American Politics

[Spidy]

Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax?

Hmmmm....would that be the affluent society of the day, prior to 1913 and income tax, paid for with the broken backs of the Black slave labor, the Native Indigenous enslavement camps, the Chinese indentured/railroad slave labor or the migrant/immigrant low-wage slave-like exploitation?

Why, they must have been uncivilized.

You nailed it!

Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

Perhaps you've missed it, since I've just already finish explaining "...who the real parasites are...", to the other MAGA neophyte, who perhaps now gets it, (hint: it's the billionaires and robber baron class).

But just in case, Elvis 2008, you can't take a hint, on who the REAL parasites are, I'll let one of YOUR GREATEST HEROES (America's and mine), explain it to you once AGAIN, in his own words:

• "The poor aren't the takers...the rich who exploit loopholes are. And I'm one of them!" --Warren Buffett

[Spidy]

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

Agreed!

And just as equally, well stated and succinct, but perfectly articulated. Tis, definitely refreshing, to see when others, understand and acknowledge, what a just, fair and equitably ran society, looks like.

• "Id rather be called a socialist than watch this country turn into an oligarchy where the rich live off the work of everyone else." --Warren Buffett, 2015, Charlie Rose interview

[MarquisdeSade1]

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

But not so much here, firstly socialized medicine is a horrible concept in theory and in practice, just ask anyone that has health problems in a country with it, like ie, Canada the UK or Germany.

"I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest".

This line is really really fucking laughable, I didn't know if the USA was the best country or not until I traveled all over the world, but now, I absolutely know it is.

There isn't a country that can even come close to competing with the USA in quality of life.

Not in Asia, not in Europe, not in Latin America.

They all completely suck, some more so than others, some are ok to visit.

But as far as living there versus the USA, you need your fucking head examined!!

[RamDavidson84]

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

The obvious problem is America is full of a bunch of assholes, like me, who would abuse that system and milk it dry until it would become unsustainable. Other countries that try that shit have GDPs which are half of the USA and they also don't have all the assholes living there like we do. Look at France, Spain, UK, Canada. Its not a paradise like it seems. The exceptions like Norway work because they have a population which is 1/30 of the USA and its much easier to stop corruption and keep the assholes in line. It just wouldn't work on a scale as big as the USA nor do most Americans want to pay those high taxes for those benefits. Many Americans are greedy self centered jerk offs and they don't want those policies. They would rather have higher pay with lower taxes and less benefits for the lower classes. I understand why the jerk offs are greedy too, so many jobs in the USA pay well, but the stress and toxic environment for many of those jobs is so high, the only way you can justify doing it is the high pay. Cops, Teachers, Nurses, City workers, construction, politicians, lawyers, people don't work those high stress jobs to make a difference anymore- they work that shit for the money and that high stress makes them greedy. It is what it is my guy.

All those things you list sure would be nice though, too bad we have a national debt of 30 trillion and can't even fund our current social security system.

[Goatscrot]

Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

How did the US function? Well it was a paradise for the wealthy, and hell on Earth for the poor. There was virtually no middle class. Cities were successful in working conditions were horrific. We need to expand the public sector, not contracted. The United States cannot consider itself a truly developed country without universal health care, paid education including University and tech school, excellent pensions at a reasonable age, four weeks paid vacation, and viable public transportation that makes owning a car optional. I don't know how anyone can spend significant time overseas and still think America is the greatest.

[Goatscrot]

(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!


(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, than the first armchair chair MAGA critic, other than of course, the usual bigotry!

Is it ART according to MAGA?:

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from some washed-up has-been journalist/MAGA pundit, who would thinks today's idea of "high art" is a viral meme OR an NFT, depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to Orangutan, with the caption "Who's prettier?" (...kkkk!)

Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', is nothing new or weird, as artists have often had strange depictions of women, that have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as "grotesque" and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the Cumaen Sibyl or Night on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as "men with breasts (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" https://medium.com/counterarts/why-m...y-e65cc309c8b1 )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics!

