American Politics

[SubCmdr]

Elon Musk, Mark Rubio, Pete Hegseth, Dan Caine, Kash Patel, Kristi Noem, Pam Bondi.

Dirtbag SC worked for TSA lololol.
Well thank God no more, Our Lord and Savior voided their collective bargaining agreement so as to allow them. The ability to purge the agency from DEI scum like SC lolololololol. I fly all the time and I want to be safe and don't want trash like that having any hand in my safety!

No I did not work for TSA. Elvis 2008 has retracted his lie. Stop repeating it!

[MarquisdeSade1]

There are countless non-partisan studies that have come to this same conclusion over the decades, including those done over the past year.

Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...he-us-economy/

Repub Donald Trump would have to work much harder on all of his part time jobs if he replaced his low wage / high FICA-paying undocumented workers at all of his failed golf resorts.

Illegal aliens may benefit the DNC puppeteers on Wall Street but they really really screw the poor, they steal their jobs, they drive down their wages, they steal their welfare benefits.

They drive up the cost of their housing clothing food etc.

They even make it harder for them to get their families in to see a Doctor or an appt for Dialysis etc etc etc.

They drive up crime (murder, rape, child molestations) in their neighborhoods and flood them with deadly narcotics etc etc.

I can go on for hours.

I know you've seen illegal Afrikans on Suk in BKK selling drugs and driving up crime there also.

Just like illegals do everywhere.

[Spidy]

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/09/u...democrats.html

After*Criticism,*Harris's*$900*Million*Group*Tries*to*Lay*Out*a*Future. ...

This tiny new big-money group raised almost $1 billion for Bird Brain Harris from the American hating oligarchy alone!!

(...kkkk!)

Good heavens, yet another clueless MAGA knucklehead, posting reams of non-related articles, that have NOTHING to do with the argument/discussion at hand!

May I suggest you go back and revisit the STARTING PREMISE of the "argument" and then figure out your NEXT STEPS, w/r to a proper post, related to this particular, who contributed more, Dems vs. Repub billionaire debate!

PS: BTW, I just love the new addition of "STARS" to your blatant reams of COPY-N-PASTE posts, that the NY Times have implemented to detract from your overcompensating REAMS of plagiarism, when all you need is a simple LINK! (...kkkk!)

[Goatscrot]

Ahh yes, the Elvis 2008, tried and true method, of running and hiding, from his previous nonsensical claims, (ie. "If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.",), to see what more gish gallop, will stick to the wall, because again, he's clearly lost, yet another argument when faced with the truth that, Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election, https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/...cial-election/. I think you once offered Dems advice "to STOP digging a hole", perhaps you should take your own advice! (...kkkk!).

You were wrong! Just admit it! There's no shame! You are often wrong about most things! (...kkkk!).

Uhhh! What does some freakin' 2023 article have to do with YOU BEING WRONG, about Dem billionaires and ME BEING RIGHT, about the FACT Republican robber baron billionaires do indeed, spend and contribute more to buy puppet pocket and muppet MAGA politicians in an election, given the most recent FACTS and FIGURES for the Nov 2024 Election?

The 2024 election cycle saw a record GOP lean, with 70%-75% of billionaire funds favoring Republicans and conservatives.

Billionaires Buying Elections: Congressional Races, Sept 26th, 2025
https://americansfortaxfairness.org/...-races-report/
https://americansfortaxfairness.org/...me-to-collect/, Apr 20,2025.

Packed Pacs: how billionaires in the US are bankrolling Republicans at the state level , March, 2025.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-republicans

STOP with the gish gallop and bring the FACTS, that the Repub robber baron billionaire class contributed LESS then Dems!

Just the FACTS ma'am'!!!

How do you clean things up? Well, it's easy but it'll never happen.

Make all private campaign contributions illegal. Disband PACs and super PACs, have a short election cycle, term limits, and pass a law preventing anyone who serves in or is appointed to any government position panning them from advising or working for any company that advises or does business with the government for 5 years before and 10 years after serving. I would add to this end executive orders as legislation is supposed to start in the house. Let's also do away with presidential pardons.

[Sirioja]

TACO trade Trump fucked by justice. Also a liar about amount he claimed USA spent for Ukraine, when for real, not more than what Europe gave and not asking to be paid back, when lies from Trump who wants to rob poor Ukrainians, when USA mostly spent to pay USA companies for weapons stock they had. Land of lies and shame.

[Spidy]

Some recent US figures on the distribution of income by party: 65 percent of taxpayer households that earn more than $500,000 per year are now in Democratic districts; 74 percent of the households in Republican districts earn less than $100,00 per year. Add to this what we knew already, namely that the 10 richest congressional districts in the country all have Democratic representatives in Congress. The above numbers incidentally come from the Internal Revenue Service, via Bloomberg, and are likely to be more reliable than if they came from Project Veritas via theblaze.com.

