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05-30-25 03:14 #18298Senior Member

Posts: 3944Merit is an evil word to the scumbag left
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Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Do you know Lani Guinier.
How about Dirtbag Tom Morello.
https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...p-fk-that-guy/
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05-30-25 02:37 #18297Senior Member

Posts: 3944You cover a lot Profesor but the bottom line is this
They hate the United States and they hate Americans, unless you hate us too of course.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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They are part of a very sick cult, I used to say they shouldn't be allowed to be expats with our Tax dollars, well someone smarter than me thought otherwise.
They were brilliant, just pay them to leave and never come back.
I think I'm pretty smart, why didn't I think of that.
God Bless America.
And may he protect us from our enemies, both foreign and domestic (ie Spidy ET SC and Tinyclit).
BTW so are you saying SC was part of the scumbag crew that allowed 9/11?
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05-28-25 01:50 #18296Senior Member

Posts: 7452How about a non-partisan study, not one conjured up by the 2024 House MAGA-Loons?
There are countless non-partisan studies that have come to this same conclusion over the decades, including those done over the past year.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy
https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...he-us-economy/
Repub Donald Trump would have to work much harder on all of his part time jobs if he replaced his low wage / high FICA-paying undocumented workers at all of his failed golf resorts.When analyzed from the vantage point of information derived from reputable, nonpartisan sources (the Pew Research Center, USDA, United States Department of Labor, and leading economists and researchers) then one can obtain a clearer view of this muddled discussion. The truth of the matter is that illegal immigrants are important to the U.S. economy, as well as vital to certain industries like agriculture.
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But what about the immense strain on social services and money spent on welfare for these law breakers? The Congressional Budget Office in 2007 answered this question in the following manner: "Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrantsboth legal and unauthorizedexceed the cost of the services they use. According to the New York Times, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration claims that undocumented workers have contributed close to 10% ($300 billion) of the Social Security Trust Fund.
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05-28-25 01:11 #18295Senior Member

Posts: 7452If Trump needs the money so badly
If poor baby Repub Trump needs the money so badly that he has to take a part time job as a hotel Booker and crypto sales service rep, or is that his full time job and Destroying the USA Economy his part time job, then maybe the charity he should be donating his White House salary to ought to be himself.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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05-28-25 00:01 #18294Senior Member

Posts: 4632Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.
Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.
Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.
Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.
Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.
End of link.
Why is Tooms so supportive of federal workers and their sick leave and so critical of Trump using his spare time to make money? Because most government workers vote Democrat, and Trump is now a Republican. And how on God's green earth can you claim to be a Democratic douche "rule of law" person when you support illegal immigrants? It is the same reason. They vote Democrat. And why does Loony Tooms go off so badly on Muslim Americans while bragging about how great illegal immigrants are? Because the Muslim Americans did not vote for Democrats this election cycle because of Biden policies on Israel.
It is just more of the same lies and half-truths. He wants Democrats in power because they give parasites like him more money.
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05-27-25 23:39 #18293Senior Member

Posts: 4632Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.
And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".
And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.
And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.
One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.
This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:
No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.
I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.
And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.
Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.
The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.
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05-27-25 23:32 #18292Senior Member

Posts: 6685Elvis 2008 continues to lie!
Continue to write lies about me Elvis 2008. Find yourself as defendant being sued under 28 USC 4101.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Try me!
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05-27-25 22:10 #18291Senior Member

