Sao Paulo Reports

[Anaggie]

Four visits during my time here. Had a great time partying at night on Wednesday and Thursday night with SocratesNY and my harem from the last trip. Ended up taking two new ones for the first two nights and the just kept two till Sunday so I could have variety in demand 😜.

Came in Monday afternoon before my flight and SocratesNY convinced me to change my flight so we could party one more night (wasn't very hard to at that point of the day high as fuck and slightly drunk) and party we did 🤣. Back again on Tuesday as I write this but going to take it easy tonight.

Prices are staying the same 800-1000 R for an hour here and 2000 R for an overnight. I don't negotiate hard anymore. I just tell them what I am willing to pay and that is that. The girls know we are regular gringos and they have seen us a few times around plus we know all the waiters and bouncers so that helps in the negotiations. Again, YMMY.

Really no point in getting numbers and trying to get them outside the club. They aren't going to come out for cheaper and they know what you're trying to pull. Just like all the other fucking Brazilians trying the same thing. Enjoy your time in the club with its awesome laid back luxury atmosphere, tons of hot women dressed elegantly and a party waiting to happen if you are willing to let it flow!

Sunday night we hit up Casarao and it was the same as the last time I went. Much lower quality of girls and the overall venue. Did take one home for an overnight who was cute but nothing great.

Stayed at my regular hotel — Renaissance and it worked out well .. like the area and it is walkable to many restaurants and bars. Suite upgrades cleared beforehand and we had a nice suite with a total of three guests allowed. One night they checked the registrations of the girls and I had to add the third girl to SocratesNY’s room but after that, they didn’t say anything. They do charge a $45 per day extra guest fee.

Can't wait for my return trip!!

[Nounce]

The Palms.

The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girlsyou can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.

Unless things have changed, it sounds like Sharon because you get to pick 3 and the ts option. The live presentation is giving you a chance to interview the girl. You could avoid the CBJ if you wanted.

[TattooedTuna]

Finally getting around to writing this after a busy month dealing with personal matters. I won't repeat what's already covered extensively on the forums—just sharing some key takeaways as a first-timer.

Accommodations.

I stayed in Moema & Vila Mariana, trying three hotels:

Wyndham Ibirapuera Convention Plaza Hotel.

Mercure São Paulo Moema Times Square.

Mercure São Paulo Grand Plaza Paulista.

All were GF-friendly and well-located, but airport noise in Moema is no joke. Compared to the Wyndham, the Mercure Moema Times Square was the better choice.

Clinicas.

The Palms.

The girl insisted on CBJ (the only one I got all trip), which was odd, but she was hot. Upon arrival, the front desk hands you an iPad to browse available girls—you can pick three for a live presentation. They also have TS options if that's your thing.

Moema Prime / 57 Friends.

Girls are presented in person, but nothing caught my eye, so I didn't session.

Miruna.

You sit on a couch, and each girl introduces herself with a name and a cheek kiss. After the lineup, the receptionist asks who you'd like. Quality was solid.

Clubs.

Casarão.

Enter through the right-side door—bouncer pats you down and checks ID. Inside, present your credit card, get a drink ticket, and proceed into the main area. Spot a girl you like? Smile or wave her over to negotiate. Sessions happen at the adjacent hotel, but you can return for more fun afterward. I took one girl overnight to my hotel for are $700, and she was amazing.

Scandallo Lounge.

Similar setup to Casarão but far more upscale—better ambiance, hotter girls, and higher prices. The big difference? The hotel rooms are inside the building, so everything happens on-site.

Pro Tip: Save Scandallo for the end of your trip. If you go too early, other places might feel underwhelming afterward.

SIM Card.

Got an eSIM from TIM at Ibirapuera Shopping Center (3rd floor) with just my passport. Important: Ask them to disable autopay to avoid next-month charges.

[HiddenEye]

Very nice beach spot Guaruja-Santos, perfect transportation. There is a metro station in SP Jabaquara that connects the bus terminal.

I haven't mongered there, but when I got to Santos a Sunday morning around 10 am, there was a very broad street with lots of bars and people still in heavy party at 10 am. So debauchery is assured.

