American Politics

[MarquisdeSade1]

The dumbest human to ever be allowed to sit at the desk in the Oval Office, Donald J. Trump, is scrambling in all directions in a desperate attempt to at least get back to where Obama had gotten with Iran's nuclear status before he, Donald J. Trump, stupidly abandoned it. And all while a War between two nuclear powers, India and Pakistan, escalates to a degree that "never wouda' happened on Obama's watch or Biden's watch or Hillary's watch."

Iran, US conclude 4th round of talks over Tehran's nuclear program.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/11/iran...ndroidappshare

The Repub / Trump 2nd Term Historic Disaster race is on!

What will be the order of Trump's most likely achievements?

A Great Repub Recession / Depression first?

Trump's Pandemic Part 2 coming in a close second?

Wrapping it all up with an all-out 3 or 4-way Nuclear Holocaust War?

All of the above at the same time, a 3-way heat?

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...he-terrorists/

As the aphorism goes "when you're in a hole stop digging" lolololol.

Ie, ET and Spidy just don't have a fucking clue.

Allahu Akbar.

[EihTooms]

The dumbest human to ever be allowed to sit at the desk in the Oval Office, Donald J. Trump, is scrambling in all directions in a desperate attempt to at least get back to where Obama had gotten with Iran's nuclear status before he, Donald J. Trump, stupidly abandoned it. And all while a War between two nuclear powers, India and Pakistan, escalates to a degree that "never wouda' happened on Obama's watch or Biden's watch or Hillary's watch."

Iran, US conclude 4th round of talks over Tehran's nuclear program.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/11/iran...ndroidappshare

Trump has repeatedly threatened to unleash airstrikes targeting Irans program if a deal isnt reached. Iranian officials increasingly warn that they could pursue a nuclear weapon with their stockpile of uranium enriched to near weapons-grade levels. Meanwhile, Israel has threatened to strike Irans nuclear facilities on their own if it feels threatened, further complicating tensions in the Mideast already spiked by the Israel-Hamas war in the Gaza Strip.
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Irans 2015 nuclear deal with world powers capped Tehrans enrichment at 3.67% and reduced its uranium stockpile to 300 kilograms (661 pounds). That level is enough for nuclear power plants, but far below weapons-grade levels of 90%.

Since the nuclear deals collapse in 2018 with Trumps unilateral withdrawal of the U.S. from the accord, Iran has abandoned all limits on its program and enriched uranium to up to 60% purity a short, technical step from weapons-grade levels. There have also been a series of attacks at sea and on land in recent years, stemming from the tensions even before the Israel-Hamas war began.

The Repub / Trump 2nd Term Historic Disaster race is on!

What will be the order of Trump's most likely achievements?

A Great Repub Recession / Depression first?

Trump's Pandemic Part 2 coming in a close second?

Wrapping it all up with an all-out 3 or 4-way Nuclear Holocaust War?

All of the above at the same time, a 3-way heat?

[RamDavidson84]

Male Bovine Excrement spewing from the keyboards of Republican Morons.

Harley Davison

Had an absolute lock on the premium motorcycle market. Now the company is floundering in the market that is should be doing better in than anyplace else in the world: The Dis-United States of America. Not only that but they are getting the clocks cleaned worldwide. Here is why:

Sorry to chime in one more time as its not really politics related, but for anyone who buys Harley stock from time to time like me. The reason the company is not doing well is simply because younger generation of Americans aren't riding for recreation anymore. Harleys used to be a blue collar man's weekend toy, a lot more guys or just people in general are not getting into motorcycles as there's many more forms of entertainment which isn't as dangerous. If you look at all the other major motorcycle brands around the world, they are selling bikes as a means of transportation first, not a high priced recreational toy like a Harley. Especially the Asia / Jap brands, Harley will never be able to break into that market because they have workers who will build quality bikes for 1/5 the price of an american worker on top of years of experience in building these bikes as efficiently as possible. Harley is going to downsize a lot. It will have to come to terms with selling a lot less bikes. Like I said before though, if you live in USA and your a middle age dude who just wants to cruise highway on the weekeneds. Nothing really comes close to what a Harley can give you. Every part in that bike is super high quality and the feel of the ride to the fit and finish is the best money can buy. Personally, I could care less Harley went slightly woke, which I don't think they really even did. Maybe I am wrong and some one can point that out to me. The new model street and road glides are fucking sick, just got to get rid of that cheap chinese smart screens and go back to old school bullet proof analog dials and instruments.

