first arrive (like Italy and Greece) to other European Union nations.

    Other nationalist leaders in countries farther from the coast opposed the idea.

    In France, the National Rally wants to reduce immigration drastically, eliminate birthright citizenship, force people seeking asylum to apply abroad, and privilege French people over even legal migrants for social benefits and subsidized housing.

    The party argues that reducing immigration is necessary to free up funding for other areas like health care and to protect French identity.

  5. #16974

    Oh, really? Then:

    Then why hasn't he imposed those Trump Tariff Taxes On The American Consumer and Working Men and Women yet?

    What is he waiting for?

    We are LONG PAST Day One.

    If they are so beautiful and are so great for everyone I would think he would have imposed those glorious gifts onto America and the American people way sooner than his EO raising the cost of prescription drugs, stopping the CDC from communicating with anyone about anything in the midst of a potential transition from animal to human for the crippling and deadly H5 virus, handing over the levers of control on preventing and responding to WHO reports of emerging viral spreads to the Chinese exactly as he did pre Trump's Pandemic, etc.

    I for one am DAMN PISSED he did not impose and enact everything he promised in his campaign on Day One as he said he would. I absolutely, positively want MAGAs to get everything they voted for and ASAP.

    Yes, it is a shame that everyone smart enough to vote 100% Dem up and down their ballot will enjoy those same classic Repub Results.

    Oh well.

    So when will he stop teasing us by dangling those lovely Trump Tariff Taxes over our heads and DELIVER on his promise already!

    I thought he said Bidenomics was so terrible he needed to respond to the horrible results of it as an EMERGENCY!

    So this is how he responds to a National EMERGENCY?

    Where is he playing golf today?

    Quick! Somebody run out there and remind him he has not gifted us with those wonderful Trump Tariff Taxes yet!
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  6. #16973

    Thanks for the usual mindless, unsubstantiated blather

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    This from the dumb Democratic douche who thought prosecuting Trump criminally and banning him from Twitter were great moves when in reality they put billions in Trump's pocket. And now you are smart economically? LOL. Give me a break. You are a fool. The only economic idea you dumb Dems have is Orange Man bad. You fools think EVs are practical and going to change the world, that excessive government spending does not cause inflation, that green means job, and EV tax credits do not cost anyone anything.

    Tiny showed where Spidy's thinking was so flawed with that one clip, but like I said, Spidy tripped over a half truth. The Chinese are not just making good cars now. They are better than ours, and they can be produced at half the price. The cheapest American car is $20,000. The cheapest Chinese car in Chile is $9,000, and that $9,000 car is better than the $20,000 one.

    For a senior fart like you living on government checks, being in favor of removing tariffs on Chinese cars is the easiest stance you can have. If Americans can buy cars for 50% of what they can now, inflation is gone. Interest rates come down, and instead of having to pay exorbitant interest rates on the debt, government can give more to you, and your dollar goes further if there is no inflation. For somebody as selfish as you Tooms, this is a big a no brainer as there is.

    For those of us who care about our country, we know that removing tariffs means destroying the USA auto industry and having to put out of work everyone who is working there. MDS and Jaime Damon have taken the other side and said that the cost of the tariffs is worth it in the long run.

    Biden and his administration had no fucking clue with regards to inflation. What I see Trump doing is trying a middle ground. Playing up the power of tariffs to cut a deal with China. Let's get some of the inflationary benefits of cheap Chinese cars but have them build factories here so American workers are not screwed and all the car factories are not in China. Maybe the cars at $15,000 versus $20,000 is enough to get a handle on inflation.

    But when the fires came to California, the reservoir manager who was being paid $750,000 a year had reservoirs that were empty. Fire departments hired fat gay women who could not lift men out of a burning building. And on top of that, for much less than the amount spent in Ukraine, California could have had a water and natural gas pipeline from Alaska. There could have an end to the droughts in California and cheap clean energy ending the brownouts or Biden could spend money trying to fuck over Putin. How stupid do you have to be to pick Putin hatred over water and electricity?

    But still even after that, you go back to your echo chamber where Trump is dumb. You mingle with and fill your head up with the ideas of the folks on the view, MSNBC, and the NYTimes. You repeat the same tired song and dance and play the game of who can insult Trump the best.

    Thing is Joe Rogan and Donald Trump warned you dumb Dems about the fires. Trump said rake the forests, do not let the water drain into the ocean and fill the reservoirs. And what do you say about that? Nothing. You dumb Democratic douches call us MAGA folks in a cult? Shit, you won't say one word about the fires. Not even, okay, so a broken clock is right twice a day. Nothing.