Posts: 7452Your stable genius is an erratic numbskull
Remember this?
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion.
Feb. 23, 2022
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...asion-00010923
And here he is today, for his Top Lover doing more of the exact same thing:
Trump calls Putin 'absolutely crazy' following Russia's latest barrage on Ukraine.
May 26, 2025
https://www.npr.org/2025/05/26/nx-s1...solutely-crazy
Is Donald J. Trump really the last pol on the Planet to figure out that Putin takes the opportunity of a purported "ceasefire" as a very good time to increase his fire on the countries he invades?
Biden knew that as a better President than Trump will ever be even in his sleep. Which he only did to rest up from his job of being one of the Best Presidents in History and, unlike Trump, not from a side job of booking rooms in his failed golf resorts and taking bribes on sales of crypto through his likely scam crypto sales service.
Now, a few days ago Elvis was good enough to point out that Repub Trump brilliantly only "pretends" to be a total economic ignoramus with his 100% ignorant Trump Tariff pronouncements that he immediately caves on and then comes up with a 99.99% ignorant pronouncement in his March to The Worst Economic Results Since The Great Repub Depression.
So would you say Repub Trump is pulling that same trick with his foreign policy on war? Was he brilliantly only "prentending" to be the most ignorant pol on the Planet about Putin ever since February 2022, publicly blowing him bareback with a full CIM+Swallow on his every attack on Ukraine until today when he can totally flip-flop on that foreign policy and prove to the World he is more than totally ignorant but also an utterly erratic numbskull?
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05-27-25 20:59 #18290Senior Member

Posts: 6685Lies, more lies and Elon Musk
We have two individuals who lie in the thread. They are looking for a third for a threesome for a mini orgy of untruth.
You can turn the Social Security program off right now. I don't get any. So, both of you (Elvis 2008) and yourself need to stop lying about individuals who receive the money that hey paid into Social Security as anything other than legitimate receivers of government benefits.
There would be no problem with the Social Security program if was funded properly like a pension fund. Or the rich like Elvis 2008 and MarquisdeSade1 didn't receive preferential tax benefits because they are rich (ers).
White people receive 43% of the benefits from Medicaid in the Dis-United Staes of America. The most represented of any racial group receiving benefits.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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STOP THE SPIN and OUTRIGHT LIES!
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05-27-25 14:13 #18289Senior Member

Posts: 7452Uh
Undocumented Immigrants can not collect Social Security. They can get a Social Security number in order to PAY the FICA Tax and thereby help to fund the program for USA citizens. But then they can't collect Social Security.
Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1
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Good deal for American Citizens, right?
They also don't generally qualify for Medicaid. And neither do their children. Although, again, they might very well work and PAY into the Medicaid program.
Another good deal for American Citizens and their children, right?
President Musk should stick with chainsawing away the regulators and overseers who can bust him on his rocketship toys violations and stop commenting on stuff he knows nothing about. Which is virtually everything other than his rocketship toys.
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05-27-25 13:27 #18288Senior Member

Posts: 3944Did I read this correctly lolololol
Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Well thank God no more, Our Lord and Savior voided their collective bargaining agreement so as to allow them.
The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol.
I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety!
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05-27-25 05:48 #18287Senior Member

Posts: 3944First get SS# then get your free money check, its winning the savage criminal lottery
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05-27-25 03:20 #18286Senior Member

Posts: 3944Is this treasonous bastard active in this thread?
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-spied-beijing
Originally Posted by Spidy
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I say execute him.
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05-27-25 02:22 #18285Senior Member