[RamDavidson84]

Male Bovine Excrement spewing from the keyboards of Republican Morons.

Harley Davison

Had an absolute lock on the premium motorcycle market. Now the company is floundering in the market that is should be doing better in than anyplace else in the world: The Dis-United States of America. Not only that but they are getting the clocks cleaned worldwide. Here is why:

https://youtu.be/fzKcAO_o-_Q?si=pfYZBluayH6wObeP

I am currently shopping for a motorcycle. I am a new rider. I actually would prefer to represent, but Harley Davison is selling an inferior product at a premium price. I am looking at Zontes and CFMoto. But offering ton of tech, more power AND a lower price than even the current Japanese Brands. My vote of my USD has much more power than my vote at the ballot box. I am exercising that power as I pursue my happiness.

Been a Harley guy for the last 10 years or so, hence the name. Ram Trucks and Harley Davidson bikes. Harleys definitely over priced, but they are worth it if you are into cruisers and live in America and you have the budget. If I lived in Europe with their winding back roads where you can't even open your bike up, no way would I buy a cruiser, they are long haul highway bikes. If you live in USA and your going to be doing at least half your miles on the highway, personally I think Harley is the best. Indians are nice too, but when you see the fit and finish in person and the re sale value of a Harley, its clear to me who the best pick is. Harley after Markey is way over priced as well. If your on any kind of budget and your not a die hard, Harley doesn't really make sense. If you really want to get into riding and you live in USA and you have the budget, I think Harley is a no brainer. I love takin my bike to airport for my trips. Always jump the curb at short term parking and don't pay for parking on the way out. Saves me time and money every time.

If I was to get a city bike, Kawasaki H2 and Honda cb1000 r are bullet proof and have power for days. I am too old for sport bikes, well almost. The Suzuki Katana looks sick as well. If I was to go for best bang for your buck jap cruiser, Rebel 1100 T is a great deal and again Honda reliability. It will out last you. Personally I would risk a Chinese bike, but that is your choice. I am not the expert but have driven a lot of bikes, just my two cents.

I been riding 2019 Fatbob, fucking love that bike. Had a Kawasaki and Honda before that.

[SubCmdr]

He thinks that race matter. It does not. What matters is the socio-economic differences in the Dis-United States of America.

Read this slowly Mr. Food on a Bun:

Nope, sorry, the US Constitution is for Americans not people who come to our country illegally and commit crimes, and when we were founded as a nation, we had slaves and only land owners could vote. Before an income tax and women could vote, the USA was the #1 economy in the world.

Replace the word slaves with immigrants and land owners with the 1%.

Who are the one percent?

The term "1 percent" typically refers to the wealthiest 1% of individuals or households, as measured by annual income or net worth. Here are some key points about who makes up this elite group:

Income Threshold: To be in the top 1% in the United States, you need to earn at least $787,712 annually as of 2024.
This threshold varies by state, with higher requirements in states like Connecticut ($1,152,254) and California ($1,035,673), and lower requirements in states like Georgia ($700,544) and Texas ($762,090).
Net Worth: To be in the top 1% by net worth, a household would need to have a minimum of $13.7 million.
Occupations and Industries: The top 1% disproportionately includes:
Medical Professionals: Physicians and dentists often fall into this category due to their specialized, in-demand skills.
Business Owners: Small and medium-sized business owners, particularly those in S corporations, partnerships, and limited liability companies, are common. Industries such as professional and technical services, specialty trade contractors, and legal services are particularly represented.
Executives and Managers: High-level executives and managers in various industries, including finance, technology, and sales, often earn top incomes.
Financial Specialists and Accountants: These professionals often have specialized skills that command high salaries.
Wealth Distribution: The top 1% holds a significant portion of the nation's wealth. As of the third quarter of 2024, they controlled $49.2 trillion, or 30.8% of the total wealth in the U.S..
Global Perspective: In a global context, earning $60,000 as a single person with no children can place you in the global elite.
However, the threshold for the top 1% varies by country, with higher thresholds in countries like Monaco ($12.9 million), Luxembourg ($10.8 million), and Switzerland ($8.5 million).
Historical Context: The term "1 percent" gained prominence during the Occupy Wall Street movement in 2011, but the concept of an elite class has existed for much longer. Historically, terms like the "Upper Ten Thousand" and the "Four Hundred" were used to describe the wealthiest and most influential individuals in New York City.
These individuals and households are characterized by their high incomes, significant net worth, and often specialized skills or business ownership, which contribute to their financial success.