    And here you are again going back to your same routine about Trump being stupid and advocating people tune him out. Hundreds of millions of people heard Trump on Joe Rogan warn about the fires. Why would you be making fun of Trump after that? Do you want more fires?

    If this were a totally natural tragedy, I would be like, "Oh yeah, I do not care if my insurance rates or taxes go up. Help these people. " But now, I am like, why should I pay a damned penny? This same shit is going to happen again if the same morons are in charge. Dumb Democratic douches like yourself do not learn shit. Calling Trump stupid does not fill up the reservoirs.

    In comparison, Texas got hit by another huge snowstorm earlier this week, a much bigger than in 2021 when there was partial power for a few days. This time, there were almost no power outages. Unlike in California, the problem was fucking fixed.

    When you describe others being in a cult, you need to look in a mirror. I have listed multiple positions about what you should be advocating for and you cannot even do that. How dumb do you have to be to think Trump was wrong on the fires? And support the Democratic idiots who let them happen?
    I must say the links of substantiation for so much as a single word of your typical mindless blather that you didn't provide this time are far more impressive than the links of substantiation you usually don't provide.

    Congratulations.

    I have to ask; did you write that speech Trump read from the teleprompter in his usual hilarious "menacing" monotone at the WEF? Where he revealed to the entire global business world that the MAGAloons that put him back in office have got to be the biggest dumb suckers in history?

    Seems like your handiwork.

  7. #16972

    Yes, Fux News is suddenly fine and dandy with Inflation too.

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    I'm perfectly ok with inflation as long as it destroys Globalism! Especially the one sided Trade with Asia and the EU (maybe even Canada and Mexico also).

    See Americas $1,000,000,000,000 trade deficit.
    Fox follows Jamie Dimon in endorsing higher inflation from Trumps planned tariffs: So be it

    https://www.mediamatters.org/fox-new...ffs-so-be-it-0

    Fox cited Dimon to downplay concerns over inflation from Trumps tariffs
    On CNBCs Squawk Box, JPMorgan Chase CEO Jamie Dimon said: If it is a little inflationary, but it's good for national security, so be it. I mean, get over it. National security trumps a little bit more inflation. CNBC, Squawk Box, 1/22/25

    Fox Business host Jackie DeAngelis: If we see a little inflation because were going to bring business back home here, and because were going to grow the American economy? As Jamie Dimon earlier said, so be it. Fox News, The Faulkner Focus, 1/23/25

    Fox Business anchor Maria Bartiromo cited Dimons defense of Trumps tariffs and claimed Trumps policies are actually anti-inflationary. Bartiromo echoed past right-wing media whitewashing of Trumps economic proposals, saying, He uses tariffs as leverage. Im not worried about tariffs. Fox News, Americas Newsroom, 1/23/25; Media Matters, 9/12/24

    Fox News anchor Bret Baier aired a clip of Dimon defending expected inflation from Trumps tariffs: Get over it, he says. Fox News, Special Report, 1/22/25

    Fox Business host Charles Payne: After Dimon defended the expected inflation from Trumps tariffs, people are kind of taking a second look at this. Fox Business, Making Money, 1/23/25
    My goodness gracious but we DO seem to be entering a Golden Age of Inflation Acceptance Happiness, don't we.

    And I suspect the name "Larry Summers" has not passed the lips of any of those Fux News personalities in quite a while.

    I am so glad to know that now the price of eggs just does not matter to Trump's American Oligarchs, Russia's Oligarchs that write and provide "news" copy for everyone at Fux News to read, endorse and feed their MAGA viewers, you and everyone else. This reduces a lot of stress and pressure on the chickens too.

    You know, now that you mention it and I think of it, I have been giving money to my tax accountant, rental property manager, thousands of restaurant owners, service workers, hotel owners, airlines and hookers over many, many years and I'll be damned if any of them have EVER given me any money at all!

    That creates a huge monetary "trade deficit" to their favor and to my disfavor in an amount that must exceed well into the hundreds of thousands of dollars by now!

