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  1. #59624
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    The rest of my night was just OK. Had another drama moment after Aya, the girl I found outside Thermae at closing came all the way back to my condo. There we couldn't reach an agreement as to when I would pay. She was demanding payment before we began and I told her I could not do that. She packed up and walked out. I don't consider that a failure. Just the time cost of doing business as a monger.
    Good choice. Freelancers (except fiwfans and possibly a few other thai-centric places), go-go girls and bar-girls are always pay-after in Thailand. Anything else should bring up a red flag, and somebody insisting on getting paid first after already having gone back with you, lots of red flags.

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]

    Went right back to outside Thermae and found Dee (I was half wondering if she was a ladyboy (I asked and she denied). Just a certain facial structure, a little tall, hands medium sized, but thin boned, no adams apple. Unfortunately none of these features fully rule anything in or out. I have no doubt of my abilities to confirm yay or nay anatomically down below though. I won't elaborate but I am sure.

    Well a new round of negotiation began in the midst. Wanted extra 500 for BBBJ. I didn't broach the topic before we started, a mistake.
    Unlike some sucky countries, BJ is by default without condom in Thailand, and the onus is on the girl to say if it's not in her very particular case. I've never bothered to confirm that with any p4p-girl in Thailand, and nobody has ever asked me to use a condom for BJ either. Not sure how the dudes here manage to find all these crazy thai girls.

    If a girl insisted on covered BJ, I'd promptly cancel the session without pay, and recommend anyone else does the same. Paying extra for stuff like that will turn Thailand into one of those sucky countries (I live in one now) where you have to confirm all sorts of stuff before going with the p4p-girl.

    If you've already been banging her for half an hour before you suggest she puts her lip on your dick, and she at that point insists you continue with a condom, you're obviously shit out of luck and have to pay her the agreed price. But if not, and you have any reason to worry she will bring out a condom for BJ, start with a BJ before any other sexual activities. Then just cancel politely and with a fake smile if she does not want to do that.

  2. #59623

    Update

    The rest of my night was just OK. Had another drama moment after Aya, the girl I found outside Thermae at closing came all the way back to my condo. There we couldn't reach an agreement as to when I would pay. She was demanding payment before we began and I told her I could not do that. She packed up and walked out. I don't consider that a failure. Just the time cost of doing business as a monger. Better to demand quality and miss a few shots. (I did break that rule once here yes, a gamble, but it went OK.).

    Went right back to outside Thermae and found Dee (I was half wondering if she was a ladyboy (I asked and she denied). Just a certain facial structure, a little tall, hands medium sized, but thin boned, no adams apple. Unfortunately none of these features fully rule anything in or out. I have no doubt of my abilities to confirm yay or nay anatomically down below though. I won't elaborate but I am sure.

    Well a new round of negotiation began in the midst. Wanted extra 500 for BBBJ. I didn't broach the topic before we started, a mistake. Had no amount to which she would agree to BBFS. Anyways it was all just ok, not great. She was "too sensitive" for much touching her pussy, much less any oral. I got enough of a feel to be quite certain though. I was able to confirm even further when the condom ended up coming off and getting lost in her vaginal vault! I told her don't worry and gently recovered it, in the process feeling a definite cervix. Not a ladyboy. Anyways kinda just meh. Wasn't really tolerating even full penetration. Definitely would not repeat with her, but yet another sexual encounter with a pretty fricken' hot girl, just service pretty average to below average. Paid the agreed 3000 + the desperation agreed to mid-session 500 for BBBJ. Yes a slip up on my part. Didn't tip.

    Next day, I got a good rest that morning, spent several hrs at Chatuchak weekend market amidst a sea of Chinese tourists, then slept again, deciding I would just take 1 day off. Well I was up by midnight, then roaming around again. Ended up realizing I was feeling extremely lazy and just wanted a massage and BJ. WhatsApp to some outcall massage services at 4 AM. One responded and I was sent a lineup of pics and we set up a time. This business is not overtly erotic per their website and menu. I said I wanted "massage and special" (a term I learned here). They said I would need to work out extras with the girl.