It does not matter what your skin color is. If you are not a part of the 1% in the Dis-United States of America, you ain't shit. Now Mr. Food on the Bun could at least educate himself on the economics of the Dis-United States of American and stop embarrassing himself through displays of ignorance in his many posts.

[SubCmdr]

Subcmdr spoke about phones - I also had a Huawei phone- best phone I ever had, hands down better than Crapple and waay cheaper.

The only part about the above statement I agree with is that it is way cheaper. Better than a iPhone. Not even close. What happened is that I was in the Dominican Republic at the time my iPhone failed. I refused to pay the 40% over the cost I could buy the phone for from a store in the Dis-United States of America at the time. I saw Trump was banning Huawei. So, that made my decision easy. The model I bought at the time was 10,000 DOP.

Subcmdr buys a iPhone to replace his Huawei

As soon as I got the chance, I actually booked a flight to SDQ to FLL and purchased a iphone 15 ProMax 512 GB for 1000 USD flat. Then I flew back to SDQ. I paid for a taxis, my plane ticket, breakfast and lunch and still had money left over. Not hotel needed. Left on the first flight out of SDQ. Returned on the last flight back to SDQ. Day trip. I did not want to spend one single minute more in the Dis-United States of America than I needed to. Fist pump on wheels up. Two arms up in the touchdown sign on wheels down. My fellow passengers looked me like I was crazy.

The Dis-United States is fucked up (in so many ways) and expensive as fuck. But you can buy some shit up in that *****. No taxi in the Dominican Republic needed. I had one of my employees drive me to and pick me up from the airport. Best phone I have ever owned. Still use it to this day. Cannot hold a candle to a Huawei. When you have low standards you are satisfied with whatever you can get.

Republican morons and their ideological guests spew a lot of male bovine excrement from their keyboards when they post. I have to don a Haz-Mat suit before I start to read this thread. Unfortunately there is no removal proceedings that can be implemented against them. So, I am forced to be like Warren G and Nate Dog: Yes I regulate!

15 in the mag and one in the hole
2nd Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

[Elvis 2008]

Oh look. Another War has erupted in the World on the watch of a president who himself claims and his lemming Cult Followers insist is a "Man of Peace and there were no wars during his previous presidency", even though at least three wars raged on his watch including one he himself started against America on American soil.

Trump offers to help resolve conflict between India and Pakistan.

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...iate-ceasefire

"After a long night of talks mediated by the United States, I am pleased to announce that India and Pakistan have agreed to a FULL AND IMMEDIATE CEASEFIRE," Trump said.

The president continued, "Congratulations to both Countries on using Common Sense and Great Intelligence. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

The Guardian provided more color on Rubio's diplomatic mission:

Rubio has been engaged in back-and-forth diplomacy between the two countries in recent days, calling for de-escalation as India and Pakistan have been engaged in daily clashes since Wednesday.

The US's top diplomat "continued to urge both parties to find ways to de-escalate and offered US assistance in starting constructive talks to avoid future conflicts," state department spokesperson Tammy Bruce said in a statement on Saturday.

End of link.

Wow, this is pretty impressive. Way to go Trump and Mario Rubio!

But then:

A Democrat judge just signed an order directing Pakistan and India to resume fighting.

So typical!

[SubCmdr]

Perment Resident

Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States

Columbia University graduate and pro-Palestinian activist Mahmoud Khalil was detained by immigration authorities who said he could be deported and cited a Cold War-era law. Under that law, the secretary of state can make a noncitizen subject to deportation if their presence or activities could threaten U.S. foreign policy interests.

Mother fuck got sideways of the law of the country he was a guest in. Removal process. Currently getting DUE PROCESS under the law.

