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  1. #18298

    Merit is an evil word to the scumbag left

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

    TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

    And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

    And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

    And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

    One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

    This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

    No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

    I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

    And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

    Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

    The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.
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    Do you know Lani Guinier.

    How about Dirtbag Tom Morello.

    https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...p-fk-that-guy/

  2. #18297

    You cover a lot Profesor but the bottom line is this

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

    TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

    And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

    And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

    And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

    One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

    This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

    No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

    I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

    And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

    Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

    The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.
    They hate the United States and they hate Americans, unless you hate us too of course.

    They are part of a very sick cult, I used to say they shouldn't be allowed to be expats with our Tax dollars, well someone smarter than me thought otherwise.

    They were brilliant, just pay them to leave and never come back.

    I think I'm pretty smart, why didn't I think of that.

    God Bless America.

    And may he protect us from our enemies, both foreign and domestic (ie Spidy ET SC and Tinyclit).

    BTW so are you saying SC was part of the scumbag crew that allowed 9/11?

  3. #18296

    How about a non-partisan study, not one conjured up by the 2024 House MAGA-Loons?

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.

    Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

    Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

    Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

    Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

    Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive..
    There are countless non-partisan studies that have come to this same conclusion over the decades, including those done over the past year.

    Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

    https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...he-us-economy/

    When analyzed from the vantage point of information derived from reputable, nonpartisan sources (the Pew Research Center, USDA, United States Department of Labor, and leading economists and researchers) then one can obtain a clearer view of this muddled discussion. The truth of the matter is that illegal immigrants are important to the U.S. economy, as well as vital to certain industries like agriculture.
    ..........
    But what about the immense strain on social services and money spent on welfare for these law breakers? The Congressional Budget Office in 2007 answered this question in the following manner: "Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrantsboth legal and unauthorizedexceed the cost of the services they use. According to the New York Times, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration claims that undocumented workers have contributed close to 10% ($300 billion) of the Social Security Trust Fund.
    Repub Donald Trump would have to work much harder on all of his part time jobs if he replaced his low wage / high FICA-paying undocumented workers at all of his failed golf resorts.
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  4. #18295

    If Trump needs the money so badly

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.

    Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

    Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000..
    If poor baby Repub Trump needs the money so badly that he has to take a part time job as a hotel Booker and crypto sales service rep, or is that his full time job and Destroying the USA Economy his part time job, then maybe the charity he should be donating his White House salary to ought to be himself.

  5. #18294
    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Undocumented Immigrants can not collect Social Security. They can get a Social Security number in order to PAY the FICA Tax and thereby help to fund the program for USA citizens. But then they can't collect Social Security.

    Good deal for American Citizens, right?

    They also don't generally qualify for Medicaid. And neither do their children. Although, again, they might very well work and PAY into the Medicaid program.

    Another good deal for American Citizens and their children, right?

    President Musk should stick with chainsawing away the regulators and overseers who can bust him on his rocketship toys violations and stop commenting on stuff he knows nothing about. Which is virtually everything other than his rocketship toys.
    Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.

    Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

    Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

    Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

    Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

    Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.

    End of link.

    Why is Tooms so supportive of federal workers and their sick leave and so critical of Trump using his spare time to make money? Because most government workers vote Democrat, and Trump is now a Republican. And how on God's green earth can you claim to be a Democratic douche "rule of law" person when you support illegal immigrants? It is the same reason. They vote Democrat. And why does Loony Tooms go off so badly on Muslim Americans while bragging about how great illegal immigrants are? Because the Muslim Americans did not vote for Democrats this election cycle because of Biden policies on Israel.

    It is just more of the same lies and half-truths. He wants Democrats in power because they give parasites like him more money.

  6. #18293
    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.

    Well thank God no more, Our Lord and Savior voided their collective bargaining agreement so as to allow them.

    The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol.

    I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety!
    Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

    TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

    And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

    And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

    And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

    One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

    This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

    No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

    I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

    And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

    Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

    The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.

  7. #18292

    Elvis 2008 continues to lie!

