Jakarta

[Joe2422]

Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.

Please don't ruin the prices so we can have fun for a long time! I've never paid a single dollar for pictures. When you tip, which you probably do anyway, ask for a photo. They'll do it for you.

[Plant Smoke]

How do you say in indo, "tip will be in cash".

[Gabacho]

Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.

I have taken selfies with over 50 girls from classic whom I have also bareback CIPd.

First of all learn some basic bahasa phrases. Atleast tell her "kamu cantik" and be able to ask "Siapa namamu?" and "kamu darimana? And be able to make small talk like that. Contrary to what Werweq says, 200 k is not too much for bbfscip. It is within the range of what most girls at classic will accept (some will accept lower and some will demand higher). Also bbfscip is not a "basic service" such as Werweq says. Basic service is BBBJ after being wiped down with Listerine and then condom sex. And if you are getting only the basic service you shouldn't even tip 50 k. I never understood these guys tipping for nothing. Just because you do that in restaurants in the US and Canada doesn't mean you do it in a *****house in Jakarta.

That being said start out offering lower for BBFS start out at 100 k (try to learn how to say "Seratus Ribu" (Sare Ratoos Ree Boo) just like that. If she says no then go up to 150 k "Seratus, Lima puluh ribu" just like that. (this is also why it's important to get blue notes instead of red notes at the ATM. Use the machines with the Rp50,000 sticker on them). Anyways if she still says no then say 200 k duaratus ribu but don't just start out there right off the bat. That's going to give the girl all the leverage and you will miss out on paying less if she would have taken less. I was there for 2 months and found that many of them would accept 100 k or 150 k but some wanted 200 k or even more. The pretty Girl with the bow in her hair from terminal 5 for example, asks for 300 k. So you will find that there is not a set one price that they all accept for bbfscip.

Also about pictures do not offer 200 k for pictures as Werweq said. That is horrible advice. You can offer them extra money for pictures "uang ekstra" but don't go overboard with it. Something like 20 k or 30 k should be plenty. Often times I would take that staple out of the 35 k the mamasan gives you back for the change and give the girl the 30 k for taking a selfie and keep the 5 k for my exit payment.

Hope this helps.

Gabacho.

Source of information: Constantly going to Classic T2 and T5 in Nov and Dec 2024.

[NotConcerned]

I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.

I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).

Thanks for the feedback. Good to know. For some reason, I thought 200 k tip was the going rate for BBFS and CIP. Next time I will try a different sliding scale for sex and photos. It was a bit tough trying to negotiate all that with a translation app.

[Amadeuss]

KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.

You mean at Starmoon Bar.

https://maps.app.goo.gl/Bz9GEVGvDpVHRyKYA

[Werqweq]

I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.

After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.

Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.

I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.

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I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.

The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.

I don't have experience with paying for photos (maybe someone else here has? But you might try to tip in different way and see if that improves your results. 200 k is imo too much for what is more or less regular service. I tipped 100 k for that, and some of the more experienced brothers here said even that was too much.

I instead suggest you tell her that you will give her a 200 k tip if she lets you take the photos. If not, just give a normal tip if service was decent but not spectacular (50-100 k).

[XXL]

KI, not KL- Sari Ayu is a bar in North Jakarta, on Jl. Pangeran.

KI = kota indah, literaly "beautiful town". It is called "komplex" I guess because it is made up of several venues that belong together. You access kota indah through a major thoroughfare called "pangeran jayakarta" (literaly "jayakarta prince"). The taxi will prefer to stop on pangeran jayakarta for you to walk the last 100 m, rather than drive into the alleys of the komplex.

[FriendlyPlanet]

Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.

KI, not KL- Sari Ayu is a bar in North Jakarta, on Jl. Pangeran.

[Gabacho]

Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.

He didn't mention KL (Kuala Lumpur) he mentioned KI (Kota Indah)​and specifically Sari Ayu which is one of the larger bars in the Kota Indah compleks which is in north Jakarta.

I've never been to Malaysia but I met alot of Malaysians when I was in Jakarta who were there to monger in classic. Also reading the forums in the Malaysia section show that Kuala Lumpur is garbage compared to Jakarta.

-Gabacho.