I will keep repeating it until individuals understand it. If you are not a citizen of the United States of America and did not grow up with a lifetime knowledge of the Constitution of the the United States of America I understand why you don't understand. I will continue to provide instruction and correction of those who refuse to see what is written in black and white in the law.

I know the immigration law in the counties I visit. I have attorneys in each one where I am a visitor. I have no immigration problems in my country of origin. I cannot be deported.

[SubCmdr]

Male Bovine Excrement spewing from the keyboards of Republican Morons.

If Americans have the right incentive system, we can do almost anything better than anyone.

Harley Davison

Had an absolute lock on the premium motorcycle market. Now the company is floundering in the market that is should be doing better in than anyplace else in the world: The Dis-United States of America. Not only that but they are getting the clocks cleaned worldwide. Here is why:

https://youtu.be/fzKcAO_o-_Q?si=pfYZBluayH6wObeP

I am currently shopping for a motorcycle. I am a new rider. I actually would prefer to represent, but Harley Davison is selling an inferior product at a premium price. I am looking at Zontes and CFMoto. But offering ton of tech, more power AND a lower price than even the current Japanese Brands. My vote of my USD has much more power than my vote at the ballot box. I am exercising that power as I pursue my happiness.

Now Elvis 2008 and MarquisdeSade1 would have me pay more just to buy American. In the United States of America that I grew up with that mentality is in opposition to the capitalist system I learned about and then finally mastered late in life. I should pay more so that the capitalists can impoverish me even more than they currently are doing.

Remember I am just a poor (insert color of your choice here) man trying to make it in a (insert color of your choice here) world. I need to save every dollar I can!

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness

[SubCmdr]

Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold.

Gold prices fall as Trump hints at major US-UK trade deal- Gold prices dropped on Thursday as market nerves eased following U.S. President Donald Trumps announcement of a possible trade deal with Britain. The news pulled investors away from the safe-haven metal, which had earlier seen some gains.

Gold continues to be on a tear. This is actually a bad time to be buying gold as a major correction is on the horizon.

But do not worry. SC swears it is going up so you should buy it. Maybe he can lecture everyone on these things after the racist comments and how big his dick is. And BTW, did he mention the killing he is making in gold?

What I do is speak about all aspects of an investment. Not just my view. Buy BONDs E2008 says. But he fails to point out that if the entity that issued those BONDS fail you lose EVERYTHING!

Gold (Au), if you hold it physically has held it's value adjusted for inflation over 5000 years. If there is a major reset (and there will be if the Dis-United States of America does not get it's act together) if all of your wealth is wiped out because the US Dollar goes to zero or hyper-inflates, I feel comfortable knowing I have something that I can use in the restart of the world economy.

[SubCmdr]

Hotdog666 (please note the proper use of your handle. I will address you with disrespect as you do later in my post).

I am not sure what your problem is. Reading comprehension maybe. I will lay out the law and the fact for you again:

Another important limitation on lawful permanent residents is that they are subject to the grounds of deportability. If you commit certain crimes or security violations, or even fail to advise USCIS of your changes of address, you can be placed in removal proceedings and deported from the United States

Your boy was a guest. Why? Because guests can get deported. A US Citizen cannot get deported.

Got sideways of the law. So he is in removal proceedings. It the USGOV did not have a valid complaint then the Judge would have immediately thrown it out.

You have told two lies there,. Firstly, your repeated lie that a permanent resident is a "guest". It isn't. You've just fabricated that and repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

The second lie, that you've repeated is that Mahmud Khalil did something illegal. He didn't. He protested about Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians and that was his "crime". Your country is ruled by Zionists and America is the dog that the zionists wag. However it does not make it a crime.

You can call the law I have presented to a a lie as much as you want Food on a Bun. Does not change the law or the facts in the case

You're despicable and hypocritical decrying against "republican" "racists" who (supposedly) treat your people unjustly while applying the same modus operandi and mindset towards this victim. Have some shame.

I will never let a "guest" such as yourself tell me anything about my country of origin while you live in some shithole country in the world.

Get a life, learn the law, acknowledge the facts. You boy was a guest. He got sideways of the law. He is removal proceedings. He is receiving DUE PROCESS. In a system very different from China and Russia whom you are comparing the Dis-United States of America to.