    Hana (https://similanthaimassage.com/outcall/hana/64) came to my room, probably early 30's, not a hardbody but nice shape, cute face, definitely matched the pics I was sent. I think I would definitely have opted for FS with her but she said her menu only included HJ or BJ. She made a few comments about my package (I am only slightly above the statistical average size though, so whatever). I am not sure if she took FS off the menu. OK, chose BJ and to my pleasant surprise this consisted of BBBJCIM no swallow. Above average skill. No talk about price or condom at all. Nice. Still, afterwards felt pricy. The base massage price was 1400. She told me 2000 extra for the BJ (after the deed). OK fine, paid her and she left. No tip because it felt a little steep. But admittedly I didn't ask beforehand so that's on me. I would have preferred some erotic element and teasing during the massage but she sort of compartmentalized the massage and "special" afterwards.

    So the clock is ticking. Only 2 more days. Definitely will try another MP or 2. I think maybe I should try TF at least one more time. There's a Thermae girl I am kicking myself for not talking to. She had a GND vibe and gave me a smile for a distance. I was too shy that night. I will see if I can find her. There's a very attractive, light skinned Kenyan SW I keep seeing too. One of the hardest things here is opportunity cost. There are a finite number shots and endless opportunities.

  3. #59622
    Quote Originally Posted by StillFun  [View Original Post]
    Sunday night after arriving in Bangkok from a long haul flight I went out along Sukhumvit from Nana end eastwards looking for a girl. I vaguely remember talking to someone and I have this barely a memory in my head of thinking 'why am I not taking her to my hotel? But this could be a false memory. Anyway next thing I remember coming too outside sat down somewhere about 4 am. I don't even remember where. It took me about 2 hours to get back to my hotel at 6 am though I don't think I walked that far. But I did sit drinking a cold drink from an all night shop for about an hour after I came to. Anyway what is strange and good is I had still had my phone, both my cards (nothing debited) but about 4000 baht missing from my wallet though about 200 were left in it. I can make little sense of the whole. I am just counting my blessings. Any thoughts?
    Sounds like you were drugged and robbed.

  4. #59621
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranvir226  [View Original Post]
    Planning 3 nights stay in Nana. Looking for hotel with daily charges upto 50 USD.
    I've stayed at Majestic Suites many times. It's ok. Good staff. Just around the corner from Nana.

    https://www.majesticsuites.com/

  5. #59620
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    I like that move. Will give it a try.

    Well tonight hasn't been great. Trying to simmer down so I am drinking a sprite at Mickey Dee's and writing.

    Connected with a Vietnamese SW where they seem to congregate (across from the gross 7-11). She was cutish, big tits, probably early 30's. She didn't blow me away though. We agreed to go to the ST hotel next to 7-11. She quoted 2000 and I said 1500. She started to fuss and I just started to pull back and away. So she agrees.

    All is well in room until she starts trying to renegotiate. Eye rollll. At least I refused to pay ahead of time (as preached here). Then she begins BJ with a literal death grip. Rather unpleasant. I explained it didn't feel good. Please just mouth. Well she was very insistent that it had to be her way and carried on. After going back and forth about it for a bit, I decided to abort. Told her I'd give her 500 but I'm leaving. She just said "fine. ".

    It was pretty heated for a few moments. My vibe is not good. I will walk for a while. Almost agreed with another SW but just before getting in tuk tuk I tried to confirm BBBJ. She seemed almost horrified LOL. I aborted that too. Not really feeling her. It may not be the girls. Maybe I am just tired.

    Back to the hunt.
    If you check back on previous posts you'll see the reviews of those VIET girls tend to be largely negative not only for the sort of experiences you had.

  6. #59619
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranvir226  [View Original Post]
    Planning 3 nights stay in Nana. Looking for hotel with daily charges upto 50 USD. Nana hotel, worburi, boss suites, I was contemplating but did not find of my liking. Can any brother suggest a good option in the price range please. Thanks in advance.
    For Value, less than $20 my go to is Orchid Inn. In that lane where Nana girls go for short time. Maybe you get a FreeBee we so often hear about because you hansum and charming.