[HolaaaaHiiii]

Chindo is a thing I hear. Has anybody seen Chinese looking girls in Classic or the likes.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I've been in Jakarta for a month and am treated well enough I don't care to go anywhere else, especially Bali. I'm pretty popular with certain locals but as I hang out up North (West), I'm starting to see more attractive pale women on the street and can't tell if they are available or not. Locals tell me they are Chinese, but these are real stunners and seem snobby. Can anyone shed light on these seemingly high class girls and what their jig is? I saw a tall busty 6'2" model type with hair down her back dressed down rather casually walk out of a nail salon and the worker there said she was from Thailand. Another one popped out of a streetside lingerie stand late at night. Supposebly this was in a red light district but she didn't seem the least bit friendly. Are these imported girls working at the clubs or what? I'll have to go check Club 36 and 1001 to see if they match up. There's also a tall girl selling 20 k juices dressed sexy and overly flirty roaming around at night but she turned me down in an instant!

Where are you talking about exactly? Near Mangga Basar or further north in the PIK area? The latter is known as the 'new Chinatown' where a lot of wealthy Chinese Indonesians are living now.

[NotConcerned]

I've been to Jakarta many times pre-pandemic. I had never found anything to my liking but after reading reports here, I wanted to try out Classic Hotel. The price seemed unbeatable and I was willing to tip more for a few things I wanted.

Long report. Tl; dr Classic hotel was good. I got what I wanted. 365 k + 200 k tips for both nights, BBFS and CIP. No issues with the girl. Great deal.

Some background (or skip ahead if you want just the report):

To start, I'm late-30's East Asian guy and athletic looking and live in the West. I'm also on PrEP and tested regularly. I've been to many sex places throughout SE Asia, been mostly playing in Bangkok these days, I have a few regulars there. That said, I was optimistic and hopeful about Jakarta based on the reports here and was eager to try things out.

Based on what I've read, I was set on 2 things: 1) bareback sex with CIP, I have a thing for creampies. I also don't like condoms. I haven't used one in years. Of course, I was going to ask the girl for consent. If she refused, I was willing to tip. If she refused the tip, my 2nd option was to play out some of my kinks and fetishes: 2) teasing, kissing, oral, pussy eating, edging and orgasm denial. I also had some sex toys with me. Basically if the girl didn't want to have bareback raw sex then I would rather have a playful teasing session instead.

Friday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).

Arrived at 7 PM Friday night. Went up 2 sets of escalators to the bar. There were around 75-100 girls scattered all around the venue. I would say the girls were all under 30, skinny and slender looking but they all smoked. I would say they rated 6 to 8 out of 10 based on looks.

Around 60% of the tables taken. Customers were mostly mid-40's to mid-50's Asian men. They looked to be 70 local and 30 foreign based on the interactions (language fluency and hand gestures). I did not see a single white foreigner.

There was live music and karaoke until 930 PM and then the DJ started playing.

When I arrived, mamasan recommended a few girls to me. I didn't want to be rushed so I kind of batted them away. Mamasan came back a few minutes later with just a single girl. Her name was Eva, short at 5 ft2, she had pretty makeup, decent boobs, and looked like a university student. She was a smoker and had mediocre teeth. I didn't reject her and just let her stay next to me. She spoke no English. Had to rely on a translation app to communicate.

After 15 min later, I took pity on her and decided to fuck. Got a room, paid 365 K to mamasan and we went downstairs to a room.

We kissed immediately in the room, she started to open up and didn't really have any hesitations. She held a condom in her hand and I took it away and said "no condom". She said "why" and I just said "I give you tip. " She quickly agreed. Things were looking good.

We stripped. She had darker skin than I was expecting but not a dealbreaker. I showered first then she washed herself. Then got to bed, full GFE, lots of body contact, licking and teasing. I didn't make her give me BJ, that's not really my thing. I did go DATY and ate her pussy for a while then made her sit on me. She had a moderately 2-week old hairy but delicious pussy. I don't mind hairy pussies. She enjoyed the oral I gave her.

After getting her all wet, I got on top of her and fucked her. She was not as tight as I was expecting. And I'm just average size. We fucked for 5 minutes or so until I came inside her. I had a 2 week load, so I came fast. Watched the cum leak out and then I ate the creampie for a while. Then showered.