How are you as a International Trick going tell me I am disgusting and need to have shame? When is your next trip to Jakarta. I look forward to reading your next trip report.

[MarquisdeSade1]

Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold. I think you are confusing money printing with credit. When the USA government gives people a dollar, it is as a loan via treasury bills and notes. If the USA prints up too many dollars, people demand a higher interest rate, and the government has to pay. It is not a free lunch as the gold bugs promote.

And the creation of money is not just at the hands of the government. Anyone who gives someone else credit is creating money. The worse the risk, the higher the rate is. In short, money creation is limited by the faith of the lender. If the lender does not have faith he will be paid back, money creation dries up.

When I went to a shareholder meeting of a Venezuelan telephone company, I heard Venezuelan after Venezuelan talk about fucking over Verizon which owned 25% of the company by breaking their own laws. Verizon (which was GTE) literally laid down all the phone lines in that country. When I heard that, I knew that Venezuela, which at the time had the largest proven oil reserves in the world, was done for a generation. Until Venezuelans respect lenders, they will be poor.

When I went to American banks to get a mortgage to buy land in Latin America, they would not lend me the money. They would do a personal loan but not a mortgage. Yet real estate prices in Latin countries went through the roof. I was in Paraguay and a decent house was $300,000. I was like who in Paraguay has that kind of cash? That is a price to income ratio of 50! What was happening is European banks particularly French ones were doing the lending and unlike American banks, they have not taken their haircuts. A lot of the reason the USA gets flak is our honesty with the numbers (well, before Biden anyway).

Right now, Greece, remember them, has lower interest rates than the USA. Now do you think that is because they are a better credit risk or they are hiding their debt? A free market is based on honesty, and the Greeks have never been honest.

When I went to Latin countries and asked why they were so poor, the reason I was given was corruption. That implies it is government and not the fault of the people though. What I saw by going to Venezuela is Hugo Chavez and his stealing was a symptom and not the cause of the issue. The problem was and is the Venezuelan citizens absolutely disdain for the rights of lenders and so no one wants to extend them credit. The corruption part is the government not sticking up for lenders.

So when you talk about the "free market" and China, what are you talking about? What is the credit system in China? Is it open? Is there transparency? Would you loan money to China and if so, how would you assess the risk and the interest rate you should be paid? And with what would you want to be paid back your interest?

One of Warren Buffett's sayings is "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked". What that means is if the French banks keep on their books that the homes in their Paraguayan real estate portfolio are valued at $300,000 apiece, everything is fine. Only when they are forced to liquidate the asset or the government demands a realistic valuation is when the tide goes out.

And banks are not like other businesses. If they lever up 10:1, then a 10% reduction in asset prices renders them insolvent. So for all your disdain for the American system and how flawed it is, be honest. You have no clue how the Chinese credit system operates. And you know how I know? Because if you did, there is no way in hell you would be pushing China over the USA.

Be weary of engaging anyone that calls themselves hotdog on an anon hooker online forum, that publicly fluffs and rims the CCP.

And claims to hang out with Nobel Laureates when they aren't fluffing and rimming Xi lolololololol.

You're going down the Jjbee64 path again lolololol.

[Elvis 2008]

After it, America realised that the world would lap up its printed dollars anyway so it thought, this is a sweet deal, I print off a dollar, then I go to the rest of the world, and buy its goods and give them the dollar. They then have to do something with that dollar and there's not enough stuff that I make that they want so they take that dollar and give the dollar back to me and I give them an "IOU".

Yeah, I have been listening to this since I heard people hawking gold. I think you are confusing money printing with credit. When the USA government gives people a dollar, it is as a loan via treasury bills and notes. If the USA prints up too many dollars, people demand a higher interest rate, and the government has to pay. It is not a free lunch as the gold bugs promote.

And the creation of money is not just at the hands of the government. Anyone who gives someone else credit is creating money. The worse the risk, the higher the rate is. In short, money creation is limited by the faith of the lender. If the lender does not have faith he will be paid back, money creation dries up.