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Meanwhile, the oppressed SC, the guy who worked 10 X harder at his TSA job because it was so racist, is getting by with his 100 inch TV. My God, can you believe the horror? It is so racist of me to not want to pay for his new 120 inch set.
    Continue to write lies about me Elvis 2008. Find yourself as defendant being sued under 28 USC 4101.

    Try me!

  8. #18291

    Your stable genius is an erratic numbskull

    Quote Originally Posted by MarquisdeSade1  [View Original Post]
    A) you're an extreme partisan Hack / Democrat.

    B) I'm sure you went to those shitty California public schools, my sympathies.

    The reason My Dearest Vladimir is fucking up Kyiv like I said he was going to from Day #1.

    Is because he can, he is going to extract a pound of flesh, make that a few billion metric tons out of Zelensky for starting all this shit.

    He isn't going to stop, until he feels he has rec'd enough recompense for his being inconvenienced by all this Biden bullshit, he isn't going to stop fucking them up because.

    Ukraine is getting curb stomped and you don't like it, he and Our Lord and Savior discussed it the other day, and I'm sure Vladimir was told.

    Let me know when you're finished!! Not unlike Gaza!!

    Get your head out your ass.

    And get a clue, maybe stop watching MSNBC 24/7.

    You don't wave the white flag when you're winning a war, you press hard on the gas pedal!!

    Please Kill them all Vladimir.

    We Love You.

    MAGA.
    Remember this?

    Trump calls Putin 'genius' and 'savvy' for Ukraine invasion.
    Feb. 23, 2022


    https://www.politico.com/news/2022/0...asion-00010923

    And here he is today, for his Top Lover doing more of the exact same thing:

    Trump calls Putin 'absolutely crazy' following Russia's latest barrage on Ukraine.
    May 26, 2025


    https://www.npr.org/2025/05/26/nx-s1...solutely-crazy

    Is Donald J. Trump really the last pol on the Planet to figure out that Putin takes the opportunity of a purported "ceasefire" as a very good time to increase his fire on the countries he invades?

    Biden knew that as a better President than Trump will ever be even in his sleep. Which he only did to rest up from his job of being one of the Best Presidents in History and, unlike Trump, not from a side job of booking rooms in his failed golf resorts and taking bribes on sales of crypto through his likely scam crypto sales service.

    Now, a few days ago Elvis was good enough to point out that Repub Trump brilliantly only "pretends" to be a total economic ignoramus with his 100% ignorant Trump Tariff pronouncements that he immediately caves on and then comes up with a 99.99% ignorant pronouncement in his March to The Worst Economic Results Since The Great Repub Depression.

    So would you say Repub Trump is pulling that same trick with his foreign policy on war? Was he brilliantly only "prentending" to be the most ignorant pol on the Planet about Putin ever since February 2022, publicly blowing him bareback with a full CIM+Swallow on his every attack on Ukraine until today when he can totally flip-flop on that foreign policy and prove to the World he is more than totally ignorant but also an utterly erratic numbskull?
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  9. #18290

    Lies, more lies and Elon Musk

    We have two individuals who lie in the thread. They are looking for a third for a threesome for a mini orgy of untruth.

    You can turn the Social Security program off right now. I don't get any. So, both of you (Elvis 2008) and yourself need to stop lying about individuals who receive the money that hey paid into Social Security as anything other than legitimate receivers of government benefits.

    There would be no problem with the Social Security program if was funded properly like a pension fund. Or the rich like Elvis 2008 and MarquisdeSade1 didn't receive preferential tax benefits because they are rich (ers).

    White people receive 43% of the benefits from Medicaid in the Dis-United Staes of America. The most represented of any racial group receiving benefits.

    STOP THE SPIN and OUTRIGHT LIES!

  10. #18289

    Uh

    Undocumented Immigrants can not collect Social Security. They can get a Social Security number in order to PAY the FICA Tax and thereby help to fund the program for USA citizens. But then they can't collect Social Security.

    Good deal for American Citizens, right?

    They also don't generally qualify for Medicaid. And neither do their children. Although, again, they might very well work and PAY into the Medicaid program.

    Another good deal for American Citizens and their children, right?