Posts: 3944You're a fucking pathological liar just like ET and a pretty bad one also
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/u...democrats.html
Originally Posted by Spidy
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After*Criticism,*Harris's*$900*Million*Group*Tries*to*Lay*Out*a*Future.
Future*Forward,*the*big-money*group*supporting*Kamala*Harris's*presidential*bid*last*year,*resurfaced*after*her*loss*with*an*event*in*California.
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People*sit*around*the*back*patio*of*the*Ritz-Carlton*resort*on*a*cloudy*day.
Some*of*the*biggest*names*in*Democratic*politics*came*to*the*Ritz-Carlton*resort*in*Half*Moon*Bay,*Calif. ,*this*week*for*a*closed-door*conference*hosted*by*the*super*PAC*Future*Forward. Credit. Smith*Collection*—*Gado,*via*Getty*Images.
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Ever*since*Vice*President*Kamala*Harris*lost*the*election*in*November,*a*big-money*group*that*had*raised*over*$900*million*to*support*her*but*ultimately*failed*in*its*efforts*has*kept*a*low*profile*—*even*as*Ms. *Harris's*advisers*have*publicly*second-guessed*its*approach*to*the*campaign.
But*a*closed-door*conference*this*week*hosted*by*the*super*PAC,*Future*Forward,*at*a*luxury*seaside*hotel*in*California*made*plain*that*the*group*does*not*plan*to*fade*away.
Future*Forward*drew*some*of*the*biggest*names*in*Democratic*politics*to*the*Ritz-Carlton*resort*in*Half*Moon*Bay,*Calif. ,*south*of*San*Francisco,*to*brief*donors*on*what*it*thought*went*wrong*last*year*—*and*what*could*come*next.
Attendees*included*potential*future*presidential*candidates,*such*as*Gov. *Gavin*Newsom*of*California*and*Gov. *Andy*Beshear*of*Kentucky,*and*seven-figure*Democratic*donors,*some*of*whom*had*questions*about*why*Future*Forward*was*unable*to*help*Ms. *Harris*win.
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At*an*event*on*Thursday*with*passed*hors*the'oeuvres*like*mini*lobster*rolls*and*short-rib*tostones*and*a*dinner*featuring*heirloom*tomato*carpaccio,*beef*tenderloin*and*seared*sea*bass,*Chauncey*McLean,*the*group's*leader,*gestured*to*criticism*of*what*he*called*the*group's*"reputation"*—*a*dependence*on*polling*and*testing*and*randomized*trials.
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"Those*are*all*just*fancy*ways*of*saying*we*listen*to*voters*and*try*to*gauge*whether*any*of*the*things*we*do*actually*work,"*Mr. *McLean*said,*according*to*a*person*in*the*room. *The*group*declined*to*comment.
Standing*in*the*Ritz-Carlton's*observatory*room,*Mr. *McLean*tried*to*both*calm*the*waters*and*send*a*message*that*Future*Forward*wants*to*remain*a*part*of*the*Democratic*Party,*despite*the*criticism.
Other*speakers*at*the*event*included*Mr. *Newsom*and*Mr. *Beshear,*as*well*as*Rahm*Emanuel,*the*former*Chicago*mayor,*and*Senator*Amy*Klobuchar*of*Minnesota,*according*to*a*copy*of*the*agenda*reviewed*by*The*New*York*Times. *They*were*interviewed*by*Future*Forward*operatives,*such*as*the*pollster*David*Shor*and*the*former*Biden*adviser*Anita*Dunn,*and*by*Kara*Swisher,*a*former*New*York*Times*opinion*columnist.
The*guests*included*about*40*donors*who*funded*roughly*$250*million*of*Future*Forward's*work*in*the*2024*election*cycle,*the*group*told*guests*at*the*conference,*according*to*a*person*who*attended.
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Those*megadonors*included*Jeff*Lawson,*a*founder*of*the*tech*company*Twilio,*and*the*investor*Andrew*Hauptman,*who*each*gave*$1*million*to*the*super*PAC*last*cycle,*as*well*as*the*philanthropist*Shannon*Hunt-Scott,*who*gave*$450,000. *Also*in*attendance*were*aides*to*several*of*the*party's*most*influential*billionaires,*such*as*Dustin*Moskovitz,*a*founder*of*Facebook.
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USA *temporarily*lifts*some*sanctions*on*Syria,*fulfilling*a*Trump*pledge.
The*E. P. A. *wants*to*erase*greenhouse*gas*limits*on*power*plants,*documents*show.
