General Info

[Gabacho]

I recently made a mistake posting some pictures of some women I had sessioned with at classic. I thought since I blurred out their eyes that it would be okay but apparently it wasn't. Please guys don't post pictures of working girls, maybe freelancers is one thing but if they work at a club, you never know who will end up seeing it and what repercussions it may have. So take my advice and refrain from posting pictures even if they are blurred or redacted.

Gabacho.

[Cowboy Bebop]

IMHO, it is more important to benchmark considering what was experienced than simply what was paid.

Unfortunately, my current financial circumstances encourages me to focus heavily on price as a primary metric for "value for money".

My current goal is to travel to places where I can have reliable access to women, while sticking to a daily budget of <$150 USD.

Reliable access = preferably 2-3 sessions per day.

Women = 18-24 year old, 35-45 kilos, tight kitty, face not too ugly, slim physique, A cup.

Budget = $130-$150 USD that covers the daily cost of women, hotel, food, internet.

Sounds like Jakarta might fit the bill, but maybe I should also look at these "exotic venues in Laos and Myanmar" that you mentioned.

[Goferring]

I'm also looking for options outside of Thailand and the Philippines, hoping to find better value for money. For example:

Jakarta. Lokasari MaBes area - - - 400 K short time + 100 K tip (500 K Indonesian Rupiah = $30.65 USD) - - - Sparks Life hotel ($18 USD per night) - - - short-time hotel 110 K.

Nosy Be. Madagascar - - - 50 K short time + 10 K tip (60 K Malagasy Ariary = $13.10 USD) - - - Etoile Blanche beachfront hotel ($51 USD per night).

I'm hoping that language will not be a significant barrier and obstacle with the girls, because I can only speak to them in English (I don't speak Bahasa, Malagasy or French).

You talk about value, but your only measure is price. That is not value, which typically includes a potentially endless list of subjective attributes (youth, beauty, services offered, etc, etc). If you want the cheapest fucks, then I can suggest exotic venues in Laos and Myanmar, but do you care about convenience, comfort and safety? I am guessing you have subjective standards. IMHO, it is more important to benchmark considering what was experienced than simply what was paid. Just like Mastercard advertises, some experiences are simply PRICELESS. See attached cutie from Kota.

Are you a boomer with a flip phone? Hopefully not. Consider to upskill to use Google Translate and you will have your own personal interpreter for every situation. You can even use embedded Google Lens to dynamically read signs, menus and other written materials. It is no longer a flex to have local language skills to order your ayam with nasi putih. When I am shopping for talent on Soi Nana in BKK, I can easily toggle between Thai, Viet, Uzbek, etc as it has become somewhat of a prostitution United Nations. In Indonesia, Translate works perfectly, but you need to know how to express yourself in simple terms to get the right meaning across. Enjoy, AR.

Besides face value one must also add in flights and my own time. I did look at some of Cowboy's suggestions previously and the additional costs blew out the dollar per shot dramatically.

I speak Bahasa and I can tell anyone that Google may be good and versatile but a few words of the local language can make all the difference. I tried the whole translator deal in Thailand and, man, it sucked big time. That's why it's a shame I don't speak Thai, Spanish, etc and why it's so easy in the Philippines.

Cheers. G.

[Asian Rain]

I'm also looking for options outside of Thailand and the Philippines, hoping to find better value for money.

You talk about value, but your only measure is price. That is not value, which typically includes a potentially endless list of subjective attributes (youth, beauty, services offered, etc, etc). If you want the cheapest fucks, then I can suggest exotic venues in Laos and Myanmar, but do you care about convenience, comfort and safety? I am guessing you have subjective standards. IMHO, it is more important to benchmark considering what was experienced than simply what was paid. Just like Mastercard advertises, some experiences are simply PRICELESS. See attached cutie from Kota.

I'm hoping that language will not be a significant barrier and obstacle with the girls, because I can only speak to them in English (I don't speak Bahasa, Malagasy or French).

Are you a boomer with a flip phone? Hopefully not. Consider to upskill to use Google Translate and you will have your own personal interpreter for every situation. You can even use embedded Google Lens to dynamically read signs, menus and other written materials. It is no longer a flex to have local language skills to order your ayam with nasi putih. When I am shopping for talent on Soi Nana in BKK, I can easily toggle between Thai, Viet, Uzbek, etc as it has become somewhat of a prostitution United Nations. In Indonesia, Translate works perfectly, but you need to know how to express yourself in simple terms to get the right meaning across. Enjoy, AR.

[Cowboy Bebop]

Guys, I'm comparison shopping for options outside of provincial Philippines......I'm currently spending 2000 PHP /600 k IDR in the provinces for all night and unlimited shots of BBBJ / BBFS with attractive semi pros and broke students. It's roughly double that in the Cebu and Manila..

I'm also looking for options outside of Thailand and the Philippines, hoping to find better value for money. For example:

Jakarta. Lokasari MaBes area - - - 400 K short time + 100 K tip (500 K Indonesian Rupiah = $30.65 USD) - - - Sparks Life hotel ($18 USD per night) - - - short-time hotel 110 K.