But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered their fair share of controversy for decades, despite their bigoted and narrow-minded critics.

• "And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Price's figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David" https://news.artnet.com/art-world/th...debate-2642837

Fair or unfair critique of Price's 'Grounded in the Stars', is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals, by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that the controversial, "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', its day will come, when it too, will have its sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember:

• "FREE YOUR MIND
  And the rest will follow
  Be colour-blind
  Don't be so shallow
  FREE YOUR MIND"

Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist.

"It's 'your nature', said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! (...kkkk!)

Very well stated! Good art creates cognitive tension. And challenges the viewers values not just their aesthetic sense.

Meanwhile the United States is becoming North Korea.

[Spidy]

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...ping-worldwide

While it is not allowed to have statues of Thomas Jefferson or Teddy Roosevelt, among others, in New York City, a 12 ft bronze statue of a random fat black woman just standing there is certainly permitted. The Roosevelt and Jefferson statues were removed last year. After all, what did they ever do in contrast with this overweight fictional woman whose nipples are showing through her baggy t-shirt?

This is a fictional black woman. A fat, sloppy, slouchily dressed, black woman. Couldn't even find an ACTUAL black woman to represent.

No Harriet Tubman.

No Daisy Bates.

No Maya Angelou.

Just a fat fucking black woman.

And it gets worse: Similar statues installed recently in Florence, San Francisco, Rotterdam, & New York. All by the same (grifter-artist, "Thomas J Price," all with high levels of federal, municipal, private funding.

My favorite comment was: How about something that looks less like someone complaining their "order wasn't right"?

And then there is this bullshit: "In a culture that increasingly encourages a faster pace, Grounded in the Stars is an introspective meditation on humanity," the artist's website states, claiming the statue should "instigate meaningful connections and bind into an emotional state that allow for deeper reflection around the Human condition and greater cultural diversity. ".

Can you believe this crap? Obviously, the goal is if anyone criticizes the statue, you can call the person sexist and racist. ...

(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!

Yes I saw IT I tried to post it, I don't see my post

You mention that fat pig on food stamps.
...

100 billion a year on parasites getting fat on Cheetos and Pepsi.

(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, than the first armchair chair MAGA critic, other than of course, the usual bigotry!

Is it ART according to MAGA?:

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from some washed-up has-been journalist/MAGA pundit, who would thinks today's idea of "high art" is a viral meme OR an NFT, depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to Orangutan, with the caption "Who's prettier?" (...kkkk!)

Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', is nothing new or weird, as artists have often had strange depictions of women, that have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as "grotesque" and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the Cumaen Sibyl or Night on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as "men with breasts (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" https://medium.com/counterarts/why-m...y-e65cc309c8b1 )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics!

But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered their fair share of controversy for decades, despite their bigoted and narrow-minded critics.

• "And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Price's figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David" https://news.artnet.com/art-world/th...debate-2642837

Fair or unfair critique of Price's 'Grounded in the Stars', is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals, by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that the controversial, "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', its day will come, when it too, will have its sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember:

• "FREE YOUR MIND
  And the rest will follow
  Be colour-blind
  Don't be so shallow
  FREE YOUR MIND"

Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist.

"It's 'your nature', said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! (...kkkk!)

[MarquisdeSade1]

Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then?

Not too well.

Do you remember 9/11? Do you remember what airport security was like pre 9/11, they were a joke that's why OBL was able to pull off 9/11.

I doubt there is a politician in DC wants to be the one to kill the TSA, not even turds like Thomas Massie or Rand Paul.

[MarquisdeSade1]

(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #1, with not much to say, other than the usual, bigotry!


(...kkkk!) Our resident ART armchair critic #2, with EVEN LESS to say, other than the usual, bigotry!

Is it ART according to MAGA?:

Here go again, with our top 2, ISG MAGA culture war neophytes, as this time, they are desperately trying to be art critics? What it been like all of 5 minutes...and you guys, back so soon, with yet another MAGA culture-war puff piece?