When I went to a shareholder meeting of a Venezuelan telephone company, I heard Venezuelan after Venezuelan talk about fucking over Verizon which owned 25% of the company by breaking their own laws. Verizon (which was GTE) literally laid down all the phone lines in that country. When I heard that, I knew that Venezuela, which at the time had the largest proven oil reserves in the world, was done for a generation. Until Venezuelans respect lenders, they will be poor.

When I went to American banks to get a mortgage to buy land in Latin America, they would not lend me the money. They would do a personal loan but not a mortgage. Yet real estate prices in Latin countries went through the roof. I was in Paraguay and a decent house was $300,000. I was like who in Paraguay has that kind of cash? That is a price to income ratio of 50! What was happening is European banks particularly French ones were doing the lending and unlike American banks, they have not taken their haircuts. A lot of the reason the USA gets flak is our honesty with the numbers (well, before Biden anyway).

Right now, Greece, remember them, has lower interest rates than the USA. Now do you think that is because they are a better credit risk or they are hiding their debt? A free market is based on honesty, and the Greeks have never been honest.

When I went to Latin countries and asked why they were so poor, the reason I was given was corruption. That implies it is government and not the fault of the people though. What I saw by going to Venezuela is Hugo Chavez and his stealing was a symptom and not the cause of the issue. The problem was and is the Venezuelan citizens absolutely disdain for the rights of lenders and so no one wants to extend them credit. The corruption part is the government not sticking up for lenders.

So when you talk about the "free market" and China, what are you talking about? What is the credit system in China? Is it open? Is there transparency? Would you loan money to China and if so, how would you assess the risk and the interest rate you should be paid? And with what would you want to be paid back your interest?

One of Warren Buffett's sayings is "Only when the tide goes out do you discover who's been swimming naked". What that means is if the French banks keep on their books that the homes in their Paraguayan real estate portfolio are valued at $300,000 apiece, everything is fine. Only when they are forced to liquidate the asset or the government demands a realistic valuation is when the tide goes out.

And banks are not like other businesses. If they lever up 10:1, then a 10% reduction in asset prices renders them insolvent. So for all your disdain for the American system and how flawed it is, be honest. You have no clue how the Chinese credit system operates. And you know how I know? Because if you did, there is no way in hell you would be pushing China over the USA.

[HotDog666]

LOL. I think you are talking about illegals and "due process". The Democratic douches want to give illegals the same rights as citizens. That does not exist. This is from a lawyer who has been talking on MSNBC. https://dannycevallos.substack.com/p...ss-is-actually.

Most nations do not grant citizenship to women who have their children in their country. If you have your baby in Japan, unlike in the USA, the baby is not a Japanese citizen. The law that allowed pregnant Mexican women to cross the border and have their kids here and become American citizens is the 14th Amendment. The reason for the 14th Amendment was Southern states after the Civil war tried to deny citizenship to slaves. As they should have, lower courts have upheld the law giving citizenship to these birthed citizens as it is above their pay grade. Eventually, the Supreme Court will tackle this. To me, it is a no brainer to plug this hole. American citizenship has been valued in the millions and it should not just be given away as a right to a child whose parent is breaking the law.

The funny thing is I think Republicans are more pro-immigrant than Democrats. We just want legal and productive citizens and not the criminals that cross the border and whose only talents are selling drugs and voting Democrat.

As for China, a lot of countries have done well moving from the farm to the factory. China is in debt up to their eyeballs. Someone is paying for those empty cities, and the federal government of China has pushed the debt to the state and local level. Unlike Japan, there is no free flow of currency into the dollar and Euro, and the Chinese people have had little alternative other than to pile into real estate, and the Chinese lie their asses off with economic data, https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/be...nomic-collapse.

American savings are immense. They are just in the bond and stock market not banks, so I do not make that big of a deal with Americans and their lack of "savings".

While you acknowledge the real estate bubble, I do not think you get how bad it is. The rule of thumb used to be when buying a house you take your income and double it, so the price to income ratio should be 2. That is your house would cost double your income if you put every dollar you earned into your hose.

One reason and perhaps THE reason the great Biden economy is such a lie is that prices of stocks and real estate rose but not income with housing and not earnings with the stock market. When prices go up but not income or earnings, that is just money printing at work.