Ahh yes, the Elvis 2008, tried and true method, of running and hiding, from his previous nonsensical claims, (ie. "If you think Kamala got $1 billion in donations from small donors, I have a bridge to sell you.",), to see what more gish gallop, will stick to the wall, because again, he's clearly lost, yet another argument when faced with the truth that, Small-dollar Donors Power Historic Q3 Surge: $1.5 Billion Raised for 2024s Crucial Election, https://blog.actblue.com/2024/10/15/...cial-election/. I think you once offered Dems advice "to STOP digging a hole", perhaps you should take your own advice! (...kkkk!).

You were wrong! Just admit it! There's no shame! You are often wrong about most things! (...kkkk!).

Ah, yes, Mr. CCCP AKA Mr. Facts is still ranting about the Democrats not being the party of the rich. Let's try this again. https://www.thenation.com/article/so...party-obama/We have known for some time that the dark money of Charles Koch is answered by the conspicuous money of Jeff Bezos, Mark Zuckerberg, Jack Dorsey, Tim Cook, Sundar Pichai, George Soros, Bill Gates, and a swelling chorus of others, none of whom "identify Republican. ".

Uhhh! What does some freakin' 2023 article have to do with YOU BEING WRONG, about Dem billionaires and ME BEING RIGHT, about the FACT Republican robber baron billionaires do indeed, spend and contribute more to buy puppet pocket and muppet MAGA politicians in an election, given the most recent FACTS and FIGURES for the Nov 2024 Election?

The 2024 election cycle saw a record GOP lean, with 70%-75% of billionaire funds favoring Republicans and conservatives.

Billionaires Buying Elections: Congressional Races, Sept 26th, 2025
https://americansfortaxfairness.org/...-races-report/
https://americansfortaxfairness.org/...me-to-collect/, Apr 20,2025.

Packed Pacs: how billionaires in the US are bankrolling Republicans at the state level , March, 2025.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...ng-republicans

STOP with the gish gallop and bring the FACTS, that the Repub robber baron billionaire class contributed LESS then Dems!

Just the FACTS ma'am'!!!

[Sirioja]

US Americans also boycott Tesla now, from lost jobs. ZFE places will be cancelled in France, when I m sad for new Challenger / Charger, real pity.

[SubCmdr]

Civil Rights in the Dis-United States of America

This is one of the reasons the Dis-United States of America is so divided. Republicans have managed to hijack the concept of civil rights (which in reality is nothing more than just living up to the Constitution of the United States of America). The have turned in a power weapon of hate to divide my fellow citizens and serve as a distraction of the gross inequities in income and wealth distribution supported by the Republican Party.

The attack on DEI is driven by the desire from White Men being able to say nigger in the workplace again without being fired!

[MarquisdeSade1]

Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.

End of link.

Why is Tooms so supportive of federal workers and their sick leave and so critical of Trump using his spare time to make money? Because most government workers vote Democrat, and Trump is now a Republican. And how on God's green earth can you claim to be a Democratic douche "rule of law" person when you support illegal immigrants? It is the same reason. They vote Democrat. And why does Loony Tooms go off so badly on Muslim Americans while bragging about how great illegal immigrants are? Because the Muslim Americans did not vote for Democrats this election cycle because of Biden policies on Israel.

It is just more of the same lies and half-truths. He wants Democrats in power because they give parasites like him more money.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...unded-welfare/

[MarquisdeSade1]

Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.

https://news.wttw.com/2025/05/28/cta...g-report-finds

[MarquisdeSade1]

Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.

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Do you know Lani Guinier.

How about Dirtbag Tom Morello.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainm...p-fk-that-guy/

[MarquisdeSade1]

Nah, when the parasite SC was hired, the TSA did not exist. I have a family member who writes federal grants and is always going on about how imperfect government work is and how lazy employees are. At the year end period of the grant, the biggest problem is how do they spend up all the money they never needed. And these Democratic douches go on and on about how there is no fat in the government's programs.

TSA agents are just what most people see as government workers. Because they are in the public eye, TSA agents actually work harder, if you can believe that, than most other federal employees.

And SC would have been an affirmative action hire not DEI, not that that is so much better. His claim that he worked 10 X harder than white people killed me. How do you work 10 X harder than someone at the TSA? If you add up all the days off a federal worker gets, it can be up to 10 weeks or 50 days per year and that does not include other perks like family leave. Then you have on top of that the family leave program and as a buddy of mine told me, "you never can get anyone in government fired".

And you know how all those former senators and presidents have so many people at their funerals? That is because so many government employees get paid or get their expenses reimbursed to be there. It is like a party for them and then they have health care outside of the government structures like the VA.

And SC probably got the deal where he gets a pension of 85% of his three best years of salary in government which can be and probably is more than the maximum payout for social security.

One of the issues with Covid is so many government employees did not want to come back to the office and so few did. I met a gal in DC who was literally working one hour a day at her government job and with Covid, she was able to work remotely. That is why so many government agencies scared the shit out of people with Covid. They did not want to return to the office.

This is from a Reddit forum where people were talking about sick leave:

No one gives a hoot where I am. It is actively encouraged to take all the time you want, whenever you want. I know people who put in the day of because they decide to go do X activities on a whim. No one ever questions sick leave and I have never heard anyone needing to produce a doctor's note.