    I sure hope nobody else reading this has ever handed out money left and right as I have and virtually never gotten any money in return for it. You most of all.
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  8. #16971
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I am so anxious to read the posts by Elvis, Tiny, MDS and any Inflation Hawks here rhapsodizing about how sweet it is, so be it, get over it that "smart businessman" Donald Trump will pay for utterly worthless, deficit-skyrocketing tax cuts for himself and his wealthy cronies by increasing Tariff Taxes on the American Working Men and Women, jacking up and Inflating costs for everything
    This from the dumb Democratic douche who thought prosecuting Trump criminally and banning him from Twitter were great moves when in reality they put billions in Trump's pocket. And now you are smart economically? LOL. Give me a break. You are a fool. The only economic idea you dumb Dems have is Orange Man bad. You fools think EVs are practical and going to change the world, that excessive government spending does not cause inflation, that green means job, and EV tax credits do not cost anyone anything.

    Tiny showed where Spidy's thinking was so flawed with that one clip, but like I said, Spidy tripped over a half truth. The Chinese are not just making good cars now. They are better than ours, and they can be produced at half the price. The cheapest American car is $20,000. The cheapest Chinese car in Chile is $9,000, and that $9,000 car is better than the $20,000 one.

    For a senior fart like you living on government checks, being in favor of removing tariffs on Chinese cars is the easiest stance you can have. If Americans can buy cars for 50% of what they can now, inflation is gone. Interest rates come down, and instead of having to pay exorbitant interest rates on the debt, government can give more to you, and your dollar goes further if there is no inflation. For somebody as selfish as you Tooms, this is a big a no brainer as there is.

    For those of us who care about our country, we know that removing tariffs means destroying the USA auto industry and having to put out of work everyone who is working there. MDS and Jaime Damon have taken the other side and said that the cost of the tariffs is worth it in the long run.

    Biden and his administration had no fucking clue with regards to inflation. What I see Trump doing is trying a middle ground. Playing up the power of tariffs to cut a deal with China. Let's get some of the inflationary benefits of cheap Chinese cars but have them build factories here so American workers are not screwed and all the car factories are not in China. Maybe the cars at $15,000 versus $20,000 is enough to get a handle on inflation.

    But when the fires came to California, the reservoir manager who was being paid $750,000 a year had reservoirs that were empty. Fire departments hired fat gay women who could not lift men out of a burning building. And on top of that, for much less than the amount spent in Ukraine, California could have had a water and natural gas pipeline from Alaska. There could have an end to the droughts in California and cheap clean energy ending the brownouts or Biden could spend money trying to fuck over Putin. How stupid do you have to be to pick Putin hatred over water and electricity?

    But still even after that, you go back to your echo chamber where Trump is dumb. You mingle with and fill your head up with the ideas of the folks on the view, MSNBC, and the NYTimes. You repeat the same tired song and dance and play the game of who can insult Trump the best.

    Thing is Joe Rogan and Donald Trump warned you dumb Dems about the fires. Trump said rake the forests, do not let the water drain into the ocean and fill the reservoirs. And what do you say about that? Nothing. You dumb Democratic douches call us MAGA folks in a cult? Shit, you won't say one word about the fires. Not even, okay, so a broken clock is right twice a day. Nothing.

    And here you are again going back to your same routine about Trump being stupid and advocating people tune him out. Hundreds of millions of people heard Trump on Joe Rogan warn about the fires. Why would you be making fun of Trump after that? Do you want more fires?

    If this were a totally natural tragedy, I would be like, "Oh yeah, I do not care if my insurance rates or taxes go up. Help these people. " But now, I am like, why should I pay a damned penny? This same shit is going to happen again if the same morons are in charge. Dumb Democratic douches like yourself do not learn shit. Calling Trump stupid does not fill up the reservoirs.

    In comparison, Texas got hit by another huge snowstorm earlier this week, a much bigger than in 2021 when there was partial power for a few days. This time, there were almost no power outages. Unlike in California, the problem was fucking fixed.

    When you describe others being in a cult, you need to look in a mirror. I have listed multiple positions about what you should be advocating for and you cannot even do that. How dumb do you have to be to think Trump was wrong on the fires? And support the Democratic idiots who let them happen?

  9. #16970
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Malum in se. Malum in se is a concept in criminal law referring to an inherently immoral act, regardless of whether the action is criminalized.

    Abortion is the murder of a baby.

    Tread lightly, Karma isn't so kind to baby butchers.

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-brain-cancer/

    Its a shame it took her so quickly she should of suffered much much longer!!

    Brain cancer is the perfect death for this monster.
    You never heard children telling: I never ask to born? Better no birth than unhappy child and mother, out of stupid puritanism in porn country, with Trump going with porn actress.