No doubt, a puff piece and hack job, they saw on FOXY Muse, from a washed-up has-been journalist, who would thinks today's idea of "high art" is a viral meme OR an NFT depicting your Orange American Fuhrer next to orangutan, with the caption "Who's prettier?" (...kkkk!)

Renaissance Ideals vs. Modern Representation:

But jokes aside, what you both need to know is that, Price's depiction of his beautiful "everyday Black Woman" sculpture, entitled 'Grounded in the Stars', is nothing new or weird, as often strange depictions of women have played out throughout history, from Michelangelo to Picasso?

Picasso's women often described as "grotesque" and Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, such as the Cumaen Sibyl or Night on the Medici tombs, are notably muscular and athletic, with broad shoulders, defined abs, and powerful limbs, are often described as "men with breasts (checkout: "Why Michelangelo's Women Were So Manly?" https://medium.com/counterarts/why-m...y-e65cc309c8b1 )

BTW, Michelangelo's Sistine Chapel women, sounds wonderfully perfect for you MAGA INCEL, He Man Women Haters and armchair ART critics! But remember those, fat, nude, grotesque, and "men with breast", that have adorned the Sistine Chapel and other places, have weathered the controversy for decades, despite it's bigoted and narrow-minded critics.

"And controversy he got, despite a subtle degree of aggrandizement; Prices figure stands in a pose that nods to Michelangelo's David" https://news.artnet.com/art-world/th...debate-2642837 Fair or unfair critique of Prices 'Grounded in the Stars', is IMHO, the great controversy, that he intentionally challenges classical ideals by celebrating unapologetic, the contemporary body diversity, that so many famous artists before him have done.

So while other typical controversial statues like Robert E. Lee, Christopher Columbus or Theodore Roosevelt, have had their day in the sun and are now taken down, melted or stuffed in a museum somewhere, it can be also said, that controversial, "everyday Black Woman" sculpture 'Grounded in the Stars', its day will come, when it too, will have it's sunset moment. Till then, keep an open mind!

Just remember:

• "FREE YOUR MIND
  And the rest will follow
  Be colour-blind
  Don't be so shallow
  FREE YOUR MIND"

Oh, BTW...it isn't as if, you narrow minded, MAGA neophyte bigoted armchair critics wouldn't have equally complained about a statue/sculpture of Maya Angelou or Harriet Tubman, standing in Times Square. Bet you're asses, you'd all be applying some bigoted twist. It's "your nature", said the proverbial frog to the scorpion!

PS: Don't QUIT your day jobs! (...kkkk!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6MJkSRYc-4

[MarquisdeSade1]

Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...-tootsie-roll/

[EihTooms]

Yes, thanks for repeating the article bought and paid for by China in the WSJ.

One country engaged in a massive stimulus when the tariff fight was announced and it was not the USA.

One country tried to hide its negotiations and it was not the USA.

One nation continued with mild inflation despite the naysayers saying surely there would be inflation from tariffs. Last CPI was 0. 2% and with an annual rate of 2. 4% just where the Fed says it wants the inflation rate.

One country has seen its stock market rise after the tariff fight began, and it is not China.

We tax China's goods at 30% and they tax ours at 10% and that according to the WSJ is a win for China. How much did China pay these mo fos?

To quote the WSJ, many of these bad Chinese practices have become worse under President Xi Jinping's strong-arm economic management. One tragedy of Mr. Trump's shoot-America-in-the-foot-first approach is that he's hurt his chances of rallying a united front of countries against Beijing's mercantilism. Where do these assholes come up with this stuff? The last I checked none of this was off the table.

By targeting allies with tariffs, Mr. Trump has eroded trust in America's economic and political reliability. Oh brother, you mean the "allies" who tax the shit out of our exports to them?