Nosy Be. Madagascar - - - 50 K short time + 10 K tip (60 K Malagasy Ariary = $13.10 USD) - - - Etoile Blanche beachfront hotel ($51 USD per night).

I'm hoping that language will not be a significant barrier and obstacle with the girls, because I can only speak to them in English (I don't speak Bahasa, Malagasy or French).

[Dickaprio]

So there is a third app for motorbikes now. It's called Maxim.

if you look at all the options and scroll down they have something called "Hemat Bike" (economical bike) and it charges only 9 k rupiah for the same exact route. Much cheaper than Gojek.

Hope this helps.

Gabacho.

First time hearing about Maxim app, thanks Gabacho for putting it out there. Have used Grab and Gojek, chiefly the latter in Indo.

Never noticed the 'Hemat Bike' option on Grab. Will check it out in the next visit. Learnt from the net that it's for shorter distances. But definitely a good option to explore. Cheers.

[Gabacho]

So there is a third app for motorbikes now. It's called Maxim. I haven't used it yet because I'm having trouble receiving an SMS text with an OTP to register my account. I have been using Gojek and Grab alot tho so this is a comparison of those two and the prices of all three.

Gojek has been my go to app for almost all my motorbike rides, however it doesn't always offer the best prices. To go from pasar baru to mangga besar I have been paying 14 k with Gojek lately, but Maxim offers the same route for 11 k, however it is actually Grab that has the best price. At first glance Grab looks more expensive especially for cars and the more expensive and standard bike options. But if you look at all the options and scroll down they have something called "Hemat Bike" (economical bike) and it charges only 9 k rupiah for the same exact route. Much cheaper than Gojek. I can make a roundtrip from pasar baru to mangga besar and back for only 18 k (a little more than a dollar) with the Grab Hemat Bike option which is only 4 k (or 25 ¢ usd) more than one way with Gojek.

So I suggest everyone to download all three of these apps Gojek, Grab, and Maxim and check to see which one has the best price for your route.

Hope this helps.

Gabacho.

[Goferring]

Guys, I'm comparison shopping for options outside of provincial Philippines.

Jakarta is known for its low budget options at Classic, Hotel etc but I would rather stab my eyes out than spend my entire holiday trapped there.

I'm currently spending 2000 PHP /600 k IDR in the provinces for all night and unlimited shots of BBBJ / BBFS with attractive semi pros and broke students. It's roughly double that in the Cebu and Manila.

Post shutdown and virus, is this a price range that will be acceptable in regional Java, Bali or Sumatra? My only comparison was Jakarta years ago and then a pretty girl was expecting several juta for the full night.

I like to think I've got the language skills and travel experience to not appear as a total noob to the girls and get charged the applicable skin tax. It's just a long time since I've been there and worked with current prices.

Cheers. G.

[Gabacho]

One more reason to do the eVisa online.

The eVisa online is the way to go.

[Banana Boi]

Terrible exchange rate. Carry exact change in dollars

Carry exact change of 35 USD or 40 USD. If you give a 100 USD bill then they will give you back the rest 60 USD back in Rupiah with a terrible exchange rate.

Maybe my numbers are off for current rates but I'm not following the above. My Google search shows current VOA is 35 USD or 500 k Rupiah. It also shows that 500 k Rupiah is 30.27 USD. Even if you pay 'exact change' of 35 USD you are paying nearly 5 USD more than you need to.

I always pay in Rupiah since I always have a ton leftover from my previous trip.

[XXL]

USD (and I assume Euro) are accepted but expect a VERY poor exchange rate. At least that was my experience the one and only time I didn't use Rupiah.

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One more reason to do the eVisa online.

[Metso]

USD (and I assume Euro) are accepted but expect a VERY poor exchange rate. At least that was my experience the one and only time I didn't use Rupiah.

For eSim I use Airalo Regional when I'm hopping around Asian countries for a month. Don't need to swap eSIM in and out for each country. Never had an issue.

Carry exact change of 35 USD or 40 USD. If you give a 100 USD bill then they will give you back the rest 60 USD back in Rupiah with a terrible exchange rate.

[Banana Boi]

Do they only accept Rupiah's for the payment of the VoA? Or also USD or EUR?

USD (and I assume Euro) are accepted but expect a VERY poor exchange rate. At least that was my experience the one and only time I didn't use Rupiah.

For eSim I use Airalo Regional when I'm hopping around Asian countries for a month. Don't need to swap eSIM in and out for each country. Never had an issue.

[Jingo10]

I have a dual sim phone, with only one physical sim card slot. So a second sim can only be an e-sim, unless I remove the physical sim (which I'd rather not do).
I can find several e-sim options for Indonesia online, but which one is recommended?

I recently got one through klook, I only needed a small amount of data and it was 3 USD using telkomsel.

You don't get a phone number though.

One benefit is you don't have to provide all your passport details and phone IMEI like when you buy a physical SIM.

[Mogwai]

I have a dual sim phone, with only one physical sim card slot. So a second sim can only be an e-sim, unless I remove the physical sim (which I'd rather not do).
I can find several e-sim options for Indonesia online, but which one is recommended?