    President Musk should stick with chainsawing away the regulators and overseers who can bust him on his rocketship toys violations and stop commenting on stuff he knows nothing about. Which is virtually everything other than his rocketship toys.

  11. #18288

    Did I read this correctly lolololol

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Ah, yes, Mr. CCCP AKA Mr. Facts is still ranting about the Democrats not being the party of the rich. Let's try this again. https://www.thenation.com/article/so...party-obama/We have known for some time that the dark money of Charles Koch is answered by the conspicuous money of Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai, George Soros, Bill Gates, and a swelling chorus of others, none of whom "identify Republican. ".

    Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. Add to this what we knew already, namely that the 10 richest congressional districts in the country all have Democratic representatives in Congress. The above numbers incidentally come from the Internal Revenue Service, via Bloomberg, and are likely to be more reliable than if they came from Project Veritas via theblaze.com.

    Yes, the proposed Trump tax cuts help the rich Democratic districts more than anyone else. As for Republicans, according to Loony Tooms, we are the party of the Arab terrorists. My God, you cannot make this shit up..
    Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.

    Well thank God no more, Our Lord and Savior voided their collective bargaining agreement so as to allow them.

    The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol.

    I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety!

  12. #18287

    First get SS# then get your free money check, its winning the savage criminal lottery

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Uhh! Say What Now?

    How does this section of text, relate to the FACTS I provided, in relation to the CLEAR and UNDENIABLE evidence that Repubs have huge majority, some 75% of the corrupt robber baron billionaires, funding them 2024?

    A FACT you victoriously and nonsensically DENY, while making up your own gish gallop, to obfuscate, from the facts, just like the clown show, Repub House, that has foolishly pushed through, your Fuhrer's BBB, that ultimately funds TAX CUTS for the rich elites and robber baron billionaire class, on the backs of hardworking Americans.

    Therefore, since I have no idea, what you're RANTING about, w/r to billionaires not paying their fair share of taxes, I'll let one of our esteemed colleagues, take over and explain it to you AGAIN:



    Thanks AGAIN SubCdmr, for educating, schooling and setting straight, Elvis 2008, ...much appreciated!
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...mbers-in-2024/

    https://www.breitbart.com/clips/2025...s-on-medicaid/

  13. #18286

    Is this treasonous bastard active in this thread?

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Where exactly are you again, on hiring that translator, I talked about, so you can understand and comprehend FACTS, so that you can become less ambiguous?

    Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election
    https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/...cial-election/

    See the link above, as to just how well, it worked! Small donations, up from 2020, where your dumbass lost, rioted, formed an insurrection and you knucklehead MAGA losers went to jail! (...kkkk!)

    And Dems were NEVER wrong about, what a shit show, your Fuhrer's 2.0 admin term, was going to be!
    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/...-spied-beijing

    I say execute him.

  14. #18285

    You're a fucking pathological liar just like ET and a pretty bad one also

    Quote Originally Posted by Spidy  [View Original Post]
    Where exactly are you again, on hiring that translator, I talked about, so you can understand and comprehend FACTS, so that you can become less ambiguous?

    Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election
    https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/...cial-election/

    See the link above, as to just how well, it worked! Small donations, up from 2020, where your dumbass lost, rioted, formed an insurrection and you knucklehead MAGA losers went to jail! (...kkkk!)

    And Dems were NEVER wrong about, what a shit show, your Fuhrer's 2.0 admin term, was going to be!
    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/u...democrats.html

    After*Criticism,*Harris's*$900*Million*Group*Tries*to*Lay*Out*a*Future.

    Future*Forward,*the*big-money*group*supporting*Kamala*Harris's*presidential*bid*last*year,*resurfaced*after*her*loss*with*an*event*in*California.

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    Ever*since*Vice*President*Kamala*Harris*lost*the*election*in*November,*a*big-money*group*that*had*raised*over*$900*million*to*support*her*but*ultimately*failed*in*its*efforts*has*kept*a*low*profile*—*even*as*Ms. *Harris's*advisers*have*publicly*second-guessed*its*approach*to*the*campaign.