Beijing now also has the benefit of concrete experience to reassure the Communist Party that Washington would struggle to impose economic sanctions in a crisis such as a Chinese blockade or invasion of Taiwan. WTF is the WSJ talking about? If China invades Taiwan, it is Trump's fault? LOL.

Yep, Covid was Trump's not China's fault too. You cannot make this shit up.

But so far there's scant sign of the substantial trade deals that Mr. Trump promises. Yeah, six weeks in, there has been nothing accomplished? In comparison to whom? Biden? The Dems? Who saw record trade deficits and said they are fine?

But a 10% across-the-board tariff is still four times the average USA Tariff rate before Mr. Trump took office. And China has gone from 0% to 30%. That is what you call losing?

And what you and the lame brains from the WSJ do not get is that on packages less than $800, there are no tarfifs. As reported by the Fed, a 60% tariff rate adds at worst 2% to the CPI number.

Meanwhile, you Democratic douches are exposed as the frauds you are. You want to keep getting as many $ as possible or your hookers. You want rich Americans to pay more in taxes and you want China to pay nothing. You fools have no idea what it takes to balance a budget.

You make what was mostly the Biden Economy in America over the past 110 days or so sound much, much better than what was happening in China.

Well, it was good while it lasted:

Under of a cloud of tariffs, Walmart is the latest retailer to announce price hikes.
May 15, 2025

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/under...BaEvSqCX5GQcgc

Walmart Becomes Biggest Retailer Yet to Pass Through Tariff Price Increases.
Walmart plans to raise prices this month and early this summer; other retailers likely will follow.
May 15, 2025

https://www.wsj.com/business/retail/...-2026-b978bcf5

BTW, "price hikes" and "increasing the cost" of things as Trump is determined to do does not necessarily equal a "higher rate of inflation" immediately.

Remember when it was all the rage for Trump and his MAGA Cult to associate higher prices for gas with inflation and thereby blame Trump's Pandemic Inflation on Biden?

The average price of a gallon of regular gasoline in the USA is higher today than it was yesterday, higher both days than it was a week ago, higher than it was a month ago, higher than it was on Biden's last day in office, higher than it was on election day under Biden.

Yet, I keep seeing MAGA memes all over the internet telling the world how great it is that gas prices are falling under Trump and I have not heard one Mainstream Media cable or network news source set the record straight about the higher price of gas since Trump was elected and took office.

Interesting, huh?

https://gasprices.aaa.com/

https://www.gasbuddy.com/charts

[SubCmdr]

Meanwhile, you Democratic douches are exposed as the frauds you are. You want to keep getting as many $ as possible or your hookers. You want rich Americans to pay more in taxes and you want China to pay nothing. You fools have no idea what it takes to balance a budget.

How are you paying your hookers?

Name the last president to balance the budget!

You cannot. Because if you look at how budget deficits work it is really the entire process handled by both the Article 1 and Article 2 branches that make it happen. It does not happen in one year or one term.

They do that to obscure the facts and history.

[Elvis 2008]

WOW!...you must REALLY be, in some kind of excruciating PAIN?

What I mean is, after finding out, one of YOUR BIGGEST financial investor heroes, is in prefect alignment with what I'm saying, w/r to the billionaires and corporations paying their fair of taxes, for the social good and benefit of a well functioning society

Ah yes, taxes are the price we pay for a well functioning society. Yes, how on earth did Americans get by prior to 1913 and the income tax? Why, they must have been uncivilized. Thank God we had the TSA bringing civility to air travel. How did we ever get by before then? I love how taxpayers paying for your hookers makes us civil.

And now Canadians want to pay more in taxes and you believe them? Just like Buffett? Actually, if you recall, Spidy, I said I would pay more taxes too as long as parasites like you are willing to take less too. You must have missed that part.

[Elvis 2008]

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching that China's retribution and retaliation right back onto America with even WORSE Tariffs.

Followed by the Whole Wide World watching Trump buckling, caving, grabbing his knees and taking it up the ass without KY-Jelly directly from Xi and THAT China until now he will only add a 10-30% Numbskull Trump Tariiff Additional Tax on the American Consumer onto everything they want and need to buy from China.

