Makati

[Muttley81]

Has anyone been hassled by that super agressive mature transgender? She could be female, but I think trans. She calls herself Cristine and says she is manager of a shop where you can get anything you want. She patrols the whole street but is mainly around her 'shop' location at the Makati Ave end. She follows you with relentless questions but will eventually grab you or abuse you. After shaking her off she has followed me for a long distance, well away from the strip. She's like the fucking terminator. Street girls and ladyboys scared of her. They move out her way when she approaches, even if talking to you. She has actually caused me to leave P. Burgos twice now. I'm really sick of her. Definitely a screw loose and has actually grabbed me twice now.

Never seen or been grabbed by her, there fairly regularly but not as much as I used to be. I have excellent 'resting *****' face though so don't get bothered too often.

[WestCoast1]

Has anyone been hassled by that super agressive mature transgender? She could be female, but I think trans. She calls herself Cristine and says she is manager of a shop where you can get anything you want. She patrols the whole street but is mainly around her 'shop' location at the Makati Ave end. She follows you with relentless questions but will eventually grab you or abuse you. After shaking her off she has followed me for a long distance, well away from the strip. She's like the fucking terminator. Street girls and ladyboys scared of her. They move out her way when she approaches, even if talking to you. She has actually caused me to leave P. Burgos twice now. I'm really sick of her. Definitely a screw loose and has actually grabbed me twice now.

I was there recently. Doesn't ring any bells. Was on Burgos St most evenings for several weeks.

BTW, not sure if this was reported before, but Garrison's bar (formerly Cheers bar), located on Burgos corner Caseras St (near Citadel), has been closed for renovation for some time. The outdoor part is open for a sit-down brew, starting around 2 pm. The indoor area remains close. I don't think they are serving cooked food at this time.

[Pez612]

Has anyone been hassled by that super agressive mature transgender? She could be female, but I think trans. She calls herself Cristine and says she is manager of a shop where you can get anything you want. She patrols the whole street but is mainly around her 'shop' location at the Makati Ave end. She follows you with relentless questions but will eventually grab you or abuse you. After shaking her off she has followed me for a long distance, well away from the strip. She's like the fucking terminator. Street girls and ladyboys scared of her. They move out her way when she approaches, even if talking to you. She has actually caused me to leave P. Burgos twice now. I'm really sick of her. Definitely a screw loose and has actually grabbed me twice now.

[PhilJoy]

In my last trip this year PL girl (mid 20's) was happy to accept 2 K after the deed with no discussion before hand. Another one (30's MILF) stayed the night for no cash at all. Try being a bit charming, funny and not hung up on 18 year old princess types and you can have a lot of fun. But for straight up bar girl fun Philippines has lost its charm IMO.

I have to agree Expat.

Sounds familiar.

Amazing times at a great price can be rewarding for both.

I know a lot of new guys think the bar scene is the only option, but that's not how it all works.

It just takes a little experience.

_ Phil.

[ShaggerAu]

Fickle as f*ck, aren't they? We generally discourage guys from chatting up the girls for weeks or months prior to arrival. They agree to meet, then when you arrive: Poof! They are gone. Its better to wait until a day or two before arrival, or even to wait until you are here and then announce your arrival.

1-2 days notice is absolutely the way to go. No need to juggle hundreds of contacts and cross referencing changing plans. Just work a day or so ahead.

Another technique I have is only announcing my arrival 1-2 days ahead and only to a subset of girls. Some girls will think I arrive Saturday while some other contacts don't know an arrival date for me. Then that latter group gets a message I'm arriving Tuesday, and others may not hear I've arrived until the following Saturday. These girls know if you consistently put them off for days after you arrive then they know they are in a queue and return by ranking us in their queue as well.

[Expat American]

Thanks G,

I have negotiated a similar price in the heart of Makati back in March.

Basically, if you head out of your hotel lobby for some 'fresh air' at 1 am in the morning and get propositioned by a hot girl without a bakla accent, then you name your price.

They can take it or leave it.