The beauty on the beach was interesting. Paulistans arriving at the beach to enjoy a weekend, warm sea, being a winter morning. Brazil.

If anyone interested on my videos / pics of spots and more, feel free to drop me a pm. As you can see I have a solid photo / video archive dating from the early 2000's.

Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?

[BusinessTravl]

Have anyone mongered in Santos? Any tips to share from that place?

[BusinessTravl]

Thanks a lot for some great reports! Very useful as I will soon travel to Braz for the first time. Will definitely check out Scandallo. How is talent in May? Will try collect numbers.

[SocratesNY]

Thanks a lor Socrates! Outstanding job. I will be in SP the First week of June a report Will follow, also First week of December.

In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?

June might be a bit slower at Scandallo as it's Brazilian winter. Some of the girls will be traveling.

1st week of December should be normal or rocking as girls want to make that holiday paper.

But SP and Scandallo in particular is so big, that even at its "low", it's incredible.

I recall when my boys and I first visited during the pandemic. There was a 9 pm curfew and the disco and big outdoor terrace wasn't even open. The first impression we had was still WOW! And we are all experienced hobbyist having mongered all over the world. If Scandallo at 30-40% strength was that good. Imagine how it is now at 80%. I say 80%, as colleagues and locals say it was even better pre pandemic.

[SocratesNY]

Would I be OK with English and intermediate Spanish in Brazil? Would I be able to communicate well with the girls? Do you speak Portugese?

I speak beginner Portuguese. I really should be more fluent considering how many times and days I've been in Brazil the past 5 yesrs. But I don't practice much when at home as I am too busy. I am also spoiled as all my co workers speak English and they act as translators when needed.

I can understand more than I can speak and I get by with speaking Portuanol. Half Spanish and half Portuguese.

But the first few years, I used mostly translator in Scandallo. The girls I met are usually patient and familiar with its usage.

Some guys don't want to put the effort into using it or find it awkward or felt shame using it. I didn't. It just depends on how much effort you put forward.

I've spent 24-48 hours with countless girls where 80% of our conversation was with Google translate. We would go out to dinner, clubbing, do tourist stuff etc.

Google translate conversation mode is especially powerful in a quiet environment like your hotel room. You can just leave it on auto and carry a pretty fluid conversation. As long as both parties don't speak too much at once and they wait for the translation to finish and speak after the beep.

With that said, does it help if you speak fluent Portuguese? Of course. In many cases, they are more relaxed and comfortable. But you can get them into that mood if you are charismatic, treat them with respect, etc.

[Nounce]

Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price.

This post has little to do with sex. I was trekking in Patagonia recently. I met 3 different brazileiras on different occasions. One is born in Northern Europe and we stayed in the same room in a hostel right near the trail head. At that time, I did not know her mother is Brazilian. In the evening she came up to me like a kid telling me "We set our alarm clock at 2 AM" to go hiking at 3 AM. They were 2 of them in my room. She then invited me to go with them. I did not eat dinner and just went to bed like them so I can get enough sleep. It turned out to be a trip of the lifetime. I can only tell you what my friend told me after seeing the photos I took is that we arrived at the golden hour. Brazillians can be extremely warm even to strangers. The other two girls I met were similarly friendly. She asked about my travel plan and that was when she told me her mother is from Brazil when I mentioned Brazil. I thought that explains why she was so friendly.

I cropped out the million dollar view on purpose. Haha.

Before I went to Patagonia, I met this one on the street. She claimed to be a college student needing money. She said she would do anything I want but then told me the sex would be covered later or just the first time. I did not like the lie. She behaved somewhat like a working girl but I think she is not because where could she find work? We were oing to have sex once before but she brough a friend and her friend would hide in my bathroom so she won't interfere. I refused. This used to happen regularly in the city where I live in US. Many college students would come to work during weekend to make money or to experience life and they would share a hotel room.

[SocratesNY]

Completely agree about being far away for the action, except it's next door to the Gauguin Club. I wouldn't stay there for that reason, but I would definitely visit the Gauguin Club if you're staying at the Sheraton.

I was staying at the Grand Hyatt, which is also very close to Gaughin and the main reason my friends and I stopped by. We spent about an hour there and decided to head over to Scandallo and the talent level was night and day. As it was Wednesday night.