  7. #59618
    Quote Originally Posted by Ranvir226  [View Original Post]
    Planning 3 nights stay in Nana. Looking for hotel with daily charges upto 50 USD. Nana hotel, worburi, boss suites, I was contemplating but did not find of my liking. Can any brother suggest a good option in the price range please. Thanks in advance.
    The dawin hotel.

  8. #59617

    Hotel in nana

    Planning 3 nights stay in Nana. Looking for hotel with daily charges upto 50 USD. Nana hotel, worburi, boss suites, I was contemplating but did not find of my liking. Can any brother suggest a good option in the price range please. Thanks in advance.

  9. #59616

    Very thoughtful

    Quote Originally Posted by Lager  [View Original Post]
    On BBFS, I got an m. Gen infection last year that has run through $500-1000 and over 6 months of attempted treatment. It has probably caused some lasting damage as well. The symptoms resemble the clap except it is resistant to the most common antibiotics. The treatments that do have 60+% efficacy on it are powerful floxies and antibiotics that are much harder on the body than the standard doxycycline. I am not telling anyone not to BBFS since I honestly don't really care, but if you do, then think twice about fucking a wg in Thailand without protection or at least use some PEP as it is gradually becoming endemic. Most women seem to have mild or unnoticeable symptoms and don't know they have it and combined with how difficult and expensive it is to kill it's hard not to see this becoming widespread in a few years here.

    Posting this because I've gradually seen BBFS become more mainstream over the mongering boards because of prep medication, but Prep doesn't help against this or super gon.
    I appreciate your thought. I second your thoughts. I vouch to stick to your thought. I am very thankful to your thoughts.

  10. #59615
    Quote Originally Posted by Lager  [View Original Post]
    On BBFS, I got an m. Gen infection last year that has run through $500-1000 and over 6 months of attempted treatment. It has probably caused some lasting damage as well. The symptoms resemble the clap except it is resistant to the most common antibiotics. The treatments that do have 60+% efficacy on it are powerful floxies and antibiotics that are much harder on the body than the standard doxycycline. I am not telling anyone not to BBFS since I honestly don't really care, but if you do, then think twice about fucking a wg in Thailand without protection or at least use some PEP as it is gradually becoming endemic. Most women seem to have mild or unnoticeable symptoms and don't know they have it and combined with how difficult and expensive it is to kill it's hard not to see this becoming widespread in a few years here.

    Posting this because I've gradually seen BBFS become more mainstream over the mongering boards because of prep medication, but Prep doesn't help against this or super gon.
    Exactly why I don't do BBFS. At my age a prolonged infection could cause other urinary tract issues such as irritating an already enlarged prostate. And yes these multi drug resistant infections are becoming way more prevalent. Supposedly 200 MG of doxy as pep is supposed to prevent 75% of infections, but I would doubt it would be effective against multidrug resistant bacteria.

  11. #59614

    Bad mojo tonight

    Quote Originally Posted by Werqweq  [View Original Post]
    just tell her while you're still outside, "you massage me, polite smile"
    I like that move. Will give it a try.

    Well tonight hasn't been great. Trying to simmer down so I am drinking a sprite at Mickey Dee's and writing.

    Connected with a Vietnamese SW where they seem to congregate (across from the gross 7-11). She was cutish, big tits, probably early 30's. She didn't blow me away though. We agreed to go to the ST hotel next to 7-11. She quoted 2000 and I said 1500. She started to fuss and I just started to pull back and away. So she agrees.

    All is well in room until she starts trying to renegotiate. Eye rollll. At least I refused to pay ahead of time (as preached here). Then she begins BJ with a literal death grip. Rather unpleasant. I explained it didn't feel good. Please just mouth. Well she was very insistent that it had to be her way and carried on. After going back and forth about it for a bit, I decided to abort. Told her I'd give her 500 but I'm leaving. She just said "fine. ".

    It was pretty heated for a few moments. My vibe is not good. I will walk for a while. Almost agreed with another SW but just before getting in tuk tuk I tried to confirm BBBJ. She seemed almost horrified LOL. I aborted that too. Not really feeling her. It may not be the girls. Maybe I am just tired.

    Back to the hunt.