Generally a 2 k offer is accepted and you don't have to go through all the bullshit of lady drinks and bar fines etc.

And this doesn't necessarily have to be early in the morning.

Tip the doorman / security, and if the girl has ID, you're ready to go.

Obviously, you treat them well, feed them and let them stay the night with a hot shower and a 1 k tip in the morning.

Sure, you have to be careful about the security issue, but most hotels are on your side when the girl supplies her ID upon arrival.

Phil_ From vast experience.

In my last trip this year PL girl (mid 20's) was happy to accept 2 K after the deed with no discussion before hand. Another one (30's MILF) stayed the night for no cash at all. Try being a bit charming, funny and not hung up on 18 year old princess types and you can have a lot of fun. But for straight up bar girl fun Philippines has lost its charm IMO.

[WestCoast1]

Haven't posted a pic in a while. I been remiss. My bad. And quiet on the board lately. Enjoy my twiglet.

[PhilJoy]

I think the 2000 per day or 500 per shot was a very specific situation that Phil had with his long term contact in Sabang. Having said that, I could see his methods and pricing translating easily to other locations.

G.

Thanks G,

I have negotiated a similar price in the heart of Makati back in March.

Basically, if you head out of your hotel lobby for some 'fresh air' at 1 am in the morning and get propositioned by a hot girl without a bakla accent, then you name your price.

They can take it or leave it.

Generally a 2 k offer is accepted and you don't have to go through all the bullshit of lady drinks and bar fines etc.

And this doesn't necessarily have to be early in the morning.

Tip the doorman / security, and if the girl has ID, you're ready to go.

Obviously, you treat them well, feed them and let them stay the night with a hot shower and a 1 k tip in the morning.

Sure, you have to be careful about the security issue, but most hotels are on your side when the girl supplies her ID upon arrival.

Phil_ From vast experience.

[Goferring]

Regarding a province girl getting 2000, that would generally be a kill shot for her. She might be giving quickies to pinoys for 500, and she might have an expat or 2 on the line at 1000. The situation is different....

Would like to see that post. Usually we post what we have experienced paying. Other fellas pay more, some pay less. There is often a consensus as to what the normal range is, but you have to read the posts and do your own averaging.

To compare apples with apples we should be specifying the length of time with the price. 2000 is my long time price in the provinces. In reality, it's normally somewhere between 15 and 30 hours and two to multiple pops. I've met several girls that get little more than a thankyou from local guys. As an aside I also confirmed from a long term resident in the provinces that he is also paying about 1000ST for a streetwalker. That may be 500 higher if there is a minder / pump involved.

I think the 2000 per day or 500 per shot was a very specific situation that Phil had with his long term contact in Sabang. Having said that, I could see his methods and pricing translating easily to other locations.

G.

[WestCoast1]

Was that in Manila or a smaller province town? I think, prices in the province are much lower and you can't get away with 2 k here in Manila.

That p2000 quoted could be anywhere in Phils. P2000 might be an initial offer in the province for a hottie. Or you might strike it rich in Manila for that price (although its generally at the bottom of the ladder). Regarding a province girl getting 2000, that would generally be a kill shot for her. She might be giving quickies to pinoys for 500, and she might have an expat or 2 on the line at 1000. The situation is different.

EDIT: and just right now as I am writing a text, another girl I had made an appointment in 30 minutes just texted me: "sorry I can't come today, my cellphone broke. Let's meet tomorrow".

Fickle as f*ck, aren't they? We generally discourage guys from chatting up the girls for weeks or months prior to arrival. They agree to meet, then when you arrive: Poof! They are gone. Its better to wait until a day or two before arrival, or even to wait until you are here and then announce your arrival.

On PinaLove, sharing your intentions cannot get you blocked? Same with Thaifriendly, I always tried to get them to Line messenger first and then talk business there. Do you make your price offer in the first message?

Sharing your monetized intentions on any dating site can not only get you blocked by a girl, but also bumped off the site. Best to get the discussion quickly to WA or other messaging system.