  10. #16969

    Always "mandates" and "whole country"

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    The whole country has turned against the radical extremism of the left and you call me twisted? That's some pretty serious projecting there. Lololol.

    Post a quote? The whole article is my quote, I'm a bridge from NYT to ISGs Politics thread, ok if you don't read the whole article maybe someone else will.
    Why is it always "mandates" and always the "whole country" for totalitarians? Why can't they not shamelessly exaggerate even when they don't have to?

    You have won the election. No one's arguing that. No one runs to the Capitol to break down the doors and hang the traitors.

    And yet, you still have to lie about the numbers. Why is it so important to you?

    You have half. Half of the country, which is still a tragedy, but you don't have the whole country.

    And yes, pasting long articles on a forum, even with "advertisement breaks" is lazy and extremely bad taste. It means you can't even bother to speak your own mind.

    On the other hand, I'm surprised you're upset that I called your mind twisted. You're advocating for civil wars, praising Putin and his war against Ukraine, and you're not twisted? What are you then, a conventional conservative?

    Come on now.

  11. #16968

    OMG! That's what business success means to you?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...ding-suspended

    Shares in Trump Media & Technology Group (TMTG), the former president's tiny social media empire, rose 8. 8% on Tuesday. Trading of the stock was suspended several times due to volatility.

    TMTG has surged in recent weeks, tripling its value this month alone, as Trump courted voters during the final stage of the presidential campaign. Trump's majority stake is currently worth about $5. 9 bn.
    A corrupt, unscrupulous politician's social media concoction financed by the Chinese and Russians, the concoction always ridden with multiple violations, the concoction so terrible in thought and execution that it was soaking in obscurity for years until he got to power?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truth_Social

    That's business success?

    Jesus, you're so much dumber than I could ever imagine.

    Hey, while you're at it. Do you know who has way more money than Trump?

    Putin.

    Time for new praises.

  12. #16967

    Oren used to work for Mittens the turd no less

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    But the poor things that didn't vote for Harris still don't realize it and might not ever realize it. The best cons are the ones that leave the sucker marks thinking they did a good thing without the slightest clue they've been conned.

    Case in point; note the "alarming" headlines and emotional reaction to the supposed "Mass Deportations" happening a week into this mess:

    Trump ramps up ICE arrests, alarming cities and immigrant communities.
    The number of suspects arrested several hundred per day has been outpaced by the psychological impact of the attention on ICE operations.


    https://www.washingtonpost.com/immig...ons-trump-ice/

    But a closer look into the report reveals this:

    A lot of showy theatrics but business as usual, even under the Biden administration, but likely in the end less than under the Obama administration.

    So, to recap, at this point, many days after "Day One", there have been no Mass Deportations beyond what is typically done anyway, no tariffs, no end to the Ukraine War, no reduction in the cost of eggs, groceries, gas or rent.

    However, Trump HAS passed EOs that will RAISE the cost of prescription drugs for the poor and elderly, will make the air and water dirtier, exacerbate the disastrous effects of climate change and rush in the next Trump's Pandemic. Oh, and the March to outlaw Sex For Pleasure continues unawares.

    Of course, he will definitely continue to claim unearned and undeserved credit for the terrific Bidenomics trajectories he inherited along the way. Until his Know Nothingness and Do Nothingness inevitably run out of terrific Bidenomics wind to coast on and the next inevitable Once in a 100 Yeats Repub Disaster comes along for him to embrace, exacerbate and exploit.

    Until then, it is time to hit those links for golf, golf and more golf mixed in with every embarrassing grift and con he can think of to sucker more of the dumb hillbillies who voted for him or just didn't vote for Harris.

    Oh well.
    https://americancompass.org/the-arc-...oward-tariffs/

    https://foreignpolicy.com/2024/11/22...trump-tariffs/

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...-trump/680015/

    https://www.gzeromedia.com/gzero-wor...trumps-tariffs

    https://www.gzeromedia.com/in-60-sec...-eyes-on-trump

    Tariff aka "the most beautiful word on the planet".

  13. #16966

    Billy Bob nailed it!