  12. #59613
    On BBFS, I got an m. Gen infection last year that has run through $500-1000 and over 6 months of attempted treatment. It has probably caused some lasting damage as well. The symptoms resemble the clap except it is resistant to the most common antibiotics. The treatments that do have 60+% efficacy on it are powerful floxies and antibiotics that are much harder on the body than the standard doxycycline. I am not telling anyone not to BBFS since I honestly don't really care, but if you do, then think twice about fucking a wg in Thailand without protection or at least use some PEP as it is gradually becoming endemic. Most women seem to have mild or unnoticeable symptoms and don't know they have it and combined with how difficult and expensive it is to kill it's hard not to see this becoming widespread in a few years here.

    Posting this because I've gradually seen BBFS become more mainstream over the mongering boards because of prep medication, but Prep doesn't help against this or super gon.

  13. #59612
    Quote Originally Posted by JoshAllen  [View Original Post]
    There was a somewhat more demure girl in the back corner of the cluster of girls. She gave me a sweet look when I looked at her. I asked if I could go with her and all the girls said yes! Yes! I honestly am still figuring this shit out. A few times I went for a basic massage, but the cute girl outside handed me off to a hefty mamasan type inside. So I wasn't sure if these girls were just bait.
    Normal massage shops have an internal queue system, so the next customer is normally given to the next woman / girl in their queue, and often they take turns about who's sitting inside, though I don't doubt some are aware it's beneficial to have the more pretty ones sitting outside and take advantage of that. Anyway, you don't need to bother yourself with their internal queue. Just point out who you want to massage you, or even easier, just tell her while you're still outside, "you massage me, polite smile" like I do. Usually they'll repeat what you said somewhat loud to make it clear they're not trying to skip in line and get a customer ahead of who would normally have gotten him.

    Keep your reports coming.
    Last edited by Admin3; 05-03-25 at 18:37.

  14. #59611

    Smokin hot babes. I got lucky

    Quote Originally Posted by WintersLight  [View Original Post]
    Hey man, just wanted to say thanks for sharing all of your experiences. I've really enjoyed reading all the posts, great stuff.

    Good luck out there, how long is your trip?
    It's a 2 wk trip. I have tonight and 3 solid days left.

    I slowed down with the posting because things are sort of a blur. I have only been sleeping when absolutely necessary when my body just shuts down. I invariably fall asleep during each foot massage. I am experiencing some pretty intense exhaustion after my encounters with these women. I feel utterly drained. I am not really interested in a pharmacologic solution so I have resorted to trying to space things about 12 hrs apart if possible. So I have been sleeping like 2-3 hrs twice each 24 hrs, but little regularity or pattern. Yeah probably not healthy. Why sleep when I can walk around all night looking at the eye candy?

    Anyways in the past few days I have found some extremely attractive providers. Just blind luck really. The other night I was wandering up and down the main Sukhumvit drag. I tried "the walk" that is mentioned here but I am more of a cat and just wander. I like between the McDonalds near the Terminal 21 area all the way up to the Nana Plaza Road. I like Soi 11 - lots of people (girls) milling about in and out of bars, clubs, etc. And of course I like Sukhumvit 4 Alley on both sides up to about the 7-11 that always seems to have someone passed out on the pavement out front. I wish I could dredge up more areas of SWs in the forums. No time right now though.

    There are tons of ladyboys to sift through especially as the night grows longer. They're pretty obvious, but not all. I got my feelings hurt when a girl rebuffed me. Just said "I'm happy. " As in GTFO. But later I see her again and she is grinning and making a gesture near her crotch. I walk back over and ask hon, what does that mean. She said "I have dick. " Ohhhhhhh. I asked how did you know I didn't want it. "I saw you looking at girls. " Honestly these ladyboys as a whole are decent humans. Totally fucked in the head, but decent I would say.