    But*a*closed-door*conference*this*week*hosted*by*the*super*PAC,*Future*Forward,*at*a*luxury*seaside*hotel*in*California*made*plain*that*the*group*does*not*plan*to*fade*away.

    Future*Forward*drew*some*of*the*biggest*names*in*Democratic*politics*to*the*Ritz-Carlton*resort*in*Half*Moon*Bay,*Calif. ,*south*of*San*Francisco,*to*brief*donors*on*what*it*thought*went*wrong*last*year*—*and*what*could*come*next.

    Attendees*included*potential*future*presidential*candidates,*such*as*Gov. *Gavin*Newsom*of*California*and*Gov. *Andy*Beshear*of*Kentucky,*and*seven-figure*Democratic*donors,*some*of*whom*had*questions*about*why*Future*Forward*was*unable*to*help*Ms. *Harris*win.

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    At*an*event*on*Thursday*with*passed*hors*the'oeuvres*like*mini*lobster*rolls*and*short-rib*tostones*and*a*dinner*featuring*heirloom*tomato*carpaccio,*beef*tenderloin*and*seared*sea*bass,*Chauncey*McLean,*the*group's*leader,*gestured*to*criticism*of*what*he*called*the*group's*"reputation"*—*a*dependence*on*polling*and*testing*and*randomized*trials.

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    "Those*are*all*just*fancy*ways*of*saying*we*listen*to*voters*and*try*to*gauge*whether*any*of*the*things*we*do*actually*work,"*Mr. *McLean*said,*according*to*a*person*in*the*room. *The*group*declined*to*comment.

    Standing*in*the*Ritz-Carlton's*observatory*room,*Mr. *McLean*tried*to*both*calm*the*waters*and*send*a*message*that*Future*Forward*wants*to*remain*a*part*of*the*Democratic*Party,*despite*the*criticism.

    Other*speakers*at*the*event*included*Mr. *Newsom*and*Mr. *Beshear,*as*well*as*Rahm*Emanuel,*the*former*Chicago*mayor,*and*Senator*Amy*Klobuchar*of*Minnesota,*according*to*a*copy*of*the*agenda*reviewed*by*The*New*York*Times. *They*were*interviewed*by*Future*Forward*operatives,*such*as*the*pollster*David*Shor*and*the*former*Biden*adviser*Anita*Dunn,*and*by*Kara*Swisher,*a*former*New*York*Times*opinion*columnist.

    The*guests*included*about*40*donors*who*funded*roughly*$250*million*of*Future*Forward's*work*in*the*2024*election*cycle,*the*group*told*guests*at*the*conference,*according*to*a*person*who*attended.

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    Those*megadonors*included*Jeff*Lawson,*a*founder*of*the*tech*company*Twilio,*and*the*investor*Andrew*Hauptman,*who*each*gave*$1*million*to*the*super*PAC*last*cycle,*as*well*as*the*philanthropist*Shannon*Hunt-Scott,*who*gave*$450,000. *Also*in*attendance*were*aides*to*several*of*the*party's*most*influential*billionaires,*such*as*Dustin*Moskovitz,*a*founder*of*Facebook.

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    USA *temporarily*lifts*some*sanctions*on*Syria,*fulfilling*a*Trump*pledge.

    The*E. P. A. *wants*to*erase*greenhouse*gas*limits*on*power*plants,*documents*show.

    Sessions*included*a*viewing*of*a*live*focus*group*of*young*men*in*what*was*2024's*hardest-fought*congressional*district,*California's*13th;*a*briefing*from*the*executive*director*of*the*Democratic*Governors*Association;*and*a*closing*session*on*Friday*featuring*three*Democratic*members*of*Congress.

    "The*best*way*to*stop*Donald*Trump*at*the*federal*level*is*to*win*control*of*the*House*of*Representatives*in*2026,"*read*the*agenda. *Many*of*Future*Forward's*talks*highlighted*Democrats*who*had*won*in*conservative*states,*such*as*Gov. *Laura*Kelly*of*Kansas.