Sessions*included*a*viewing*of*a*live*focus*group*of*young*men*in*what*was*2024's*hardest-fought*congressional*district,*California's*13th;*a*briefing*from*the*executive*director*of*the*Democratic*Governors*Association;*and*a*closing*session*on*Friday*featuring*three*Democratic*members*of*Congress.
"The*best*way*to*stop*Donald*Trump*at*the*federal*level*is*to*win*control*of*the*House*of*Representatives*in*2026,"*read*the*agenda. *Many*of*Future*Forward's*talks*highlighted*Democrats*who*had*won*in*conservative*states,*such*as*Gov. *Laura*Kelly*of*Kansas.
The*mere*existence*of*the*conference,*especially*for*a*group*known*for*its*discretion,*fascinated*Democratic*donors*and*their*advisers*in*recent*months. *Some*privately*said*in*advance*that*they*were*attending*Future*Forward's*event*partly*out*of*curiosity*about*how*the*group*would*defend*its*work*last*year.
Ms. *Harris's*team*has*shared*some*veiled*criticism*of*Future*Forward,*including*in*an*interview*on*the*podcast*"Pod*Save*America"*just*after*Election*Day. *Privately,*some*Democrats*have*been*far*less*friendly,*saying*that*Future*Forward*aired*ads*too*late*in*the*cycle*and*should*have*focused*more*squarely*on*turning*out*Black*and*Hispanic*voters*for*Ms. *Harris.
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Top*Future*Forward*advisers*on*Friday*defended*their*approach*to*guests*that*included*Minyon*Moore,*a*longtime*Democratic*operative*and*a*Harris*confidante. *They*outlined*that*96.3*percent*of*the*super*PAC's*spending*was*on*advertising,*as*opposed*to*unrelated,*overhead*costs,*and*that*its*nonprofit*gave*$220*million*to*73*progressive*groups,*according*to*two*people*in*the*room*when*the*information*was*presented. *Advisers*also*reviewed*which*of*the*group's*ads*worked*and*which*did*not,*based*on*data*it*collected.
Given*Ms. *Harris's*defeat,*it*has*not*been*clear*to*well-heeled*Democrats*that*Future*Forward*has*a*path*forward. *The*group*was*founded*during*the*2018*election,*and*its*leaders*did*not*initially*anticipate*that*it*would*become*a*long-term*part*of*the*Democratic*establishment,*though*President*Joseph*are. *Biden*Jr. *eventually*made*it*the*primary*outside*group*supporting*his*re-election*bid.
In*recent*months,*Future*Forward*has*held*private*conversations*with*donors*to*discuss*what*happened*in*2024*and*to*express*the*group's*desire*to*remain*active*in*politics,*according*to*two*people*with*knowledge*of*the*conversations.
The*group*has*said*that*since*its*founding*it*has*raised*$1. 4*billion,*but*it*remains*to*be*seen*whether*it*will*be*the*leading*group*for*a*2028*presidential*nominee.
Theodore*Schleifer*is*a*Times*reporter*covering*billionaires*and*their*impact*on*the*world.
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This tiny new big-money group raised almost $1 billion for Bird Brain Harris from the American hating oligarchy alone!!
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05-27-25 02:08 #18284Senior Member

Posts: 3944Why you so dum bro lololol
A) you're an extreme partisan Hack / Democrat.
Originally Posted by EihTooms
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B) I'm sure you went to those shitty California public schools, my sympathies.
The reason My Dearest Vladimir is fucking up Kyiv like I said he was going to from Day #1.
Is because he can, he is going to extract a pound of flesh, make that a few billion metric tons out of Zelensky for starting all this shit.
He isn't going to stop, until he feels he has rec'd enough recompense for his being inconvenienced by all this Biden bullshit, he isn't going to stop fucking them up because.
Ukraine is getting curb stomped and you don't like it, he and Our Lord and Savior discussed it the other day, and I'm sure Vladimir was told.
Let me know when you're finished!! Not unlike Gaza!!
Get your head out your ass.
And get a clue, maybe stop watching MSNBC 24/7.
You don't wave the white flag when you're winning a war, you press hard on the gas pedal!!
Please Kill them all Vladimir.
We Love You.
MAGA.








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