I remember seeing a post where it said, the base price is 1500-2000 per day or 500 p per shot, but it may be for someone deep in the province.

Would like to see that post. Usually we post what we have experienced paying. Other fellas pay more, some pay less. There is often a consensus as to what the normal range is, but you have to read the posts and do your own averaging.

[PhilJoy]

Was that in Manila or a smaller province town? I think, prices in the province are much lower and you can't get away with 2 k here in Manila.

Mate, right outside City Garden in Makati, so it is possible.

I've found if you keep in touch with your contacts on WhatsApp, and not just hit them up when you're in town, you'll have a better chance.

I'm catching up with this one again soon.

_Phil.

[Goferring]

Go, you and I should start our own advice thread. DragonSlayer had his own thread. We could call it "Westy-Go", or "Go-West Young Man", or such.

If you are serious, then I'm in if you are. 😁.

[Goferring]

Filipinas like turning loose the heat.

Girls have it drilled into them from a young age that they have to work hard to keep their man. They all have cousins and girlfriends who have Pinoy or poriner boyfriends who, often for no reason, walked out for greener pastures. Often these girls will subconsciously think it was because of something that they did (not) do. Pinas can be incredibly insecure.

There will always be a market for guys who want to point and shoot. However, this really is high risk with clock watchers, ST runners, outrageous pricing and poor performers now pretty common. The couple of dinners and polite conversation that you mentioned really can give excellent returns on the initial investment. Not to mention the free externalities: some one who has the smarts to handle travel bookings, can hold a conversation, speaks excellent English, doesn't regard a crop top and micro shorts as formal dress at dinner and doesn't draw stares and comments where ever we go.

Again, not for everyone but an option for those who are dissatisfied with the bar scene.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

WC1's post with Smart Girl Philippines' quote that they may be quiet and demure in public but will work hard in private to keep your stomach full and balls empty is very accurate. SNIP

2/ the girls who were prim and proper but did absolutely anything requested behind closed doors and went well beyond their call of duty to keep me happy.

Filipinas like turning loose the heat. Get past the shyness. Let her bring a friend on that first date, and pay for everything so she won't think you cheap. Get past the second date. Then typically a clumsy / shy first sex. Following that, you might have trouble keeping up with her. You might find that she can not only handle more times per day than you, but she might *want* more times / day. Might want to bring some bandages for your little head.

There's something about pinay, je ne sais quoi, that makes their sex a bit more vibrant.

Go, you and I should start our own advice thread. DragonSlayer had his own thread. We could call it "Westy-Go", or "Go-West Young Man", or such.

[Goferring]

You left out some details for Goferring's sniffing nose. How long are you in town? Are you a 2-week warrior? If you are here for a week on your first visit, and you want value for your high-priced trip: A lot of poon, or quality looks, or quality sex -- those are all different things, do you want all three? Then FL might be questionable, and KTV's or gogos might be your only call. Can you afford that? All newbs should pay attention to this paragraph.

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A last thought about niches. The board used to be geared towards 2-week warriors. Since covid a lot more expats post.

One category that rarely gets discussed is the XLT or good girl who is prepared to work hard to protect her investment / keep her man. WC1's post with Smart Girl Philippines' quote that they may be quiet and demure in public but will work hard in private to keep your stomach full and balls empty is very accurate. Those who are tired of bargirl rip offs or poor performance could give these girls a go. Obviously not suitable for the two day business trip but very viable for a two week millionaire rather than rolling the dice every night trying to find someone new.

I can group the best fucks I have ever had into two very distinct groups: 1/ the wild child pole dancers who were often utterly insane but great fucks while it lasted or 2/ the girls who were prim and proper but did absolutely anything requested behind closed doors and went well beyond their call of duty to keep me happy.

I'm not going to polute the Makati thread with what I'm currently paying in the provinces but if budget is a consideration this is by far the cheapest option overall and especially when $$$ vs quality is concerned.

Something to consider beyond the traditional options.

Enjoy. G.