I took almost a month of leave and never gave a doctors note. I told the office I broke my hand and they were like "take all the time you need" so I did. Never asked for specific days or hours ahead of putting them in.

And in the mean time, you got Democratic douche Eli Tooms going on about how Trump needs to work 24/7 while he is banging hookers on our dime in Thailand.

Do not tell me how you paid into the system when you have been taking handouts from government the whole time. Hell, we have Spidy here telling me how weird I am for not taking government handouts. It was amazing that these douches tripped over themselves trying to find anything that I got from government.

The parasites have no respect for taxpayers. They have no respect for their country. They live abroad and all they care about is they get more from us.

They hate the United States and they hate Americans, unless you hate us too of course.

They are part of a very sick cult, I used to say they shouldn't be allowed to be expats with our Tax dollars, well someone smarter than me thought otherwise.

They were brilliant, just pay them to leave and never come back.

I think I'm pretty smart, why didn't I think of that.

God Bless America.

And may he protect us from our enemies, both foreign and domestic (ie Spidy ET SC and Tinyclit).

BTW so are you saying SC was part of the scumbag crew that allowed 9/11?

[EihTooms]

Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive..

There are countless non-partisan studies that have come to this same conclusion over the decades, including those done over the past year.

Illegal immigrants benefit the U.S. economy

https://thehill.com/blogs/congress-b...he-us-economy/

When analyzed from the vantage point of information derived from reputable, nonpartisan sources (the Pew Research Center, USDA, United States Department of Labor, and leading economists and researchers) then one can obtain a clearer view of this muddled discussion. The truth of the matter is that illegal immigrants are important to the U.S. economy, as well as vital to certain industries like agriculture.
..........
But what about the immense strain on social services and money spent on welfare for these law breakers? The Congressional Budget Office in 2007 answered this question in the following manner: "Over the past two decades, most efforts to estimate the fiscal impact of immigration in the United States have concluded that, in aggregate and over the long term, tax revenues of all types generated by immigrantsboth legal and unauthorizedexceed the cost of the services they use. According to the New York Times, the chief actuary of the Social Security Administration claims that undocumented workers have contributed close to 10% ($300 billion) of the Social Security Trust Fund.

Repub Donald Trump would have to work much harder on all of his part time jobs if he replaced his low wage / high FICA-paying undocumented workers at all of his failed golf resorts.

[EihTooms]

Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000..

If poor baby Repub Trump needs the money so badly that he has to take a part time job as a hotel Booker and crypto sales service rep, or is that his full time job and Destroying the USA Economy his part time job, then maybe the charity he should be donating his White House salary to ought to be himself.

[Elvis 2008]

Undocumented Immigrants can not collect Social Security. They can get a Social Security number in order to PAY the FICA Tax and thereby help to fund the program for USA citizens. But then they can't collect Social Security.

Good deal for American Citizens, right?

They also don't generally qualify for Medicaid. And neither do their children. Although, again, they might very well work and PAY into the Medicaid program.

Another good deal for American Citizens and their children, right?

President Musk should stick with chainsawing away the regulators and overseers who can bust him on his rocketship toys violations and stop commenting on stuff he knows nothing about. Which is virtually everything other than his rocketship toys.

Ah yes, Loony Tooms the liar is at it again. Mr. Rule of law is telling how great it is that illegal immigrants break the law. Chrome-extension: efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj /https://budget.house.gov/imo/media/d..._taxpayers.pdf.

Illegal immigrants have a negative fiscal impact -- taxes paid minus benefits received -- primarily because a large share have modest levels of education, resulting in relatively low average incomes and tax payments, along with significant use of means-tested programs and other government services.

Using the National Academies' estimate of immigrants' net fiscal impact by education level, we estimate that the lifetime fiscal drain (taxes paid minus costs) for each illegal immigrant is about $68,000.

Based on their use rate of major welfare programs, we estimate that illegal immigrants receive $42 billion in benefits, or about 4 percent of the total cost of the cash.

Use of emergency medical services is another area in which illegal immigrants create significant fiscal costs. Prior research indicates that there are 5. 8 million uninsured illegal immigrants in the country in 2019, accounting for a little over one-fifth of the total population without health insurance. The costs of providing care to them likely totals some $7 billion annually.

Illegal immigrants do pay some taxes. We estimate that illegal immigrants in 2019 paid roughly $5. 9 billion in federal income tax, $16.2 billion in Social Security tax and $3. 8 billion in Medicaid taxes. However, as the net fiscal drain of $68,000 per person cited above indicates, these taxes are not nearly enough to cover the cost of the services they receive.

End of link.

Why is Tooms so supportive of federal workers and their sick leave and so critical of Trump using his spare time to make money? Because most government workers vote Democrat, and Trump is now a Republican. And how on God's green earth can you claim to be a Democratic douche "rule of law" person when you support illegal immigrants? It is the same reason. They vote Democrat. And why does Loony Tooms go off so badly on Muslim Americans while bragging about how great illegal immigrants are? Because the Muslim Americans did not vote for Democrats this election cycle because of Biden policies on Israel.

It is just more of the same lies and half-truths. He wants Democrats in power because they give parasites like him more money.