And this is after Xi and THAT China kicked Trump's ass up into his empty skull the first time around when Trump's failed Tariffs and Trade War with China resulted in THAT China getting damn near everything they wanted in exchange for giving virtually NOTHING to America while Trump plunged the USA Manufacturing and Agriculture sectors into a Recession so deep he had to issue emergency welfare checks just to keep them afloat.

Yes, thanks for repeating the article bought and paid for by China in the WSJ.

One country engaged in a massive stimulus when the tariff fight was announced and it was not the USA.

One country tried to hide its negotiations and it was not the USA.

One nation continued with mild inflation despite the naysayers saying surely there would be inflation from tariffs. Last CPI was 0. 2% and with an annual rate of 2. 4% just where the Fed says it wants the inflation rate.

One country has seen its stock market rise after the tariff fight began, and it is not China.

We tax China's goods at 30% and they tax ours at 10% and that according to the WSJ is a win for China. How much did China pay these mo fos?

To quote the WSJ, many of these bad Chinese practices have become worse under President Xi Jinping's strong-arm economic management. One tragedy of Mr. Trump's shoot-America-in-the-foot-first approach is that he's hurt his chances of rallying a united front of countries against Beijing's mercantilism. Where do these assholes come up with this stuff? The last I checked none of this was off the table.

By targeting allies with tariffs, Mr. Trump has eroded trust in America's economic and political reliability. Oh brother, you mean the "allies" who tax the shit out of our exports to them?

Beijing now also has the benefit of concrete experience to reassure the Communist Party that Washington would struggle to impose economic sanctions in a crisis such as a Chinese blockade or invasion of Taiwan. WTF is the WSJ talking about? If China invades Taiwan, it is Trump's fault? LOL.

Yep, Covid was Trump's not China's fault too. You cannot make this shit up.

But so far there's scant sign of the substantial trade deals that Mr. Trump promises. Yeah, six weeks in, there has been nothing accomplished? In comparison to whom? Biden? The Dems? Who saw record trade deficits and said they are fine?

But a 10% across-the-board tariff is still four times the average USA Tariff rate before Mr. Trump took office. And China has gone from 0% to 30%. That is what you call losing?

And what you and the lame brains from the WSJ do not get is that on packages less than $800, there are no tarfifs. As reported by the Fed, a 60% tariff rate adds at worst 2% to the CPI number.

Meanwhile, you Democratic douches are exposed as the frauds you are. You want to keep getting as many $ as possible or your hookers. You want rich Americans to pay more in taxes and you want China to pay nothing. You fools have no idea what it takes to balance a budget.

[SubCmdr]

I've said from the start that I am a beginner rider looking for the best starter bike for the money.

Google is weird here (Thailand). Six dealerships have is listed they sell CFMoto. None of them did. So, after learning I not going to actually buy the moto of my choice I have come back to: Royal Enfield - Guerrilla 450.

But it was hard for me to make a final decision. So I am also going to get a sport bike for the track and either a tourer or a scrambler and set them up with luggage for my long trips. I have zero interest in going off road here in Thailand (at least until I take my off-road riding course).

How does this relate to politics?

I find it interesting that the China Man is in the Dis-United States of America but is not here in Thailand. At least you can get good bourbon here. Individuals in the Dis-United States of America think they are the center of the world. They have the biggest market but there is an entire world out there. Everyday they are busting their asses to build lives like the once citizens of the Dis-United States of America take for granted. The underdog is counting on not being paid attention to until they start kicking ass and taking names. I read where someone says industries decline is part of the economic cycle. Maybe it is time that the Dis-United States of America recognizes it is on the decline. The Republican Morons are the cause. Time to either do something about it or goes softly in to the night.

Until Harley-Davidson designs and builds a reliable motorcycle for a beginner under 10 K USD, I will not be representing the Dis-United States of America nor voting for their products.