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Really, how are EVs "a pain in the ass" and "terrible" for the environment? Dude, Elvis 2008, you just sound very misinformed and confused, with crap statements like that! I don't see world gov'ts putting billion dollar fines and emission regulations on EV manufacturers. "VW Stares Down The Barrel Of $1.6 Billion EU Fine. ". If Volkswagen can't meet the EU's emissions targets they could face some severe penalties... https://www.carscoops.com/2025/01/vw...llion-eu-fine/

    According to Tiny 12's Goldman Sachs article, there's been some $1.2 trillion in tax credits for EV purchases from "wealthy" Americans. Sounds like a lot of American's are enjoying their "pain in the ass" EVs?
    • Check this out: It took 68 years for the world to reach 1 terawatt of solar PV capacity. It took just two years to double it, Nov 11, 2024. Face it, by 2035, solar will supply and make up 40+% of the worlds energy source. https://reneweconomy.com.au/it-took-...-to-double-it/

    That's a lot of FREE FUEL for your EVs, that your right-wing oil and gas slave masters and robber barons don't want you to have. When are you Rebub clowns, gonna wake up to that FACT!

    Most ICE vehicle manufacturing will be down to about 15%, by 2035 and that Repub "old school think" and "drill baby drill" only mentality, will set America going backwards, while China dominates on the world stage in huge sales of clean renewable energy solutions, EVs and battery automotive/industrial and robotic excellence.



    So only wealthy EV owners are eligible to takes advantage of the tax credit? And are responsible for the $1.2T of pork (according to Goldman Sachs)? That sure is a lot of EV purchases, by just "wealthy" Americans? So why are right wing media outlets saying nobody is buying EVs and nobody wants them and EV sales are way down, pathetic and moribund?

    BTW, what exactly is in that $1.2T you quoted, as I'm sure many of those fascist red states are benefiting from President Biden job and manufacturing growth for the Clean Energy incentives in the IRA. Surely your not saying it all just EV Tax Credits?

    The Times Is Forced to Correct a Misleading Article Claiming Electric Vehicle Demand Is Falling When Its Actually Rising, 13th, Jan 2025 https://bylinetimes.com/2025/01/13/t...tually-rising/

    Could it be just another fabrication, like yet another round lies from yet another Rupert Murdock News Crop, entity, as The Times, was just convicted in the UK for lying about EV car sales demand and force to make a retraction. Falsely claiming EV car sales have been going down, when numbers show the complete opposite is the case. No doubt backed by scared fossil fuel and legacy auto companies.

    I guess that would be like all those "wealthy homeowners" that were given a similar tax credit for the Energy Efficient Home Improvement Credits? I'm sure the people who were renting or lived in apartments or out of country, must not have also either appreciated subsidizing all those "wealthy homeowners" upgrades?

    Point being, this is not the first or the last gov't tax credit "program" to subsidize and benefit one segment of the population over the other.
    https://youtu.be/fmbZwxEnAFc

  14. #16965

    Well I'm pretty sure you remember me writing

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    I am so anxious to read the posts by Elvis, Tiny, MDS and any Inflation Hawks here rhapsodizing about how sweet it is, so be it, get over it that "smart businessman" Donald Trump will pay for utterly worthless, deficit-skyrocketing tax cuts for himself and his wealthy cronies by increasing Tariff Taxes on the American Working Men and Women, jacking up and Inflating costs for everything just as his constant blather about doing it has already jacked up and Inflated the cost of shipments, the items being shipped and mortgage loan rates even before he raises those American Consumer Tariff Taxes and regardless whether he actually gets around to putting down the golf club to do it or not.

    JPMorgan CEO Jamie Dimon says to get over it on Trumps tariff proposals.

    https://fortune.com/2025/01/23/jpmor...mexico-canada/

    Hey, speaking of Inflation Hawks, whatever happened to former Mainstream Media Darling Larry Summers?

    Throughout most of Biden's historically successful presidential term and certainly before the 2022 midterms and the 2024 election I could barely turn on or access a MSM outlet without re-hearing over and over again how Biden's brilliant short and long-term economic stimulus, growth and expansion legislation "might risk" higher inflation. But lately?
    I'm perfectly ok with inflation as long as it destroys Globalism! Especially the one sided Trade with Asia and the EU (maybe even Canada and Mexico also).

    See Americas $1,000,000,000,000 trade deficit.

  15. #16964

    My mind is twisted

    Quote Originally Posted by Xpartan  [View Original Post]
    Why did you think I'd be interested in NYT articles when I'm only interested in your twisted mind.

    And seriously man quit pasting whole damn things. Post a quote to illustrate what you are thinking. That's damn lazy what you're doing, seriously.
    The whole country has turned against the radical extremism of the left and you call me twisted? That's some pretty serious projecting there. Lololol.

    Post a quote? The whole article is my quote, I'm a bridge from NYT to ISGs Politics thread, ok if you don't read the whole article maybe someone else will.

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