    The*mere*existence*of*the*conference,*especially*for*a*group*known*for*its*discretion,*fascinated*Democratic*donors*and*their*advisers*in*recent*months. *Some*privately*said*in*advance*that*they*were*attending*Future*Forward's*event*partly*out*of*curiosity*about*how*the*group*would*defend*its*work*last*year.

    Ms. *Harris's*team*has*shared*some*veiled*criticism*of*Future*Forward,*including*in*an*interview*on*the*podcast*"Pod*Save*America"*just*after*Election*Day. *Privately,*some*Democrats*have*been*far*less*friendly,*saying*that*Future*Forward*aired*ads*too*late*in*the*cycle*and*should*have*focused*more*squarely*on*turning*out*Black*and*Hispanic*voters*for*Ms. *Harris.

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    Top*Future*Forward*advisers*on*Friday*defended*their*approach*to*guests*that*included*Minyon*Moore,*a*longtime*Democratic*operative*and*a*Harris*confidante. *They*outlined*that*96.3*percent*of*the*super*PAC's*spending*was*on*advertising,*as*opposed*to*unrelated,*overhead*costs,*and*that*its*nonprofit*gave*$220*million*to*73*progressive*groups,*according*to*two*people*in*the*room*when*the*information*was*presented. *Advisers*also*reviewed*which*of*the*group's*ads*worked*and*which*did*not,*based*on*data*it*collected.

    Given*Ms. *Harris's*defeat,*it*has*not*been*clear*to*well-heeled*Democrats*that*Future*Forward*has*a*path*forward. *The*group*was*founded*during*the*2018*election,*and*its*leaders*did*not*initially*anticipate*that*it*would*become*a*long-term*part*of*the*Democratic*establishment,*though*President*Joseph*are. *Biden*Jr. *eventually*made*it*the*primary*outside*group*supporting*his*re-election*bid.

    In*recent*months,*Future*Forward*has*held*private*conversations*with*donors*to*discuss*what*happened*in*2024*and*to*express*the*group's*desire*to*remain*active*in*politics,*according*to*two*people*with*knowledge*of*the*conversations.

    The*group*has*said*that*since*its*founding*it*has*raised*$1. 4*billion,*but*it*remains*to*be*seen*whether*it*will*be*the*leading*group*for*a*2028*presidential*nominee.

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    This tiny new big-money group raised almost $1 billion for Bird Brain Harris from the American hating oligarchy alone!!

  15. #18284

    Why you so dum bro lololol

    Quote Originally Posted by EihTooms  [View Original Post]
    Rumor has it that Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and Bill Clinton will soon issue a joint statement that:

    "This is just terrible. Terrible. It shouldn't have happened. And it wouldn't have happened on My / Our watch! Really. This terrible thing never would have happened if I / We had been President! I / We can tell you that"!

    Apparently, this is only happening because Putin senses weakness in Donald Trump.

    Russia hits Ukraine with the largest drone and missile attack of the war so far

    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/05/25/russ...ndroidappshare

    I guess Trump has been too busy golfing at his failed golf resorts and forcing American tax-payers to pay for it to make that simple phone call and say the magic Trump words to "stop that war within 24 hours, I can tell you that!
    A) you're an extreme partisan Hack / Democrat.

    B) I'm sure you went to those shitty California public schools, my sympathies.

    The reason My Dearest Vladimir is fucking up Kyiv like I said he was going to from Day #1.

    Is because he can, he is going to extract a pound of flesh, make that a few billion metric tons out of Zelensky for starting all this shit.

    He isn't going to stop, until he feels he has rec'd enough recompense for his being inconvenienced by all this Biden bullshit, he isn't going to stop fucking them up because.

    Ukraine is getting curb stomped and you don't like it, he and Our Lord and Savior discussed it the other day, and I'm sure Vladimir was told.

    Let me know when you're finished!! Not unlike Gaza!!

    Get your head out your ass.

    And get a clue, maybe stop watching MSNBC 24/7.

    You don't wave the white flag when you're winning a war, you press hard on the gas pedal!!

    Please Kill them all Vladimir.

    We Love You.

    MAGA.

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