Only negative was that there was no post-sex cuddle. I also tried to take photos but she refused and I didn't press. She had a good personality despite no English. She later told me she was from Bandung and had a daughter there.

I gave her 200 k tip. When we got back to the bar, she gave 50 k to mamasan. Overall, I achieved what I wanted, so it was a good experience and would repeat.

I wanted to fuck her again but I was jetlagged and tired. By 930 PM once the DJ started playing, I tapped out. I told the girl I would come back the next day.

Saturday night. Classic Hotel 2/ F (late February).

Returned the next night at 8 PM. There were more girls than the previous night. Probably over* 100 girls, same look as before. Around 80% of the tables taken. Customers were a bit more diverse but still around 70 local and 30 foreigners. They were younger 30 to 50 years old, some even in their 20's and lots of groups. Foreigners included mostly Chinese and Korean, but I saw a group of 4 white guys and 1 black guy with an Asian friend.

Mamasan wanted to recommend girls to me but I said right away I was looking for Eva again. First mamasan had no idea who that was. I walked around and didn't see her. I found another mamasan who knew her and waited a few minutes for her to come out from the back.

I had a drink with her before we went down to a room. 365 k again to mamasan. This time in the room things were a bit more relaxed. We did mostly the same as the stuff we did last night but she didn't get as wet as before.

I had a hard time penetrating her. I had lube but I wanted her to get naturally wet. It was an on and off 5-10 min of trying to get hard and trying to penetrate her bareback. Did some missionary then doggystyle then missionary before I came inside her again. Ate the creampie. I wanted to take pics of her creampie but she refused again. I thought now that we had a rapport she would be receptive, but no big deal. No post-sex cuddle, just washed up and then tipped her 200 k again.

The phone rang right when we finished putting clothes on. It seems like the 1-hour is not from the time you enter the room but from the time you pay. So in reality, you only get around 45 min inside.

I didn't have the energy to fuck again, so I left shortly after at 10 PM.

I only spent 2 nights in Jakarta but will return in a few months. I really liked the place and price. The only thing I didn't like was all the smoking but that's unavoidable in Jakarta. I also wish there was a system or separate area for people who want to return later and not have to hang out at the bar (I don't drink or party). Ideally, I'd like a place where I could go fuck in the afternoon then return later in the evening to fuck again without all the drinking, smoking, mamasan hassle.

[HolaaaaHiiii]

I'm not in Jakarta at the moment. But I have the WhatsApp of one of the mammies of Sari Ayu, KI. She frequently posts the current line up in her WhatsApp status. She just posted pictures of 85 girls. This is close to the maximum number she ever posted. I guess if KI is up and running, classic should be too. Go out and have fun!

Apologies for asking it here but given KL was mentioned. 85 girls are great. How are the looks and costs compared to Jakarta? I actually live in Singapore and it's way easier to go to KL haha.

[Terry88]

I've been in Jakarta for a month and am treated well enough I don't care to go anywhere else, especially Bali. I'm pretty popular with certain locals but as I hang out up North (West), I'm starting to see more attractive pale women on the street and can't tell if they are available or not. Locals tell me they are Chinese, but these are real stunners and seem snobby. Can anyone shed light on these seemingly high class girls and what their jig is? I saw a tall busty 6'2" model type with hair down her back dressed down rather casually walk out of a nail salon and the worker there said she was from Thailand. Another one popped out of a streetside lingerie stand late at night. Supposebly this was in a red light district but she didn't seem the least bit friendly. Are these imported girls working at the clubs or what? I'll have to go check Club 36 and 1001 to see if they match up. There's also a tall girl selling 20 k juices dressed sexy and overly flirty roaming around at night but she turned me down in an instant!

[Safado70]

Does anybody know if the quantity of girls has gone down drastically?
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I'm not in Jakarta at the moment. But I have the WhatsApp of one of the mammies of Sari Ayu, KI. She frequently posts the current line up in her WhatsApp status. She just posted pictures of 85 girls. This is close to the maximum number she ever posted. I guess if KI is up and running, classic should be too. Go out and have fun!