    Anyways the other night I was sorta just not feeling it. Nothing really clicking. Nobody grabbing my interest. Then I just told myself JoshAllen, don't force it, don't stress. Things will work out. Literally 2 blocks later I am walking by one of these little pop up diners on the sidewalk with 2 tables and a cook serving food and beer. A girl is eating alone and looks up, sees me and smiles. This is like 50 feet from Thermae. Holy crap she is gorgeous and very petite. Face was top tier and very tight body. Had a kid but absolutely no signs of it in her physique (even naked). Very cool girl (Nam) - she asked me to sit and we chatted. Close to fully fluent in English. Turns out she goes to Thermae but I found her outside. She asks so what are you doing next? Ummm. I think I going with you to my place? Oh!. OK cool. And that was that. I won't call it a GFE but it was pretty damn good. Even chilled in bed chatting, goofing off, and cuddling before the act. Very sensual, some kissing, lots of tender touching throughout. That was nice. Had some BBBJ time. Had some DATY and she told me she wanted my fingers inside her please. Tried the "I'm good with no condom if you are" thing again but she was firm on it. Paid 2500.

    Last night I scoped a bunch of these lesser known (or talked about) MPs on Sukhumvit 24/1 Alley. There were a few really hot girls outside but I felt a little on the spot with like 30+ girls in that small area hollering etc. You come! I give you special massage! Everyting honey! I circled back around but the few I was really interested in weren't to be seen. I am going to check it out again. I ended up wandering down Sukhumvit Alley 22 which to me had an impressive array of options on the little side streets if you're the sort to take a chance on a lesser known random place. But as it turns out I ended up in front of a place I had seen mentioned (Honey Bee https://maps.app.goo.gl/VzN5CpLWsaZf4N588) and I must say I am very glad I went.

    There was a somewhat more demure girl in the back corner of the cluster of girls. She gave me a sweet look when I looked at her. I asked if I could go with her and all the girls said yes! Yes! I honestly am still figuring this shit out. A few times I went for a basic massage, but the cute girl outside handed me off to a hefty mamasan type inside. So I wasn't sure if these girls were just bait. Well, no, she was the real deal. Very Chinese-drama-looking girl, the word lithe sums it up for me. Dangerous beauty that could make me slip up. All I can say is her massage felt like a seduction and I was truly under her spell. She knew exactly what she was doing. It wasn't perfect because everything was covered. But eh, still a very satisfying experience. Her name is Nikki, but if you can believe it, she is moving up north for good in like 7 days! Ouch! This is a serious loss for BKK. Paid 2500 for 60 min FS oil massage.

    Then today I thought about Doki Doki but I was closer to Peach https://maps.app.goo.gl/NJNxN8UahDDm6xb78 so I decided to stroll by. I had heard that weekend talent can be more sparse at the MPs. Well I go to the 7-11 across the street to creep on the MP. I see that there are 2 girls out front. 1 looks OK. The other has good long hair but I can't see her. I loop around, walking right by and take a look. Well this girl sees me and is enthusiastically waving me down. I guess it's slow business because I am just an average dude with a dad bod (but yeah I know it's all about the wallet). Holy crap she is hot. I picked her for 60 minute oil massage, FS, 2000 baht. Service was decent. A little formulaic. Very friendly girl, super easy on the eyes, very long, slender bod with MMs and an absolutely perfect ass. Everything covered again. That is getting a little disappointing. Anyways I will say overall a positive experience due to hotness level, and the service was decent, but the everything covered thing is not for me, so I guess I'm getting a little cranky. On that note I didn't tip her!

    So which is better, my 6. 5/10 semi-thick girl that allowed BBBJ and BBFS? Or these super hot girls all covered? Hard to say. I enjoyed both. I keep forgetting to pick an average looking girl to see if better service.

    Despite all my pre-trip research about options and fussing with TF, I just don't want to spend a lot of time on that and Fwfans. I am not going to chase these girls down. Too much of pain when so much is directly available with an enjoyable walk outside my place. Also I doubt I will do Tded-99 or whatever it's called. It's pretty far. Bar girls and clubs not really my thing either. Don't drink and my hearing sucks. Can't really converse well at clubs or bars. So far it's MPs and SWs for me. A few Thermae and TF encounters. Hell no not doing an escort service. Oh but my 2 outcall massages were excellent too. And god no I realized I have no interest in a civvie encounter / date / dinner thing. I am restless when the girl is waiting in my room for her Grab after 5 minutes.

  15. #59610
    Quote Originally Posted by JizzyB  [View Original Post]
    Taken services from 4 ladies in the picture. IYKYK.
    Love this place. I see #1 and #55 are still there from Dr. BJs. Letter P uuffff those tits and lips.

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