Now look at price to income ratios around the world. New York is fucking crazy at 14, but Shangai is at 34, and that is down from what it was. But you have Phoenix at 4 and Orlando and Dallas at 3, and you can see why everyone is moving there from New York and California. China is nowhere near done dealing with their real estate bubble.

Usually their home is the biggest asset most people own. You mention monetary policies and deflation but the root cause of deflation is falling demand, and that is a natural consequence of aging. Once people quit being parents, demand falls down. China is in the first inning of its deflationary bubble.

Japan and Western complacency? Come on, man. Japan kicked China's butt in WW2 and even today, Japan is way more organized, productive, and safe than China. Japan's issue is they are the oldest nation in the world. The first thing that happens when you go from the country to the city is kids go from being free labor to an expense. The USA has not followed that path. We have adjusted to lower births by allowing immigration. Like I said, the difference between Republicans and Democrats is not over immigration. It is over illegal immigration. For God's sake, Trump is on his second foreign wife.

And yeah, Japan made shit cars in the 1970's and upped their game in the 1980's. I remember being blown away by the Datsun 280 ZX in the 80's just like Chinese cars are blowing me away today. This is a wakeup call not just for American car companies but the world's car companies.

As for bringing home production, that was already happening after Covid. Trump is just accelerating that trend. I do not get this crap with stuff doubling in price. Iphones could be made in the USA for $30 more not double and with most goods, the cost of labor is tiny.

Some guy with TDS was saying the USA could not make shoes. I was laughing. Since when can the USA not make fucking shoes? Henry Ford invented the assembly line. A guy who looked into making shoes said an automated USA factory could produce shoes for 7% more than not China but even lower cost Vietnam. Once the right incentives are in place, I am sure the USA can produce not just equal but better quality shoes than Vietnam for less.

Do you think anyone in 2004 was saying the USA would be self sufficient in crude oil fifteen years later? How did that happen? Did Americans just trip over oil? We developed a new way to drill for crude which went from being expensive to cost effective. China has huge shale reserves, and they have not been able to tap into them in any meaningful way, and all you talk about is Western complacency.

You think the USA cannot build phone and shoe factories but China can get off oil and coal at break net speed? Please! Here are the numbers.

https://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/detail.php?id=64544 China's refiners imported 11.1 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.2 million be / the. Both crude oil imports and refinery runs decreased in China from record levels in 2023, when the country imported 11.3 million be / the of crude oil and processed 14.8 million be / the.

In 2023, China's coal consumption reached 91.94 exajoules, marking a new high. In 2022, China's coal consumption grew by 4. 6 percent to a new all-time high of 4. 5 billion metric tons, nearly nine times higher than the United States.

Coal consumption went down in 2024 like oil did but there is nothing break net about that reduction, and China is the biggest coal importer in the world. If China invades Taiwan, the American navy cuts off China's crude and coal and their economy tanks in days.

I think I am realistic on China. It has huge issues that the USA does not have. Most of American's foreign policy was based on energy security and oil importation. We no longer have that issue and China does, and for some reason, you just want to blow that off. What happened with American oil production will happen in manufacturing. There were more cynics on oil production, I called them the peak oil nuts, then there are cynics on manufacturing. If Americans have the right incentive system, we can do almost anything better than anyone.

I actually agree there really is a valid issue with immigration in America and the Dem's handling of this and this has a lot to do with Trump getting into power. America, like the west, is in a dilemma on immigration, and I don't know what to tell you, maybe AI and automation will eventually step up resolving the need but clearly not desire for immigrants.

I think you really are looking at America with rose tinted glasses and you haven't woken up and smelt the coffee on China. Taking the latter first, have you heard that song "Anything you can do, I can do cheaper (and better) than you"? That's China for you. I've spoken about EV's and AI as examples. We can go further. Stephen spoke about phones- I also had a Huawei phone- best phone I ever had, hands down better than Crapple and waay cheaper. Have you heard of the Chengdu Aerospace corporation? Their stock went up 20% last week. Why? Because of the India / Pakistan conflagaration. Their J10 c has proven its worth against the supposedly vastly superior French Raphael, 3-5 of which were shot down depending on whom you speak to. "If it's Boeing I'm not going" is what many people now assert after their planes started falling out of the sky. We can go on. You need to accept the reality. Yes, America retains superiority over semiconductors and arguably aeronautics but for how long?