[SocratesNY]

In your experience is there a month / s when you don't recommend Scandallo or to make It easier when its absolutely most recommended during the year? Of course weather can be a factor?

It depends on what your preferences are. Some prefer a less crazy or crowded time, while others prefer it.

Generally, there are more girls and hotter girls from September / October to / May / June.

The reason is mainly two fold. 1) Summer time in the US and Europe is Brazilian winter so it's colder in Brazil 2) Many of the hotter girls travel between May and September to Europe where weather is nicer. It can be on their own dime or as arm candy for rich clients. Other girls choose this time to work overseas as more tourists are traveling to Europe, ME or Asia during US summer months.

Also it's wild at Scandallo during F1 week in November as well as NFL week in September.

[HiddenEye]

Hello comrades,

I have already mentioned before I use to rent rooms for long stays in shared houses called "republicas". Not the ones in downtown but very close to universities. It's a fantastic cultural experience as you may imagine because you can interact with locals, mostly civilian workers, students, cops, escorts, teachers, etc. In their daily lives. The rooms have a monthly reasonable price. I paid are R2000 for the month with private bathroom they call "suite" hahaha very funny.

Well, most of the houses will let you bring visits but you have to announce them with the owner of the house. The last time I stayed almost one month in a Republica and behaved very well, until the very last night I decided to break the rules hehehehe.

So, I arrenged with two gorgeous brunettes, one of them I met in Bomboa and we had very good chemestry. In order not to bring too much attention we scheluded our encounter very late a Wednesday night, around midnight. The girls arrived in the car of the brunette from Bomboa, we talked a few minutes inside the car where she introduced me to her friend. We kissed in the back seat while I was checking the merch my friend was bringin for me. It was good flesh and dick went inmediately hard. Then I checked the lights of the house to be turned off in most of the rooms. Everything looked safe and sound so we entered the house walking like cats trying not to make any noise.

To get to my room we first must walk through a patio where there are chairs and tables where people of the house talk, smoke, make barbecues or do their stuff. A shared area. When I went to receive the girls there was nobody in this patio, but when walking back ten minutes later, hand in hand with two girls in high heels and very tight jeans, dressed not too bitchy fortunately, there are 3 young guys talking and drinking beers in one of the tables. Those guys were policemen hahahaha already in civilian clothes, shorts and flip flops (havaianas).

You can imagine how those guys looked at us and all the things they said when they saw us walking the long corridor of rooms till the end and finally turning to the left. They were cheering like it was a soccer game! The girls were laughing of course. Brazilians are just like that, nice people (gente boa).

It was an awesome threesome in my room. I paid each girl $R1500 and invited a sandwich after our little party (festinha). As a matter of fact, they call it festinha when you make a threesome or an orgy. I paid a bit more because I made them wear toys and customs I purchased. You can see one of the girls with a clown nose. I'm a fetish guy hehehehe and girls love it! one of them had such a powerful orgasm while wearing that mask.

I left Sao Paulo the day after and I didn't have to share the kitchen this time. I'm sure everyone would have mentioned that I brought two expensive GPS (garotas de programa) to the house. I spent more with the two girls than the monthly rent of the room. And the policemen knew it.

The owner of the house didn't say a thing, because I'm sure he watched everything in the recorded video from security cams hahahaha those houses have cams in every shared area.

I'll be back of course.

[SocratesNY]

I suspect those prices are in brasilian reals?

I know I wrote a lot. But the FIRST paragraph of my FIRST post (of 2) states.

Note: All mentions of money are in Brazilian Real, unless denoted by USD.

It is also best to not quote ALL of a long post during a reply, but just the relevant parts.

[Lalabo]

Is there a way to get the write ups below by Socrates to be put on the top of this thread as a sticky that newbies can refer to without looking for this information?

AFAIK this site doesn't support stickies or pinning posts at the top of the thread like some forums do. One option is to highlight useful reports by adding it to "Reports of Distinction" (ROD). Reading RODs is the easiest and faster way to find most important and useful reports without reading through tons of pages.

[FFlintstone69]

I don't see any recent posts about the new Visa requirements from USA so I am trying but it won't let me upload my passport WTF.