We can play tit for tat on who has the bigger issues, China or America. They may be indebted to their heads on real estate but it is true that they have incredible amounts of personal savings too, which offsets the debt. Meanwhile 10's of millions of Americans are living pay check to paycheck. You are in awe of this fuckwit Trump and Musk even though they've done sweet FA on it. What have they done? Saved $160 billion by taking the money from poor and hungry and from critical govt programs and from air traffic controllers? Wow. My dream is to have my hated ones travel into Newark on a Boeing. This from the Vice Joker who claimed he was going to save $1 Trillion (or was it $2 trillion) in the few months he was there.

Neither they nor you understand America's problem so how are you going to find the solutions? Let me edify you, if you care to open your mind. America's major problem isn't bloated civil service or "social security" or even welfare. It's the fact that you guys have been making choices which you don't have the money for and it's not recent either. Have you heard of Bretton Woods? This was a pact post WW2 by the world's major economies to have the dollar as a reserve currency, their currencies pegged to the dollar and it was pegged to gold. An American dollar had real discernable value, until around 1971 when it was taken off gold. Why? Because the world cottoned off to the fact that America was printing dollars to pay off its costs for Vietnam. After it, America realised that the world would lap up its printed dollars anyway so it thought, this is a sweet deal, I print off a dollar, then I go to the rest of the world, and buy its goods and give them the dollar. They then have to do something with that dollar and there's not enough stuff that I make that they want so they take that dollar and give the dollar back to me and I give them an "IOU". And with that dollar back to me, I can buy a helicopter to shoot down a Vietnamese. Sweet deal, no? And That's what got you guys hooked on debt. It harks back through to getting off the gold standard. There's actually nothing wrong with this, per se. But you've used the debt proceeds for stupid purposes. I've previously given you figures regarding the cost of Iraq debacle of $7 trillion. You could have spent the money on so many other things of value but going around the world instigating unholy wars was not smart. They say Russia lost to the west because it was literally bankrupted and couldn't finance its military. Well, America is going down the same route.

Look, my man. I am not anti American. I think there's a great deal of good things about America as I've articulated before. But you do need to wake and smell the coffee and this wet dream that China is going to collapse or somehow you're going to on shore all the production and become great again is simply unrealistic. Try and look at things objectively. The world's supply chains are incredibly complex and if you are a free market believer you have to also believe that the free market operates rationally. Your TV leave alone your car has many many components from all over the world in a way which is most efficient. America nor any one nation has the capacity to produce all these. Have you heard of Ricardian economics? This is Ricardian economics in operation, and to try to refute this requires something compelling. This batshit President of yours against Ricardo? Come on, bro. The tariffs are simply a tax on Americans and all they will do is accelarate your demise and accelarate China's ascendancy.

Please forego these batshit conspiracy theory websites you sent and read a book. Here's a few I recommend.

- Power and Politics (Daron Acemoglu- I met him, he is super smart and a noble prize winner).

- Crisis Economics (Nouriel Roubini).

- How Democracies Die (Steven Levitsky).

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A guest in my county of the Dis-United States of America like the dumb mother fuck you keep mentioning should have known the law and followed it. If he did not know the law he should have been advised by his immigration attorney that he used to get his permanent residence status in the first place. Oh, he didn't have an attorney, so sorry for him. That is just plan stupid.

I have an attorney in every country where I am engaged in activities of a legal nature. In other words, where I am not JUST a tourist. That number totals 4 different countries at this point in my life.

The only cerebral challenge I present to anyone is to those that do not have their facts straight. Remind you of anyone you know?

ROTFLMAO!

You have told two lies there, Stephen. Firstly, your repeated lie that a permanent resident is a "guest". It isn't. You've just fabricated that and repeating a lie doesn't make it a truth.

The second lie, Stephen, that you've repeated is that Mahmud Khalil did something illegal. He didn't. He protested about Israeli atrocities against the Palestinians and that was his "crime". Your country is ruled by Zionists and America is the dog that the zionists wag. However it does not make it a crime. Your despicable and hypocritical decrying against "republican" "racists" who (supposedly) treat your people unjustly while applying the same modus operandi and mindset towards this victim. Have some shame, Stephen.

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